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Any BT gamepad and keyboard?

Will I be able to use a BT keyboard or gamepad with my
desire?
Read about it at the N1 forum but its seamd to be a bít of a bother
to get it to work.
Is there a HID inbuilt in the Desire or do I need an app?
What I want to be able to do is to write long documents with the keyboard and play games useing an emulator and a gamepad.

I understand that the Freedom Universal 2 should work on the Desire with (not free) an app from the Android market place (search using "bluetooth keyboard"). I have ordered this keyboard as soon I manage to test it I will post results.

Sounds wonderful.
Im looking forward to your review.

Regarding the gamepad:
http://www.mymobilegear.com/showthread.php?p=17452

I'm also interested in whether a bluetooth keyboard will work. I'm getting an Apple Bluetooth mini keyboard soon, which should be nice to use at times when I'm away and need to type some long emails

I have a noname BT keyboard that works out of the box with windows mobile. With Android, the keyboard can be paired with the Desire, but it seems that no key input services are available in the Desire BT implementation. I understand that there is a BT driver floating around that could fix this issue. If I find the solution, I will post an update.

Bad news my Freedom Pro keyboard does not seem to work with the KeyPro app, the only app in the Android market as far as I know that provides drivers for BT keyboards. I have left a message on the mymobilegear.com forum so hopefully the developer will respond sson.

There is another driver/app: blueinput. I cannot get it working but you can try your luck.

Unfortunately the teksoft BT driver does not work either - major problem after a rebooted I found I could not enter my passpword and therefore had to do perform a hard reset! You have been warned (look here: http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=blueinputandroid&tab=download)

what a shame.
thanks for your tries and i would love to use an external bt keyboard too.
i will try to find a cheap / second hand bt keyboard to test around

With Blueinput and KeyPro I think the issue is that they cannot work with the BT on the Desire. I have left messages on the developer forums but no feedback yet. Blueinput, if it worked, would be very promising as it should work with most HID keyboard (iGo, Stowaway etc).

Seams as if the kayboard have to be a SPP kayboard.
Not HID.
Freedom is working on a driver for android for their own Freedom
series keyboards.
Would be great to hear news about this.

Ethania said:
Will I be able to use a BT keyboard or gamepad with my
desire?
Read about it at the N1 forum but its seamd to be a bít of a bother
to get it to work.
Is there a HID inbuilt in the Desire or do I need an app?
What I want to be able to do is to write long documents with the keyboard and play games useing an emulator and a gamepad.
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Save yourself for a wii remote. they (xda) will have it working with Desire soon if not already. Do a search and you'll find more details

agent.m said:
Save yourself for a wii remote. they (xda) will have it working with Desire soon if not already. Do a search and you'll find more details
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I have been looking into this aswell. Im following the Wii-project
closely. But I also think a BT keyboard would be great.
Just got "documents to go" and a keyboard would make writing
much smoother.
Freedom Universal 2 looks relly good, since the Freedom Pro is a bit too
large.

Apparently these sorts of bluetooth apps don't work with Sense-enabled phones.
Not sure if flashing a non-Sense rom would fix it, but then the CM Rom doesn't have working bluetooth anyway.

think there was a modaco rom that worked with wii remote. not sure about othe r bluetooth stuff

Hey guys, has anyone found a Playstation-style bluetooth gamepad that works with CyanogenMod's Bluetooth HID implementation? I've already tried playing SNESoid with my Freedom Universal bluetooth keyboard, and while it works, it's obviously not as nice as with an actual gamepad. Any suggestions?

Dualshock 3 on Android

Now correct me if I'm wrong here, but I believe it is currently not possible to use a dualshock 3 or sixaxis with Android correct?
Well I was digging through the Samsung Galaxy S' source code and came across a bunch of files in the eclair build's folders. More specifically a bunch of files which lead me to believe they added Dualshock 3 connectivity to the Galaxy S through some means. If anyone wants to take a look at the attached file, be my guest.
I found these files in the \external\bluetooth\bluez\input folder
the main files seam to be fakehid for decoding the PS3's output into fake keypresses, and sixpair for pairing the controller.
Any experienced Android system modders care to take a look and possible add support for dualshock 3 and sixaxis into as many builds as we can?

You may not be able to use dualshock, but you are definately able to use a Wiimote, at least it's gamepad. I use the pp found on the market for my Mother 3 ROM playing cuse I don't have Multitouch on my X10, plus it looks cool to be able to control your phone with a Wiimote.
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so now that has me thinking, what if you set the master address of your dualshock 3 to your phones BT address and tried to connect, thats how you have to do it on Windows Mobile because Sony decided the best way to pair a bluetooth controller is by cable
EDIT: I'd try but I don't have an Android phone at the moment, killed my HD2 a week ago and waiting for the Samsung Vibrant to come out.

+1 for Android-DualShock-Support

I'm working on this right now. I changed the BT master address on my controller with six pair, but I'm having a tough time getting it to connect to the phone. As of right now, the two don't act like the other exists.

This would be awesome. Especially if we find a PS/PS2 emulator (haven't checked to see if there is one already or not.

I hope someone is working on this, it would be to cool to be able to use this controller over a wiimote.

PSX4Droid is out!
we have one more reason to get this working!!

I wont be happy in life until I can play Metal Gear Solid and FF7 on my Samsung Epic with a dualshock 3.
I'll even pay for it. (HINT HINT)

I just recently found myself wishing for this when the PSX emulator came out.

I've done some googling and came across this this source.
sixpair.c. (Only required if the SIXAXIS is to be used with a non-PS3 Bluetooth master.) The SIXAXIS apparently does not support the standard Bluetooth pairing procedure; instead, pairing is done over USB, which is arguably simpler and more secure. This command-line utility searches USB buses for SIXAXIS controllers and tells them to connect to a new Bluetooth master.
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So it appears that sixpair.c is a common linux application that will search USB busses for sixaxis controllers. The issue with connecting to something like an Android device is that the Sixaxis pairs over USB (no pushbutton like on the Wiimote), so it will be tricky to get paired with a phone.

I know the Nokia N900 guys managed to get the sixaxis working with Maemo 6 so its not impossible
tomasz dot sterna dot tv/2010/02/play-games-on-nokia-n900-with-ps3-sixaxis-controller/

kennethlongshaw said:
I know the Nokia N900 guys managed to get the sixaxis working with Maemo 6 so its not impossible
tomasz dot sterna dot tv/2010/02/play-games-on-nokia-n900-with-ps3-sixaxis-controller/
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Makes sense, he just uses sixpair on a linux machine to pass the bt address of his phone (as opposed to the bt address of the actual machine). Ideally we could remove the PC from the equation entirely, but I could settle with this for now.

if anyone can make this happen it'll be the first app I pay for

I know USB host is getting enabled on several phones, there's hacks for the Nexus and Desire. Maybe a starting point is to use this functionality to pair by cable?

i also came across this here in my search, im guessing the people talking about it here on xda are prob. the same as the ones im linking to.
but i thought it was worth linking to.
HTML:
http://www.baconbuzz.com/r/Android/comments/diy22/android_bounties_ps3_dualshocksixaxis_support/

No news? for psx/snes/mega/etc emus
would be incredible, in wm is awesome playing with a psx DualShock3 is priceless
I am surprised that nobody has created this driver bt for ds3 in android

Please, News ?

well there must b a way cause i know for windows mobile theres a program called cobalt controller that u can use to connect either a wiimote or a ps3 controll

Would love to see some work on this would defiantly donate / pay for an app that made this work. Especially now FPSE is on Android!

Minecraft Pocket & Sixaxis Controller

I have just started using Free Minecraft Pocket Demo with my sixaxis controller. You need to use a controller because the game requires physical buttons as its made for the sony experia. Works pretty well there are a few bugs but nothing major.
Here are the links if interested.
Minecraft Pocket Demo apk: http://www.apktop.com/minecraft-pocket-edition-0-1.html
Sixaxis Controller App: http://dancingpixelstudios.com/sixaxiscontroller/instructions.html​

Doesn't work on Inc1 so what's the point of this?

TokedUp said:
Doesn't work on Inc1 so what's the point of this?
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It's working fine on my Incredible.

When I tried that app to get the six axis working its said no. So you must have some magical Inc that allowed it to work, tell us what you did. I had a whole topic on this in the q+a section cuz I want to use my six axis for emulators. I had no responses of how to get it to work.

How do you map "enter" or whatever it takes to smash blocks? Also have you played around with the full version? Minecraft Pocket?

I'm using miui....not sure if it makes a difference. I am running a slcd Droid Inc with .92 hboot. I installed the app turned on Bluetooth and no issues. I contacted the sixaxis dev to see if I could get more info on mapping the input commands for 360 movement and smashing blocks. He hasn't emailed me yet but I will update the post when he does. I can't seem to find the paid app in the market does anyone else have luck finding it?
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TokedUp said:
When I tried that app to get the six axis working its said no. So you must have some magical Inc that allowed it to work, tell us what you did. I had a whole topic on this in the q+a section cuz I want to use my six axis for emulators. I had no responses of how to get it to work.
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Are you running a sense based rom? I remember that the wiimote Bluetooth wouldn't work with sense based roms so I assume that its the same for the sixaxis. You might want to try switching to an AOSP rom (CM7, MIUI, OMGB) to use the sixaxis app.
Also we won't be able to see the paid version in the market. It only appears for xperia play devices.
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Running sense, can't live without it. Oh well.

TokedUp said:
Doesn't work on Inc1 so what's the point of this?
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Use the apk provided in this thread. It is fixed to work on the inc

I must have the only one it doesn't work on

This is just too funny my kids are into Minecraft. I better not let on that it can be played on my phone I would lose it. LOL!

TokedUp said:
I must have the only one it doesn't work on
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Unfortunately, Sense framework's Bluetooth driver doesn't support connecting Human Interface Devices (HID) like a controller or keyboard.
You'll need to run an AOSP based rom, as they have a different Bluetooth stack that does support HID connections.
Also, another fun fact: TV-out only works on Sense based roms, so if you're like me and dream of playing emulator games on you DINC with a wiimote and watching the video on the TV, that'll have to stay a dream.

Ignore me. I just realized that even though I selected "Search within Incredible 2" I still wound up in the Incredible 1 page. Sorry about that.

I have the paid version of Minecraft PE, got it when Google had the $0.10 app sale last fall. I am running CM7 and can use my six axis controller with SNES and NES emulators. I am having no luck with Minecraft PE though. How do you get the controller to work with Minecraft PE?
Edit: I downloaded the demo in the OP and the six axis functions in the game. However, L3 and R3 both run. I can only run and jump. Am I missing something here?
What I need:
Edit Button Mappings
Work with paid verision

So.. what happens when this is turned off? Do I have to pair again with the computer?
I don't normally have a computer to get a hold of so I'm curious what would happen if I synced it to my ps3 after using it on my phone, could I just keep the address and sync it back?
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So long as it's not paired with any other device again (PS3 or computer) it will still work with your phone. It would be great if I could pair the remote with the phone over USB.
-Mooney
I found the touch profiles and created one for Minecraft PE. I have the analog_left walking and cross controls the block placement/removal. I cannot get analog_right to work correctly. When trying to turn it only turns as far as a touch from the center of the screen to the right/left of the screen.
The app is listening for a touch and the analog_rght provides a touch for that amount of screen space and when the analog_right goes back to center, the guy goes back looking forward too. As if a finger was moved from center -> side of screen -> center. That's my theory.

JMooney5115 said:
So long as it's not paired with any other device again (PS3 or computer) it will still work with your phone. It would be great if I could pair the remote with the phone over USB.
-Mooney
I found the touch profiles and created one for Minecraft PE. I have the analog_left walking and cross controls the block placement/removal. I cannot get analog_right to work correctly. When trying to turn it only turns as far as a touch from the center of the screen to the right/left of the screen.
The app is listening for a touch and the analog_rght provides a touch for that amount of screen space and when the analog_right goes back to center, the guy goes back looking forward too. As if a finger was moved from center -> side of screen -> center. That's my theory.
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I actually got this work.. although its still buggy..
I don't think this will work for this game. It requires a lot of pressing the controller don't have. In general it works perfect. But the GUI and crafting and closing are the problem makers.
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I will be able to play it. I emailed the dev of the six axis app and he told me how to fix my analog_right problem. All you do is set the button to relative touch. To do this select analog_right Menu -> Button Properties -> Relative Touch. Now it works. I set the sensitivity to about 75-80%.
-Mooney

So close!
samuraixzodus said:
I have just started using Free Minecraft Pocket Demo with my sixaxis controller. You need to use a controller because the game requires physical buttons as its made for the sony experia. Works pretty well there are a few bugs but nothing major.
Here are the links if interested.​
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I came very close to getting this figured out. I had the left controls set with the D-pad because if you set it with the analog you would hop around randomly. I set the minecraft options to Split controls, then set an area on the right to the right analog...this is where I came into my trouble, I will inform later on. I set my brick inventory to circle and jump to X. Then I set in the middle of the screen R1 to break and place blocks. Everything was find except for the right analog. It would sense a touch, making it place and break blocks when using the right analog, plus it would reach all the way over to the left controls and just freak out. So if you came up with a solution to this problem please let me know what you found out. Thanks.​

I'm sorry to bump this, but is anyone still interested? I've mapped my left analog for the movement( I just changed some button properties) and right analog for view(and building blacks and stuff). Its not complete, but you can play with your controller. My only hindrance is mapping to your block selection. I've mapped triangle as the inventory, but you have to use the touch screen from there. If anyone's interested, send me a PM and I'll send you my mappings.
Chao.

Use your Xperia Play as a game controller for your tablet!

https://market.android.com/details?...wxLDEsImNvbS50b3VybmVzb2wudGFibGV0cmVtb3RlIl0
I'm gonna try this tonight! Anyone else use it? It has specific settings for the Xperia Play....

I dont think the physical buttons work.
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KindaUndisputed said:
I dont think the physical buttons work.
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They don't seem to you're right. it looks like it emulates the Xperia play using the touch screen.... Damn

Could someone try contacting the developer? I think I've already tried...
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Wouldve been nice.. I need a gamepad for my tablet, About to buy that onlive universal controller.

Funny, I'm looking for the same thing.
Is there nothing out there that can do this?

Hope no one minds if I bring this thread back - I've been looking around for solutions for this (even before this thread) and stumbled upon androdhid a while back, but I still haven't tried it out:
http://code.google.com/p/androhid/
I more recently found android-bluetooth-touchpad and actually gave it a try:
http://code.google.com/p/android-bluetooth-touchpad/
I couldn't get it to work with Windows, but maybe I was doing something wrong or maybe they were running into the same problems that androhid ran into (they talk about it here: http://code.google.com/p/androhid/wiki/AndroHid ), but I did get it to work with my Android tablet and was able to use it to move the mouse pointer around and click, but the keyboard feature didn't seem to work very well. In contrast, androhid claims to provide a working keyboard, but no mouse support due to technical hurdles, although a commenter mentioned he had extended it to get mouse support working (I tried contacting him, but no response).
So anyway, we have here two at least somewhat working solutions that at least work with Linux/Android, if not Windows. And they're open source.
How interested would ya'll be in adapting these into something with the Xperia Play in mind, so you can use your Xperia Play as a bluetooth gamepad compatible with Linux/Android tablets? (and also as a mouse/keyboard) I may try and work on this if I can find/make the time. It'd be nice to get it working with Windows too, but that might be further off. Or if someone else wants to spearhead it, I'd be willing to help as I'm able. I'm not promising I'll have much time for this any time soon though, but it hopefully shouldn't be too hard.
Or does anybody already have some other good solutions for this? Seems like the solutions I've seen either aren't very good, or rely on custom software on both sides of the connection (both a client and a server, whereas by following the HID standard, you only need custom software on one side-use app on the phone and connect to any android tablet with bluetooth hid support, which most ICS and beyond tablets will and maybe some Gingerbread).
Further down the road I'd even like to get USB HID working, but I'm pretty sure that would require kernel-level development. (ie connect your phone via USB and it acts as a USB controller too)
EDIT: Or maybe I necro'ed the wrong thread, but not sure this one had any good answers either:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1730561
~Troop

If it helps, such an app would be relatively easy to make for the buttons and dpad but not the touch pad.
The problem is no one had any incentive to do it.
It would be awesome if the maker of TabletRemote would implement it, he already took care of all the grunt work (nice ui, register each other, settings, etc.)
I made a proof of concept app in a few hours and it worked just fine.
I don't know what the point if this post is.
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Tablet Remote + GameKeyboard = EPIC WIN !
I can use my Xperia Play gamepad as a bluetooth gamepad for my new Nexus 7 and it works perfectly !
Use Tablet Remote for bluetooth remote control, use GameKeyboard to map physical buttons to touch events and you're done !
(However I think GameKeyboard needs root access ...)

hatcyl said:
If it helps, such an app would be relatively easy to make for the buttons and dpad but not the touch pad.
The problem is no one had any incentive to do it.
It would be awesome if the maker of TabletRemote would implement it, he already took care of all the grunt work (nice ui, register each other, settings, etc.)
I made a proof of concept app in a few hours and it worked just fine.
I don't know what the point if this post is.
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I was really just hoping to stir up some interest to motivate me to actually do some Android development. I'd like to spend some time doing Android development, but I rarely have the motivation since I do enough programming as my full-time job and tend to want to relax and do other things when not at work.
You're right, it seems like there isn't that much incentive for this, so it would be nice if developers who already have apps that are so close to what we're talking about to extend their solutions to cover this.
injection18 said:
Tablet Remote + GameKeyboard = EPIC WIN !
I can use my Xperia Play gamepad as a bluetooth gamepad for my new Nexus 7 and it works perfectly !
Use Tablet Remote for bluetooth remote control, use GameKeyboard to map physical buttons to touch events and you're done !
(However I think GameKeyboard needs root access ...)
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Good to know that that combination works out, even if it is a bit roundabout! Shows that having a workable solution matters more to users than following standards. (EDIT: And I don't mean that in a negative way, I'm just saying getting something working is what's most important, worrying about following standards and implementation details is something programmers worry more about than users)
~Troop

injection18 said:
Tablet Remote + GameKeyboard = EPIC WIN !
I can use my Xperia Play gamepad as a bluetooth gamepad for my new Nexus 7 and it works perfectly !
Use Tablet Remote for bluetooth remote control, use GameKeyboard to map physical buttons to touch events and you're done !
(However I think GameKeyboard needs root access ...)
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In fact it works, but you can't press some buttons at the same time ... so I must find an other solution ...

There should be an app that allows to use the Xperia Play as a gamepad on PC. I thinks it's an idea that would completely rock.

I think you can do that already. Just acts as a HID.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=app.pcon&hl=en here ya go. Think thats the one.

Miles Wolf said:
There should be an app that allows to use the Xperia Play as a gamepad on PC. I thinks it's an idea that would completely rock.
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Yeah, I would like that eventually too. Unfortunately, that's more difficult to do, at least as a true HID device... both the androhid and bluetooth touchpad projects I mentioned ran into a roadblock trying to work with a Windows host (because they don't quite emulate a true/full HID device, just almost, which is "good enough" for Linux). Connecting to Linux distributions which use the Bluez bluetooth stack is very doable, however. Maybe it'll be possible to modify/recompile the Android Bluez bluetooth stack to overcome this, but that makes it much more challenging and puts it further off.
There might be other strategies involving custom driver software on the PC to make it work though that would be easier. (The advantage of operating to the HID standard is that it works with PCs/tablets/phones out of the box without special drivers/software on the host)
Do go watch the demo linked to on the page below, he uses his app in gamepad mode to control a mario-like game running on Linux:
http://code.google.com/p/android-bluetooth-touchpad/
EDIT: Or guess the non-HID solution already exists as Mysticales pointed out above. Note that it is likely not truely emulating a HID device since it requires Java software on the PC. Still, it should get the job done!
~Troop

I just managed to use my Xperia Play as a controller via wifi for my PC and it works WONDERFULLY!
Heres what i did
downloaded and install this :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=app.pcon&hl=en&rdid=app.pcon&rdot=1
you also need to download the PC client for it to work
Theres a Xperia play mode included but its awful , some buttons dont work and the X button fails to register after using the dpad.
So what i did was use Joypad 1 (the one with the on screen controls)
And used GameKeyboard with a 6 button controller.
End results? it worked perfectly.

[Q] What is the best SNES emulator for the Shield?

What is the best SNES emulator for the Shield?

I am using snnes9x ex+ and it works for me.

chevyowner said:
I am using snnes9x ex+ and it works for me.
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Seconded. I'm not having any problems, and the mapping works great.

I use the other emulators on the market from that dev as well. They are kind of spendy but they work great and he gives great support.

are the mapping of the controller easy and simple to use?

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are the mapping of the controller easy and simple to use?
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Very easy. You simply go into the key mapping setting in the emulator and push each button on your controller that corresponds to the buttons in the emulator. Takes a minute or so and you only have to do it once.
Some buttons might not work in all emulators though especially the two trigger buttons and the right analog stick. But some emulators work with all the buttons.

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Very easy. You simply go into the key mapping setting in the emulator and push each button on your controller that corresponds to the buttons in the emulator. Takes a minute or so and you only have to do it once.
Some buttons might not work in all emulators though especially the two trigger buttons and the right analog stick. But some emulators work with all the buttons.
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ok cool thanks for the reply i may need to give it a try, i have yet to download any emulator or play around with them but i think i might pick this one up. once again thanks.

SuperGNES worked well enough for me to pay 4$ for the full version

Thanks for all of the suggestions.
Thank you all for the suggestions. I guess the ROMs I have are old or something. All of them did not work so well. Most did not load the games it would just crash. With snes9x ex+ I was able to boot one game. I finally paid for Animaonline SNES Emulator and all of the ROMs loaded. A couple were a bit glitchy, but that is better that not loading at all. Mapping the controller on the shield worked great. If anyone has a problem loading ROMs give this a try.

Snes9x through Retroarch works very well.
Retroarch is an obvious must for any Shield anyway, and it's free.

bonapartist said:
Snes9x through Retroarch works very well.
Retroarch is an obvious must for any Shield anyway, and it's free.
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I had never heard of that before and it's exactly what I was looking for, basically OpenEmu for Android. Thanks!

shinratdr said:
I had never heard of that before and it's exactly what I was looking for, basically OpenEmu for Android. Thanks!
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Your welcome. Be prepared for any given update to make it work wonky for a few days to 2 weeks, that's just my experience when using it with the Xperia Play. The team behind Retroarch is obviously very talented but may overextend a little bit sometimes I feel.

SNES9x emulator for windows 10
I have used SNES9x for my windows 10 and it works great.