For those of you who are experiencing the random reboot issue on the stock rom, would anyone be willing to do a factory reset without installing any apps and testing for a while to see if they still have the reboot?
I want to find out if this issue is a problem related to specific g2x's, or is triggered by some kind of software installed.
The reason why I want to test this out is because I have gone through 6 phones(waiting for 7th), and I can not recreate this problem on any of them running the same restored nandroid backup.
Also, for those of you who have gone through multiple g2x's, have you had phones with reboots and also ones without the issue
Since it seems LG is not recognizing this as a known issue, it most likely won't be fixed in the update they announced. Therefore its up tous to try find the cause of this issue whether it is device specific or due to certain apps installed.
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xdmds said:
For those of you who are experiencing the random reboot issue on the stock rom, would anyone be willing to do a factory reset without installing any apps and testing for a while to see if they still have the reboot?
I want to find out if this issue is a problem related to specific g2x's, or is triggered by some kind of software installed.
The reason why I want to test this out is because I have gone through 6 phones(waiting for 7th), and I can not recreate this problem on any of them running the same restored nandroid backup.
Also, for those of you who have gone through multiple g2x's, have you had phones with reboots and also ones without the issue
Since it seems LG is not recognizing this as a known issue, it most likely won't be fixed in the update they announced. Therefore its up tous to try find the cause of this issue whether it is device specific or due to certain apps installed.
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6 phones? Did you ever once suspect the software?
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I thougjt I clarified in my original post that none of mine had the reboot issue and I was not able to recreate it either.
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If it a software related issue, it couldn't be the ROM since some people have this issue on other roms. It could be the kernel but all g2x's come with the same kernel out of the box IIRC and only some people are having the issue.
EDIT: wow I'm really inaccurate typing in portrait mode
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I never had a reboot issue in Arizona and I just got back to Ohio today and i have randomly rebooted 4 times today and I had to do a battery pull this morning... crack that nut for me
I went through 2 G2x's.
First one stock, rooted, and CM7 - all ways would reboot.
Second one, stock, rooted and CM7, all ways would reboot, so I tried it stock and CM7 without any added on apps - same results both stock and CM7.
JWhipple said:
I went through 2 G2x's.
First one stock, rooted, and CM7 - all ways would reboot.
Second one, stock, rooted and CM7, all ways would reboot, so I tried it stock and CM7 without any added on apps - same results both stock and CM7.
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It seems that people who are getting reboots, are getting reboots across multiple g2x's, while people who aren't getting reboots, don't have the issue across multiple g2x's. So there must be some kind of installed software related thing that is not playing nice and causing the phone to reboot itself. There isn't enough info in order to make a definite diagnosis to the source of the problem yet which is why I made this topic.
I feel that it's definitely software b/c I've been running the leak without any reboot issues. They still need to also fix the kernel too
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I feel that it's definitely software b/c I've been running the leak without any reboot issues. They still need to also fix the kernel too
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what is confusing me is if it is software, why is it only affecting some people? the leak is running a different kernel so that could possibly be why you aren't getting reboots, but something must be triggering it that the people who have the issue have down/installed etc.
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what is confusing me is if it is software, why is it only affecting some people? the leak is running a different kernel so that could possibly be why you aren't getting reboots, but something must be triggering it that the people who have the issue have down/installed etc.
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I don't think the LG kernel for the G2x has been released :-\ BUT I could be wrong
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xdmds said:
It seems that people who are getting reboots, are getting reboots across multiple g2x's, while people who aren't getting reboots, don't have the issue across multiple g2x's. So there must be some kind of installed software related thing that is not playing nice and causing the phone to reboot itself. There isn't enough info in order to make a definite diagnosis to the source of the problem yet which is why I made this topic.
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Orrrrr...perhaps it related to the network somehow? Strength of signal or need for the phone to switch between 4G/2G? Or perhaps trying to go to the ever elusive 3g (since I still haven't seen a report of someone actually seeing 3g in the notification bar). Maybe folks with reboots are in fringe areas and the phone oscillates between 4g and 2g and doesn't like it? Maybe those folks use their phones differently...leave BT on all the time and run apps that access GPS regularly. Or any other number of possibilities.
It's too easy to blame an app.
I know that one of the barcode scanning apps caused my phone to lock up, and sometimes reboot.
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Orrrrr...perhaps it related to the network somehow? Strength of signal or need for the phone to switch between 4G/2G? Or perhaps trying to go to the ever elusive 3g (since I still haven't seen a report of someone actually seeing 3g in the notification bar). Maybe folks with reboots are in fringe areas and the phone oscillates between 4g and 2g and doesn't like it? Maybe those folks use their phones differently...leave BT on all the time and run apps that access GPS regularly. Or any other number of possibilities.
It's too easy to blame an app.
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Thats why I'm asking people to participate in this experiment. By eliminating variables one by one we can try to single out the cause.
EDIT: also, the 4g signal shows for both 4g and 3g. The only way u can tell which one you are on is by going to "about phone". UTMS is 3g then there hspa(+).
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Thats why I'm asking people to participate in this experiment. By eliminating variables one by one we can try to single out the cause.
EDIT: also, the 4g signal shows for both 4g and 3g. The only way u can tell which one you are on is by going to "about phone". UTMS is 3g then there hspa(+).
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check your pms xdmds
let me know if u need anymore help with tmobile
Mine actually rebooted randomly very often. It didn't matter what rom I had (Stock, Eagle, CM7). I tried everything.... factory resets, removed apps, etc. It's just very random when it decides to reboot. Sometimes when I'm using google maps, sometimes when I'm trying to text, or when I'm playing with an app. It got so annoying that I had to return the phone.
I noticed that the times my G2x has rebooted was when it got hot. For example, if I charge it, talk and surf at the same time it will start getting hot and either freeze or reboot. Sometimes just charging it will freeze it.
I'm trying out a new battery and so far the phone seems to run cooler...its 25.2c right now and I've been playing with the phone for a while...with the stock battery I dont remember the temperature below 27c ever...sometimes with heavy use I would see it go as high as 43c...
it's only been one day with the new battery but I'll let you guys know how it behaves the next few days.
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Well android leaves apps open. There is no exit button on the apps that kills it. I religiously kill tasks and check to see what's running. Is there any type of reporting app that will tell you what was running at the time of the reboot like maemo/N900 has?
As far as I know, I have not had one reboot. Has not been a full week though. If it was rebooting in the night, I guess I wouldn't know it.
Hell, I haven't had any real probs. My Gps was way off, but I rebooted it outside and it's been dead on since.
I love my G2X.
I just got an exchanged phone due to reboot/shutdown issues. I did not install any 3rd party software, and i had a shutdown that required a battery pull while it was on the factory charger.
Not sure if I should keep exchanging until I get one that works or not...
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I just got an exchanged phone due to reboot/shutdown issues. I did not install any 3rd party software, and i had a shutdown that required a battery pull while it was on the factory charger.
Not sure if I should keep exchanging until I get one that works or not...
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Did you have anything installed at all?
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My phone no longer reboots itself or freezes. It hasn't now for over a week but what tends to happen is after about 2 days of use it starts to lag and slow down like crazy. After I reboot it, its again super fast and smooth.
Its almost like there's a memory leak somewhere that is causing this and maybe certain apps cause it more than others? All I know is this has happened twice now and a reboot makes a huge difference.
Also and not sure if this is related but my GPS stops working until I reboot too. I think it's some app I have on the phone that's hitting a bug in the OS and causing this.
Maybe if it gets bad enough it causes reboots like people have been having?
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funny, i just realized this tonight as well. I had some probs w/ tmo service and had to do a reboot after talking to customer service. Yesterday was my last reboot. It was flying afterwards. Very noticeable.
Follow this procedure here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1051616
This patch addresses that issue. I experienced the same thing but when I did this I no longer get it. Hope it helps!
Bunch of people are now posting that they see issues after patching so I'm not sure I'm willing to try that yet.
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Follow this procedure here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1051616
This patch addresses that issue. I experienced the same thing but when I did this I no longer get it. Hope it helps!
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mobilehavoc said:
Also and not sure if this is related but my GPS stops working until I reboot too. I think it's some app I have on the phone that's hitting a bug in the OS and causing this.
Maybe if it gets bad enough it causes reboots like people have been having?
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I had the same thing happen last night...GPS would not start no matter what I tried until I rebooted the phone then it worked fine. I agree, there certainly gremlins in this software.
Here's hoping something is coming soon (see my post about the new software update message!).
I wonder if the bug is affecting phones differently. My only problem is my dam wifi. Will not connect under any setting. When it does connect little to no data can be sent. Some else posted this also.
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Follow this procedure here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1051616
This patch addresses that issue. I experienced the same thing but when I did this I no longer get it. Hope it helps!
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Bunch of people are now posting that they see issues after patching so I'm not sure I'm willing to try that yet.
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Agreed.. I've been following that thread.. The first clue was "some apps came up missing". Then a confirmation, and then another... and then I bookmarked the thread and decided to have some patience.
Yes good idea me too!. You'll also notice a bunch of people saying it made no difference. So not even worth the risk IMHO!
This just happened again to me. Did you have anything installed that checks location frequently? Shopkick maybe? Have you uninstalled any T-Mobile apps? I'm wondering what causes this since I don't remember having this problem before.
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I had the same thing happen last night...GPS would not start no matter what I tried until I rebooted the phone then it worked fine. I agree, there certainly gremlins in this software.
Here's hoping something is coming soon (see my post about the new software update message!).
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Follow this procedure here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1051616
This patch addresses that issue. I experienced the same thing but when I did this I no longer get it. Hope it helps!
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you say follow this Procedure.. what procedure?
there's just a file to download from the OP.
mobilehavoc said:
This just happened again to me. Did you have anything installed that checks location frequently? Shopkick maybe? Have you uninstalled any T-Mobile apps? I'm wondering what causes this since I don't remember having this problem before.
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The only thing I'm aware of is Weatherbug, but it's been installed almost since I got the phone (I have it set to track my location).
Um...that patch doesn't patch any kernel files therefore it won't do anything about crashing.
Yeah I noticed this yesterday, navigation refused to start, and things were being klunky, a nice reboot fixed it up!
I notice after a few hours/days things like the add widget menu start lagging pretty bad.
All the more reason to hope hope hope for CM7 with the quickness.
Do you still have Telenav installed? I removed it so not sure if maybe somehow it's related.
I have Shopkick installed, Weatherbug Elite, Beautiful Widgets which I all believe use network location services although none use GPS except Shopkick.
My guess is that the network location API has a bug and crashes so that's why GPS stops working because when it stops working, the GPS can still be turned off and on and apps report it's on but they don't get any response.
I don't use GPS often enough to know how long I've been having this problem. Apart from this, the slowness over time is the main thing I've noticed.
I think weatherbug might be causing weird issues. Ever since I updated a few days ago, when I reboot my g2x and my nexus, I'll get a little box stating it cannot update my location. Altough it does update my location, lol! My GPS will still turn on though!
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Do you still have Telenav installed? I removed it so not sure if maybe somehow it's related.
I have Shopkick installed, Weatherbug Elite, Beautiful Widgets which I all believe use network location services although none use GPS except Shopkick.
My guess is that the network location API has a bug and crashes so that's why GPS stops working because when it stops working, the GPS can still be turned off and on and apps report it's on but they don't get any response.
I don't use GPS often enough to know how long I've been having this problem. Apart from this, the slowness over time is the main thing I've noticed.
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I have not rooted as I didn't want the restoration hassle if I decided not to stick with this phone so yes, I do still have Telenav installed. My Weatherbug (free version) does turn GPS on to follow me.
After last nights GPS failure to start, the phone gave me fits late morning/early afternoon. I had no bars with an "x" and yet had a data connection (without 2G or 4G shown) at very slow speeds. Rebooted several times and had other similar odd behaviors.
At this point, I am giving serious consideration to ditching the phone before my 20 day trial is up and holding out for the SGS2. My TW Bionix running Vibrant works flawlessly with the single exception of flaky GPS. The big problem with SGS2 is the 4.3" screen...I really don't want a phone bigger than this so perhaps the MT4G might be a better choice.
Decisions...decisions...
OK, now the re-boots are starting. My GPS once again failed to start tonight so I tried to toggle it and it wouldn't turn off/on. I also normally leave bluetooth on all the time and I tried turning it off as well and it wouldn't turn off. It finally did turn off and when trying to turn GPS and bluetooth back on the phone slowed WAY down then re-booted.
First off I want to start by saying I have flashed my rom to Bamf 1.5 remix. I do not overclock my phone however I have tried limiting my clockspeed hoping to prevent a reboot. The phone did not start the random reboot until I flashed to said rom. I have tried reflashing but no improvements, any ideas?
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It has happened to me but I believe it just me OCing, flashing back to the kernel that I was using before when my phone was stable and testing it out. If not, I will just go back to 1.5
Also, does anyone know how to edit the power control widgets in the pulldown? I can't find any options. Thanks.
Did you flash the new radio when you loaded up BAMF 1.5?
If so, there's your problem
Happened to me with BAMF 1.6 and leankernel 192X, but only when I set it to ondemandX thru SETCPU. Other than that I've had no reboots.
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Did you flash the new radio when you loaded up BAMF 1.5?
If so, there's your problem
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yeah its pretty common for people who flashed the new radio to have reboots. i have had some of those issues, i found that using different kernels at different clocking speeds made my phone more stable. NOTE: i am not a pro, just something i noticed.
What's really behind all the random reboots?
OK... So I've tried just about every rom on the dev thread, I purchased the TB on launch date and had it rooted as soon as Jcase posted S-off instructions... I am now on the new radio and until today, I haven't had a single random reboot. Then all of a sudden, just about an hour ago, as I'm backing out of Tapatalk, bam... Phone rebooted itself...
Now I've been reading on just about every rom thread where people have been experiencing random reboots. Some think the new radio is the cause, but some people are on the new radio and have not experienced this. Others on the old radio still get random reboots.
Others think its the rom but people have noted this issue on most If not all of the rom threads.
Others think its the kernel that's causing it, but again, there doesn't seem to be any pattern to nail it down to a single kernel. Furthermore, some of these people are not OCing, myself included.
Which leads me to the strangest part of all this. My wife also has the TB. Her phone is totally stock and is not rooted. I got it for her day after launch and for the last few weeks, her phone has also been randomly rebooting. Not constantly, mind you. Just enough to be a nuisance. She has still not updated to OTA... The only suspect to this is that this appears to have started after the 4G outage a few weeks ago... And we are in a 3G only area but there was a day or so we could only connect to 1x...
So what's really causing these random reboots? I'm no expert, never claimed to be one, but is it possible that something going on between our phones and the Verizon network is causing this?
Thoughts... Ideas...?
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Great post. It's good to know even non rooted users are having reboots.
non-rooted.... Updated yesterday... and got a reboot today.
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I've had about six lock ups and reboots today since ehrpd has been back up
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I have had a few reboots across a few different rom, radio, and kernal combos. The only thing that all my reboots have had in common was I had GPS enabled. Ive yet to see a reboot with it off. Could just be a coincidence.
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I have had a few reboots across a few different rom, radio, and kernal combos. The only thing that all my reboots have had in common was I had GPS enabled. Ive yet to see a reboot with it off. Could just be a coincidence.
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GPS was also on when my phone rebooted... Google Maps was running.
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stock rom, not rooted, has had multiple random reboots
I have had no random reboots, or none that I have personally experienced. I figured if my phone was randomly rebooting I would have noticed a considerable battery drain. I have not noticed that yet. I honestly think that this might be an issue for people with little to no 4g coverage. I am bothered that this has not been addressed yet by verizon as I have seen so many people complain about this.
Hopefully I dont get these either, who knows may it is just phones that are may be defective hardware wise.
Well i just wanted to drop my $.02
I am Rooted and have been just about the same time the OP has been rooted.
I USED to have reboots. I install the full RUU and had reboots i also installed just the RADIO file and had reboots. I also reverted back to stock by the RUU provided by JCase. I Then flashed 1.6 followed 1.6.3 and have not had any problems. I assume that those 2 already had the radio file in them and i didn't not have to flash anything additional. Since being on 1.6 then 1.6.3 i have experienced not 1 reboot. Unless i did it myself.
I did notice then before when i did have the reboots (when i manually flashed RUU or just the RADIO file). I had reboots 3 different ways. I would either get a reboot when my phone had been sitting next to me for a while i would notice the white screen and know it was a reboot. Also the 2 other times was backing out of TapaTalk or native browser/dolphin HD.
So i don't know if that is in a way related. I just don't have them anymore.
I noticed that whenever my phone would reboot (on the leaked radio only,) I had a weak 3g signal. I watched this happen several times. My guess would be the people who aren't having reboots are in an area where they constantly have a good signal. Can anyone else corroborate this?
toebee76 said:
I have had a few reboots across a few different rom, radio, and kernal combos. The only thing that all my reboots have had in common was I had GPS enabled. Ive yet to see a reboot with it off. Could just be a coincidence.
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This is a possibility... But if that's the case this will be the first Android device I've owned that has rebooted itself randomly due to GPS. Even the Samsung Vibrant, which had horrible GPS right out of the box, didn't reboot itself when it was turned on...
However, if this is the case, why has this only become a recent issue.. now my memory isn't so good... But I don't remember seeing much about this issue on rom threads until recently... I.e the past few weeks... Neither my wife's nor my phone randomly rebooted until just a few weeks ago, and we both have our GPS turned on everyday, all day...
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BotsOne said:
I noticed that whenever my phone would reboot (on the leaked radio only,) I had a weak 3g signal. I watched this happen several times. My guess would be the people who aren't having reboots are in an area where they constantly have a good signal. Can anyone else corroborate this?
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I live in a strong 3G area and my phone has never re-booted itself as far as I know. I'm doing the update tomorrow and will be interested to see if the problem starts.....I hope not.
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I noticed that whenever my phone would reboot (on the leaked radio only,) I had a weak 3g signal. I watched this happen several times. My guess would be the people who aren't having reboots are in an area where they constantly have a good signal. Can anyone else corroborate this?
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Unfortunately, I had a solid signal when my phone rebooted this afternoon. I was a stone's throw from Philadelphia on I-95. I've never had signal issues along I-95 between New York and Philadelphia. I'm running the released update.
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I noticed that whenever my phone would reboot (on the leaked radio only,) I had a weak 3g signal. I watched this happen several times. My guess would be the people who aren't having reboots are in an area where they constantly have a good signal. Can anyone else corroborate this?
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This as well is a possibility... Although I am in an area where 3g is strong... I have seen on my and my wife's phone... Even when standing still... That the 3g icon will vanish and come back seconds later...I am in a decent sized college town, population of about 70000... I couldn't say how strong 3g actually is but its everywhere in the city limits... And most of the countryside...
I have traveled to cities with strong 4g but I didnt stand around long enough in a single place to really watch the phone to see if it was dropping data...
Thanks for the constructive input, everyone... Lets keep the corroboration going and see if we can find a pattern..
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The only time I had reboot was on the leaked ruu which is now the OTA.
Once I went to BAMF 1.5 with new radio and new base no reboot. About a week ago I flashed back to stock radio just to compare after being on the new one for a while. I see nothing different between them really.
Getting tried of watching my phone reboot. If going back to stock would resolve the issue I would do it. I called big red today and the pinhead I spoke to acted like it was the first time anyone had called about the TB rebooting on it's own. I'm looking at going to a different phone. I really think at this point it is a software issue that they need to correct. Just like with most businesses things are not addressed until they become a problem. So my thought is we should set a date when every one calls in to report their rebooting phones. We do this every week until we get a resolution. Anyone with me?
Wait... You are rooted and getting reboots? Are you on gb? Did you root or install your rom properly? What kernel?
Stock I had no issues. Non-Gb I've had mostly no issues... Some kernels less reliable than others, of course. But to be honest it sounds more like a user issue than a tb issue
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Are you near a Verizon store? Verizon is usually very easy to convince that you need your phone replaced. (Although I think they will only replace it with the same model. But I'm not sure.) My Thunderbolt never reboots on its own but I know it is a problem that many Thunderbolts are experiencing, so maybe yours (and many others) is/are defective. I'm 99% sure if you go into a Verizon store and tell them that it randomly reboots all the time, they'll replace it for you.
I reverted back to stock and haven't had a single reboot or loss of data on three days. Just sayin'.
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I have read posts where people who are not rooted are getting reboots after they took the update. Have never had an issue with my phone until I took the update. Am going back to stock for a week or so to see if that clears things up.
Funny how VZW is changing their stance on it, almost as if it never has happened. About a month ago I went into a store and they told me that Im not the only one experiencing problems and that there will be a fix within 2 months.
I called VZW tech support and they told me that no one else is having reboots.. . . . I dont get it.
Try flashing your radios, I put both of mine to .6 and the reboots stopped.
(there is a thread in teh development forum, with the packages)
Can you specify what you mean when you say "both"? I have been getting reboots too - approximately 1 per day - but is there a process to flash each radio independently?
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Can you specify what you mean when you say "both"? I have been getting reboots too - approximately 1 per day - but is there a process to flash each radio independently?
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No, but each flash has two radios
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Silvus said:
Try flashing your radios, I put both of mine to .6 and the reboots stopped.
(there is a thread in teh development forum, with the packages)
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Any issues with tethering or gps using the old radios?
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Silvus said:
Try flashing your radios, I put both of mine to .6 and the reboots stopped.
(there is a thread in teh development forum, with the packages)
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I still had reboots with both at .6, currently trying cdma.7/LTE.6.
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It is a hardware issue,that's where the few pricked phone came from,my original bolt had the reboot loop on stock but no one seems to want to hear that,it is a series of phones having the trouble and they are or have replaced most of them,as far as most of the other reboot go that is self made misery by not following directions or not reading to find the fix, this bolt I have now has no reboot issues and it has a mat finish to it,the other one and a few I have seen that had issues had a smooth glossy finish.
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It is a hardware issue,that's where the few pricked phone came from,my original bolt had the reboot loop on stock but no one seems to want to hear that,it is a series of phones having the trouble and they are or have replaced most of them,as far as most of the other reboot go that is self made misery by not following directions or not reading to find the fix, this bolt I have now has no reboot issues and it has a mat finish to it,the other one and a few I have seen that had issues had a smooth glossy finish.
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I would love to think its a hardware issue, but my phone was solid from day one. Then I took the update and get these random reboot.
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It is not a hardware issue. It is a problem with the update and how certain phones installed it. Verizon is in the process of making a new update and has been working on it with HTC for a little while now & expect to have it going out this month. For some reason the software does not talk to the towers properly with some models & the hardware does not get the proper info which causes the reboots. Exactly how to tell which phones are affected, I don't know. My friend is trying to find out for me.
I can say that I ran my phone with rooted stock & moved up to the rooted update when it was available which I am still on and I have not had any issues at all besides the low recorded video audio which the update seems to have fixed for me.
My phone is:
Rooted stock & radios w/update
Adrynelynes 4.47 Kernal
I am telling you what HTC said they admit that a certain series is defective hence the snappy replacement. Just cause one Rom works and another doesn't isn't always the Roms fault,ever had a CPU that would run one OS and not another or RAM that worked fine on xp but not win 7 once the defective hard hits its limit it will fail. I have seen hardware work fine overclocked and the exact same hardware crash with half the settings,or a motherboard run suse fine but put Windows on it and it dies a week later. I didn't say they all were defective just one series of them and when they did the update a lot of the phones started to fail and some didn't,so does that tell you hardware or software,if one can run fine and the other fails its either a bad flash or bad hardware. Take your pick
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I didn't do the update over the air on my other bolt, I downloaded it from HTC and it killed the phone,but the same download is on this phone and it works just fine,not one reboot, and its still stock and not rooted. The other one was dated Dec
10 and this one is dated Feb 11, I would just about guess they tweaked the update to weed out the bad phones faster,makes sense to me.
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satseaker said:
I am telling you what HTC said they admit that a certain series is defective hence the snappy replacement. Just cause one Rom works and another doesn't isn't always the Roms fault,ever had a CPU that would run one OS and not another or RAM that worked fine on xp but not win 7 once the defective hard hits its limit it will fail. I have seen hardware work fine overclocked and the exact same hardware crash with half the settings,or a motherboard run suse fine but put Windows on it and it dies a week later. I didn't say they all were defective just one series of them and when they did the update a lot of the phones started to fail and some didn't,so does that tell you hardware or software,if one can run fine and the other fails its either a bad flash or bad hardware. Take your pick
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I wasn't aware of HTC stating there was some defective hardware. Never saw any references to it. If thats the case then glad they acknowledged it.
It's definitely not a hardware issue. Its a radio/ signal issue. Verizon does know about it, and is working on getting a new update out there. I know this, for a fact.
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jett2314 said:
I have read posts where people who are not rooted are getting reboots after they took the update. Have never had an issue with my phone until I took the update. Am going back to stock for a week or so to see if that clears things up.
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My TBolt is not rooted and before the update I had no problems at all but after the update the random reboots started. Battery life is acceptable but could be allot better.
Called Verizon yesterday and they acknowledge the problem and actually said HTC is aware of the problem and are working on it but have no expected date as to when it will be fixed. I believe it is definitely is a software issue and will be fixed when the official Gingerbread is released. Just my 2 cents.
Has anybody else sent their G2X back because of random restarts and the GPS not working correctly? I haven't had any of the other issues some of you guys are having and my battery life seems pretty good. I can't complain about that.
But I often use the GPS on my phone for work. It was great on my Nexus One and never failed me. I tried to use it on my G2X the other day and it was horrible. It took minutes to load and finally when it seemed like it was going to work, it was real lousy. It wouldn't keep up with where I was driving, so the directions were real sloppy and inaccurate.
As far as the random restarts, that might be normal..? It's a smartphone which is like a mini computer, so I think restarts might be fairly normal. I seen a restart the other day and I seen 2 more today.
My question is do these seem like software issues? If so, i'm willing to wait for an update to fix these things. I like the phone a lot and i'm lucky to have no screen or battery issues. So I don't wanna risk sending it back only to have those issues.
My GPS is rock solid. It is slow to start sometimes but my old phone was the Vibrant and ANYYHING is better than that. Don't have any restart issues. You should do an audit of the apps you have on your phone.
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What exactly do you mean by an audit of my apps? Do you really think any of the other apps are messing with the GPS?
I'm debating doing a format. I'm not sure whether or not it would help anything.
We have the same issue, everything (dialy used apps) works except for the GPS. I can't even see GPS icon even after toggle ON and running GPS toolbox. Though, sometimes if I am lucky, after Rom Manager Fix Permissions and restart it works. But only if am lucky.
Maybe it is a software issue or permissions issue, but I am hoping that this will be fixed with the long awaited update.
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I was speaking of apps in regards to the reboots. My GPS icon doesn't show sometimes also. A quick reboot solves that for me. There's a thread about fixing the GPS. You should try the steps in there.
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Return it. Phone should never reboot. Android runs on Linux which is designed to be up 24/7 365. GPS should lock quickly.
kangxi said:
I was speaking of apps in regards to the reboots. My GPS icon doesn't show sometimes also. A quick reboot solves that for me. There's a thread about fixing the GPS. You should try the steps in there.
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Tried it already mate. But, no success.
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Lol.......
I called about my GPS and reboot problems and they are sending me a replacement g2x. The tech rep did say that he would check about their exchange program eligibility where I can exchange for an equal or better phone under warrranty. He said there were no phones that were of equal value currently released. He told me if I call tomorrow when the sensation comes out that it may be an option. For now I'm going with another g2x but to answer the original question, GPS and revolts is a good enough reason to send it back.
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My GPS locks up almost daily now. The GPS icon doesnt show... I think it's an app issue (gas buddy) that's not compatible... A reboot fixes the gps for about a day.
kangxi said:
I was speaking of apps in regards to the reboots. My GPS icon doesn't show sometimes also. A quick reboot solves that for me. There's a thread about fixing the GPS. You should try the steps in there.
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I have problems with GPS also, it's horrible at times. Tonight it took two reboots before it worked, and even then it was flaky at best. My Nexus One was great prior to 2.3, at which point it was unreliable also, but not like this.
Basically I have to reboot daily or else GPS won't work when I want it. And all I run on it that uses GPS is Maps, My Tracks and when I'm attempting to fix it, GPS Status, which sometimes just comes up as a blank screen. Sometimes it takes two reboots to get GPS to work, which is just odd, but I've seen that twice.
Also, I have witnessed at least 5 spontaneous reboots, and I've had the phone just a few weeks.
Cyberdan3 said:
He said there were no phones that were of equal value currently released.
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The retail for the G2x is $499 and that matches the Samsung Galaxy S 4G. Would've matched the G2, but reports have it as discontinued. The Sensation is 10% more expensive.
He was talking features also. Dual core should match up with another dual core.
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Cyberdan3 said:
He was talking features also. Dual core should match up with another dual core.
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But he said equal "value", not equal "features. The value of the two are not the same.
Ive tried numerous ROMs and kernals and stuff with my phone, yet none of them seem to solve the reboot issue on my g2x except the stock 2.3.3 update a while back... Is there some secret im missing? why would the 2.3.3 update fix it while nothing else works well?
If all else fails i might have to just replace the phone... im tired of stock!
Lakonikos said:
Ive tried numerous ROMs and kernals and stuff with my phone, yet none of them seem to solve the reboot issue on my g2x except the stock 2.3.3 update a while back... Is there some secret im missing? why would the 2.3.3 update fix it while nothing else works well?
If all else fails i might have to just replace the phone... im tired of stock!
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I think that might just affect only certain phones. I've noticed that it affects some and never happens to others. i jsut got my G2x and have yet experienced on reboot. And I've tried Weapon, Cm7 and EG.
mackster248 said:
I think that might just affect only certain phones. I've noticed that it affects some and never happens to others. i jsut got my G2x and have yet experienced on reboot. And I've tried Weapon, Cm7 and EG.
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i hope this isnt the case. not sure how t mobile is on replacing a phone if i claim its faulty- and i would need to unroot and change back to stock recovery and stuff =\ which i guess isnt THAT hard..
Yes but if you have insurance on your sim, card then just say you having difficulty with they should give you another one if not then use the one root method to unroot back.
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Yeah, I have nothing but problems with these ROMs on my G2X. Going back to stock GB today. I was late to work a couple of times because my phone rebooted itself when my alarm was supposed to go off with Weapon, and now Eagles blood I woke up to my phone being completely off, where I couldn't even turn it on without removing the battery first (cuz that makes sense). I couldn't use A2DP on CM 7 either. As far as I'm concerned all custom ROMs are STUPID.
Tweaken said:
Yeah, I have nothing but problems with these ROMs on my G2X. Going back to stock GB today. I was late to work a couple of times because my phone rebooted itself when my alarm was supposed to go off with Weapon, and now Eagles blood I woke up to my phone being completely off, where I couldn't even turn it on without removing the battery first (cuz that makes sense). I couldn't use A2DP on CM 7 either. As far as I'm concerned all custom ROMs are STUPID.
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Agreed 100% somephones should need custom ROMs but phones like these shouldn't be cause its already as strong as it can be lin pack status is awesome and quadrant standard so their no point to root them cause its really fast and good already
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i like the customization of roms like cyanogen, thats the reason i like to rom up my phone
mackster248 said:
I think that might just affect only certain phones. I've noticed that it affects some and never happens to others. i jsut got my G2x and have yet experienced on reboot. And I've tried Weapon, Cm7 and EG.
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So the only option is to get a replacement from Tmobile? Tried rooting my wifes phone and got the same thing. Using CM7 or MIUI, random reboots, dropped calls, and SOD galore. If this is the only fix I guess I'll be calling Tmobile again...
Ive never had the reboot issue to the extreme like some have. It has happened for me a few times with stock gb, did 2 wipes in a row and then it stopped. Not a guaranteed fix, but it worked for me.
once rooted, I removed almost all the bloat that I didnt use (from xboarders stock rooted rom) and never had an issue.
I did notice a while back with the nightlys that when I put my put my screen to sleep while in the sms app, id have to pull the battery. Issue resolved for me with the currenty nightlys.
Regulus49001 said:
So the only option is to get a replacement from Tmobile? Tried rooting my wifes phone and got the same thing. Using CM7 or MIUI, random reboots, dropped calls, and SOD galore. If this is the only fix I guess I'll be calling Tmobile again...
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Are you getting these issues right away or after you install apps? It is usually an errant app causing reboots and SOD and not the rom. Add apps one by one and wait a bit before adding the next one. If you add one and you start getting problems you can be pretty sure that is a problem app and uninstall it. There are many bad apps on the Market that can cause loads of problems. Google doesn't do any testing on them so it is definitely buyer beware, even if the app is free.
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Are you getting these issues right away or after you install apps? It is usually an errant app causing reboots and SOD and not the rom. Add apps one by one and wait a bit before adding the next one. If you add one and you start getting problems you can be pretty sure that is a problem app and uninstall it. There are many bad apps on the Market that can cause loads of problems. Google doesn't do any testing on them so it is definitely buyer beware, even if the app is free.
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but the fact that they dont cause reboots on the stock 2.3.3 rom makes me think it cant be soloely the apps
g2x random reboot fix
I think I have finally found a fix to the SOD and random reboots on the g2x. Obviously the SOD is solved by going to setting>development>stay awake.
I had the same problems with every rom I tried try tsugi no reboots yet after a week I can even use the kernels on his page
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