Weak wifi performance - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I don't understand why the wifi reading on my ns4g is coming up significantly shorter than my wife's iPhone 4. Both phones on the same network but my ns4g is pulling 5mbs down and the iPhone is getting 10mbs down while side by side. Uploads are pretty comparable.
Granted 5mbs down is more than I really need, I was just curious as to why I would only get half the wifi download speeds.
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p00kienrayray said:
I don't understand why the wifi reading on my ns4g is coming up significantly shorter than my wife's iPhone 4. Both phones on the same network but my ns4g is pulling 5mbs down and the iPhone is getting 10mbs down while side by side. Uploads are pretty comparable.
Granted 5mbs down is more than I really need, I was just curious as to why I would only get half the wifi download speeds.
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Sigh the wifi just sucks on our phone

Yep, really poor wifi signal. Low power chip, saves battery blah blah blah...
Just can't find if this can be fixed or we should live with it

How are you testing the speeds? Apparently a lot of the tests are not accurate.

It's something I'm suffering from too I've sat next to my router and still not had full signal
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i used speedtest.net app and linpack. consistent speed readings. the ns4g is the strangest phone i've had when it comes to data speeds. i guess the 3g/4g speeds are issues with sprint, but even wifi is kinda funny.

I get 5679/730kbps 54ms 2m from router, 3289/376kbps 12m from router in the next room. The problem is that that is as far as I can get without loosing wifi signal. I get 2 out of 3 bars 2m away from the router, 0 bars 12m away, while with my old ****ty HTC Tattoo (Click) i had 2 out of 3 bars in my backyard.
Stock 2.3.4 i9023

Yeah, agreed, it's beyond terrible...
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when it shows 4G on the top bar... wth
I'm new to T-Mobile. I've seen nothing past 2mb down... and that's at the high end. I'm usually at 1.2 down consistently.
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700 KBPS Download and upload..... showing 4g icon...
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I think it just depends on your area.
I'm pulling 5-7Mbps down and .6-1.4Mbps up from my house.
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Jesuscat said:
I think it just depends on your area.
I'm pulling 5-7Mbps down and .6-1.4Mbps up from my house.
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I figured that... so I've been running speed tests in all kinds of areas. Especially anywhere new it in major areas in different cities. I'm just trying out the service so I'm really interested in how fast the network is. I have yet to go above 2mb down even with a 4g signal.
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Just because it says 4G it does nto mean you have a solid 4G backbone or infrastructure to support faster. It's the same with the others to. My friends on Sprint & Verizon who live away from the major city centers get 4G signal but speeds like this.
Also most regions for T-Mobile cap the upload at below 100 kbps.
DeezNotes said:
I figured that... so I've been running speed tests in all kinds of areas. Especially anywhere new it in major areas in different cities. I'm just trying out the service so I'm really interested in how fast the network is. I have yet to go above 2mb down even with a 4g signal.
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If you will check in settings/about phone/status/ I find that the display is showing 4G but it is on UMTS not HSPDA or HSPDA+ I have yet to see my device show either HSPDA or HSPDA+ even when in VERY strong signal area. My vibrant at least shows HSPDA in those areas even though it is probably not taking full advantage of it. I really like this phone but my Vibrant is getting as fast or faster dl speeds than it is. I am not sure what is up with it, but it looks as if 3G is as good as it might get with my phone at the present time regardless of type and strength of signal in area., I do not know if this is the case with all the devices but it is with mine. I can only hope a software fix is issued. I hope it is software issue and not HW. I really want to keep this phone but will not if issues are not addressed.
It has a LOT to do where you are and saturation of the cell site. There are 2 main factors with cellular data. Your signal to the tower and the tower to the network (or the backhaul).
You can have the strongest reception in the world to the tower but if the connection from the tower to the network is saturated (too many people using it, etc.) your speeds will be capped.
This is exactly why if you use your phone late at night or at odd hours when less people are on the tower, you get faster speeds. No real way around this.
Happens on every carrier I've used including AT&T, Sprint and Verizon. I'm in the NYC area so sucks big time for me.
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I think it just depends on your area.
I'm pulling 5-7Mbps down and .6-1.4Mbps up from my house.
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I get the same speeds as this. Pretty fast imo.

Data Speeds

Has anyone else had an issue with the data speed on their galaxy s 4g? I am getting "4g" but the when I run a speed test it stops a couple of times and then resumes. Maybe post up numbers of your speed tests in 4g areas?
It always seems to hesitate to hook up.
I have a rooted 4g fyi.
Ping
573ms
download
1773kpbs
upload
1420kpbs
Mine's decent.
Holy crap. What am I doing wrong? Is there a firmware update or something?
I'm on whitehawkx's deodexed KC1. That test was a good one, it's usually like 10-12mbps. what area are you in? Did you have better speeds before or has it always been at that speed? It may just be your area.
But there is an update available through kies mini.
Im in Salt Lake City. Most of the area is 4g with a few spots of 3g, at least so was the map that I looked at. I just barely ran a speed test on it for the first time because I noticed that the connection was rather laggy. Do you think a new sim may solve the problem? Because I am using one that is about 3 years old or so.
Yes. Activate the new SIM the phone came with. I've been told that the older SIM's aren't quite compatible with 4g. I had my last SIM card for about 6 years when I got this phone and finally decided to use the new one. And run the test several times, the first one is always the slowest.
I'll do that and report back lol. Hopefully it will improve.
He's right, you need to use the new SIM. The old SIM is probably not using 4G tower services and still using 3G tower services.
I have just put in the new sim and it's gotten much speedier but it's still not as fast as it should be. What are your network settings?
Even though vegas was on of the first cities turned up for 4G, I've never seen crazy speeds. I'm not complaining, the speeds are always good, just nothing crazy for a phone that is capable of doing 21.1 mbps.
I just did a speedtest comparison between my SGS4G and HTC THunderbolt. and man! Thunderbolt is getting 21mbps and My SGS4G is only getting 5mbps But Thunderbolt Battery sucks!
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I just did a speedtest comparison between my SGS4G and HTC THunderbolt. and man! Thunderbolt is getting 21mbps and My SGS4G is only getting 5mbps But Thunderbolt Battery sucks!
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wow, what a big difference. any thoughts as of why?
My galaxy s 4g was faster then my buddies thunderbolt lol
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My galaxy s 4g was faster then my buddies thunderbolt lol
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I think it ALL depends on the area and carrier. Like tmobile 3g is way faster then cousins AT&P 3g. But in the next town His edge is faster than my edge!?!
Yes I agree, it all depends on the areas. Plus if you are on t mobile than you better only use 5gigs of data a month or below or they will throttle your speed
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Slow Sprint Nexus S 4G data speeds. Normal?

I got a Nexus S 4G, I'm getting slow speeds. Anywhere from 0 to 300kbps on average. I pulled 500kbps a few times. Did a speed test next to a friends Evo. Evo pulled 1.2 mbps, the Nexus pulled 200kbps.
I called Sprint, and they flashed a few things on their side and I updated the usual suspects, but nothing changed.
I don't know anyone where I live who has one, so I was wondering if the folks here who have one have noticed slower than normal or even downright abysmal data speeds.
Thanks!
ive been blaming the network. results havent changed across multiple different devices.
I checked mine when I was in a 4g area about an hour ago and I got 4.1M down and 800K up
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ive been blaming the network. results havent changed across multiple different devices.
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my reference is for 3g exclusively. granted cdma is capped at 3.1 but sprints 3g network is far slower.
ive experienced terrible sprint 3g speeds for over a year with multiple different blackberry's, multiple htc hero's, multiple htc evo's and now the nexus s 4g.
How sad. What's the use in having unlimited data if it's so slow you can't stream music on Pandora, or download things. Might as well go to AT&T and sign up for my allotted 2gb data. They have really fast data speeds around here.
Zysoclaplem said:
How sad. What's the use in having unlimited data if it's so slow you can't stream music on Pandora, or download things. Might as well go to AT&T and sign up for my allotted 2gb data. They have really fast data speeds around here.
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Go with which ever cell company is best for your area. Here in Nashville TN, the CDMA is dominant. Where as Verizon / Sprint service is strong. My Nexus does on average 8Mbps to 10Mbps down on 4G and 1 to 2Mbps.
So im definitely taking advantage of the unlimited data usage and love it. I do about 2-3 GB of data a week lol.
If the network is slow in your area, Sprint just aint for you just as TMobile just wasn't for me lol.
The day I got my phone, last sunday, I tested the 4g speeds. It was very disappointing. I was getting the same speeds or sometimes slower than 3g. I will have to try again tomorrow if I remember to see if it improved. I'm measuring this against my old epic that used to connect to 4g much quicker and easier and it hauled ass. The ns4g is pokey. I don't know if it's psychological or not but I thought I got better speeds on the epic and evo for 3/4g.
After running some more test on the Nexus 4G. I noticed running the speed test app gave me slower speed results then other 4G phones. But when downloading large files while tethered using bittorrent or just large files in the browsed I seen the speeds hit 700KB/s to 1MB/s which is around 9-10 Mbps. I also noticed the indicator next to battery for 4G light up 2 bars where normally it is grey for no activity and 1 bar for some activity.
Maybe Google did something new to the Nexus 4G vs other 4G phones where it attempts to save battery power by not using much speed until its actually needed. Also starting to think the 4G bars don't represent reception but might represent the speed or data being transmitted which also explains why it turns grey and green.
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Used the evo up until December before I jumped to at&t. Was pulling 1-1.5mbs down consistently in my area on 3g. Now with the ns4g its my first time back since 5 months ago and I'm averaging <.5mbs down in my area on 3g! Its not the phone bc I was getting the same speeds on my temporary echo phone.
My only assumption is that within the 5 months I was gone, an assload of ppl jumped on sprint's network.
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p00kienrayray said:
Used the evo up until December before I jumped to at&t. Was pulling 1-1.5mbs down consistently in my area on 3g. Now with the ns4g its my first time back since 5 months ago and I'm averaging <.5mbs down in my area on 3g! Its not the phone bc I was getting the same speeds on my temporary echo phone.
My only assumption is that within the 5 months I was gone, an assload of ppl jumped on sprint's network.
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i would agree, except for the fact that i just came from an htc hero and was pulling 1-2 mbps on 3g and now on my brand new ns4g im getting less than 1 mbps on 3g. Im very disappointed idk what to do i spent so much money on this phone.

Slow LTE speeds?

Hey guys i'm using the HTC Thunderbolt and i'm have an issue. The first week I had it I was getting speeds from 20mbps all the way to 32mbps down...now im barely getting 5 up and 3 down. Any advice?
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same here, im gettin 11 up and 5 down.
los angeles, ca.
As more 4g devices are sold our connection will get slower and slower you can't really expect 20mb down can you? I mean Sprint network only gets 3 down on 4g ours won't get that slow but just a comparison.
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5 up and 3 down here also, it has slowed way down for me!!!
Had that problem the other day. I was getting mid/low 2s. 5 isn't that bad. It's advertised speeds are 5-12.
EDIT: Just checking my speeds now, getting low 2s again.
that should be around what it should be once lte gets more and more used right?
I'm getting 10 down and up. What ROMs and radios are you guys using?
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same here the other day
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I'm getting no issues on mine. Speeds are still the way they were. ~25down ~6-7up (in mbps)
of course that could change as more people jump in to the lte bandwagon.
In Cincinnati I was pulling 30ish down the first week, and now I am seeing consistant 11 everywhere, and in some places 15-20. Depends on where I am. Same signal strengh where I am at home and at work, but at work I do sit around 20 down, and at home 11ish.
Pretty happy with LTE over all, compaired to the WiMax I had that I couldn't even get in my house. lol.
23.09 Mbps down and 15.75 Mbps down here, it stays about the same all day, give or take 5 Mbps.
thats on CM7 though, im sure on stock it would be higher.
It's been the same for me and better too. At work my speed has been consistently ~17-20Mbps. The difference in the last week has been at my house, where I've gone from ~5-9Mpbps to ~15-20Mbps, rivaling my home FIOS connection. WOOT!
As long as VZW continue to expand their 4G network, it should be relatively easy for everyone to break 10Mbps
I haven't seen any noticeable difference here in the Metro-Detroit area. Last speedtest i ran was around 13-15 up and 4-5 down.
One thing to remember is that the speedtest.net app doesn't give consistent or accurate readings. If you go to speedtest.net from your phone's browser, you'll see much more accurate results.
Just ran a speedtest and got 30 down and 7 up. No difference at all for me. I'm in Baltimore, MD.
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Yeah im stock and rooted no roms or anything. Strange that im not getting the double digits here in Philadelphia. Had them at one point
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rocketboy6885 said:
Yeah im stock and rooted no roms or anything. Strange that im not getting the double digits here in Philadelphia. Had them at one point
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I just tested inside Pittsburgh and only got 7 down 3 up. When in the outskirts I was getting 11 5 speeds. Just wanted to show you that being in the city usually makes a difference.
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Yeah im stock and rooted no roms or anything. Strange that im not getting the double digits here in Philadelphia. Had them at one point
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i dont live in philly but ive never tested above high 7's down/up. fastest has been 7.8ish down and the same up. normally it's between 5 and 6. i've been to and thru the city a lot since getting the TB @ launch, including testing with 4 bars on a boat under the Commodore Barry Bridge, elsewhere on the Delaware river, and a few miles up the Schuylkill with no obstructions and the fastest was still mid-7s. Also have done tests in Olde City, near the sports complex, and in centre city. nothing above 8.
across the river in NJ along the 295 corridor i get the same 4G speeds as philly. i've never tested faster than 8mbps down anywhere so far, which includes all of philly, northern DE near Wilmington, and the baltimore-DC corridor and greater DC.
running stock non-rooted with speedtest.net app. via wifi @ home i hit my advertised speeds of 16-20 down
maybe our 4G just sucks...didnt they even do initial LTE testing here? verizon is extremely present and active in phila. since it's basically a home city for them.
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i dont live in philly but ive never tested above high 7's down/up. fastest has been 7.8ish down and the same up. normally it's between 5 and 6. i've been to and thru the city a lot since getting the TB @ launch, including testing with 4 bars on a boat under the Commodore Barry Bridge, elsewhere on the Delaware river, and a few miles up the Schuylkill with no obstructions and the fastest was still mid-7s. Also have done tests in Olde City, near the sports complex, and in centre city. nothing above 8.
across the river in NJ along the 295 corridor i get the same 4G speeds as philly. i've never tested faster than 8mbps down anywhere so far, which includes all of philly, northern DE near Wilmington, and the baltimore-DC corridor and greater DC.
running stock non-rooted with speedtest.net app. via wifi @ home i hit my advertised speeds of 16-20 down
maybe our 4G just sucks...didnt they even do initial LTE testing here? verizon is extremely present and active in phila. since it's basically a home city for them.
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Actually I'd say your 4G rocks and is the best management of Verizon's network. They advertise 5-12Mbps down and 2-5Mbps up, and you are in the middle to low end of that guaranteed speed down and easily in the middle to top of the upload. That means Verizon is paying for the right amount of bandwidth to all of their towers in the area that you have been on, without overpaying to have way more than is needed like the people getting 16Mbps all the time. That 16Mbps means they have like 2x more bandwidth than needed, so they are paying the ISP's twice what they really need to and are thus making less money, from a business standpoint your region is the perfectly managed area. If your average speeds drop below 5Mbps be sure to call in and complain though.
Meh this LTE network is finckey. I probably should have specified that im in more of the suburbs in Radnor near Villanova
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I am running the new gignerbread rom, and I used to get around 11 mbps, and now I am getting around 3.

[Q] AT&T users.

Love the Nexus 5. By far the perfect phone. But my question is does anyone get any drop signals? At times my data will just go completely blank then come back. Could be the my area. But just had to ask.
No problems with AT&T in SE Michigan.
Well it could just be the area that I am. The wife has a iphone 5s and she gets none of the drop calls.
No issues with me in STL.
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I definitely think that the signal is a bit worse than it was on my One X. It tends to drop completely in areas where my One X had marginal signal but still connected. I'm in Northeast Florida.
I've actually had this the last few days, a split second of no service and then back to normal. This is in thy southwest and west suburbs of Chicago.
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I notice the signal strength shows low (2-3 bars lower) compared to my old S4 but when I make a call it jumps to max. Could this be a battery saving thing?
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No issues with me in STL.
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STL REPRESENT
couldn't pass it up.
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marcusva79 said:
Love the Nexus 5. By far the perfect phone. But my question is does anyone get any drop signals? At times my data will just go completely blank then come back. Could be the my area. But just had to ask.
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Just to be clear you did not flash any custom roms with radios or anything right?
No issues here. I travel weekly for work and so far I can say no issues in the following areas:
Lexington, KY
College Station, TX
Atlanta, GA
Houston, TX
Knoxville, TN
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it is just AT&T and in your area. I carry a Verizon Galaxy S4 and my Nexus 5 on AT&T around. I can consistently get awesome coverage and 25-35mbit speeds on my Verizon phone. Sometimes I question if AT&T data is even working, and a speedtest will show only 5mbit down. I know its not the Nexus 5 because I can have other random people I am with on AT&T do speedtest on various phones and have the same issue.
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Love the Nexus 5. By far the perfect phone. But my question is does anyone get any drop signals? At times my data will just go completely blank then come back. Could be the my area. But just had to ask.
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I work in central Mass, and the signal in my office is horrid... for LTE. If I force it to only use HSPA+ (Settings > More... > Mobile Networks > Network Mode > 3G) I have full service of HSPA+ and no dropped signals. Coming from an HTC One (where there are like... 25 bars to display signal) I'm thinking it's just an aesthetic change for me mostly.
coolguy949 said:
I notice the signal strength shows low (2-3 bars lower) compared to my old S4 but when I make a call it jumps to max. Could this be a battery saving thing?
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2 biggest battery drains are screen and radios. Newer radio chips are much better at conserving juice. And why turn up the radios if you don't need them. S800 soc has a lot of battery saving features, and newer lte chips use a lot less juice.
In other words, yes, that's a battery saving thing.
Coming from a gnex, this has great battery life, and has double the cores and clock speeds, and a graphics chip that compares to a lower end pc add in video card. Gotta love that technology!

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