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Question Re: Radioshack Pre-Orders

There was a rumor going around the Radioshack might be giving the inspires out early - can anyone confirm a case of this? I had called two stores and they both said no, however if someone can confirm a positive on this - I will keep calling!

The stores were given strict instructions not to. Plus many of them have likely not received their stock yet.

mentalcase said:
The stores were given strict instructions not to. Plus many of them have likely not received their stock yet.
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Thanks, this is what I thought. When I reserved mine the guy said that the system won't even allow them to sell them until Sunday... but then again on various message boards there were people saying the Radioshack sales rep that they pre-ordered their phone with said they would call them if they got them early. If the sales reps are unsure of information, they should just not say anything.

acPIZZA said:
If the sales reps are unsure of information, they should just not say anything.
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Keep in mind that a Radio Shack employee isn't much higher on the ladder than a McDonald's employee. So you can't expect much common sense from them. lol

Donatron said:
Keep in mind that a Radio Shack employee isn't much higher on the ladder than a McDonald's employee. So you can't expect much common sense from them. lol
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Well, maybe a little higher than McD's employee... but I haven't been inside McD's in about 12 years.
My Radioshack guy was way to "YEAH BRO, TOttalLy bro! Sick Phone Bro!!" for my taste. I'm not really a personable shopper... I kinda want to get in, take care of business and get out while in a store.

I actually just came from a radioshack after calling the store and she told me I could buy one...I was like are u sure?? She said yeah ..come over...I rushed over there to talk to her, she went back to get it and give it to me and her manager saw her...and said no! What a **** lol...anyways she atleast opened the box and let me play with it for awhile...thing is sexy! Feels so solid..camera is awesome ...and btw everyone *****ing about the battery cover being tough to come off is either a like girl or a retard...got it off in no time...can't wait till Sunday now! Ima pick one up first thing
Oh btw it booted up super fast, and asphalt 5 HD installed
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man I was just in radio shack today and they wouldn't let me pre order - they said they'll only have 4 left after the pre orders so I'd better be there when they open on sunday if I want one.

Went in my local Radio Shack yesterday, and they told me the pre order deadline was on Wednesday. Anyhow, they called me today and have one with my name on it for Sunday morning pick up. I doubt if these people will let one go early.

I also pre-ordered from RS and have been trying to get them to give it to me early, lol. When I pre-ordered on the 8th, guy said they were getting it in on the 10th and I could pick it up then!
So I went back on the 10th and unfortunately there was a different guy working and he refused to give it to me. Bah! I think it depends on the person there, some people seem to be more/less knowledgeable that others.
That being said, just heard Costco has them now and are being sold. I'm going over soon and see if they sell them off-contract. If not, then I'll swing by RS again and see who's working tonight, lol. Worth a try.

Looks like the only chance I have to get this a little early is to drop by RS before closing on Sat night, and hope they're cool enough to let me walk out with it...
I don't know why ATT is making such a big deal about the 13th release date. If a store has in stock, who cares!

Mine opens at 10...guess i'll go try my luck

I tried to get mine today but no luck. I even said that I'm flying for business and won't be able to make it tomorrow, but still.
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I tried with no luck. Radioshack has their sku locked so it won't even ring up. Very disappointing and a waste of a drive. Oh well 1030 tomorrow isn't too far off...

Called my radio shack today and no luck either. Was told they couldnt release them until tomorrow, and that they hadnt even got them in yet, truck was supposed to come later today.

WHERE IS THIS SURVEY ON THE RECEIPT? I can't find it anywhere - I think it might have been cut off? Do you enter your order information on the online survey site? If so, can someone please post the URL to the survey? Would be much appreciated, thanks!

I went in today and bribed the Guy to sell me one and he finally caved and went to ring me up....only to find out the sku wasn't recognized and it was literally impossible to buy guess I will be there bright and early. On a side note I also went in to att to ask about the price off contract as I heard it was 399 at corporate stores only for them to rudely tell me that because there wasn't a price tag yet that they couldn't tell me. Wtf att?? That kind of bull**** is probably why I will still buy at radio shack even if att is cheaper.
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Got mine today from Radio Shack. Got to know the tricks. I was buying outright so that may have been the difference. He rang me up with 481.49 in gift cards. He will use those gift cards to ring the actual phone tomorrow. I waled out with a phone and was happy. I do have to make a return trip to get my real receipt. Radio Shack is supposedly $50 higher than COR stores on an outright purchase. I had a Otterbox Defender IP4 that I was given from there for Christmas. He took that back which netted my price down to about the same as the COR stores. If I did not have the freebie $50 off, I would have just waited to get it at a COR.

laxwillsch said:
I went in today and bribed the Guy to sell me one and he finally caved and went to ring me up....only to find out the sku wasn't recognized and it was literally impossible to buy guess I will be there bright and early.
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Haha, I considered that also, slipping the guy a $20... but if the sku won't even take, then I guess I'll just have to wait until Sunday morning.
BTW, I was looking at my pre-sale receipt and it does not mention the 2/13 release date at all - it only says they'll hold it for 3 days after getting it in stock. I suppose if you wanted to be a giant PITA, you could make a fuss out of it, but whatever... I'll just wait.

One of many request for ICS status to the HTC FB page

I've had previous requests for ICS status for the TBolt and never have had a direct answer. So now, I demanded one
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Nicelying done
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+1 Nice done, I am the one also not going buy any HTC devices in future.

Is it htc or vzw who is to blame? I rather suspect vzw.

recDNA said:
Is it htc or vzw who is to blame? I rather suspect vzw.
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I suspect vzw also. And i wont buy anything other than htc for build quality alone. You can have those flimsy other phones with easy dev and updates, but htc makes great phones. I was sold when my dinc got submerged in water yet continued to work great for a year.
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recDNA said:
Is it htc or vzw who is to blame? I rather suspect vzw.
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Well, from the looks of that post... They are saying that they are trying to get more information regarding the progress of the update from the "inside". Which, to me, that implies their development team. I could be wrong, but it's speculation. No word back after that last post I made...
P.S.
I just noticed that the message was cut off from HTC. Here is the full reply they made regarding my comment.
We fully understand that this situation is less than ideal. We are waiting on a status update internally and as soon as we hear more from them we will pass it along here. We're just as eager to learn more as you. We apologize and we can assure you that we're doing as much as we can to get you the answers that everyone here is asking for.
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How bout just giving us a good kernal and let the devs on this site take it from there!

What would lead you to believe the flunky who posts on facebook for htc knows anything or.even anyone to ask? He is told what to say and he says it. Asking him a question tells you no more.than asking a vzw store salesman anything. We probably know more about.it.than either of those "company reps "

recDNA said:
What would lead you to believe the flunky who posts on facebook for htc knows anything or.even anyone to ask? He is told what to say and he says it.
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I love the part about "you work at HTC" so go ask.... How many people work at HTC ? Haha !!! Someone has no clue about big companies.

I know other see it differently but the way I see it... that is a very corporate way of saying "go f*** yourself". I think they're just hoping we will forget so they don't have to push an update. Sadly enough the Photon 4G the first 4G Tegra phone for Sprint got that very sad news recently. I just don't think that HTC will balls up and tell us. /negativity
I'm feeling a Facebook protest page for this lack of service.

Shadow Death said:
I know other see it differently but the way I see it... that is a very corporate way of saying "go f*** yourself". I think they're just hoping we will forget so they don't have to push an update. Sadly enough the Photon 4G the first 4G Tegra phone for Sprint got that very sad news recently. I just don't think that HTC will balls up and tell us. /negativity
I'm feeling a Facebook protest page for this lack of service.
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I'm starting to believe you're right after Motorola did this to Atrix owners a few days ago. I know it's a stupid dream, but I like to imagine that, in the future, some company will introduce a phone that runs AOSP and has chips with open-source drivers. What a cool gadget that would be.

Someone should start an online petition and make HTC / VZW put the update out !

Make them? LMFAO! Good luck on making either company do anything.
Both are huge companies that are supporting several devices, with prime focus going to development for new tech. Think about it, the TB is an old cell, we were lucky to see the leak. How much money will HTC make by putting ICS on TB? Nothing.
IMO, we got one update and a leak for a 2nd... we should only hope for an update, if it comes.. cool. If not, either wait for a dev or move on.
Sometimes the sense of entitlement from some posters in this forum is mind blowing.
Make them... I'm still laughing about that.

rabnud said:
Sometimes the sense of entitlement from some posters in this forum is mind blowing.
Make them... I'm still laughing about that.
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And I'm laughing at people who can't detect sarcasm when it smacks them in the face... :good:

Ditto.
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There seems to be a lot of tension here, and people do need to understand that this is an old phone. We were the first to get 4g LTE, and we had to be the guinea pigs for the network so with some awkward hardware and a non-standard RIL. HTC still made an excellent piece of hardware that I carry without a case or even a screen protector, and I will admit, I've dropped it and it has no scratches and no chips in it. I'd buy a new HTC phone on Verizon if it wasn't for Verizon's new policies. Heck, I'd be open to buying a phone off contract so I get out at any time, but I'm not going to do it because I have to, and as a reasonable data consumer who does have unlimited I feel no reason to pay the same(actually, more in my case) for less. I use ~4gb per month on my own, which is certainly acceptable and is in no way excessive, and shared data will raise my bill. As soon as my contract runs out(or I finally get PO'd at verizon and pay the ETF) I'm switching to Sprint and I'll be purchasing the HTC Evo 4G LTE.
I am certain that Verizon wants people to get off unlimited, so they will deny any updates for the Thunderbolt, because the earliest buyers are conveniently eligible for early upgrades now. I know of somebody who went into the store to buy a new battery and they tried to sell him a new phone because his was supposedly still running GB(which is false, he had Liquid ICS installed, LOL) and it is an older version of Android.

hallstevenson said:
I love the part about "you work at HTC" so go ask.... How many people work at HTC ? Haha !!! Someone has no clue about big companies.
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I'm guessing your part of the 1% who sit around waiting to contribute lol post.

mvh11 said:
There seems to be a lot of tension here, and people do need to understand that this is an old phone. We were the first to get 4g LTE, and we had to be the guinea pigs for the network so with some awkward hardware and a non-standard RIL. HTC still made an excellent piece of hardware that I carry without a case or even a screen protector, and I will admit, I've dropped it and it has no scratches and no chips in it. I'd buy a new HTC phone on Verizon if it wasn't for Verizon's new policies. Heck, I'd be open to buying a phone off contract so I get out at any time, but I'm not going to do it because I have to, and as a reasonable data consumer who does have unlimited I feel no reason to pay the same(actually, more in my case) for less. I use ~4gb per month on my own, which is certainly acceptable and is in no way excessive, and shared data will raise my bill. As soon as my contract runs out(or I finally get PO'd at verizon and pay the ETF) I'm switching to Sprint and I'll be purchasing the HTC Evo 4G LTE.
I am certain that Verizon wants people to get off unlimited, so they will deny any updates for the Thunderbolt, because the earliest buyers are conveniently eligible for early upgrades now. I know of somebody who went into the store to buy a new battery and they tried to sell him a new phone because his was supposedly still running GB(which is false, he had Liquid ICS installed, LOL) and it is an older version of Android.
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That makes sense. As far as the new policies go, they are dropping the unlimited data plan for anyone who upgrades to a phone? I know someone who upgraded about a year ago, as well as switched over his phone to someone elses family plan and retained his unlimited data

Plus you have to pay the phone upgrade charge now!

Help me get a SIV!

Hey guys and gals! I'm itching for the new S4. I just opened a new 2 year contract back in December and I'm growing tired of my boring iPhone 4S.
Which also has warranty until December off this year.
I'm looking for a creative idea to help me pick up this wonderful phone. I thought about taking my mint iPhone into bestbuy for the "buy back" plan that they offer and possible add a line to my current plan but I don't want to lose my current phone number.
Do you guys have any ideas that could help me out?
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Also my birthday is this Saturday so it would make for a great present to myself! Haha thanks

EBay or Craigslist is your best bet. You can probably get $350ish for your 4S.
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bdpyo said:
Hey guys and gals! I'm itching for the new S4. I just opened a new 2 year contract back in December and I'm growing tired of my boring iPhone 4S.
Which also has warranty until December off this year.
I'm looking for a creative idea to help me pick up this wonderful phone. I thought about taking my mint iPhone into bestbuy for the "buy back" plan that they offer and possible add a line to my current plan but I don't want to lose my current phone number.
Do you guys have any ideas that could help me out?
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You could try swappa.com, which is partnered with XDA and a link is conveniently located at the top of this page :good:

Ebay is my "go to" when I want to flip one phone for another. I believe there is also a XDA "marketplace" somewhere on the forum, but I do not have enough posts to try it out or tell you how good it is.

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Ebay is my "go to" when I want to flip one phone for another. I believe there is also a XDA "marketplace" somewhere on the forum, but I do not have enough posts to try it out or tell you how good it is.
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The market place section of XDA was shut down several months ago because of the problems associated with users ripping off other users.
As mentioned above XDA has partnered with Swappa which is a wonderful site started by android enthusiasts for the community.
Swappa is nice to do business on because of the system of fail checks that are in place.
There is also craigslist and eBay. With craigslist I know a lot of people that sell their devices locally for more money than it would bring online, but it really depends on the market in your area.
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mr_blanket said:
Ebay is my "go to" when I want to flip one phone for another. I believe there is also a XDA "marketplace" somewhere on the forum, but I do not have enough posts to try it out or tell you how good it is.
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Xda marketplace is no more, it's swappa, cell trader online or another message board. EBay scams you out of about 15% off your earnings as listing fees, and PayPal will remove 3%
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i would def recommend swappa because the buyer pays listing fee and you only have to pay paypal fees. which ebay you have to pay thier 15% fee and paypal fees and shipping too which i forgot to add that to swappa. then cancel your contract and resign up with the gs4

Thanks for the replies. I just left an AT&T store and the guy basically told me he would set me up a new line and strip it down to a 10$ dumb phone plan and throw the s4 on my current line.
He was gonna take my 4s in trade which would have covered my cost for the new phone and since I'm a union member my activation fee would have been waived.
I was smiling till he told me that my brother has to be there because only he can add a line cause its his accounts. I'm authorized for everything but that! Lol

bdpyo said:
Thanks for the replies. I just left an AT&T store and the guy basically told me he would set me up a new line and strip it down to a 10$ dumb phone plan and throw the s4 on my current line.
He was gonna take my 4s in trade which would have covered my cost for the new phone and since I'm a union member my activation fee would have been waived.
I was smiling till he told me that my brother has to be there because only he can add a line cause its his accounts. I'm authorized for everything but that! Lol
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I know using the 4s as a trade is convenient but if you have the case pay the $199 for the S4 and sell the 4s, that phone is still selling for $350ish at a minimum in good shape. Just a shame to see money down the drain that doesn't have to be. I sold my Unlocked 4s about 2 months ago with a few otterboxes for about 450ish

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I know using the 4s as a trade is convenient but if you have the case pay the $199 for the S4 and sell the 4s, that phone is still selling for $350ish at a minimum in good shape. Just a shame to see money down the drain that doesn't have to be. I sold my Unlocked 4s about 2 months ago with a few otterboxes for about 450ish
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I may go that route actually, and use my sgs2 till I can sell it. I have a small hardware glitch with my current iPhone that I plan on taking in for a warranty exchange. Adding a line sucks because my brother lives roughly 2 hours away so not sure how to work the details out ya know..

bdpyo said:
I may go that route actually, and use my sgs2 till I can sell it. I have a small hardware glitch with my current iPhone that I plan on taking in for a warranty exchange. Adding a line sucks because my brother lives roughly 2 hours away so not sure how to work the details out ya know..
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Thats the easy part, just have him go get it and ship it to you. Shouldn't be more than $6 priority. If he uses a normal bank im sure you have a branch close to you and you can deposit the cash to his bank account to pay for the phone for you.

Bump for any other creative ideas. =D

bdpyo said:
I may go that route actually, and use my sgs2 till I can sell it. I have a small hardware glitch with my current iPhone that I plan on taking in for a warranty exchange. Adding a line sucks because my brother lives roughly 2 hours away so not sure how to work the details out ya know..
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My att store was able to call the account holder to add a line. He was not there with me.

Ask AT&T for an early upgrade. I believe it would be $450 for the Galaxy s4, and just sell your iPhone and pay the difference. Your brother could do the upgrade in store and have them ship you the phone for free. I did that for my dad with an iPhone 3GS before.

bdpyo said:
Hey guys and gals! I'm itching for the new S4. I just opened a new 2 year contract back in December and I'm growing tired of my boring iPhone 4S.
Which also has warranty until December off this year.
I'm looking for a creative idea to help me pick up this wonderful phone. I thought about taking my mint iPhone into bestbuy for the "buy back" plan that they offer and possible add a line to my current plan but I don't want to lose my current phone number.
Do you guys have any ideas that could help me out?
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Sell your old phone on eBay and pay up the difference? What else are you expecting to hear? *sigh*
However, in the spirit of this thread, and moreover, the spirit of recent posts/arguments/members here on XDA, I'm posting my own question for everyone! Please DO take the time to respond. I appreciate your feedback.
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Hi guys! I know this is a forum about phone development, but even though I know that, I'm going to post this anyway!
I really really want a Boeing Business Jet.
Back in December I bought a 1993 Toyota Corolla, Neon Pink, w/ 223,000 miles. It's also missing a wheel. And a door. But I manage. Only cost me $200.
What can I do to trade my Toyota for a Boeing Business Jet? I'm not against prostitution, blackmail, extortion, or murder. Anyone know where to start? I tried posting some "hitman" ads on a few darknets, but they all want to pay me with these silly "Bitcoin" things... and Boeing insists I pay for my new plane in cash, not digital coins.
Any ideas?! Please help. I'm really bored of my Toyota, and I really want a private jet.
And of all the millions of websites on the internet, I feel like this is the single most appropriate place to ask my question. Again, I know I'm sounding pretty whiny and entitled, but this is XDA developers, so I figured that's the normal.
Thanks! And again, I really appreciate any feedback!
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(Oh, and if it weren't against the rules (which some of us actually do follow) right here is where I'd post a random picture of a penis.)
Thanks OP for another quality thread!
Cheers!

Why Upgrade to an 4S in decemeber? That was horrible..
I upgraded to the Note 2 in December, I have a S4 coming tommrow Early Upgrade cause Ive been through 5 notes with the same issue.

Shammyh said:
Sell your old phone on eBay and pay up the difference? What else are you expecting to hear? *sigh*
However, in the spirit of this thread, and moreover, the spirit of recent posts/arguments/members here on XDA, I'm posting my own question for everyone! Please DO take the time to respond. I appreciate your feedback.
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Hi guys! I know this is a forum about phone development, but even though I know that, I'm going to post this anyway!
I really really want a Boeing Business Jet.
Back in December I bought a 1993 Toyota Corolla, Neon Pink, w/ 223,000 miles. It's also missing a wheel. And a door. But I manage. Only cost me $200.
What can I do to trade my Toyota for a Boeing Business Jet? I'm not against prostitution, blackmail, extortion, or murder. Anyone know where to start? I tried posting some "hitman" ads on a few darknets, but they all want to pay me with these silly "Bitcoin" things... and Boeing insists I pay for my new plane in cash, not digital coins.
Any ideas?! Please help. I'm really bored of my Toyota, and I really want a private jet.
And of all the millions of websites on the internet, I feel like this is the single most appropriate place to ask my question. Again, I know I'm sounding pretty whiny and entitled, but this is XDA developers, so I figured that's the normal.
Thanks! And again, I really appreciate any feedback!
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(Oh, and if it weren't against the rules (which some of us actually do follow) right here is where I'd post a random picture of a penis.)
Thanks OP for another quality thread!
Cheers!
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Best post on XDA. Ever.

Shammyh said:
Sell your old phone on eBay and pay up the difference? What else are you expecting to hear? *sigh*
However, in the spirit of this thread, and moreover, the spirit of recent posts/arguments/members here on XDA, I'm posting my own question for everyone! Please DO take the time to respond. I appreciate your feedback.
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Hi guys! I know this is a forum about phone development, but even though I know that, I'm going to post this anyway!
I really really want a Boeing Business Jet.
Back in December I bought a 1993 Toyota Corolla, Neon Pink, w/ 223,000 miles. It's also missing a wheel. And a door. But I manage. Only cost me $200.
What can I do to trade my Toyota for a Boeing Business Jet? I'm not against prostitution, blackmail, extortion, or murder. Anyone know where to start? I tried posting some "hitman" ads on a few darknets, but they all want to pay me with these silly "Bitcoin" things... and Boeing insists I pay for my new plane in cash, not digital coins.
Any ideas?! Please help. I'm really bored of my Toyota, and I really want a private jet.
And of all the millions of websites on the internet, I feel like this is the single most appropriate place to ask my question. Again, I know I'm sounding pretty whiny and entitled, but this is XDA developers, so I figured that's the normal.
Thanks! And again, I really appreciate any feedback!
~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~
(Oh, and if it weren't against the rules (which some of us actually do follow) right here is where I'd post a random picture of a penis.)
Thanks OP for another quality thread!
Cheers!
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I'm extremely glad you feel that way about my post. Don't like it? Hit the back button and troll elsewhere. I felt it may have been fitting to post where I did based solely on the fact that maybe another member may have just been through the same situation and could provide some valuable information.
Thanks for wasting 20 minutes of your life coming up with that uninformative and useless post. Good luck with the jet.

[Q] Anyone familiar with "Project Abacus"

I received a survey on the Surveys On The Go that qualified me to take part in something called "Project Abacus". It came with a lengthy EULA from Google and the promise of a Nexus 5 that I could keep after 6 months of participating in a study. The study involves 6 months of use as your primary phone and allowing it to collect usage information to track how you use it using an app that is in the play store but also comes pre-loaded on the phone. I can't seem to find out much more than that though (other than this thread on the Google forums). Didn't know if anyone here has heard of this or participated in it. They are not asking for any credit card info or anything more private than your phone number (they called to verify my address) and email account (they are sending a tracking number). So I don't think I'm risking anything. But I'm just pretty skeptical about something that seems too good to be true. Getting to participate in a Google research study seems kinda like winning the lottery. So the bottom line question is this.....is this legit?

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All the info I found was the app.
This seems pretty sketchy!
Was it an email from google?
Who was the sender?
That's crazy. I'm curious as well!

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Was it an email from google?
Who was the sender?
That's crazy. I'm curious as well!
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I haven't received an email from them yet. I found it interesting that that app in the app store doesn't have a web URL associated with it. Makes me wonder if they got some exception because I *thought* that was a requirement. All the communication so far was all handled through the Surveys On The Go app. Based on the reviews both there an the comments at the link I referenced in the OP, folks have received confirmation calls about this for a week or so now, promising phones in the next 2-4 weeks. I'll be sure to post back here if I get a tracking number or a real phone.
One of the things that makes me think that this is legit is that the agreement that you had to go through was VERY long and detailed. It said that you have to set up a new/separate Google account for the test. This new Google Drive location is where all the information collected on your use (including occasional photos of you using the phone) will be posted for your review. You can delete anything you are not comfortable sharing. They then access this data. And, according to this agreement, if we decide to opt out we can request that GOOGLE delete all the data that was submitted during the survey. I took a screenshot that that part of the agreement and have asked the app developers to send me a digital copy of the full agreement.

I'm doing the same study, and had the same worries that you did. lol I found this thread though a bit of googling...
I loved my Nexus 4, and I'm really really hoping that this is legit. Can't wait to see what happens honestly.

GaltsHarlot said:
I'm doing the same study, and had the same worries that you did. lol I found this thread though a bit of googling...
I loved my Nexus 4, and I'm really really hoping that this is legit. Can't wait to see what happens honestly.
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I was on ATT when I filled out the questionnaire. Just jumped to T-Mobile though. Hope that isn't an issue. If it is, I'll still have my OnePlus One that should be delivered today.

djeaton said:
I was on ATT when I filled out the questionnaire. Just jumped to T-Mobile though. Hope that isn't an issue. If it is, I'll still have my OnePlus One that should be delivered today.
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I'm on T-Mobile and I got accepted as well. I'm still waiting for the call though. Also wondering if this is legit.

I've just completed the survey on SOTG as well. I hope I'll be allowed to root the device. It will suck to have to use it without root. If anything, I wonder if I can get a Straight Talk number and use that instead of my regular carrier's SIM card.

Gaúcho comedor said:
I've just completed the survey on SOTG as well. I hope I'll be allowed to root the device. It will suck to have to use it without root. If anything, I wonder if I can get a Straight Talk number and use that instead of my regular carrier's SIM card.
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I didn't ask about rooting. If they call for confirmation, ask them and let us know!

djeaton said:
I didn't ask about rooting. If they call for confirmation, ask them and let us know!
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From what i read. your not allowed to change anything about hardware. i think rooting would change that...although im not exactly sure

follow the bread crumbs -
who is this ATAP_AUTH?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.atap.projectabacus&hl=en
what other projects are owned to this name? -
http://www.appszoom.com/android_developer/atapauth_mnijq.html#
on the same link, click on **Appszoom
for Developers**-
will lead you to -
"This is a dummy application for testing purposes only."
& what of the *sole reviewer of the app*?
the only guy vouching for it..
http://www.rsaconference.com/speakers/ingo-deutschmann
**Business Development Director DACH, BehavioSec**
**DARPA Active Authentication Program: Behavioral Biometrics**
**RSA CONFERENCE - where the world talks security**
social engineering test?
if so, got yaaaaa, if installed..
~shrugz shoulders~
~EDIT~
or just maybe, google's using it, to *smarten* android -
http://www.behaviosec.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/behaviosec-web-shop-deployment.pdf
http://www.behaviosec.com/products/
&
BehavioMobile
makes sense, they codenamed the project **abacus**
& what behaviousec DO it security -
http://www.crunchbase.com/organization/behaviosec
................
http://www.appszoom.com/android_applications/business/behavio-form_bysyx.html
then later..
Google Acquires Startup Behavio - Analyst Blog

ATAP is a group at Google (Advanced Technologies and Products, the group behind Project Tango) but I don't think that app is coming from them. The support e-mail for the app is "@gmail.com," not "@google.com."

Considering the timing of this research project, I'm curious if they are going to be sending out Nexus 5's as the said or actually sending out new Nexus 6's. It would be a huge coincidence if they were sending out phones for this Project Abacus at the same time as they were releasing the new model. The 6 is supposed to be available for pre-order Thursday to arrive next month - right at the same time they are saying that they will be sending us these phones. I would think that with the 5 on it's way out and the 6 replacing it, they wouldn't be spending a lot on studying how folks use it.

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Considering the timing of this research project, I'm curious if they are going to be sending out Nexus 5's as the said or actually sending out new Nexus 6's. It would be a huge coincidence if they were sending out phones for this Project Abacus at the same time as they were releasing the new model. The 6 is supposed to be available for pre-order Thursday to arrive next month - right at the same time they are saying that they will be sending us these phones. I would think that with the 5 on it's way out and the 6 replacing it, they wouldn't be spending a lot on studying how folks use it.
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watch this -
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/nexus/ZBErNmz2Pvg/JxQlkfFX_y0J
took it out of the.. sandb0x..

j'vai said:
watch this -
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/nexus/ZBErNmz2Pvg/JxQlkfFX_y0J
took it out of the.. sandb0x..
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That is what I linked to in the OP.

djeaton said:
That is what I linked to in the OP.
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I know..

My friend just told me he got a nexus 6 from this, i don't have proof nor have i seen it yet but this sounds interesting. I just downloaded the survey app, how long did it take you all to get the Google Abacus survey?

synergeticink said:
My friend just told me he got a nexus 6 from this, i don't have proof nor have i seen it yet but this sounds interesting. I just downloaded the survey app, how long did it take you all to get the Google Abacus survey?
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I would *love* confirmation that it was the 6. That would be *incredible*!
For me, I had taken these in this order before I got the Abacus invite:
Demographics Main
Demographics Household
Demographics Internet
Demographics Entertainment
Demographics Interests
Movie Survey
Demographics Politics
** PHONE STUDY **

djeaton said:
I would *love* confirmation that it was the 6. That would be *incredible*!
For me, I had taken these in this order before I got the Abacus invite:
Demographics Main
Demographics Household
Demographics Internet
Demographics Entertainment
Demographics Interests
Movie Survey
Demographics Politics
** PHONE STUDY **
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I agree, I asked him to provide pics if he can when he comes home from his business trip. Apparently his wife told him last night that it came him, so thats his confirmation. If he provides proof to me I will post them, I am very curious myself.

I got the phone..
Looks all good. Seems legit guys!

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I have received the same survey for the invite, servey for acceptance, and survey for confirmination. I then got a phone call today saying they can not accept PO boxes, it needs to be a residential address. I was then going to put down my father's work address, but then he said to just call back when I get that address. I would never give out my actual home address to someone I can't completely trust. Then I got a phone call about an hour later and was told that a PO Box would work and they apologized for the confusion. Then he asked for my carrier that I would put the Sim card in. I said at&t, which is the truth, and was told the phone would ship soon and would arrive in 2 to 3 weeks from today. I sure do hope it is real, but I guess I'll have to wait and see.
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Nice! Keep us posted when you get it (if)

T-Mobile V20 back order

I called a few stores last Thursday and there was none in stock. I called to place an order over the phone, and was originally given a ship date of Nov 3 - 8. I never got the electronic signature email from them at the time I purchased on Thursday, to complete the transaction so after calling them back yesterday they resent the email and I signed it. Well that never went through and I had to call them again today. They resent the email, I verified the e signature again, and received a text to confirm it worked this time. I'm still getting informed of a shipping date between 3-8, but when I talked to a rep again this evening he told me it won't ship until at least the 10th and that's been moved up 5 days cause it used to be the 15th. So, I don't know when to expect this phone, but he said since the demise of the note 7, the v20 is in extreme demand, and LG can't keep up with shipping devices.
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ordered mine online Saturday and it's out for delivery today. can't wait to get my paws on it

I had to return mine because it was defecrive, i reordered with a supervisor on the phone on november 1 and my order backordered to December 13th up to january 3rd of next year. Even though the supervisor told me that i would have the phone by the end of this month. Now im screwed without a phone. I will have to ask my mother for the lg g3 i gave her once again since im receiving very important emails at hours im not in the house. Tmobile used to have a rating of 5 stars from me. Now it gets a 2 stars.

jinkerz9430 said:
I had to return mine because it was defecrive, i reordered with a supervisor on the phone on november 1 and my order backordered to December 13th up to january 3rd of next year. Even though the supervisor told me that i would have the phone by the end of this month. Now im screwed without a phone. I will have to ask my mother for the lg g3 i gave her once again since im receiving very important emails at hours im not in the house. Tmobile used to have a rating of 5 stars from me. Now it gets a 2 stars.
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man, that really sucks.... hopefully they can move up the date for you.

cmart4 said:
man, that really sucks.... hopefully they can move up the date for you.
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I have tried every single method but they still say the same stuff... as if they were robots. sometimes i believe im talking with a robot instead of a person . Im telling you, i would never recommend anyone to join the Tmobile family, maybe to grab the phone only since they usually have unlocked bootloader, but that's it! Customer service is the worst. One tells me one thing, the other tells me other thing, another lies to me making me send the phone and making me believe that i would receive a new phone when i was never going to get that replacement, and another one told me it would arrive this month. And it keeps going on and on and on . I have a long list of things they told me and never did.

Just get one from swappa.com
The back order is real...tmo told me January at the earliest

Amd4life said:
Just get one from swappa.com
The back order is real...tmo told me January at the earliest
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Worries not! I have my G3 back because my mother is going to be out for a couple of weeks so.... BUT REALLY! LG AN TMOBILE MUST BE STUPID! THEY SHOULD HAVE PREDICTED THIS WOULD HAPPEN AFTER WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE NOTE 7.... Or,.... are they stupid? seems like it. I mean, it doesn take a lot of brain to figure out that when one flagship goes down people are desperate to try a new device that will possibly replace it. I bet they have already lost many customers just because of the backorders. If it werent because i have already tried the LG V20 for a couple of days, i would have cancel my order the minute i found out about the backorder been so far away.

jinkerz9430 said:
Worries not! I have my G3 back because my mother is going to be out for a couple of weeks so.... BUT REALLY! LG AN TMOBILE MUST BE STUPID! THEY SHOULD HAVE PREDICTED THIS WOULD HAPPEN AFTER WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE NOTE 7.... Or,.... are they stupid? seems like it. I mean, it doesnt a lot of brain to figure out that when one flagship goes down people are desperate to try a new device that will possibly replace it. I bet they have already lost many customers just because of the backorders. If it werent because i have already tried the LG V20 for a couple of days, i would have cancel my order the minute i found out about the backorder been so far away.
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First world problems dude. LG is small in terms of mobile phones. I am pretty sure they expected more demand because the notr7 grenades but damn dude. Think about the logistics of it. Production capacity. Samsung and apple I am quite sure get the red carpet and get to jump queues often. Getting extra production capacity can be problematic sometimes. Not like it can be expedited. And think about what time of year it is. The OEM's with hot phones are probably ramping up capacity for the holiday season. LG probably is too but doesnt have clout to work with. Hell for all we know theyve already doubled output but can't keep up with demand still. Lots more go into complicated devices like these. Many parts to source. Many parts to source that other OEM's use also. Another kink in the supply chain. You're just being a simple minded impatient temper tantrum child. If it bothers you that bad get a phone that is I'm stock everywhere. Some stores get more supply than others because they can't keep them on the shelves. Others don't want to take risk of stock taking up valuable storage space that could be used for other phones. Just sounds like you need to be bent over the knee or taken out to the woodshed and get a reality check. Lots of variables at play here behind anybody in the supply chain from the parts needed for the v20, assembly line, possibly qualified employees to assemble, shipping lanes and stores gambling on stock to stock. Not to mention accounting for defective phones or returns. Take a chill pill or go cry on your pillow. Geez.

@rbiter said:
First world problems dude. LG is small in terms of mobile phones. I am pretty sure they expected more demand because the notr7 grenades but damn dude. Think about the logistics of it. Production capacity. Samsung and apple I am quite sure get the red carpet and get to jump queues often. Getting extra production capacity can be problematic sometimes. Not like it can be expedited. And think about what time of year it is. The OEM's with hot phones are probably ramping up capacity for the holiday season. LG probably is too but doesnt have clout to work with. Hell for all we know theyve already doubled output but can't keep up with demand still. Lots more go into complicated devices like these. Many parts to source. Many parts to source that other OEM's use also. Another kink in the supply chain. You're just being a simple minded impatient temper tantrum child. If it bothers you that bad get a phone that is I'm stock everywhere. Some stores get more supply than others because they can't keep them on the shelves. Others don't want to take risk of stock taking up valuable storage space that could be used for other phones. Just sounds like you need to be bent over the knee or taken out to the woodshed and get a reality check. Lots of variables at play here behind anybody in the supply chain from the parts needed for the v20, assembly line, possibly qualified employees to assemble, shipping lanes and stores gambling on stock to stock. Not to mention accounting for defective phones or returns. Take a chill pill or go cry on your pillow. Geez.
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Aah i see, making me the bad guy, aren't you? Nice try. if i were one of those normal "simple minded impatient temper tantrum child" that you are talking about, that is. You don't even know 1) for how long have i been dealing with this issue, 2) the troubles it caused me (even my TMobile account had a mess for this), 3) the amount of incompetent and also liars agents that are found in both brands Tmobile and LG, and i had to talk which each one of them, 4)The trick they almost make me fall into if i hadn't been so careful and been so persistent (such as making me pay for a phone i didn't have anymore, and is not only limited to that), 5) 3 important information relevant to this semester on my college that i missed out thanks to T-Mobile (since i sent them the phone and was expecting for the word of the supervisor to become true). Dude, i can keep on and on and on, and can say that im none of the things you said about me because with everything they did to me, my account, even with only the lies they wrote to me and also told me through the phone, i would have already sued them and surely i would have won the case. Since i saved every conversation and i would have only have to ask to T-Mobile to release the recorded conversations i had with them (which are a lot!, but it wasn't because i was impatient, im a very patient person, but because they had their own mess inside the system and had me on the center of that mess making me the fool of the play). If i hadn't called and chat so much i would have had to pay more than what the phone actually cost. So yeah, at this point anyone would have already become so mad that they would have probably broken their TVs i have seen people do more for even fewer things. So, do me a favor and stop assuming because you are nowhere near Sherlock Holmes' level.
(on the other hand, i don't wish that everything that happened to me already, happens to you )

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it looks like I'll have it by the end of the week
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I have tried every single method but they still say the same stuff... as if they were robots. sometimes i believe im talking with a robot instead of a person . Im telling you, i would never recommend anyone to join the Tmobile family, maybe to grab the phone only since they usually have unlocked bootloader, but that's it! Customer service is the worst. One tells me one thing, the other tells me other thing, another lies to me making me send the phone and making me believe that i would receive a new phone when i was never going to get that replacement, and another one told me it would arrive this month. And it keeps going on and on and on . I have a long list of things they told me and never did.
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Have you tried TForce on Facebook? They got my issues with my lost Note 5 return sorted out quickly (after dealing with phone support for a couple of weeks).

Unheard said:
Have you tried TForce on Facebook? They got my issues with my lost Note 5 return sorted out quickly (after dealing with phone support for a couple of weeks).
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Thank you for letting me know . I will give it a shot later today. :good::good:

Supply and demand, if LG made a crap load of phones in thinking that the note 7 users would get the v20 and then it didn't happen well then they made a lot of phones that might not sell without dropping the price.
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Ordered mine on the 5th and the original delivery said not until mid December, but got the email last night it will be here on Monday!
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I will check local corp store Friday.

cmart4 said:
ordered mine online Saturday and it's out for delivery today. can't wait to get my paws on it
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same here

Unheard said:
Have you tried TForce on Facebook? They got my issues with my lost Note 5 return sorted out quickly (after dealing with phone support for a couple of weeks).
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I contacted them through FB.... They are even worst in there . now they say that they process and ship the orders in the same order they receive the request. Then HOW THE HECK there are people who bought it even a week later or more than me and they already have their phone with them or on its way, or even the estimated time showing a closer date when mine shows decemeber 13 until january 3?! Really? and then they claimed that it is even more, on their end the website shows to them that it is on december 19, so.... even more far away. It doesnt matter what people think about me after i say the following thing because i have already proven this over and over and over again. TMOBILE IS BUILT UP IN LIES! And only i know what i have been through the past 3 weeks and a half.

Perhaps you're an ass and they keep delaying your order on purpose?

Same thing happened to me. Preordered on Oct 18th and my estimated ship date was 11/25 - 12/16. The store I preordered from actually had then in stock so I cancelled my order and just bought it there. Somehow my $200 trade in credit I submitted was approved.