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HI guys, just wondering if anyone knows with that firmware update does. I've searched and it seems like not a whole lot of people know but are updating anyway. I'm sort of reluctant on installing it because I plan to root and use a custom ROM when the dev teams catch up.
After using MIUI on the N1, I'm not too impressed with the performance with this phone, but I know the potential is much higher with the gen 2 snapdragon, more ram, and internal storage. I can't wait to see what people cook up for this phone.
Anyhow, if anyone finds out that this update will be a headache later for rooting and custom ROM purposes please chime in.
Thanks!
skyungjae said:
Anyhow, if anyone finds out that this update will be a headache later for rooting and custom ROM purposes please chime in.
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I remember on the G1 we had to flash with an older factory rom to root. Wouldn't the same thing be possible with the MT4G even if the update doesn't allow root?
Noyabronok said:
I remember on the G1 we had to flash with an older factory rom to root. Wouldn't the same thing be possible with the MT4G even if the update doesn't allow root?
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I remember doing that with my G1 too, and I'd rather avoid that extra step.
This update was mainly to improve Qik reliability and choppyness. This from the head of HTC Northeast, who randomly walked into the Tmo store while I was there.
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Noyabronok said:
I remember on the G1 we had to flash with an older factory rom to root. Wouldn't the same thing be possible with the MT4G even if the update doesn't allow root?
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No - newer HTC devices check both the signature and version. So, no downgrades will be possible unless an exploit is found that allows us to bypass these checks.
Also there were kernel changes AFAIK. This is pretty evident in the performance of the device... the update contains the full production firmware, they launched with development release onboard
Also the update brought tmo the ability to control tethering...
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skyungjae said:
HI guys, just wondering if anyone knows with that firmware update does. I've searched and it seems like not a whole lot of people know but are updating anyway. I'm sort of reluctant on installing it because I plan to root and use a custom ROM when the dev teams catch up.
After using MIUI on the N1, I'm not too impressed with the performance with this phone, but I know the potential is much higher with the gen 2 snapdragon, more ram, and internal storage. I can't wait to see what people cook up for this phone.
Anyhow, if anyone finds out that this update will be a headache later for rooting and custom ROM purposes please chime in.
Thanks!
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I had the same thoughts. I remember thinking that it would probably be easier to root later on without that update, but the popup wouldn't go away. Oh well...
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Also there were kernel changes AFAIK. This is pretty evident in the performance of the device... the update contains the full production firmware, they launched with development release onboard
Also the update brought tmo the ability to control tethering...
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Yeah I heard they're going to charge for tethering now. F that!
15 dollars... only if you use native tethering on stock Rom... they shouldn't be able to stop or charge 3rd party tethers or fully rooted phones
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ESKIMOn00b said:
15 dollars... only if you use native tethering on stock Rom... they shouldn't be able to stop or charge 3rd party tethers or fully rooted phones
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So PDANet should still work?
AFAIK
Works ok on evo
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HamNCheese said:
No - newer HTC devices check both the signature and version. So, no downgrades will be possible unless an exploit is found that allows us to bypass these checks.
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Like the exploit here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832642
ESKIMOn00b said:
15 dollars... only if you use native tethering on stock Rom... they shouldn't be able to stop or charge 3rd party tethers or fully rooted phones
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How will they be able to control tethering on the native tethering phones, and will the temp rooted devices still be able to tether if they have the Recent ROM update?
Is it worth updating? Since my phone is rooted and I have good upload and download speeds. Do we really need this update?
People been saying not to update if ur unrooted as it might end up in a brick
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Why would that happen?
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I did flash just the radio. It works good. I can't remember where but I found a post with it as a PD98IMG.zip. seems good.
milleirish said:
Is it worth updating? Since my phone is rooted and I have good upload and download speeds. Do we really need this update?
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As far as I know this update is to enable the high speed upload, something you most likely got by installing a custom rom. You shouldn't need to take the update, and you really shouldn't even be presented with the option unless you are running a stock rom.
In short, no, this update should not apply to you unless you are running stock.
milleirish said:
Is it worth updating? Since my phone is rooted and I have good upload and download speeds. Do we really need this update?
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All that the update does is simplify email settings for auto-configuration and edit the build.prop to enable HSUPA. Since you're rooted, you're most likely already pulling the best possible speeds if your ROM has HSUPA enabled or if you've modified your build.prop accordingly.
Thanks for the information.
Hi guys... I put the Bubby's Stock ROM on my Inspire 4G right After I bought my phone a few month ago and then I ve lost track of everything... now what I would like to understand is what updates are currently available if I go back to stock???
I've heard about sideloading enabled by ATT and HUSPA enabled by HTC.. is this true?
So my question is if i go back to RUU stock will I get all this stuff and if yes can I download SuperUser and all that cool root stuff and just remove the bloat myself but keeping the updates from ATT???
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Hi guys... I put the Bubby's Stock ROM on my Inspire 4G right After I bought my phone a few month ago and then I ve lost track of everything... now what I would like to understand is what updates are currently available if I go back to stock???
I've heard about sideloading enabled by ATT and HUSPA enabled by HTC.. is this true?
So my question is if i go back to RUU stock will I get all this stuff and if yes can I download SuperUser and all that cool root stuff and just remove the bloat myself but keeping the updates from ATT???
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Or you can keep your rooted phone that already has sideloading enabled, flash the stock rooted rom that has the other radio-related updates included, available in the dev section, and save yourself the unnecessary trouble.... All those updates are available here without having to get them via ATT/htc.
Look for the ace Cingular rom by Attn1 in the dev section.
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Hi guys... I put the Bubby's Stock ROM on my Inspire 4G right After I bought my phone a few month ago and then I ve lost track of everything... now what I would like to understand is what updates are currently available if I go back to stock???
I've heard about sideloading enabled by ATT and HUSPA enabled by HTC.. is this true?
So my question is if i go back to RUU stock will I get all this stuff and if yes can I download SuperUser and all that cool root stuff and just remove the bloat myself but keeping the updates from ATT???
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There is no need to do that. Just flash the latest from here and you will remain rooted. It's the latest firmware and radio from AT&T. Make sure you choose the one that has sideloading enabled.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058042
fernandezhjr said:
There is no need to do that. Just flash the latest from here and you will remain rooted. It's the latest firmware and radio from AT&T. Make sure you choose the one that has sideloading enabled.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058042
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Thank you so much guys.
One last question maybe dumb... If i flash this ROM over my stock what will I loose?
Roland_D said:
Thank you so much guys.
One last question maybe dumb... If i flash this ROM over my stock what will I loose?
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It is going to wipe everything.
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Roland_D said:
Thank you so much guys.
One last question maybe dumb... If i flash this ROM over my stock what will I loose?
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This rom does a full wipe. You will lose everything that is on the phone. Sd card contents are safe. Contacts are most likely backed up to the HTC Sense server, but I would export them to the sd card anyways. Unless you have them in Google, then you should be good. Apps will need to be reinstalled.
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im running the latest beans rom and im unlocked. today im being prompted to take an ota, seems like it's being pushed as i had a countdown clock. i disabled the update until 5am but why am i be prompted for this on a non stock rom and how do i totally disable this?
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im running the latest beans rom and im unlocked. today im being prompted to take an ota, seems like it's being pushed as i had a countdown clock. i disabled the update until 5am but why am i be prompted for this on a non stock rom and how do i totally disable this?
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Freeze or uninstall SDM and reboot. That's what I did, saw some other post here saying the same thing.
Really? Custom romantic and recovery and you got an ota? I'm running beans 11 and nothing was pushed to my phone
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I'm running rooted stock and it's forcing me as well. I thought it was disabled on all the root roms even stock ones? Not sure how to stop it other than keep defering it.
OTA
I just accepted the OTA, restored to factory defaults, one step rooted it, got rom manager from the play store, booted into clockwork and then reapplied my rom. No biggie.
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I just accepted the OTA, restored to factory defaults, one step rooted it, got rom manager from the play store, booted into clockwork and then reapplied my rom. No biggie.
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Just because it worked ok on yours doesn't mean it will on everyone's. Good way to brick your device...
Is this the new security fix? I heard there was a major browser vulnerability.
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guthrien said:
Is this the new security fix? I heard there was a major browser vulnerability.
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Probably not, they don't like to fix actual problems. They prefer to make minor tweaks and such to their bloat instead. You didn't want your device to actually work as advertised did you?
what's the baseband version after ota?
can someone upload the latest ota?
honking said:
what's the baseband version after ota?
can someone upload the latest ota?
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What's up crew?
After my update the baseband version is I535VRLG7.
I used Mobile Odin pro to PRE-ROOT the OTA before flashing it.... Successfully I should add.
I don't have the OTA Handy for you though, but if you do a little searching around this forum I'm sure someone has it here for downloading.
The OTA did not update my modem though, I had to flash the G7 baseband version separately. Found it on RootzWiki.
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Found it: OTA update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31577098&postcount=35
G7 Modem update:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/34053-of...zon-sgs3-sch-i535-odin-or-recovery-flashable/
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backcourse said:
Probably not, they don't like to fix actual problems. They prefer to make minor tweaks and such to their bloat instead. You didn't want your device to actually work as advertised did you?
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guthrien said:
Is this the new security fix? I heard there was a major browser vulnerability.
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You guys can .... SAFELY... check your device to see if you're vulnerable to the hack on this site.
http://www.androiddoes.net/news/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-ussd-hack-test/
Read up on the page.. it says something about if Your Dialer screen coming up and your IMEI is being displayed on it then you have the Vulnerability.. if nothing happens.. or if your dialer comes up with nothing being displayed then you're probably safe.
honking said:
what's the baseband version after ota?
can someone upload the latest ota?
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What does the new OTA update?
backcourse said:
Probably not, they don't like to fix actual problems. They prefer to make minor tweaks and such to their bloat instead. You didn't want your device to actually work as advertised did you?
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According to Samsung, the new update does in fact fix the phone wipe hack recently discovered
http://phandroid.com/2012/09/26/samsung-says-remote-wipe-hack-already-addressed-in-recent-galaxy-s3-update/
sololhj said:
According to Samsung, the new update does in fact fix the phone wipe hack recently discovered
http://phandroid.com/2012/09/26/samsung-says-remote-wipe-hack-already-addressed-in-recent-galaxy-s3-update/
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The phone wipe hack was fixed months ago on the S3. I took the OTA then unlocked (casual) and unlocked boot loader (EZ Unlock). No problems no issues. Slammed Beans 12 non-kexec back on it and I really don't see any difference.... World didn't end Phone police didn't knock my door down.... Nothing....
sololhj said:
According to Samsung, the new update does in fact fix the phone wipe hack recently discovered
http://phandroid.com/2012/09/26/samsung-says-remote-wipe-hack-already-addressed-in-recent-galaxy-s3-update/
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It was sarcasm, I'm beyond jaded with all these companies.
loveubuntu said:
Really? Custom romantic and recovery and you got an ota? I'm running beans 11 and nothing was pushed to my phone
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I'm on Beans 12, or was possibly on 11 at the time, when it tried to DL.
Hi, I really need some help cause i am new in this (i owned htc desire g7 bravo),
I have bought htc one x at&t mobile. Hopefully by the next week it would be here. I was thinking to root it so I can delete all at&t crap apps. After some search I found out that at&t models always get the updates with a big delay time. So I want to find a stock rom (clean from branded carrier apps). I forgot to mention I live in Greece.
Most important for me is:
1)Greek language and keyboard
2)upgrades “on air”
3)stable and fast (stock sounds perfect)
4)of course choosing north American type means I wand better battery life so it’s going without saying that battery life is important
Any suggestions? I look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237 but no luck. Saying at&t on stock roms means there are at&t apps right?? Thanks a lot in advance!
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Hi, I really need some help cause i am new in this (i owned htc desire g7 bravo),
I have bought htc one x at&t mobile. Hopefully by the next week it would be here. I was thinking to root it so I can delete all at&t crap apps. After some search I found out that at&t models always get the updates with a big delay time. So I want to find a stock rom (clean from branded carrier apps). I forgot to mention I live in Greece.
Most important for me is:
1)Greek language and keyboard
2)upgrades “on air”
3)stable and fast (stock sounds perfect)
4)of course choosing north American type means I wand better battery life so it’s going without saying that battery life is important
Any suggestions? I look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237 but no luck. Saying at&t on stock roms means there are at&t apps right?? Thanks a lot in advance!
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A rooted stock rom is probably your best bet. Custom roms usually remove the OTA function for obvious reasons. Once rooted, the bloatware is easy to remove.
I think you have to load the Greek keyboard separately but I don't know. I think there is one rom with all the languages turned on but it's not stock.
iElvis said:
A rooted stock rom is probably your best bet. Custom roms usually remove the OTA function for obvious reasons. Once rooted, the bloatware is easy to remove.
I think you have to load the Greek keyboard separately but I don't know. I think there is one rom with all the languages turned on but it's not stock.
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So if i get it right i should look "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)"?? (not the "CLOSED" it is different)!
Anything on "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)" says telstra at&t and rogers does not suit me right?
Any other has ota updates and don't mess with bootloader or anything else??They are just rooted nad stock right?
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So if i get it right i should look "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)"?? (not the "CLOSED" it is different)!
Anything on "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)" says telstra at&t and rogers does not suit me right?
Any other has ota updates and don't mess with bootloader or anything else??They are just rooted nad stock right?
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The stock rooted roms should work on any One XL--they are usually debranded. But they are not all exactly the same--I would review the OP to be sure.
Only downside of stock rooted... You take the att ota, you break root access!!
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InflatedTitan said:
Only downside of stock rooted... You take the att ota, you break root access!!
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That's not good! Any way to avoid that? I just rooted 2 days ago!
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ToxicWaste said:
That's not good! Any way to avoid that?
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Yes. Don't take the OTA.
Be patient and wait a few days for the devs to update their roms.
It's simply the downside of being rooted and rommed.
iElvis said:
Yes. Don't take the OTA.
Be patient and wait a few days for the devs to update their roms.
It's simply the downside of being rooted and rommed.
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Yes.
On any Android device if you are rooted, don't update by OTA.
Its really that simple. How many times does this need to be said?
At a minimum, you will lose root. At the worst, you will not be able to root again (depending on what was changed in the OTA) or get stuck in a bootloop (or otherwise not be able to boot).
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Yes. Don't take the OTA.
Be patient and wait a few days for the devs to update their roms.
It's simply the downside of being rooted and rommed.
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I was simply asking since I'm STOCK rooted, I haven't loaded a different Rom at all as I'd like to explore the phone stock rooted first. I should've mentioned I was stock rooted.
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I was simply asking since I'm STOCK rooted, I haven't loaded a different Rom at all as I'd like to explore the phone stock rooted first. I should've mentioned I was stock rooted.
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Definitely understandable bro. I recommend everyone to enjoy that honeymoon period of a new phone first, then customize the hell out of it. Nothing wrong with your doing, but like others have said don't take an update OTA if your stock. Just pop back in when you ready to really see what this phone is capable of
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I was simply asking since I'm STOCK rooted, I haven't loaded a different Rom at all as I'd like to explore the phone stock rooted first. I should've mentioned I was stock rooted.
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Even if you are on the stock ROM and rooted, you should not ever ever ever install an OTA, for the reasons I've stated in post 8 above.
If you want to install a new firmware version, they almost always get posted in Development in pre-rooted, but otherwise stock form, very soon after the OTA starts rolling out (sometimes even before the OTA, in case of a leak). Those are safe to install.
Thanks for the the explanations, guys.
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I've taken OTAs on my stock rooted Nexus 7 without any problems. But Nexus devices are a special case--I would never recommend trying it on anything else.
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I've taken OTAs on my stock rooted Nexus 7 without any problems. But Nexus devices are a special case--I would never recommend trying it on anything else.
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Sure, there are exceptions. Apps like OTA Rootkeeper sometimes work too (but don't think it ever has on the One X) to keep root after an OTA.
I was giving the "short story" rule for n00bs to go by. The "long story" is not to accept an OTA unless you have researched in advance that it will work (such as from other users here); or you intend to be the guinea pig and live the with the consequences, whatever they may be.
Too many folks here jumped on the 2.20 OTA when it first rolled out, then came on here crying "Ohhh sh1t I lost root, and its not rootable".
"Don't ever OTA on a rooted device" is a good rule to live by, unless you reearch on here and learn otherwise. On the huge majority of devices, the OTA will not even install on a rooted device, anyway. And rooted versions of the latest firmwares always get posted here. So there is really no reason to gamble and take the OTA.
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Even if you are on the stock ROM and rooted, you should not ever ever ever install an OTA, for the reasons I've stated in post 8 above.
If you want to install a new firmware version, they almost always get posted in Development in pre-rooted, but otherwise stock form, very soon after the OTA starts rolling out (sometimes even before the OTA, in case of a leak). Those are safe to install.
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I don't quite understand, I mean the 2.20 firmware is rootable now, is this still unrootable even there's a way to root it?
And also I'm expecting the stock jelly bean rom which is said to be rolling out this month, and I don't care losing root for couple of weeks, do I have to do anything before I install the OTA? Or should I just install the RUU instead?
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I don't quite understand, I mean the 2.20 firmware is rootable now, is this still unrootable even there's a way to root it?
And also I'm expecting the stock jelly bean rom which is said to be rolling out this month, and I don't care losing root for couple of weeks, do I have to do anything before I install the OTA? Or should I just install the RUU instead?
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What happened was that people who took the OTA lost root, and it was months before someone found an exploit. That may happen again with JB if you take it.
It might take the devs a few days to a week to update their roms. Just be patient.
If you absolutely can't wait, you should be stock before taking an OTA.
marsyeti said:
And also I'm expecting the stock jelly bean rom which is said to be rolling out this month, and I don't care losing root for couple of weeks, do I have to do anything before I install the OTA? Or should I just install the RUU instead?
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Neither. As I already said, it will show up in a pre-rooted, TWRP flashable, but otherwise stock ROM in the Development subforum. It usually takes about a day before a dev gets ahold of the OTA file, and posts a pre-rooted version of it. Just flash that. And the way the OTAs roll out, you'll probably see the pre-rooted version on XDA before you even get the OTA notification.
You should just erase from your brain the concept of accepting the OTA.
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Neither. As I already said, it will show up in a pre-rooted, TWRP flashable, but otherwise stock ROM in the Development subforum. It usually takes about a day before a dev gets ahold of the OTA file, and posts a pre-rooted version of it. Just flash that. And the way the OTAs roll out, you'll probably see the pre-rooted version on XDA before you even get the OTA notification.
You should just erase from your brain the concept of accepting the OTA.
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But I don't think there's a pre rooted ROM for HOXL here, or I can't find one, anyway if it comes out that'll be great I'll definitely flash that
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But I don't think there's a pre rooted ROM for HOXL here, or I can't find one, anyway if it comes out that'll be great I'll definitely flash that
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There's nothing for JB because it hasn't been released yet. There are rooted versions of many of the other firmware versions in the development section; just look in the compilation thread at the top, which has them all listed.
So,i was lucky i started it before i get the phone on hands! I really thought that at&t takes a lot of time to give ota but it is not so long time!(max a month i think) I think JB hasn't pop up not even for htc(no-carrier branded)phones,always talking about s4 version or 4g as it is called. All stock rooted roms i check seemed good but most of times it was still branded. So to sum up i think i will stay with the stock rom till jb pops up,then i will root the phone deleting all at&t apps...!(only way i know to delete rom's apps is with at least root acces right is there any other?)
I think it is needed to be said againe that even if you have stock rom and ota pops up you dont't do the update but you get the update from xda cause stock root rom+ota can cause problems!
Silly question (i think) unrooting and then ota is as dengarous as stock root rom and ota????(it sounds ok and you avoid re-installing your apps)
All i need (FOR NOW OF COURSE) is a clear rom and get the original "hTC_bootup_one" and "hTC_downanimation" zip files to the right place to avoid at&t meeting every time i go to menu and every time i power my up phone!