[Q] I really want a Transformer but... - Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a few questions...
#1. Droid-Life.com doesn't really cover this device much but they hinted that the production shortages may be due to Asus already having a better device in the works for a release soon. Obviously Manufacturers are always looking to the next device, but if they did slow production due to this next device then maybe release is immenant...Anyone else hear anything? Is there a tablet blog similar to Droid-Life?
#2. How does the performance compare to the Xoom? Xoom is more expensive, but if I am not mistaken then specs are very similar.

GatorsUF said:
#1. Droid-Life.com doesn't really cover this device much but they hinted that the production shortages may be due to Asus already having a better device in the works for a release soon.
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Not sure where you read that but this is what I found by doing a preliminary search on Droid-Life. This is actually GOOD news because it sounds like Asus is taking proactive steps to reduce some of the QC complaints.
Various sources are saying that production has slowed, this is untrue. Production has been increasing steadily since the first shipments left the factory, and we will continue to see increasing quantities delivered to UK retailers… We have implemented a number of additional testing procedures for the Eee Pad Transformer to ensure an unrivalled user-experience. This has resulted in delays to a number of shipments"
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I also saw this, which makes sense.
Suppliers for tablet manufacturers are stating that Apple is buying up a large share of tablet components for their iPad 2.
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I guess maybe it wasn't Droid-Life...
Found this
however if that Quadcore is going to be significantly more expensive I may just stick with the Transformer...

GatorsUF said:
I have a few questions...
#1. Droid-Life.com doesn't really cover this device much but they hinted that the production shortages may be due to Asus already having a better device in the works for a release soon.
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What like next month that will be around christmas!
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#2. How does the performance compare to the Xoom?
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Motorola never sold any xoom's, and i don't think it's available anymore

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I guess maybe it wasn't Droid-Life...
Found this
however if that Quadcore is going to be significantly more expensive I may just stick with the Transformer...
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Ah yes. Personally, I don't expect to see Tegra 3 devices on the market until Q4 2011 at earliest. You also have to keep in mind that Tegra 2 is a 2010 product so realistically you are waiting until this time next year to see a similar maturity (and similar price point) of that product. Look at previous history - the Tegra 2 came out in 2010 and the ViewSonic gTab was IIRC first to market and came out in November 2010.

Cool, I think i want the tranformer.
I see some sites (amazon) selling it for $500+ but I assume that is because of the shortages and once they are instock everywhere the price will be 399 for 16gb.
I can't buy one now, for preorder, but plan on getting one soon.

Unless Droid-Life has access to Asus executives, their guess is just as bad as anyone's as to why there's a shortage. And that's all anyone is doing right now, guessing.
It's not the most sensational of reasoning, but logically: Unexpected High Demand + Crippling of Japanese Supply Line = Shortage.

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Just when I start liking the G-Tablet, my Archos 101 is scheduled to arrive Saturday!

Well, I knew this day would come, as I originally bought the G-Tablet as a hold-me-over until Archos got themselves together on the 101. And now it's here. I'll probably keep them both until my return date comes up on the G-Tablet. But, I can't see returning the Archos device.
Decisions, Decisions!
lol.. wow. Me to, I ordered the second it was up, and did 2 day. So mine should be coming saturday also. Maybe?
did you order Yesterday on Archos.com when the 101 went up for sale? and do 2 day shipping. My tracking number I have already, but it's not in UPS system yet
Did you guys consider you might prefer the g tablet? Remember archos 101 will probably never see gingerbread, and the tegra2 will have honeycomb support. The ui is probably better with the archos...for now. Just have to weigh the pros and cons. However there are a few features the 101 has that are nice, like hdmi and the kickstand.
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Please post a comparison after you have both. I'm sure many people are trying to make the same decisions as you. In particular can you post about the viewing angle and how laggy the tablet is?
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lol.. wow. Me to, I ordered the second it was up, and did 2 day. So mine should be coming saturday also. Maybe?
did you order Yesterday on Archos.com when the 101 went up for sale? and do 2 day shipping. My tracking number I have already, but it's not in UPS system yet
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Yeah! LOL! I Got it yesterday with 2-day shipping . . . So, let me rephrase: I HOPE it gets here Saturday, waiting on the UPS update too.
I'll report back after playing with both. But right now I'm on a usb keyboard/case & a bluetooth mouse and loving this thing!
Crimton, you say that cuz of Archos bad update procedure in the past right. They've mentioned they need to and will improve that. Just like the Archos 101 was released with 2.1 in UK, and getting 2.2 in the next 2 weeks. End of November. They also said they will do future updates on these newer, better tablets. but we will see. Just like Samsung, they have a terrible track record.
I'm not buying the 101 for Gingerbread. I'm buying it for a cheap, low cost tablet to enjoy for the next few months. and in Feb, or March I'll get a 2.3 or 3.0 HTC or Moto tablet that will be feature complete and more of a tablet experience. Since 2.2 really isn't fully there yet. And what do you mean the tegra will have gingerbread support. because LG, and Moto are releasing Tegra 2 phones in Q1. Yea your right. but by then i'll be getting something better I'm sure.
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Did you guys consider you might prefer the g tablet? Remember archos 101 will probably never see gingerbread, and the tegra2 will have gingerbread support. The ui is probably better with the archos...for now. Just have to weigh the pros and cons. However there are a few features the 101 has that are nice, like hdmi and the kickstand.
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You may be correct. But, I'm not so concerned with Gingerbread right now, just the 2.2 upgrade later this month. There's no telling when the HDMI/hybrid cable will make it stateside from China for the Viewsonic. And, if they haven't fixed all the crap we've had to wade through on this forum to get this thing remotely close to passable by Black Friday sales, Viewsonic will be toast. LOL!
Can you imagine the everyday consumer turning this thing on to see what we saw with the TNT & no Flash Returns with be en masse!!!
Yup, black friday will be a disaster with no market, or flash like the box says. but yea.. Anyways I have a few things i don't like about the G-tablet. and I'm not really banking on Viewsonic fixing software much.
There's some great dev's here though, doing some good things. I'm sure it will be smooth as butter very soon. The media aspects of Archos sold me, the HDMI out, it's coded for some serious media handling and playback. I'll be using it to my TV often also. That and the kickstand, and the entire top isn't glass so it wont break as easy if dropped. No fingerprints on the entire top like the G. and I wont accidentally hit the soft keys all day long.
Anyways. my UPS is showing up now
Anyone know how I can pull the TnT keyboard n use on the Archos 101?
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Yup, black friday will be a disaster with no market, or flash like the box says. but yea.. Anyways I have a few things i don't like about the G-tablet. and I'm not really banking on Viewsonic fixing software much.
There's some great dev's here though, doing some good things. I'm sure it will be smooth as butter very soon. The media aspects of Archos sold me, the HDMI out, it's coded for some serious media stuff. I'll be using it to my TV often also. That and the kickstand, and the entire top isn't glass so it wont break as easy if dropped. No fingerprints on the entire top like the G. and I wont accidentally hit the soft keys all day long.
Anyways. my UPS is showing up now
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Agreed al round!!
What's your delivery date???
I'd also like to hear a comparison between the two, if you have the time (I had pre-ordered the 101 until the Gtab showed up in my sites). I'm hearing mixed reviews on the LCD and I'm curious if it has the same viewing angle issues.
And if you could do a dump of /system, that would be awesome. I'd love to be able to port their media player over to the GTab.
MY delivery date isn't up yet, but UPS is showing Signature Confirmation Required. I work tomorrow and monday. damnit. I better have someone around to get it.
Yes beet, i will do whatever you need.. I saw a few video's of the 101 and 70 in action, and those video's alone the viewing angles seemed better than the G. My own video shows how bad the angles can be. That is why that video made me think otherwise.. Oh and there's a very good file manager that i think the 101 and 70 has. but I'm not sure. I also read rageinthecage gives temp root on the Archos. So we can temp root, do a titanium backup or what not if needed. but thats unconfirmed.
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I'd also like to hear a comparison between the two, if you have the time (I had pre-ordered the 101 until the Gtab showed up in my sites). I'm hearing mixed reviews on the LCD and I'm curious if it has the same viewing angle issues.
And if you could do a dump of /system, that would be awesome. I'd love to be able to port their media player over to the GTab.
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You may be correct. But, I'm not so concerned with Gingerbread right now, just the 2.2 upgrade later this month. There's no telling when the HDMI/hybrid cable will make it stateside from China for the Viewsonic. And, if they haven't fixed all the crap we've had to wade through on this forum to get this thing remotely close to passable by Black Friday sales, Viewsonic will be toast. LOL!
Can you imagine the everyday consumer turning this thing on to see what we saw with the TNT & no Flash Returns with be en masse!!!
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a combination of the two would be ideal. once we get the official hdmi dock that will eliminate the need for the kickstand and the hdmi port. i just hope that viewsonic is gonna get some updates out to us quick. i know what you're saying about not being worried about gingerbread right now(however i believe i meant honeycomb, tablets will be shipping with it soon http://androidandme.com/2010/11/tab...th-tegra-2-could-arrive-as-early-as-february/) but i also do not want a device that will be outdated soon after i buy it. i would love to see a comparison of the 2 though while you have them both.
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Crimton, you say that cuz of Archos bad update procedure in the past right. They've mentioned they need to and will improve that. Just like the Archos 101 was released with 2.1 in UK, and getting 2.2 in the next 2 weeks. End of November. They also said they will do future updates on these newer, better tablets. but we will see. Just like Samsung, they have a terrible track record.
I'm not buying the 101 for Gingerbread. I'm buying it for a cheap, low cost tablet to enjoy for the next few months. and in Feb, or March I'll get a 2.3 or 3.0 HTC or Moto tablet that will be feature complete and more of a tablet experience. Since 2.2 really isn't fully there yet. And what do you mean the tegra will have gingerbread support. because LG, and Moto are releasing Tegra 2 phones in Q1. Yea your right. but by then i'll be getting something better I'm sure.
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i agree, i am really looking towards an htc tablet as well. also i meant to say honeycomb not gingerbread(see link above), i believe that is whats supposed to be optimized for tablets. but when the htc tablets start rolling out my wife or daughter gets the g and i will get a new htc
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i agree, i am really looking towards an htc tablet as well. also i meant to say honeycomb not gingerbread(see link above), i believe that is whats supposed to be optimized for tablets. but when the htc tablets start rolling out my wife or daughter gets the g and i will get a new htc
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I'm right there with you dude! If/when that HTC tablet hits, my daughter gets a hand-me-down! LOL!
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MY delivery date isn't up yet, but UPS is showing Signature Confirmation Required. I work tomorrow and monday. damnit. I better have someone around to get it.
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Same here:
Tracking Detail
Billing information has been sent to UPS. Check site later for updated shipment status or contact shipper for more details.
Tracking Information
Tracking Number: 1ZXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Status: Billing Information Received
Shipped To: GLEN ALLEN, VA, US
Shipped/Billed On: 11/19/2010
Type: Package
Service: NEXT DAY AIR
Special Instructions: SIGNATURE REQUIRED
Weight: 3.50 Lbs
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I'm right there with you dude! If/when that HTC tablet hits, my daughter gets a hand-me-down! LOL!
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right and if everything goes right it should be just around tax return time ;-)
I am interested to know the plug-in comes with 101. I owned 2 of Archos 605 wifi devices. Archos charge for every plug-in. FOr example, DVD Mpeg2 play back, Web browser, Cinema plug-in. All plug-ins cost me almost same as the device. SPecially, the plug-ins are serial number specific, I can't reuse the same plug-in in the other one device I own. I am so curious to see what included in the price. As I saw the plug-in is downloadable but is option. Just my experience.
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Did you guys consider you might prefer the g tablet? Remember archos 101 will probably never see gingerbread, and the tegra2 will have honeycomb support. The ui is probably better with the archos...for now. Just have to weigh the pros and cons. However there are a few features the 101 has that are nice, like hdmi and the kickstand.
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Agreed. Flash performance, game emulators and Quake already play far better on the G-Tablet.
Out of box though, the 101 is better (obviously).
Tinker types = Gtablet
Ugghhh! UPS updated. My device will be here Monday not tomorrow. :-(
Archos, ZPad(GTablet) and Toshiba are compared in this forum post. Interesting things regarding their selection of LCD screens and comparison of multitouch capabilities, viewing angles. Interesting read.
http://www.hkepc.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=1521745&extra=page=2

2 new Honeycomb Tegra 2 10 inch tablets for $400~$450

Just read an article that pointed to Best Buy for a new Asus 10 inch android tablet with better specs than our beloved gTabs for $400. And... it's already got honeycomb.
Asus Eee Pad Transformer tablet
Acer Iconia A500
The Asus Transformer is delayed for a U.S. launch now until the end of this month due to supply shortages.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/13/asus-apologizes-for-eee-pad-transformer-delay-it-wont-detail-u/
I *really* hope they can release it at $400, the recent video preview (Via Slashgear) made it pretty attractive (to me at least).
This is one of the devices I was eyeing. Allegedly it has an IPS screen as well. Anyone who's read my posts long enough knows how badly I want an IPS screen.
Yep, the Eee Pad Transformer looks like a winner to me.
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I guess we'll have to wait for someone here to get one in their hands and do a proper review.
If it gets love from the creative folks at xda then I may sell off my second gTab and pick one of these up once it's released to the public.
and im now disappointed in my gtab before i even get it, thanks alot!
hopefully it cant be rooted =D
At this price I'm interested as well. I have a couple of friends who are interested in my Gtablet with the Vegan rom and accessories for around $300. If Honeycomb isn't available for the Gtab by the time this comes out I may make the switch.
Isn't it being released April 6th? 5 days?!?!
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and im now disappointed in my gtab before i even get it, thanks alot!
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Don't be. It's $285 (assuming you are a Woot! user) and this ASUS device has NOT been released yet. It may not show up for a month, or longer.
The GTAB will be dated one day, but that's going to happen for all electronics, it's unavoidable.
That dock (that basically turns the tablet into a laptop) looks sweet! Even though the price for the dock hasn't been announced (at least not to my knowledge) I want it.
Also, the fact the tablet comes with an HDMI port on it rather than relying on the dock is also pretty cool.
It will be very interesting indeed to get the review when someone here can get their hands on it.
If I can confirm this will be available for $400 @ Best Buy next week, I will be putting my gtab on craigslist ASAP and coughing up the $115 extra for IPS screen with honeycomb!
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and im now disappointed in my gtab before i even get it, thanks alot!
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Don't be, man. If you always want the latest and greatest, you will never buy anything at all. Ever. With the number of companies in the world and how fast they are moving in research and development, whatever you buy will always be outdated.
Personally, I think the gtab is good for me for at least a few years.
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Isn't it being released April 6th? 5 days?!?!
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I'll believe it when I see it. But if this thing comes out in 5 days in my local BB, I will be getting one! This could replace my SmartQ R10.
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If I can confirm this will be available for $400 @ Best Buy next week, I will be putting my gtab on craigslist ASAP and coughing up the $115 extra for IPS screen with honeycomb!
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Plus a built in HDMI port.
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If I can confirm this will be available for $400 @ Best Buy next week, I will be putting my gtab on craigslist ASAP and coughing up the $115 extra for IPS screen with honeycomb!
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I would wait to see the reviews. The Motorola Xoom (honeycomb) out of the box wasn't as zippy as our gTabs.
And besides, you got a helluva deal on your gTAB purchase compared to early adopters like me that paid the $400 on them in November/December of last year. Who knows, if you get your gTab and put a custom ROM on it (I'm running VEGAn 5.1.1) you may decide to wait a while before you fork out that extra $115.
I have thirty days to return gtablet to Sears looks like I might do so and get Asus
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im scouring the web for a real price/release date now...
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I would wait to see the reviews. The Motorola Xoom (honeycomb) out of the box wasn't as zippy as our gTabs.
And besides, you got a helluva deal on your gTAB purchase compared to early adopters like me that paid the $400 on them in November/December of last year. Who knows, if you get your gTab and put a custom ROM on it (I'm running VEGAn 5.1.1) you may decide to wait a while before you fork out that extra $115.
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the only flaw for the gtab is the screen viewing, which im sure a IPS screen would resolve
ill be watching this closely. thanks for the heads up. and with roebeet on-board, the possibilities are endless.
no pressure.

Transformer 2 apparently coming out in a month or so, This transformer already outdat

Since i just read about the Transformer 2, seems like this transformer is already outdated, and i was planning to buy this in a few weeks. Do you guys know any REAL information leading to REAL facts saying that this transformer 2 will come out in september or october?
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Since i just read about the Transformer 2, seems like this transformer is already outdated, and i was planning to buy this in a few weeks. Do you guys know any REAL information leading to REAL facts saying that this transformer 2 will come out in september or october?
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Truthfully, there are no real facts when waiting for a new product. Dates may and will change.
EEE Pad Transformer sent this
Link to the source?
ive heard from nvidia and asus that this MAY happen and there is no real data
the next asus is said to have the kal-el chipset from nvidia not out till sept or oct with means the next tablet wont come out till even later then that if the #2 is coming out at all soon
but some of the data from the kal-el chip set is that is runs 1ghz quad core but nothing else is know about this tablet so dont keep your hopes up
kal-el will probably arrive as late as Q1 2012
Indeed, I ordered my TF on friday and happy with my decision. If you start waiting the next device, you will NEVER buy one, cause after TF2 is announced (my guess is Q1/2012, plus the wait to buy the damn device), someone will announce newer model, that has something better than TF2 and will come out in next few months. Then you start waiting that too?
Also there is NO official information about the release of TF2!
Just buy TF now!
Kal-el is quad core, but even now only few programs take advance in dual core, and still plenty of power to run anything. Dunno if there is any other new technology in that chip (and bugs)...
Imo the only differences could and would be video performance.But.. what about that additional battery drain?
But then again, what's coming new in icecream sandwich we don't know 100% so maybe a full new layout that could even utlizie desktop apps. Here's something of interest http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/08/02/asus-confirms-eee-pad-transformer-2/ quite small though.
Imo transformer 2 next year, because think about it if they release it now at the same price as transformer 1 many people would be quite mad epically now as it's only just has come to Australia.
I would say "outdated" only when a new has actually hits the market. Not even when officially announced. But even then you would have to compare the price tags. Nothing prohibits Asus to sell a cheaper less powerful model and in parallel a "newer" more powerful one with a higher price.
As bytetemplar wrote there will always be a newer model in a few months time.
So grab yourself some deal (or not, the price is still very competitive with respect to other brands) and start enjoying the TF101 today.
Edit: For the same street price you can now have the HP TouchPad if you wanna go with webOS
The Slider and the Memo were anounced for a very long time now and they are not released yet, so i think that 1 month is to optimistic.
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A quote from that article..."Of course, coming months is completely ambiguous"
Just saying.........
Honestly, how long do you think it took them to make the transformer? Consider that Viewsonic had the GTab out a good what? 7 or 8 months before the Asus Transformer hit the market. And a good 4 months before the Xoom hit the market. All things considered, I'd be surprised if we see a Transformer 2 based on a Tegra 3 (Kal-el) before years end. I'd be surprised if we see it before Q2 of 2012. Not only does it take time to integrate everything, you still have to build up the software. They won't be able to just throw HC3.2 (or ICS) on it right away.
I'd be willing to bet, the only way we'd see a TF2 before 2012 is if they used another SOC (ie MSM8xxx or a OMAP4) and already have it in hand and have finished the hardware RIGHT NOW. Otherwise, you're looking into 2012 for a new product.
Like someone else said, if you want a tablet and are considering the Transformer, then buy it. If you want to wait for the next best thing, you'll always be waiting for the next best thing. First you'll wait for Tegra 3, then you'll wait for Tegra 4...etc...Just buy it and use it and be happy. The only time I'll start considering upgrading, is when the TF no longer gets updates (be it from Asus or from the community).
the only transformer that will be coming out very soon is the 3G version, kal-el dev boards aren't easily accessible yet, let alone a consumer device
Asus Benelux says on facebook end of 2011 but probably it will hit us in Q1 2012.
Nice discussion. Im also waiting for Transformer 2, but you are right, just buy it now or wait forever.
Also, do we know when will the 3G version hit the stores??
the big problem with this is waiting after it will be available to buy
u will have to wait more to get good kernel root bootloader hack
and what about new os of android ICS u will wait more to become stable
thats lots of waiting oh and dont forget apps for it and more and more....
right now u have nice thing with all u might need and ready to use
so why wait
tf1 is enuf for most of uses grab one and let other wait
And the delay game begins....
http://www.bgr.com/2011/08/18/asus-quad-core-eee-pad-transformer-2-reportedly-delayed/
Don't worry, with the 3g version only just being released. Expect the transformer 2 to hit the stores around early q2 2012 otherwise Asus won't have enough time to soak up all the sales juice Plus all the angry rage from the tf101 users
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And the delay game begins....
http://www.bgr.com/2011/08/18/asus-quad-core-eee-pad-transformer-2-reportedly-delayed/
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Even if I hadn't just bought this TF in late May, I wouldn't buy first-run production of the new one. I learned my lesson on the first iteration -- any more TF purchases will be delayed until all the bugs are out.
Seen as it's almost now November would people recommend waiting before taking the plunge in buying a Transformer, ive done my homework and i can safely say this looks to be the best tablet on the market (ive zero interest in iPad or anything apple related) is there any more information on the horizon as regards the Transformer 2 yet?
Thanks
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Seen as it's almost now November would people recommend waiting before taking the plunge in buying a Transformer, ive done my homework and i can safely say this looks to be the best tablet on the market (ive zero interest in iPad or anything apple related) is there any more information on the horizon as regards the Transformer 2 yet?
Thanks
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Just buy the ipad 2. I hear it's the best tablet out there.
Nov 9 is the official announcement date of the TF2. Only asus knows when the official release date (when it's available for the public) will be.

Worth the wait?

Me AND my girlfriend have been looking to get this tablet for a few months now... She is just a girl that won't use it to the extent I would... As an example she has my old evo 4g while I have the 3d... so I was wondering if I should get this transformer now for her and white for the transformer 2 or if I should just get both now...
Any comments on either tablet?
Tia
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it all depends. correct me if im wrong but the transformer 2 doesnt have a guaranteed release date. it has an expected one. if you can wait it out for a few months or longer by all means. but honestly there will ALWAYS be a new device with better specs announced months , hell even days after getting a new device. you'll be waiting forever with the " i gotta have the latest and greatest" mentality. but hey its up to you. i say just get it now
Is getting the TF for you now and then hand it to her when the TF2 comes out and you buy it for yourself an acceptable solution?
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I'm pretty sure it will be easy to sell the TF if you want the TF2 once it comes out. Craigslist for $350 easy.
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I'm pretty sure it will be easy to sell the TF if you want the TF2 once it comes out. Craigslist for $350 easy.
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yeah but once the tf2 comes out wont that drop?
Get an ipad 2. At least you'll know the value of that thing will not fall so easily.
Well IMO, I would go for a transformer now (as I did). There is no guaranteed release date for the TF2 and I don't want to sound pessimistic, but it'll contain new hardware and new OS, so probably it will have issues and it will take some time to iron out the early and unforeseen bugs. Hopefully I am wrong and it will be good straight from the launch I'll get one and sell the "old" if it will be much better than the current.
The tegra 3 chip is due to be released at the end of this year. It will take some time for asus engineers to adapt the chip into their tablet design. It will also take some extra time to stamp out bugs.
So, how long are you willing to wait? My prediction is we will see the gen 2 TF next March or April.
You go ahead and wait if you want.
If you're buying now? No it's not worth buying! when it was first released with android 3.0 it was a great device, almost perfect, but with constant worthless updates that have only ruined it my advice would be don't bother.
The last straw for me was updating to 3.2 (in the end i decided to because of constant *&(%&** pop-ups telling me there was an update available, and i just got pissed off with them) which totally ****ed up my music player, art never loads correctly.
I emailed them about a cure and they suggested a factory reset, which i did, then spent 4 hours re-installing my music only to have it go back to the same problem 2 days later.
There advice now is to send it in for a replacement, just for a ****ing software update that they had reason wahtsover to release in the first place, accept to help those wingy baby winers who ask for constant updates in the sad belief that new equals better
Did you know you can buy a 32gb xoom for the same price as a 16gb transformer I did
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If you're buying now? No it's not worth buying! when it was first released with android 3.0 it was a great device, almost perfect, but with constant worthless updates that have only ruined it my advice would be don't bother.
The last straw for me was updating to 3.2 (in the end i decided to because of constant *&(%&** pop-ups telling me there was an update available, and i just got pissed off with them) which totally ****ed up my music player, art never loads correctly.
I emailed them about a cure and they suggested a factory reset, which i did, then spent 4 hours re-installing my music only to have it go back to the same problem 2 days later.
There advice now is to send it in for a replacement, just for a ****ing software update that they had reason wahtsover to release in the first place, accept to help those wingy baby winers who ask for constant updates in the sad belief that new equals better
Did you know you can buy a 32gb xoom for the same price as a 16gb transformer I did
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Let me understand: getting rid of bugs and improving the speed, adding features is bad... OK, fine. So you got rid of a fast updating device for the fastest one? Makes a lot of sense. Like, totally. Why not the Galaxy Tab 10? If Samsung does the same as with the original one you'll probably see up to 3-4 updates during the whole lifecycle.
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I'm getting mine next month.Mid October. Should I skip or get it?
goodintentions said:
Get an ipad 2. At least you'll know the value of that thing will not fall so easily.
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You disappoint me...
So I talked it over with my girl and I think I got an idea...
If the TF2 is released late Q4 like all my googling has me to believe then I will get the TF1 in a few Weeks... Tweak it all out thanks to XDA and it's awesome developers and when the TF2 comes out I'll get that and my girl will put up $250ish + a "few favors" for the TF1... then BAM! Geeky couple all over again
Idea?
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Did some research,the Transformer 2 real? and it's coming next month? Is it confirmed?
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You disappoint me...
So I talked it over with my girl and I think I got an idea...
If the TF2 is released late Q4 like all my googling has me to believe then I will get the TF1 in a few Weeks... Tweak it all out thanks to XDA and it's awesome developers and when the TF2 comes out I'll get that and my girl will put up $250ish + a "few favors" for the TF1... then BAM! Geeky couple all over again
Idea?
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But it's true, whether you want to hear it or not.
I kept my eyes big and wide and was able to get the TF brand new at $255. Combined with my keyboard dock, that was about $380 I paid for my TF+dock setup brand new. I have not been able to find an ipad or ipad 2 anywhere near that price.
If you are worried that something newer and better is just right around the corner, why not get an ipad 2 so you can resell it for almost the value you paid for it?
Again, the tegra 3 will be released by nvidia at the end of this year. It will take asus at least 3 months to get these chips into their TF2. And it will take them another couple months to stamp out the bugs and smooth out the hardware-software compatibilities. My prediction is sometime in March or April, possibly May.
I first heard about asus building the transformer a whole year before it actually came out. There's a lesson for you.
So, since you are having doubts about getting the TF now, might as well get the ipad 2 and then next April you can try to get your hands on the TF 2 and resell your ipad 2 at almost its original value.
Either that or be like me and be happy with what we have right now. I have absolutely no intention to upgrade unless I see another deal like the one I had with my TF.
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GetPatriotized said:
Did some research,the Transformer 2 real? and it's coming next month? Is it confirmed?
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That same rumor said the transformer would come out in 2010. I remember anxiously waiting for it. Well, a whole year later, it finally hit the market.
Yikes!
So,is it too late to pick up the Transformer say in a couple of weeks? October? Are there any other quad-core tablets shipping in the coming months? Besides the Transformer 2?
GetPatriotized said:
Yikes!
So,is it too late to pick up the Transformer say in a couple of weeks? October? Are there any other quad-core tablets shipping in the coming months? Besides the Transformer 2?
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Yeah im sure there will be but i REALLY like the whole Netbook/Tablet thing... ESPECIALLY if windows 8 is a goal for developers... All i really need a PC for right now is Minecraft and that should be fixed on the Transformer... I've gone the last year without a decent computer because i have had my EVOs... so a Transformer would be a good Mix for me... I thought about the Galaxy 10.1 but i didnt like the keyboard options it came with... So its the TF/TF2 for me!!!
I would say buy now. The longer you wait, the less likely u are going to find revision B60 or below...the revisions that can be rooted/rom'ed. I have already read a horror story about how some dude went to multiple stores and checked the entire stores stock looking for B60 or below and couldn't find one. The B70 revision has been out for a while now and it still hasn't been rooted yet. You may end up having to buy one on ebay or something if you want to root it.
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I would say buy now. The longer you wait, the less likely u are going to find revision B60 or below...the revisions that can be rooted/rom'ed. I have already read a horror story about how some dude went to multiple stores and checked the entire stores stock looking for B60 or below and couldn't find one. The B70 revision has been out for a while now and it still hasn't been rooted yet. You may end up having to buy one on ebay or something if you want to root it.
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Wow... Maybe i should research a but more on this... Thank you so much i didnt realize that was an issue i had to look out for...
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.. She is just a girl that won't use it to the extent I would...
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Huh??? - sheureka (who is just a girl)
sorry to offend... i know girls who are like you are few and far between... I wish my girl were as interested in Android and tech as i was...

Toshiba excite pro or new Asus tablet?

Both will feature tegra 4, 2560x1600,microsd,front & rear facing camera I assume new Asus will be unlockable but nothing is definite-
Do you think Toshiba will have better i/o?
I wouldn't mind a change but I will wait to see how it plays out ?
IF Asus fix the I/O then I think with ASUS pedigree in the Tab market and hopefully strong Dev Community which is already here you'd feel and hope it would be the better purchase. But it mostly rides on the I/O will have to wait nearer the time I suppose.
Is there an a release date with it yet?
Haven't seen a release date, as it may have to depend on how fast they are cranking out Tegra 4 chips. I would go with ASUS based off their past performance in updating devices faster than other manufacturers. But like most, the I/O performance is going to influence the upgrade from those on these forums, or Toshiba or HP may be getting some customers. I would imagine an mid-July early August release for these devices.
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Release date
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Haven't seen a release date, as it may have to depend on how fast they are cranking out Tegra 4 chips. I would go with ASUS based off their past performance in updating devices faster than other manufacturers. But like most, the I/O performance is going to influence the upgrade from those on these forums, or Toshiba or HP may be getting some customers. I would imagine an mid-July early August release for these devices.
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You can order june 25 from toshiba direct
The Toshiba 32gb apparently will be $100 less than the Asus. The catch is no keyboard dock option, or steady updates. They also like to use proprietary connectors, so no advantage there. If Toshiba updated more, I would lean more to saving $100. I rarely use my TF300 dock.
I think the Tegra 4 chip is going to be a watershed point and be a near death blow for some laptop segments. The iPad 4 is already causing it and this should be a near final straw.
Edit: Both 32gb models are same price, so getting the Toshiba IMO would make no sense due to lack of updates.
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The Toshiba 32gb apparently will be $100 less than the Asus. The catch is no keyboard dock option, or steady updates. They also like to use proprietary connectors, so no advantage there. If Toshiba updated more, I would lean more to saving $100. I rarely use my TF300 dock.
I think the Tegra 4 chip is going to be a watershed point and be a near death blow for some laptop segments. The iPad 4 is already causing it and this should be a near final straw.
Edit: Both 32gb models are same price, so getting the Toshiba IMO would make no sense due to lack of updates.
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Well not only that the Toshiba has locked boot loaders. Good luck rooting it as it does not seem like even the existing models have support for that.
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Well not only that the Toshiba has locked boot loaders. Good luck rooting it as it does not seem like even the existing models have support for that.
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I have the Toshiba Excite 7.7 and appreciate the locked thing Device works great though
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IF Asus fix the I/O then I think with ASUS pedigree in the Tab market and hopefully strong Dev Community which is already here you'd feel and hope it would be the better purchase. But it mostly rides on the I/O will have to wait nearer the time I suppose.
Is there an a release date with it yet?
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Well, I hope Asus has learnt from their mistake in ruining all of the good components in Infinity with I/O issues. This, however, makes me wonder what were they thinking when they released Infinity with such a laughable I/O performance. Mind you I eventually sold my Infinity. It was very frustrating to install ROMs one after another just to gain a bit of performance. Despite of loving Android as a mature OS, I am going back to iPad to focus on using the tablet rather than fixing mistakes of greedy careless hardware manufacturers. Are you listening Asus?!
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Well, I hope Asus has learnt from their mistake in ruining all of the good components in Infinity with I/O issues. This, however, makes me wonder what were they thinking when they released Infinity with such a laughable I/O performance. Mind you I eventually sold my Infinity. It was very frustrating to install ROMs one after another just to gain a bit of performance. Despite of loving Android as a mature OS, I am going back to iPad to focus on using the tablet rather than fixing mistakes of greedy careless hardware manufacturers. Are you listening Asus?!
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Of course they are not listening. You are not talking to them.
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Of course they are not listening. You are not talking to them.
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Actually I am talking to them by not buying their products again.
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It was very frustrating to install ROMs one after another just to gain a bit of performance. Despite of loving Android as a mature OS, I am going back to iPad to focus on using the tablet rather than fixing mistakes of greedy careless hardware manufacturers.
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So what the hell are you doing on an Android developement forum dedicated to exactly that?
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Actually I am talking to them by not buying their products again.
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Because one person not buying their stuff is really making a notable difference...
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ShadowLea said:
So what the hell are you doing on an Android developement forum dedicated to exactly that?
Because one person not buying their stuff is really making a notable difference...
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Lol! I am glad you are enjoying it. I get it. Sometimes it is hard to admit a wrong purchase.
Now cool down and read this: If it was not for the great work some of the developers do here I wouldn't keep it for a day. TO name a few, CROMI and CM10.1 really made it tolerable and even great in some aspects. But I cannot blame you for simply being a fan. There are fanboys in all of the camps. Android and apple.
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Lol! I am glad you are enjoying it. I get it. Sometimes it is hard to admit a wrong purchase.
Now cool down and read this: If it was not for the great work some of the developers do here I wouldn't keep it for a day. TO name a few, CROMI and CM10.1 really made it tolerable and even great in some aspects. But I cannot blame you for simply being a fan. There are fanboys in all of the camps. Android and apple.
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Not a fanboy, I lack a few dangling bits between my legs for that.
I do not regret my purchase at all. I have not noticed much in terms of lag, certainly not as much as people claim there to be. Compared to my GT 2 10.1, which I most certainly do regret buying, it is razorsharp and very smooth.
Maybe others are too proud to admit a mistake, but that is a male ego trait. I have neither pride nor ego, let alone the need to defend it.
All I meant was that it is a little lame to go on an Android forum to say Apple is better.
I bought the Excite Pro, good piece of equipment, some cons ofc but i'm really enjoying it, to bad about support though.
Toshiba is pretty bad for update efforts. My Toshiba Excite 7.7 is an example. Toshiba are also awful with making efficient firmware that does not bleed the battery while in sleep mode. Even with wifi off it bleeds more than most tablets. Wonder if same for the new T4 tablet.
Got the Toshiba Excite Write!
And it looks to be a damn fine tablet. Antutu scored 28k+ and the graphics power is phenomenal. Has built in video and audio enhancements, seems pretty stable on this kernal build, although I expect an update soon because of a couple of weird quirks. The stylus works great (love the eraser by turning over the pen!), but not as developed as the Note 10.1, however, the screen rez is fantastic at 320 DPI and looks as good as the Nexus 10. The rear camera is REALLY great...best I've seen so far on a tablet, and the speakers are clear as a bell with excellent surround sound controlled in hardware, so anything you play gets enhanced. It does get a little warm on the left side under the camera when running an intensive app.
If you have any questions or requests, fire away!
Good day
From where you get toshiba pro or write i want to buy a new one
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salman saso said:
Good day
From where you get toshiba pro or write i want to buy a new one
Thank you
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I pre ordered from Toshiba and they shipped it the next day even though it said they weren't shipping till the 18th. I guess they wanted to live up to the Excite part...lol
What is the expected release date for the asus tablet?
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titou00075 said:
What is the expected release date for the asus tablet?
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Our guess is as good as yours. They have been really quiet since the reveal. I would guess mid August for back to school season
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