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Hi guys,
I had an idea for an app yesterday... I haven't had time to do a search, so maybe it already exists. If it does, please let me know.
The concept of this app is to have location-aware wifi. The app would connect to GPS at preconfigured intervals to check the location. If the location matches a preconfigured place (like home, work, starbucks, whatever), the app would turn on wifi and turn off the data connection.
During WiFi operation the GPS checks should cease. When you get out of wifi range and your cellphone shuts off wifi automatically (is already possible in WinMo), the scheduled GPS checks should resume.
The GPS checks need to happen on schedule similar to the schedule found in ActiveSync, also with peak times. So if you're at home at night the app knows it's not necessary to check location during that time.
The app could also have a function to store a new location as wifi-enabled place. So if you are visting an office or a new restaurant that has wifi, you could add it with just a few clicks.
What do you guys think? Any devs? Is that doable? Already done?
Regards,
Lukas
+1 This sound s very interesting and would make WiFi use much easier
Thanks for this idea, hopefully someone can develop it
Regards,
Central
Thnx, I hope a dev will share your opinion...
Lukasss said:
Hi guys,
I had an idea for an app yesterday... I haven't had time to do a search, so maybe it already exists. If it does, please let me know.
The concept of this app is to have location-aware wifi. The app would connect to GPS at preconfigured intervals to check the location. If the location matches a preconfigured place (like home, work, starbucks, whatever), the app would turn on wifi and turn off the data connection.
During WiFi operation the GPS checks should cease. When you get out of wifi range and your cellphone shuts off wifi automatically (is already possible in WinMo), the scheduled GPS checks should resume.
The GPS checks need to happen on schedule similar to the schedule found in ActiveSync, also with peak times. So if you're at home at night the app knows it's not necessary to check location during that time.
The app could also have a function to store a new location as wifi-enabled place. So if you are visting an office or a new restaurant that has wifi, you could add it with just a few clicks.
What do you guys think? Any devs? Is that doable? Already done?
Regards,
Lukas
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There are apps that are 'cell' aware, so it know where you are, based on the information of the your providers cell tower. So when you are at home, you can use that cell id to identify you are in your home region. So you don't even have to have GPS enabled (and assuming your phone is allways on).
One of the toos I have some experience in is Ageye.de 's G-Profile. With this tool you can also disable Wifi during time intervals (like over night).
Its commercial wiht trail version. Check it out.
Edit: Just found another tool using Cell ID, it's called Wifilocations and it's free.
Btw. I'm very interested in how WinMo disables Wifi automatically when you are out of your Wifi's range, as you describe above.
I'm very interested in how WinMo disables Wifi automatically when you are out of your Wifi's range, as you describe above.
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That's simple:
Start -> Settings -> Menu (right softkey) -> All Settings -> Connections -> WiFi -> Wireless Networks -> Menu (right softkey) -> Advanced
"Turn Off Wifi if not connected in x minutes"
I can't take screenshots at this time. You just need to open Wifi in Connections in windows mobile settings menu.
Let me know if you can't find it.
Grtz
Lukas
webpatrick said:
One of the toos I have some experience in is Ageye.de 's G-Profile. With this tool you can also disable Wifi during time intervals (like over night).
Its commercial wiht trail version. Check it out.
Edit: Just found another tool using Cell ID, it's called Wifilocations and it's free.
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Thnx for that btw. I'll check it out tonight at home.
Grtz
Lukas
Lukasss said:
The concept of this app is to have location-aware wifi.
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PhoneAlarm does what you want.
Lukasss said:
That's simple:
Start -> Settings -> Menu (right softkey) -> All Settings -> Connections -> WiFi -> Wireless Networks -> Menu (right softkey) -> Advanced
"Turn Off Wifi if not connected in x minutes"
I can't take screenshots at this time. You just need to open Wifi in Connections in windows mobile settings menu.
Let me know if you can't find it.
Grtz
Lukas
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Tnx, I was never aware of this feature
Wi-Fi Alliance - Wi-Fi Aware program.
This may help. Wi-Fi Alliance announced a new p2p certification program that enables power-efficient discovery of nearby information and services before making a connection and therefore the discovery is made w/o infrastructure. Search for "Wi-Fi Aware". aware#sthash.lG3aT03e.dpuf[/url]
Lukasss said:
Hi guys,
I had an idea for an app yesterday... I haven't had time to do a search, so maybe it already exists. If it does, please let me know.
The concept of this app is to have location-aware wifi. The app would connect to GPS at preconfigured intervals to check the location. If the location matches a preconfigured place (like home, work, starbucks, whatever), the app would turn on wifi and turn off the data connection.
During WiFi operation the GPS checks should cease. When you get out of wifi range and your cellphone shuts off wifi automatically (is already possible in WinMo), the scheduled GPS checks should resume.
The GPS checks need to happen on schedule similar to the schedule found in ActiveSync, also with peak times. So if you're at home at night the app knows it's not necessary to check location during that time.
The app could also have a function to store a new location as wifi-enabled place. So if you are visting an office or a new restaurant that has wifi, you could add it with just a few clicks.
What do you guys think? Any devs? Is that doable? Already done?
Regards,
Lukas
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Hello Members, just some help please.
In my Xperia z Ultra phone's 'stamina' mode setup, of all of my Smartwatch 2 apps and the SmartWatch 2 connect phone app are in the 'white list' for exception.
The thing is, some Smartwatch apps appear to want an 'always on' data connection, or access to it to refresh the service (an example is the weather extension), is anyone finding that they need to wake the phone to get some Smartwatch extensions to the work in whatever service they particular watch app provides.
I know there are GPS Smartwatch extension's that need the phone's GPS turn on prior to there use, but the 'Weather' extension just seems to need a Data connection.
In the phone's 'stamina' mode setup, what service, or application would need exemption from this power saving feature to allow the 3G data to be always on (or ready to connect to the network).
Any help would be great thanks
Regards
Livio
liviococcia said:
Hello Members, just some help please.
In my Xperia z Ultra phone's 'stamina' mode setup, of all of my Smartwatch 2 apps and the SmartWatch 2 connect phone app are in the 'white list' for exception.
The thing is, some Smartwatch apps appear to want an 'always on' data connection, or access to it to refresh the service (an example is the weather extension), is anyone finding that they need to wake the phone to get some Smartwatch extensions to the work in whatever service they particular watch app provides.
I know there are GPS Smartwatch extension's that need the phone's GPS turn on prior to there use, but the 'Weather' extension just seems to need a Data connection.
In the phone's 'stamina' mode setup, what service, or application would need exemption from this power saving feature to allow the 3G data to be always on (or ready to connect to the network).
Any help would be great thanks
Regards
Livio
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I don't think I am understanding your question. why your weather app would need to be constantly refreshed? only time I need mine refreshed is when I actually go and check it. the only things that I have made exceptions for would be bluetooth connection so that I don't drop connection to the watch every time my screen turns off and the smartwatch 2 app itself.
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ij0rgei said:
I don't think I am understanding your question. why your weather app would need to be constantly refreshed? only time I need mine refreshed is when I actually go and check it. the only things that I have made exceptions for would be bluetooth connection so that I don't drop connection to the watch every time my screen turns off and the smartwatch 2 app itself.
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Hello ijOrgei, thanks for the replay, and sorry for the delayed response, you just might have hit apon the one thing I haven't made an exception in my Stamina mode setup, the 'Bluetooth' connection, I'll just need to know what I'm looking for in the 'All Applications' listing, is it labelled 'Bluetooth Share'?
Thanks
Re: Smartwatch
As i think this is the new revolution in the watch market, and it is going to take some time for improvements in the connection. Or find some other source to get connected with the phone by watch and data sharing
liviococcia said:
Hello ijOrgei, thanks for the replay, and sorry for the delayed response, you just might have hit apon the one thing I haven't made an exception in my Stamina mode setup, the 'Bluetooth' connection, I'll just need to know what I'm looking for in the 'All Applications' listing, is it labelled 'Bluetooth Share'?
Thanks
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yea. it's labeled bluetooth share. that and smartwatch 2 are the only smartwatch related exceptions I have in Stamina mode. haven't had any issues with bluetooth connection that way. random drops here and there but usually connected majority of the time. hope that works.
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Cheers ijOrgei, I've done the exception so I'll see what happens, Regards
Let's say I am on vacation and need wifi. The only available wifi hotspots require passwords. Is there an app to get the password and connect to that wifi? Or an app that simply to connects to that secured wifi (without showing you the password) ?
The only ones I have been able to find are fake apps, aka prank/joke apps. They don't do nothing.
omarjuvera said:
Let's say I am on vacation and need wifi. The only available wifi hotspots require passwords. Is there an app to get the password and connect to that wifi? Or an app that simply to connects to that secured wifi (without showing you the password) ?
The only ones I have been able to find are fake apps, aka prank/joke apps. They don't do nothing.
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I don't think there is one in the playstore but i guess there are 1 or 2 in the world.
What you searching for is Illegal, so that means there isn't a App in the Playstore (And your wasting your time searching playstore for WI-FI hacks Etc.)
Buy a Sim-card and put some money on it and turn 3G/4G on but this is not on every country though.
Dear community, please help me. I'm going insane over this issue...
In my town there are several free & open WiFi spots to which you can connect without password. My problem is that this free WiFi is also within reach from my apartment and I want to make my phone & tablet to prefer my domestic closed&encrypted WiFi. I'm perfectly aware of the possibility to set WiFi-priorities. Problem is: those are only used when searching for a new connection. If my devices are connected to the public WiFi, they will never switch to my private one unless the connection breaks or I disable & enable WiFi in Android.
Right now, my rather silly "workaround" is to always delete the public WiFi from the list of known WiFis when I'm at home and re-add it when I go outside. But this procedure is getting quite annoying. I want Android to use this WiFi, just not when I'm at home...
I can't be the only one with this problem. Is there any way? Root and/or Xposed based solutions would be okay too....
I already tried the app "WiFi Prioritizer" from Google Play and it came pretty close to what I was looking for, unfortunately its background process was killing my battery.
What version of Android your phone and what the tablet has?
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Currently my Samsung i9100 runs AOSP NeatROM (Kitkat 4.4.4) and my Nexus 7 (2013) runs CleanROM (Lollipop 5.0.2).
It shouldn't matter though. I'm looking for some kind of universal solution that could work on any Android version... :-/
From what I have read and understood, your problem is that when you want to connect to a specific network (your home network) you can't because your device scans and connects to the '' free'' ones simply because you were connected to them before or you are still connected to one. From what I know and also have worked for me, is to simply tap on the network you want to connect each time(an analogue should pop up and ask whether to ''forget' the tapped network or to connect to it if you are already connected to another one.). Also I don't know if a module exists for this purpose on xposed framework.
Maybe there's another way to do it, but since I don't have bought the app (it's called IF BY IFTTT) I can't tell if it does or doesn't do what you want. What it does is that makes selected actions automatically by running in the background. I think that it can do almost ''anything'' (like to upload the latest photo you took from gallery to Instagram without your actions).
I hope I helped
No no, I can connect to my home network manually, that's not the problem.
My problem is that Android doesn't do it automatically, when it is within reach and the phone is still connected to another (the free) network.
What Android SCHOULD do is automatically drop the connection to the open Wifi, as soon as my higher priority home network is within reach.
I didn't said that you can't connect to your home network, I simply said that it doesn't seems to do it automatic. I have also prioritised my network preferences and still my phone doesn't connect to the first one if it is not disconnect from the other (by the way the two networks I have tried it to are my home ones). In conclusion in my opinion this option is where you want to connect first, not for changing the connection automatically based on the received signal(although it does if you completely lost the signal to the connected source). Probably in your case the free Wi-Fi is close enough to you and your phone or tablet doesn't disconnect from it which in my opinion is perfectly fine since my phone does exactly the same.
Oh sorry, maybe I misunderstood you before.
But yes, you summarized it completely correct. Only that this behavior is not perfectly fine for me, as I'm sick and tired of being connected to open, slow and unencrypted connection at home
I have the impression that Android's WiFi management is pretty bad
You can try the app that I mentioned earlier but I am not sure if will do what you want. I suggest get in touch with the developer and ask him. I am happy I helped.
PS.1 If I helped don't forget to use the thanks button as it helps me and lets community know that I have contributed.
PS.2 I don't take credit for the app, I just suggest it because I think it may work.
Have fun
Thanks for your help, I will try the app later today, it sure looks interesting. My only fear is that it will be a battery killer.
EDIT: This app didn't really do the trick for my needs... I'm back to always deleting the open WiFi out of the list of known WiFis... Too bad that there doesn't seem to be a good way to do what I need
On my S5, all saved wifi connections were visible in the wifi settings page. On the S7, it seems that only the connections within range are visible. If you go into the data usage / restrict networks, every saved wifi connection is displayed, but there is no way to delete them from there. It seems that there is no way to delete a saved wifi connection once it goes out of range. Anyone know how to do this?
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...On the S7, it seems that only the connections within range are visible. I...
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Exactly the same issue here. Anyone got any workarounds (non-root)? Third party apps don't seem to work. Pretty ridiculous that you can't forget a saved network and causes a serious issue for me: I have to change my password at work and can't forget the WiFi AP before getting to the office so I'm locked out of my work account...
It is a bit annoying but I can't see how it's a problem?
How are you locked out of your work account?
You can change password when you are in range.
What's the other issue?
jarayn said:
It is a bit annoying but I can't see how it's a problem?
How are you locked out of your work account?
You can change password when you are in range.
What's the other issue?
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The problematic are Hotel / Airport / etc. Hotspots...
When i received my S7 i "load" an backup from my old android phone... I few days earlier i returned from a long holiday trip and so the "restore-backup" created a lot of hotspots an my S7 i never never need and i'm not able to delete ....
(OK - i can start for a second trip, visit all places and delete hotspot when connected... ) <-- ironic
jarayn said:
It is a bit annoying but I can't see how it's a problem?
How are you locked out of your work account?...
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We use exchange authentication for WiFi at work. The phone automatically tries to connect using the old password as soon as i'm near the office. Does this three times and locks my ability to use the WiFi. This is before i have chance to see it and forget it in the WiFi settings. Such a simple omission in the UX makes this even an more annoying issue.
Yeah OK the work thing sounds a bit troublesome. I would turn off wifi before I go then turn it on when I'm ready and forget the network before it connects.
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The holiday wifi hotspot thing i don't get still.
Why is that a problem? You can't see the networks anyway. Is it just an ocd thing?
well you have a drastic option, if nothing else works
go settings>backup and reset>reset network settings
this will erase all your wifi, as well as all bluetooth and data connections saved
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wegiwegi said:
well you have a drastic option, if nothing else works
go settings>backup and reset>reset network settings
this will erase all your wifi, as well as all bluetooth and data connections saved
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just done that myself, all my connections disappeared, it works fine, you should try that
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The problem with the holiday Hotspots is at least not a real problem... But I don't like this.
I would prefer a function to delete Hotspots even when I'm not connected to them...
(maybe it is small security issue, because a common SSID can be used to connect with my phone...)
Wifi Manager - choose Known network, then remove.
I reported this to Samsung support. That's the only way to get them to fix it. The more people report it, the more likely they are to fix it sooner.
As for whether it's a "problem", I suppose it's not immediately a show stopper. However, after only a couple of weeks, I accumulated a lot of hotspots that clutter up the restrict networks page. Who knows, if too many build up it could cause an problem. There is no reason for Samsung to have implemented it in this way. I've never seen a device (mobile or pc) that did this.
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Wifi Manager - choose Known network, then remove.
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Thanks, but Android 6 only allows you to forget those networks that you've connected to using the same app. So you can only forget those that you connected to with WiFi Manager, not the in-built settings.
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Thanks, but Android 6 only allows you to forget those networks that you've connected to using the same app. So you can only forget those that you connected to with WiFi Manager, not the in-built settings.
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Edit: you're correct. I think root and find where file or db that stores the SSID would be the next option.
Edit 2: Get a root editor, backup /data/misc/wifi/wpa_supplicant.conf, then edit it to either remove the entire SSID entry, or set autojoin to 0. There may be root apps that does this.
The plain text passwords are also stored in that supplicant file.
I don't think there is any non-root solution until Samsung changes the Wifi settings to show out-of-range SSIDs. I agree that it is silly for it to not do have this feature at all.
2 solutions so far (?)
Hi,
if you have a non rooted S7 there is no build in possibility to delete the saved wifi connections if you are out of range. Samsung has to fix this in my opinion.
With Marshmallow you can only delete wifi networks with the same app you created them, so third party apps like wifi manager do not work. So far there might be two solutions which work, both are far away from being perfect.
- First solution is to delete ALL network connections...and start from the beginning (1. Go to settings -> 2. Bakup and reset -> 3. Reset network settings -> 4. Follow on screen instructions)...including bluetooth etc.
- Second solution is not fine either. Take a third party app like wifi manager from Kostya on play store and list all known networks. Then set up a (fake) wifi access point with the SSID you want to delete. Once they are in range, you can delete the saved wifi connection. You have to repeat this for every SSID you want to delete.
Best regards,
Alexander
jarayn said:
Yeah OK the work thing sounds a bit troublesome. I would turn off wifi before I go then turn it on when I'm ready and forget the network before it connects.
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The holiday wifi hotspot thing i don't get still.
Why is that a problem? You can't see the networks anyway. Is it just an ocd thing?
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Ummm..... maybe cuz stored WiFi networks spew out a wealth of valuable information!!
isc.sans.edu/forums/diary/WiFi+Still+Remains+a+Good+Attack+Vector/21583
lost_ said:
Wifi Manager - choose Known network, then remove.
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can not remove!
I updated my S7 today (with Sprint) to Android 7, and they fixed this. Out-of-range WiFi networks are listed under the "Manage Networks" options and can be removed from there.