[Q] Why not Android on WP7 - General Topics

I am wondering how come android can be developed for any other HTC but not for Surround? I know some may not like my question, but I am a layman, stuck with this phone and don't know how to and where from i can find the android on my phone.

NotOverYet said:
I am wondering how come android can be developed for any other HTC but not for Surround? I know some may not like my question, but I am a layman, stuck with this phone and don't know how to and where from i can find the android on my phone.
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I honestly hate to be a prick but this is one case where google really really
helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832545
is it for the hd7? yes it is...
is it applicable to the surround?
yes it is
spl has been broken for a bit now so its a matter of time
why people like android is beyond me imho

No demand for it.

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What is the possibility of running Android on this hardware?
I'm assuming the biggest problem would be the drivers correct?
I'd like to bump this up. I was wondering if anyone thinks it's even possible for Android to run on this phone at all.
Probably not, I do believe it uses a different processor than other Android phones, but I can hope.
echoshizzle said:
I'd like to bump this up. I was wondering if anyone thinks it's even possible for Android to run on this phone at all.
Probably not, I do believe it uses a different processor than other Android phones, but I can hope.
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Seriously? No responses on this huh?
If no one knows how to get it on this specific device, does anyone know how to get it on another device?
My guess is you won't see it, as Android seems to be for touchscreens only (just from what I've seen) and it seems like most people who've gone over to Android, come back to windows mobile anyway, so there isn't much desire to port perfectly good WinMo phones over to Android.

Shipping HTC EVO 4G ROM released into the wild

http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Supersonic/
dont know if this is useful to us or not....
why is that an .exe file?
Yea, I also don't believe this is much use to us with the Desire ROM being out. Sense 2.1, is always Sense 2.1, unless Sprint made some modifications.
mgorman said:
why is that an .exe file?
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HTC phones on sprint(that I know of) use EXE files to install or update a rom its an app that puts the phone in bootloader mode to flash the device. looks fishy but its legit.
Both 2.1 update for the samsung moment and HTC Hero were EXE files not .img files
I could careless about sprint. I hate them
Doesn't this ROM include 720p video recording?
If they can port this over to HD2 I might have to say good bye to my N1.
oklahomatulsa said:
If they can port this over to HD2 I might have to say good bye to my N1.
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why would you want this on an hd2? the evo is a better phone, just go get it instead.
The format looks similar the windows mobile updates.
If I knew the drivers would work with the HD2 I would flash it.
... yeah I've got an HD2 paper weight ... After owning a Nexus ... what was I thinking.
timothydonohue said:
why would you want this on an hd2? the evo is a better phone, just go get it instead.
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Maybe he prefers a gsm phone?
timothydonohue said:
why would you want this on an hd2? the evo is a better phone, just go get it instead.
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But he'd be on sprint then.
JCopernicus said:
Maybe he prefers a gsm phone?
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You took the words right out of my mouth. Thanks for using your head.
Now if anyone extracts 720p video recording and wifi access point tethering app (although the latter is probably sprint only) That'd be sweet.
Why does that say Supersonic? Isn't that a different phone?
oklahomatulsa said:
If they can port this over to HD2 I might have to say good bye to my N1.
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saying the HD2 had android so you could compare apples to apples... The N1 is still better, the screen maybe smaller, but its brighter and cleaner looking with the amoled screen... everything else is the same
zippa71385 said:
The N1 is still better, the screen maybe smaller, but its brighter and cleaner looking with the amoled screen... everything else is the same
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I prefer a bigger screen, than a crisper image, so, to me, the HD2 is better
myself11 said:
I prefer a bigger screen, than a crisper image, so, to me, the HD2 is better
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I have both and I will say Android on the HD2 would rival the NExus One nicely.
my tmobile rep said the name "supersonic" was dropped at one of his conference calls. I would wait for an Evo-like device to drop on a GSM sometime soon (T-mobile).
Come on guys...stop talking stupid crap. I've been hunting the forums trying to figure out if an android cook is coming for hd2, and all i keep seeing are you so-called 'experts' saying things like:
"why would you want android on hd2, buy such-and such"
"wait for the next GSM phone from Tmo"
Well, WHAT THE HELL MAN? Where's the pioneering spirit of the developers I know and love?? Where's the desire to rise to the challenge of porting to a WinMo phone??
There are many T Mobile customers out there who are being offered a good upgrade discount to get an HD2. Why would we all just abandon that and run off to get an unlocked whatever for $500??? Shut up on that please...
Second, no one's waiting for the next anything. What's the point of waiting? No matter what phone you get, it'll be obsolete in 12 months anyway...
SO SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE GET CRACKIN ON AN ANDROID ROM FOR HD2!!!!!!!! Many HD2 owners have already said we'll pay for it...someone will make some money...
And someone in here PLEASE put up a LINK to anything about HD2 android stuff...
geez, XDA is going to the dogs ...seriously though, it was never this hard to get help when the G1 came out (and spare me the obvious "G1 was made for Android" drivel)...
mfrey0118 said:
Come on guys...stop talking stupid crap. I've been hunting the forums trying to figure out if an android cook is coming for hd2, and all i keep seeing are you so-called 'experts' saying things like:
"why would you want android on hd2, buy such-and such"
"wait for the next GSM phone from Tmo"
Well, WHAT THE HELL MAN? Where's the pioneering spirit of the developers I know and love?? Where's the desire to rise to the challenge of porting to a WinMo phone??
There are many T Mobile customers out there who are being offered a good upgrade discount to get an HD2. Why would we all just abandon that and run off to get an unlocked whatever for $500??? Shut up on that please...
Second, no one's waiting for the next anything. What's the point of waiting? No matter what phone you get, it'll be obsolete in 12 months anyway...
SO SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE GET CRACKIN ON AN ANDROID ROM FOR HD2!!!!!!!! Many HD2 owners have already said we'll pay for it...someone will make some money...
And someone in here PLEASE put up a LINK to anything about HD2 android stuff...
geez, XDA is going to the dogs ...seriously though, it was never this hard to get help when the G1 came out (and spare me the obvious "G1 was made for Android" drivel)...
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Sounds like you should get started, then.

[Q] OK i just got a HD7....

I was wondering...is there custom roms for this phone? can you install a full functional version of android on it? and if you can do all this can you use a program like odin to flash back in case of mess ups?
Why buy a HD7 if you want to flash android onto it? seems totally pointless...
Why buy an hd2 and run android on it? Because some prefer to run android on their touchscreen device.... thats the thing xda provides, options, customization, and and extended free will with our devices, I could run wp7, windows 6.5, android with or without htc sense, froyo, gingerbread, you name it on my device because of xda. So why? Because it is possible and some prefer to
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XsceneXhippieX said:
Why buy an hd2 and run android on it? Because some prefer to run android on their touchscreen device.... thats the thing xda provides, options, customization, and and extended free will with our devices, I could run wp7, windows 6.5, android with or without htc sense, froyo, gingerbread, you name it on my device because of xda. So why? Because it is possible and some prefer to
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Well said.
The HD7, because of being so similar to an HD2 hardware wise, would make an excellent Android phone because of the cap. buttons.
XsceneXhippieX said:
Why buy an hd2 and run android on it? Because some prefer to run android on their touchscreen device.... thats the thing xda provides, options, customization, and and extended free will with our devices, I could run wp7, windows 6.5, android with or without htc sense, froyo, gingerbread, you name it on my device because of xda. So why? Because it is possible and some prefer to
Sent from my gingerbread running HyperDroid2
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we are talking about an HD7 here
So its pointless to buy a device with no custom rom support, ports and such and magically expect to be able to flash anything on it
he should have
1. done his research to see if it can be actually done first
2. bought an hd2 if he wanted to run an unofficial OS
mike21pr said:
we are talking about an HD7 here
So its pointless to buy a device with no custom rom support, ports and such and magically expect to be able to flash anything on it
he should have
1. done his research to see if it can be actually done first
2. bought an hd2 if he wanted to run an unofficial OS
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if I liked men I would've hugged you for that response
seriously research the flipping device
you get an HTC HD7 and you want android? You get a wp7 and want a custom rom? No custom roms and thankfully no android
“Freedom is not merely the opportunity to do as one pleases; neither is it merely the opportunity to choose between set alternatives. Freedom is, first of all, the chance to formulate the available choices, to argue over them -- and then, the opportunity to choose.”
All the OP did was ask a question. Why the crucifixion?
If the thread went like this: "Bought an HD7... WP7 is smellier than monkey butt... where can I get an Android Phone Rom for it" then throw those stones.
But if you did want a 4" HTC phone the Desire HD is a better Android phone than an HD7 will ever be.
I recall your sig used to be HD7 - future Android phone, not true Marty?
nicksti said:
All the OP did was ask a question. Why the crucifixion?
If the thread went like this: "Bought an HD7... WP7 is smellier than monkey butt... where can I get an Android Phone Rom for it" then throw those stones.
But if you did want a 4" HTC phone the Desire HD is a better Android phone than an HD7 will ever be.
I recall your sig used to be HD7 - future Android phone, not true Marty?
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My sig used to be a lot of things. No longer being in my sig doesn't mean forgotten As for Android on it, I no longer use Android on my HD2 either. I doubt I would bother with Android on the HD7. But I might. Who knows.
I'm finding new-found love for WinMo (HTC Sense version) on my HD2. Will be getting the Android version of an iPhone, the Nexus S, soon enough to sate my love for Android and Android apps.
TorelliB said:
I was wondering...is there custom roms for this phone? can you install a full functional version of android on it? and if you can do all this can you use a program like odin to flash back in case of mess ups?
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No and no.
Oooooh can I upgrade my Nexus S to WP7 please?
Jim Coleman said:
Oooooh can I upgrade my Nexus S to WP7 please?
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Yes you can! First take a hammer....
Okay I think the OP's question has been answered.
No need for the sarcasm and condescending answers provided by some....
Closed.

Android on the Arrive/7 Pro

Searched, and haven't found a thread on this.
I'm due for an upgrade in July on my Sprint line, and I was almost certain I was going to go with the EVO 3D (when it comes out), but then I saw the HTC Arrive and kinda liked it. The thing is, though, that I really like Android as well. I know dual-booting Android was possible on the Touch Pro 2, so I was wondering if it's possible to do the same thing with the Arrive/7 Pro, or if having Windows Phone 7 prevents it from being able to do this. Thanks!
It cannot be done as of now.
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The HTC 7 Pro has the same SoC as HD7 and HD2, and both of them already have Android.
Why Android still can't be ported for 7 Pro?
I'm pretty sure that hardspl must be available before we can flash custom roms on our pros. More imporantly some sort of application like haret for WM6 but for WP7 would probably also need to be developed first. Hopefully some fine day it will all be possible like on the HD2.
i was looking at how they dual boot with hd2, and it looks like they boot from sdcard, and flash wp7. we shouldn't need to flash wp7, but booting android is sdcard boot. so i see no reason why we can't boot from sdcard, unless we need a special boot loader, and the boot loader they need doesn't have the access to wp7 to get the boot loader working properly and that goes beyond me please correct me if I'm wrong.
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
eric12341 said:
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
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Just got my Arrive from Evo. LOVE IT. My Fiance loves it aswell surprisingly and she is getting one soon :]. Atleast untill Evo 3D..
eric12341 said:
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
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thanks for your opinion....
exilkubaner said:
thanks for your opinion....
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not an opinion,plenty of articles to back up my claims. sorry your feelings got hurt jaja.
eric12341 said:
not an opinion,plenty of articles to back up my claims. sorry your feelings got hurt jaja.
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and also many articles that say the opposite. Dont just spew out stuff and say it as fact. Other people have different preferences.
iOS is just as fragmented as Android. Only thing is that Apple controls the fragmentation so dumbass developers dont try making completely universal apps when they dont know how the hell to do that.
And fragmentation isnt an issue for consumers. Its perfectly fine. So i dont understand your bias against it unless you are a developer.
Acsteffy87 said:
and also many articles that say the opposite. Dont just spew out stuff and say it as fact. Other people have different preferences.
iOS is just as fragmented as Android. Only thing is that Apple controls the fragmentation so dumbass developers dont try making completely universal apps when they dont know how the hell to do that.
And fragmentation isnt an issue for consumers. Its perfectly fine. So i dont understand your bias against it unless you are a developer.
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its not fragmentation thats an issue for consumers its malware, there have been numerous reports about this already, im not an iFan either
I really don't care whether you or anyone says android is worse or better than wp7 but it would be nice to switch if one wants to. so when there is a thread discussing the possibility to port android on the 7 pro, there is no need for no-sayers, since they can occupy their brains with other stuff.
i would love to see this, but especially since there is only 1 sd-card, its either flashing one or the other i think...
Not possible on wp7 YET
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Hello all,
I am new to mobile phones and I would like to post some questions, which are general in fact, but closely related to the topic and the Arrive device.
I would like to have another OS on it and I have found a way to change the SD cart it is running with, so I should be able to change or modify it with no trouble.
I imagine that I could find another HTC device with identical hardware and deploy it's ROM to this one in a manner similar to HD2's approach. I am so new that I already can feel how dumn is that ... but still.
I need to clarify some basics in order to know what to look for. First of all what does the firmware does and how it is related to the OS. Can I imagine it is something like BIOS, which controls the main hardware like processor, ram, telephony, etc? If so what stops me of formatting the SD and booting another system from it on the same hardware.
Another thing is what the ROM contains and how it is related to the OS. I am with the impression that it has everything in it -- OS distributive, firmware backup and bootloader maybe. If that is correct am I free to cook a ROM that contains the same firmware (as I imagine it like a BIOS alternative), the bootloader of another system and its distributive? Of course the ROM that is already on the device may and most probably will try to stop me, so I will need to somehow format it.
I do not express myself too good due to lack of expertise, but I know computers and I believe you will know what to tell me to straighten my thoughts.
Thank you in advance for any information you provide.
Sincere,
drel
At this stage, pesonally, I think wp7 is the best os to me. At it is not laggy as android does and looks more beautiful than iOS...
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Up as i really need to know the answers.
Please ppl, if this is not the place to ask then guide me to where i will get some heads-up.
Thanks once again.
Drel
drelisimo said:
Up as i really need to know the answers.
Please ppl, if this is not the place to ask then guide me to where i will get some heads-up.
Thanks once again.
Drel
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just buy an Android phone!
eric12341 said:
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
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I think what you meant to say was "Why would anyone have a different opinion than my awesome opinion?" As much as I love WP7 I'd love to be able to use Android with this chassis. Choice is always good. There is no Android phone with this keyboard.
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Bump. Having no Bluetooth SPP has just pissed me off for a year. About to get an Galaxy Nexus S come May, so I don't mind tinkering with my Arrive for now.
hello?
Any news about dual booting android on arrive / HD7 Pro? I read the thread and some users just talk crap. " Why this? Why that?" Why not, may I ask. I Love WP7, i really think that beats the crap out of everything else. But why can't we dream of having android too? As far as I know, Android has at the moment much more apps ( free and payed ones ) available than WP7. My brother-in-law has veetle ( just an example ) on his Xperia S, and he can watch live football/soccer which I can't cuz there is no veetle available. And who can name veetle, can name many others too. The point is: Combining the best of two worlds would makes fully profit from our beloved phones, which we payed ( at least I did ). I really hope that some news about this stuff.
Best Regards
Miiky

[Q] how to put android on htc hd7

i have a htc hd7 i dont really dig the whole windows thing is there a possible way to put android on it???? if so would somebody plz help me
mrglw25 said:
i have a htc hd7 i dont really dig the whole windows thing is there a possible way to put android on it???? if so would somebody plz help me
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Without htc proprietary drivers for the specific device i highly doubt it's possible, and htc has no interest in realeasing something like that i guess...
Android on HD7 (Unconfirmed real or fake but probably is real): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f3hTkoDlkU&feature=player_embedded
Unfortunately, the video is hosted by the notorious xda.cn (don't ask me about it..).. Maybe there is a beta on DFT
mrglw25 said:
i have a htc hd7 i dont really dig the whole windows thing is there a possible way to put android on it???? if so would somebody plz help me
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I used to think Android would be better on my HD7, when I had it. But then NoDo came along and dealt with all of the issues I had with WP7 and now I would never put Android on my WP7 device. Of course, I no longer have my HD7. I moved to AT&T and got a Focus.
I don't recommend Android on your HD7. Wait until Mango gets here and enjoy the world's best OS.
Glad to say no, why would you buy a wp7 device and turn it into an android device when there's android devices with much more powerful hardware in a similar price range... Not to mention as shotty as that devices battery life is with androids poor power management you'd get so little battery life on it that it'd be nearly painful. Wp7 is awesome but this was a poor choice on your part.
I tell ya...if you want an excellent experience on an HD7'ish device, find an HD2 and flash Mango to it. I did with mine and have been floored how well it looks. My HD7 never looked this good. Mango must be handling the display differently than NoDo or how the HD7 handled it because it is amazing. It has all of the color richness of SAMOLED but in a crisper look...no pentile ugliness.
e334 said:
Android on HD7 (Unconfirmed real or fake but probably is real): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f3hTkoDlkU&feature=player_embedded
Unfortunately, the video is hosted by the notorious xda.cn (don't ask me about it..).. Maybe there is a beta on DFT
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thats chinese copy of HD7.

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