Related
Not sure I'm going to sell, but weighing my options....
In the last few weeks I've played with an iPhone, Fuze, Storm, and Omnia. The iPhone was ruled out a while a go. I thought I ruled out the Fuze due to the screen size and mediocre video. I just got the Omnia and not really satified with the video playback. Since this seems to be a major selling and praise point about the phone, this seems odd. I assume most issues can be fixed by a custom ROM, but I don't see any for the Verizon version. I actually got the Omnia for $129.99, so it was the cheapest of the bunch. That's where another issue was thrown in.....
Called AT&T warranty as I've had the Tilt replaced about 5 times. He mentioned they would give a warranty replacement and offered a Bold, Fuze, or Incite. I selected the Fuze and now have a brand new sealed in box Fuze. I'm wondering, can I sell the Fuze the way it is? If I cancel my contract and go with the Omnia or Storm, can I sell the Fuze sealed? I'm guessing I'll need to pop it open and activate it before I cancel in order for it to be "contract free". I can't make up my mind which one I want to keep. I figure I'll play around a little more with the Omnia to see if I can get better video or if a patch for the Storm comes out. Once my time limit on the phones get closer, I'll have to make a decision.
you dont have to activate it at all, att really could careless about whatever phone you have on your plan
that fuze is still a refurb..its just in a "full kit" packaging..att doesnt send out NEW devices anymore..they used to but unless alot of threatening happens and they have a NEW one sent by a manager from another deopartment than it still comes in a sealed packaing (mine came in a sealed box too with sealed accesories and through warranty exchange earlier this week but i could see micro scratches on the action button indicating ithad been used even though it had the factory screen film on it) but its still a refurb (if you call att with the IMEI and check its warranty status itl come up 90 days)..just thought id share so someone doesnt come back to you in 4 months and woops your butt when they couldnt ezchange it through warranty and for selling them a refurb lol
Hmmm, speaking with the rep, he said he'd send me a new Fuze and even overnight it for my troubles.
I'm not worried about my account. I don't want to sell it and have AT&T tell them they have to have a 2 year agreement with the phone.
First off, this thread is a hypothetical. I need advice on the Sprint hardware replacement and insurance claim replacement processes and what they generally entail. This thread may traverse into the murky grey area between the black and white of right or wrong when it comes to insurance phone claims and defective hardware replacement. Please don't waste your time informing me of this or criticizing any possible manipulation of the hardware replacement techniques Sprint will employ should the necessary trigger be made.
I have a Sprint Mogul. I have a SERO account. I will be approaching my 2 year resign and upgrade date this summer. I pay the full $7 total equipment protection/insurance. The Sprint Mogul is now at End Of Life (EOL). Apparently, according to some reports I have seen, reps are telling customers with failed hardware replacement tickets that they can get a refurb'd Mogul (if supply allows) and if not they will get a TP. In addition, now that the mogul is EOL, an insurance claim should technically get you a TP for $50 because the Mogul supplies are dwindling and who really wants a phone that's discontinued anyway.
The question is: What is the cheapest -or- most likely to be successful method for getting a touch pro replacement? I have a ticket open on my phone (with no action taken by me to take the phone to a store for inspection) for some potential radio issues. Thus, there is some past documentation for my phone which lends credibility to some potential hardware issues having been experienced and documented. In all honesty, I have been having some issues with my phone recently but they don't rise to the level of dead ear piece or broken keys which usually equal a traditional hardware replacement. If I call Sprint and say my data speeds are not where they should be and my phone drops and lot of calls, behaves erratically, and loses a charge very quickly - what will the Sprint rep's next course of action be? Send in the phone for testing, at which point a free replacement will be sent ONLY if legit hardware defects are found? Replace with a TP regardless of legit hardware issues being found? Will they send the replacement immediately and then charge you according to results of inspection of old phone? How does this process work? Anyone with experience, please chime in. Conversely, if I would happen to lose the phone I could make a claim and pay the $50 premium. This would most likely result in a TP replacement and I probably would not settle for less.
Finally, there has been some recent litigation against lock-line for its rather shady practice of filling claims with refurb'd phones. Hopefully, the publicity and heat will end this practice.
A class-action lawsuit filed in Miami in August contends that the coverage is deceptive because consumers often receive cheap, used or refurbished phones as replacements. The suit names lock\line, Nashville-based Asurion Insurance Services and Signal Holdings in Wayne, Pa., as defendants. -- Jill Metzler, a spokeswoman for DST Systems Inc. in Kansas City, lock\line's owner, declined to comment on the litigation. DST Systems has signed a definitive agreement to merge its lock\line subsidiary into Asurion Corp.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Has anyone had experience with this? They have already settled some class action suits based on these practices. I am hoping they have started shying away from refurbs until new bull**** documentation is drafted to get around ripping people off.
Thanks in advance for your experience and/or inside information on how this process works. Please don't reply if you have no valuable information to share and I also don't want to hear any opinions or general thoughts on the undertaking this hypothetical proposes.
okay, i used to work for service and repair for sprint and i can tell you this:
-Aside from the sprint store HAPPENING to have an extra touch pro in their seed stock (not likely) and HAPPENING to come across a sprint employee that just really really wants to do you (instead of himself or somebody in the store otehrwise) a favor and switch out your mogul for the TP......there's absolutely no way this is going to happen
let me take you back to the days of the Audiovox (aka HTC) PPC 6700. This thing had to be one of the most horrible and unreliable WM phones out there. We had floods of these phones coming in when they were new, and still had (last time i worked for sprint) floods of them coming in now that they are old. Asurion and Sprint stores alike keep massive stock of discontinued phones dating back to some of the first sanyo and UTstarcom phones sprint carried (pre-digital era we're talking about).
i've personally had customers coming into sprint (or going through asurion) no less than 15 times for the same phone with the same problem over and over and over again. They'll keep recieving a 6700 until they decide to upgrade.
A) Because you're only going to get what you've got insured. When your house blows up, they dont upgrade you to a mansion.
B) Any sprint employee that somehow gets a current model smartphone as an EXTRA in it's seedstock will definitely take or give it to somebody they know as an upgraded replacement....
C) Asurion (especially with problem-prone HTC devices) carries huge stocks of these phones and will have them to you in no less than a week.
Now.....when the TP becomes old news and the regular store stock is converted into Service & Repair seed stock...then you've got yourself a fighting chance....but until then:
your only option of upgrading is upgrading. Whether you con the retentions department into giving you an early upgrade by threatening them of going to another carrier, or are a good enough customer that they give you an extremely discounted Touch Pro.....there's only one way out
Moral of the story: Befriend your local sprint service and repair rep.
oh, and that bit about refurbished phones.
NOT going to go anywhere, and if it does......say goodbye to affordable phone insurance. People are too stupid to realize that they are getting a ****ing steal for 7 dollars a month, especially considering that the average customer with TEP (in my experiences) were in multiple times a year, if not a handful.
sprint, especiaily, gives stellar service and repair without having to deal with asurion and most of the time you will have no deductable BECAUSE they are reusing parts.
want a new phone ? great, then see that best buy insurance for the iphone that costs upwards of 15 dollars a month with a huge deductable? that's what insurance will look like for you.
I agree with Whitesox311. If they didn't have Mogul's in stock and couldn't get any, then you might be upgraded, but a TP is still doubtful. They try to upgrade you to a "similar" phone, in other words, whatever the cheapest pda is that they have that is close in specs. You might get a Sprint Touch, possibly a Diamond, but the TP is the most expensive pda they have and their flagship phone, so it is highly unlikely you'll get one.
They will probably have new and refurb Mogul's in stock for a while still, even if it is EOL for retail.
People with the Apache were trying to do this when the Mogul came out and most of them didn't have any luck because they had plenty of Apaches left to give out.
So as long as you have a legit claim, then go through the proper channels, but don't try to abuse the TEP by using it as an upgrade program.
whitesox311 said:
okay, i used to work for service and repair for sprint and i can tell you this:
-Aside from the sprint store HAPPENING to have an extra touch pro in their seed stock (not likely) and HAPPENING to come across a sprint employee that just really really wants to do you (instead of himself or somebody in the store otehrwise) a favor and switch out your mogul for the TP......there's absolutely no way this is going to happen
let me take you back to the days of the Audiovox (aka HTC) PPC 6700. This thing had to be one of the most horrible and unreliable WM phones out there. We had floods of these phones coming in when they were new, and still had (last time i worked for sprint) floods of them coming in now that they are old. Asurion and Sprint stores alike keep massive stock of discontinued phones dating back to some of the first sanyo and UTstarcom phones sprint carried (pre-digital era we're talking about).
i've personally had customers coming into sprint (or going through asurion) no less than 15 times for the same phone with the same problem over and over and over again. They'll keep recieving a 6700 until they decide to upgrade.
A) Because you're only going to get what you've got insured. When your house blows up, they dont upgrade you to a mansion.
B) Any sprint employee that somehow gets a current model smartphone as an EXTRA in it's seedstock will definitely take or give it to somebody they know as an upgraded replacement....
C) Asurion (especially with problem-prone HTC devices) carries huge stocks of these phones and will have them to you in no less than a week.
Now.....when the TP becomes old news and the regular store stock is converted into Service & Repair seed stock...then you've got yourself a fighting chance....but until then:
your only option of upgrading is upgrading. Whether you con the retentions department into giving you an early upgrade by threatening them of going to another carrier, or are a good enough customer that they give you an extremely discounted Touch Pro.....there's only one way out
Moral of the story: Befriend your local sprint service and repair rep.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree with what you say and it sounds realistic. However, one thing has changed since when the TP came out. The Mogul is now EOL. I think the odds are better now than they were in Oct. or Nov. Just today @ PPCgeeks a member posted that he put in a replacement and they sent him a TP free of charge. Even the refurb'd supplies that Asurion and stores have should be drying up eventually. The life cycle of the mogul was shorter than the apache. I dont expect as many units in the retail channel. I have seen other recent reports (only a few) of customers getting TP's because mogul inventory was depleted. It may be wishful thinking on my part but I think that Mogul being EOL definitely helps.
whitesox311 said:
oh, and that bit about refurbished phones.
NOT going to go anywhere, and if it does......say goodbye to affordable phone insurance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No offense, but this statement shows how little you know or have researched. They have SETTLED numerous class action suits for this very practice. Asurion has already paid for fraudulent and unfair claims practices. There are signs that they are shying away from issuing refurbs in certain instances due to the publicity and lawsuits. It is legitimized in their ToS and EULA but the consumer is fighting back (and winning). So again, what you say sounds realistic but being a former employee of a Sprint store (or whatever) doesnt make you an expert on anything. The factor you keep under valuing is that Mogul supplies (especially at random repair stores) will be drying up now. They have little other option but a TP if they cant source a refurb'd Mogul. Asurion probably has a larger back stock of mogul refurb's though.
Or.....
you can get the best buy htc touch pro for $199, and sell your mogul on ebay for $100-150 and you have done it legit.
It may cost you 50-100 this way but it works.
i guess we got it made on at&t..free warranty and free device upgrade after 3 or 4 warranty exchanges..who needs insurance? just dont break your phone physically (and why would you..because we all baby them) and youll never have to pay for a device again..
whitesox311 said:
oh, and that bit about refurbished phones.
NOT going to go anywhere, and if it does......say goodbye to affordable phone insurance. People are too stupid to realize that they are getting a ****ing steal for 7 dollars a month, especially considering that the average customer with TEP (in my experiences) were in multiple times a year, if not a handful.
sprint, especiaily, gives stellar service and repair without having to deal with asurion and most of the time you will have no deductable BECAUSE they are reusing parts.
want a new phone ? great, then see that best buy insurance for the iphone that costs upwards of 15 dollars a month with a huge deductable? that's what insurance will look like for you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Umm...Best Buy's insurance on the TP would be 9.99 a month with no deductible. I don't know why the iPhone insurance would be relevant? There are no deductibles for Best Buy insurance, and they do give you a brand new phone.
Worked for me at Puerto Rico... ...Just 50 bucks, no contract extension...
you can do what i did and 2 other people did we had our moguls replace over at ppcgeeks they have a thread about filling out a form and getting a tp here is the website http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=53327
I got upgraded to a TP
Well on Sunday, I dropped and cracked my Mogul screen, did a claim on the assurian website, and got a Brand New Touch Pro on Tuesday in the mail. $50 and it did nothing to my contract, no extension. I will be getting the new Palm when it comes out.
So my ultimate goal is to try and get AT&T to give me a new phone - a Touch Pro 2. Silly, I know. But I have known many Fuze owners who got AT&T to offer them Blackberriers or iPhones after dealing with them and a few refurbished phones.
So I'd just like some advice. My 1-year warranty expires November 19th. Do you think it's possible? Or worth it? Have you done it? Any advice? I love my Fuze, but I don't want to spend another year with it when the Touch Pro 2 is out, and I'm not paying 350 dollars just to get it.
Alternative plans? Maybe speculation on when I'll be able to buy it somewhere else cheaper? Just advice in general.
thehyecircus said:
So my ultimate goal is to try and get AT&T to give me a new phone - a Touch Pro 2. Silly, I know. But I have known many Fuze owners who got AT&T to offer them Blackberriers or iPhones after dealing with them and a few refurbished phones.
So I'd just like some advice. My 1-year warranty expires November 19th. Do you think it's possible? Or worth it? Have you done it? Any advice? I love my Fuze, but I don't want to spend another year with it when the Touch Pro 2 is out, and I'm not paying 350 dollars just to get it.
Alternative plans? Maybe speculation on when I'll be able to buy it somewhere else cheaper? Just advice in general.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
AT&T will replace it with another Fuze as long as they're available.
If you want to get out of your contract with AT&T, there should be something in the fine print regarding "if AT&T changes your plan w/o notification, a person can opt out of their contract". The surcharge that they bill changes every month and they establish it so therefore its a change to your contract that they did. They will try to agrue but legally they can't.
AT&T usually charges more for their hardware than their competition.
Another thing you may want to consider is insurance. Its about $7/mo. and if you time it right, you can get an upgrade.
Not likely. My friend did make them upgrade from my tilt to the fuze. It took him nearly 6 months. I do not recommend it but this is what my friend did to upgrade to the fuze.
- You will have to damge your phone in a way they can't tell. Shoving hand sanitizer in the usb or sdhc slot will ruin it but not register any alarms.
- They will send you another one. Wait a couple months... Damage it.
- Damage the second one after a few months
- After that your on your last. Damage it.
Finally they MAY let you pick a new one. I cant say if they will offer the T2 I do know they will offer a Samsung Epix, and/or a Blackberry. FYI: This is fraud. It is illegal. I do not support or have any responsibility for what you choose to do. This is a story. This took about 6 months for my friend to complete. Up to you if you wanna risk your life.
What you do is fraud and illegal. Telling AT&T that the Fuze gets extremely hot during phone calls or internet usage is not. It's true about the Fuze. I think you can get them to take it and send it back via that. And it's not lying - it really does get egg frying hot.
thehyecircus said:
What you do is fraud and illegal. Telling AT&T that the Fuze gets extremely hot during phone calls or internet usage is not. It's true about the Fuze. I think you can get them to take it and send it back via that. And it's not lying - it really does get egg frying hot.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if you want it hot, enable GPS, wifi, 3G, data connection....
just with GPS + iGo, power draw seems to be between 300-500mAh...
they warrantied mine cause of a wobbly slide.... kinda wiggled some, but everything else worked.... i kind of got hooked up tho... i work at a phone place near a device support center, and we send customers to each other.... so i just wore my work shirt up there, and they gave me no problems... easy to tell i dropped it some...
had a friend warranty his sony when he busted his lcd.... couldnt tell it was busted while it was off, so *someone* unhooked it during a flash, and killed it somewhat... they replaced his phone no problem, and at the retail store... so maybe flash it dead? read something about the microwave trick too... up to u whatever u do....
@ jesusishere WTF?
Scamming a company to get a new device?
It's called FRAUD, it's not acceptable.
You are not a customer but a thief!
See this as your first and FINAL warning.
EqX
ok i just checked the att website for the new tilt 2 but it isnt out til oct 18. but i seen the the fuze is no longer on there. ive had my fuze sense nov 10. and i was wondering if i say i lost my fuze around lets say oct 20 will they send me a tilt 2. im saying this because i used my insurance a while back on my old phone and they didnt have that phone anymore so they sent me a phone that was the same value.. do u think it will work??
I posted a thread on this in the Rhodium as well. I have insurance too and had my fuze for about 6 months now and bummed i couldnt of held out for the tilt 2 and i dont have the money to pay 500 bucks for a no contract tilt 2. I wish a carrier would have a exchange program or something instead of this 2 year upgrade. I burn through phones within a year
Anyways what people replied to me was they probably have a lot of refurb fuzes
Interesting
I recently lost my Tilt to a horrible accident involving a puddle and concrete... so I got a Fuze for replacement... and it was refurbished and had the burn-in issue on the screen... I got another refurb Fuze to replace that one... this one is having the same issue - so I am going to keep requesting Fuze's till I get one person to acknowledge my request to get a NEW phone and not a refurb...
That might be a way to get your Tilt 2 if you receive a bad refurb and raise enough cane!
Well, truth be told they likely will have a large backstock of refurb fuzes for a while. If you are a person who's had chronic problems with your phone and it's under warrenty, if you make a fuss about the problems over multiple phones, they may bump you up.
lafastfords said:
ok i just checked the att website for the new tilt 2 but it isnt out til oct 18. but i seen the the fuze is no longer on there. ive had my fuze sense nov 10. and i was wondering if i say i lost my fuze around lets say oct 20 will they send me a tilt 2. im saying this because i used my insurance a while back on my old phone and they didnt have that phone anymore so they sent me a phone that was the same value.. do u think it will work??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Aside from the moral issue of insurance fraud, it should work. Just hope you don't get caught.
ya know - I've about had it with people doing crap like this. Look - if you want a new phone then buy one. If you don't want to pay full price for it then sell the phone you have or wait a few months for the price to come down.
It's creeps that commit fraud like this that cause the detuctibles on these devices to end up being 125 bucks for all the honest people.
....Disgusting....
I just swap out the phone before the 1 year warranty ends and sell it on ebay. Use the money for your new phone.
Mine has a busted flux capacitor anway.
They will have a large supply of Fuze's laying around, they know people will try to do this, I'd love to do it, I think they still even had a stock of the first Tilts around for quite a long time. Just to let you know a couple months back I still had the ability to buy a Tilt through the premier store even though they didn't have them on the regular site. Right now I still see the Fuze on their premiere site. So they most likely have a stock. However, from what I understand how these places work is there's a stock for sale and a stock for warranty, they don't come from one giant stock pile. So if they run out of their warranty stock, maybe you'd be able to pull it off, but who knows, maybe they'd just siphon a couple off the sale stock into the warranty stock (most likely they'd do this so the ones they sell have a backup incase something goes wrong). Thought I'd just through that out there.
well i upgraded to a fuze from the tilt... i broke my tilt and had to use the insurance... they replaced it with a refurb tilt but i kept having problems... it took at&t 4 tilt phones before they upgraded me to a fuze and then i still kept having problems... it took them to send me 3 fuzes until they finally got it right... it wasnt a scam just they kept sending me crappy phones and if i must keep up my end of the bargin and pay ontime then they must step up to the plate and send me a phone that works as well as a new phone.. which they did...
... and everybody is complaining why insurance is so freaking expensive!!!
Beside the fraud fact (DISGUSTING) sell it on eBay, craigslist or one of the other common suspect pages, bunk the money and BUY the TP2 or whatever you want.
I did that with my last two phone which was always a 50% to 75% "off" in terms of the purchasing price of the new phone.
jayhue said:
well i upgraded to a fuze from the tilt... i broke my tilt and had to use the insurance... they replaced it with a refurb tilt but i kept having problems... it took at&t 4 tilt phones before they upgraded me to a fuze and then i still kept having problems... it took them to send me 3 fuzes until they finally got it right... it wasnt a scam just they kept sending me crappy phones and if i must keep up my end of the bargin and pay ontime then they must step up to the plate and send me a phone that works as well as a new phone.. which they did...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Before anyone starts dissin anybody, it is a fact that sometimes they just can't get it right. I had a problem with my original fuze and it took them 4 times to send a "decent" one, and by decent I meant a unit without:
-broken/recessed hardware key
-earpiece that's breaking up
-speaker that's breaking up like it's been used for a rock concert
so the last Fuze that they sent, which I'm using now, has a slightly recessed Answer key and crappy speaker. I decided to use it because I don't wanna go through the endless cycle of crappy replacement.
The moral of the story is, they do send out crappy replacements.
tyguy said:
... and everybody is complaining why insurance is so freaking expensive!!!
Beside the fraud fact (DISGUSTING) sell it on eBay, craigslist or one of the other common suspect pages, bunk the money and BUY the TP2 or whatever you want.
I did that with my last two phone which was always a 50% to 75% "off" in terms of the purchasing price of the new phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
not fraud u dumb ass.. i have that burn in screen and the plastic is coming off the hard keys.. just like everyother fuze
lafastfords said:
not fraud u dumb ass.. i have that burn in screen and the plastic is coming off the hard keys.. just like everyother fuze
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Careful who you talk to and what language you use my friend!
YOU WROTE...
i was wondering if i say i lost my fuze around lets say oct 20 will they send me a tilt 2. im saying this because i used my insurance a while back on my old phone and they didnt have that phone anymore so they
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
...SO WHO's THE RETARD?
Can one who agrees with me notify the admin that this BS thread gets closed? Topics like this were discussed numerous times and answers like lafuckfords - or what his name is - simply don't belong here.
baymon said:
Before anyone starts dissin anybody, it is a fact that sometimes they just can't get it right. I had a problem with my original fuze and it took them 4 times to send a "decent" one, and by decent I meant a unit without:
-broken/recessed hardware key
-earpiece that's breaking up
-speaker that's breaking up like it's been used for a rock concert
so the last Fuze that they sent, which I'm using now, has a slightly recessed Answer key and crappy speaker. I decided to use it because I don't wanna go through the endless cycle of crappy replacement.
The moral of the story is, they do send out crappy replacements.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Basically what happened to mine. I was getting Screen burn in and while I dealt with it for a while, I knew my warranty was about due. I called and asked for a replacement 3 times. Each one was defective.
-The half of the touchpad buttons didn't work on the first one (depressed).
-The second one had a broken slider track so it dragged opening the keyboard.
-The third one the speaker was screwed.
When they wanted to do a phone swap, I thought I'd ask for a Samsung Jack for my wife since her line is eligible for an upgrade. I figured I would "downgrade" to the Jack and use her line to buy a Pure or TP2. The lady said they wouldn't let me downgrade to a lesser phone?! So if I can't go down, perhaps they'd let me go up... so I asked and it worked.
Kinda scared about not having a Dpad on the Pure.
I think its stupid they wouldn't let me "downgrade" to the Jack. I woulda just turned around and signed another 2-year contract and plopped down $350 for the TP2.
my 2 cents in this situation is just save money and then buy it just like what that guy said, best and safe way to get a new device without the risk of violating any terms or law
AT&T exchange policy
well the truth is that, att has a policy that if you exchange a phone 3 times during the year of warranty, at that time you can change model. I did this twice, first with a Palm Treo650 changed it to a palm treo 700, then with the Tilt I was able to change to the brand new released(back then) Fuze, completly free only S&H.
Does anybody know if AT&T is starting to exchange the fuze for the new tilt 2. I'm talking insurance exchange or warranty exchange. Anybody know something about it, or they still have the fuze on stock?????
wisocabeza said:
Does anybody know if AT&T is starting to exchange the fuze for the new tilt 2. I'm talking insurance exchange or warranty exchange. Anybody know something about it, or they still have the fuze on stock?????
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They still have the Fuze in stock :/
I called so many times, it's not even funny.
Here's something that might pique your interest. Couple of minutes ago, I saw this thread about people impatiently waiting to exchange their Tilt's to Fuze's. The Fuze was available in the Warranty Department approximately three weeks after it was officially launched.
It was an interesting thread to read. It seemed like many were purposely destroying their Tilt's to get them warrantied to Tilt's again, just to "extend" the warranty period since each warranty carries 90 days. The "best method" suggested was removing the USB cable while updating, and then playing dumb about it, lol.
fuze has a 1 year warranty. let me know if anyone has figured out a way. >.>
It's a nightmare trying to get a replacement through Warranty. I'm on my fourth Fuze now, because I have had legit warranty claims. They decided to upgrade me to a Tilt 2, sent me seed stock instead of a new phone kit, so I have a Tilt 2 without a battery or software. I called about that, they were supposed to send me out my new phone kit with a Tilt 2 in it yet again, sent me a Pure instead. Now I'm waiting for them to send me a battery for the Tilt 2 that I already have cause they don't have any new phone kits in stock for the Tilt 2. Though, I'm kind of tempted to try out the Pure, just because I can't hear anything on my Fuze as is and have some very important stuff coming up with work where I need to be able to hear customers. Ugh, AT&T can be a nightmare to deal with. I'm actually really tempted to switch to Verizon, Sprint, or T-mobile right now.
jjensen0331 said:
It's a nightmare trying to get a replacement through Warranty. I'm on my fourth Fuze now, because I have had legit warranty claims. They decided to upgrade me to a Tilt 2, sent me seed stock instead of a new phone kit, so I have a Tilt 2 without a battery or software. I called about that, they were supposed to send me out my new phone kit with a Tilt 2 in it yet again, sent me a Pure instead. Now I'm waiting for them to send me a battery for the Tilt 2 that I already have cause they don't have any new phone kits in stock for the Tilt 2. Though, I'm kind of tempted to try out the Pure, just because I can't hear anything on my Fuze as is and have some very important stuff coming up with work where I need to be able to hear customers. Ugh, AT&T can be a nightmare to deal with. I'm actually really tempted to switch to Verizon, Sprint, or T-mobile right now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm on my 4th Fuze as well. How did you get them to even send you the Tilt 2? They just kept on saying it's not available yet.
Just got the right CSR that put it through, and you have to be very nice to them. Just asked about comparable phones, he suggested it - it has to be their idea and recommendation. Still trying to get a battery from AT&T, they say they're out of stock, Warranty called a couple stores close by couldn't find one, but on the website it doesn't say they're out, but it's unlikely they'd send me a new one, heaven forbid. I've got three phones in my possession right now, my screwed up Fuze, a new in the box Pure and the Tilt 2. I'm worried they're going to screw up and bill me for all of them full price, even though they have assured me that won't happen. When I worked in collections years ago for them, saw that happen all the time, even when the phones were sent back in time, it was always a pain to sort out.
Being a ex at&t store manager let me tell you how the XBM (exchange by mail) process works.... If you have a defective device that is within its warrant period which is 1 year from the date that you started your contract at&t will switch it out at no cost to you. The phone cannot be water damanged, or physically damanged (there pretty strict about this). I have had customer who there definition of physical damange was different from what at&t thought and they ended up getting charged full price for the phone. so be very careful. They don't usually take anything that has been dropped or have deep scratches. Basically has to look ok where they can sell it again as a refurb or something. Secondly the only way they will send you out a different device is if you had to same problem with your current one. Its call the 3 strike policy. You can't just ask them for a new one you kinda have to play it off like you can't stand the fact that you keep getting messed of phone of that model. Lastly they will give you options to pick from whatever they have in stock that is the best match for what you have. At times they might not have anything and have no choice but to upgrade you to a newer one. I seen it happen a lot where they just upgrade you to a new device. When the 8300 curve came out a lot of ppl i know was calling in lying to say it was messed up just to get the gps verison 8310 which came out 4 months later. I would't advise anyone to do this unless it is a real problem with the phone. They keep records of every return that you do and can terminate your service if they feel like your trying to cheat them. The tilt two is a great phone tho hard to choose. There's some third party website that i might can direct you too if you want a tilt for a good price but you have to be able to upgrade and sign a two year contract. I got mines for free and just had to sign a contract that's it. And it at&t prorating terminations fees it wasn't big deal for me. thanks
and if i have insurance on the account, i pay $5 monthly, does they still have the fuze on stock.
Chances are that they have plenty of refurbished Fuzes in stock. It's not wise to try to scam the system just to get a new phone to have a new phone. It just makes it harder for people with legit reasons to get theirs replaced.
If you want to do a insurance claim instead of a warrant exchange they are two different things. The insurance is handled by a third party called asurion or something like that. Where warranty exchange is done by at&t themselves. If you decide to go with the insurance claim you will have to pay a $125 insurance deductible which is non-refundable. If you want to do the XBM then you wont have to pay anything as long as your phone is not water or physically damanged. If it is like stated above you WILL be charge full price for the phone they will read you a agreement of the terms and condition before they send out your phone. For both of the process above you have to send back your original device unless for the insurance its lost/stolen. Even if you have insurance and your phone is messed up you still would have to pay the $125.
and yes they more then likely have a lot of fuze in stock still. It would take at least a month or so before they will be getting the tilt 2. They will have some in stock but it would be for ppl with the tilt 2. At&t also has a policy where if its under 30 days you have to take it back to where you got it from before they will exchange it thru the mail. So it would be at least 20 days or so of the release date of the tilt 2 before at&t worries about exchanging that out for ppl with the tilt 2.
cant sweet talk em? "hey baby, lookin mighteh fine... fine as wine *wink*"
At&T Warranty Exchange Unfair
la0xboix7o4 said:
Being a ex at&t store manager let me tell you how the XBM (exchange by mail) process works.... If you have a defective device that is within its warrant period which is 1 year from the date that you started your contract at&t will switch it out at no cost to you. The phone cannot be water damanged, or physically damanged (there pretty strict about this). I have had customer who there definition of physical damange was different from what at&t thought and they ended up getting charged full price for the phone. so be very careful. They don't usually take anything that has been dropped or have deep scratches. Basically has to look ok where they can sell it again as a refurb or something. Secondly the only way they will send you out a different device is if you had to same problem with your current one. Its call the 3 strike policy. You can't just ask them for a new one you kinda have to play it off like you can't stand the fact that you keep getting messed of phone of that model. Lastly they will give you options to pick from whatever they have in stock that is the best match for what you have. At times they might not have anything and have no choice but to upgrade you to a newer one. I seen it happen a lot where they just upgrade you to a new device. When the 8300 curve came out a lot of ppl i know was calling in lying to say it was messed up just to get the gps verison 8310 which came out 4 months later. I would't advise anyone to do this unless it is a real problem with the phone. They keep records of every return that you do and can terminate your service if they feel like your trying to cheat them. The tilt two is a great phone tho hard to choose. There's some third party website that i might can direct you too if you want a tilt for a good price but you have to be able to upgrade and sign a two year contract. I got mines for free and just had to sign a contract that's it. And it at&t prorating terminations fees it wasn't big deal for me. thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My husband’s Motorola Tundra was in his pocket. The phone started to burn him while it was in his pocket. There were no incoming calls. He immediately removed his phone and set it down for about thirty minutes. He tried to power the phone up but to no avail. I called AT&T to exchange the phone since it was only about eight months old.
I was told by the Warranty Exchange department that if there were any liquid damage the warranty would be void. Upon looking at the litmus indicator I noticed there were pink speckles. I did not want to pay for a phone that was obviously defective and not abused by my husband.
Therefore, I called AT&T again and explained again that the Tundra was not exposed to water. The representative told me that nothing could be done by AT&T until my next billing cycle when the new phone would be charged to my account. I was told not to worry and go ahead and send the phone in and a Commitment Call would be made to clear up the situation on the next billing cycle if AT&T did not hear from me.
I did receive the new Tundra and returned the damaged phone. The damaged phone was returned to me indicating that the liquid damage indicator was removed. I DID NOT REMOVE THE INDICATOR! I was charged $210.
In the meantime, I called Motorola. The Motorola technician told me that the litmus paper could have been activated by a leaky battery.
I telephoned AT&T today and the $210 was reduced by half. I spoke with three levels of representatives indicating that I did not feel paying anything was acceptable by me based on the principle of this matter. Our original Motorola Tundra was only eight months old and obviously defective. I feel that AT&T is basically accusing me of being dishonest because the liquid damage indicator had pink speckles. What other alternative did I have but to send the phone in since we use it in our business. I accepted the reduction for the cost of the new Tundra with hesitation. It is not so much the money but the principle of this issue. I am a very dissatisfied customer.
They're horrible about running over people. I never understood their reasoning... I would see people get full out replacements for nothing, when they hardly ever paid their bill and had like ten charged off accounts, then on the other hand, you would have customers that had been with them ten years through the various names and such, always paid on time, they wouldn't do anything for them. Dollar is number one for AT&T, as with any company, but their practices are kind of screwy, you are at the mercy of whomever you speak to. I got lucky I got a noob. He wasn't burned out yet and I was very patient and nice to him, he genuinely wanted to help. If you get someone that's been there for years, they've been long hardened and are difficult to deal with - they just want to meet their stats and get their shift over with. Call center location can also have something to do with it, people are different in different areas. I would have customers call up, ask which call center I was located and hang up if it wasn't the one they wanted. Then again, I would have people ask which call center I was located at wanting to kill me, too... Anyway... The people don't generally don't care what's right, it depends on how you deal with them, you have to kill them with kindness, you're at their mercy, not really AT&T's. I would still fight for that full credit, too, but kill them with kindness. Customer care can credit more than collections can, and are more apt to hand it out. If you have to go through Warranty for it, that one's generally alot harder, they tend to be a pain in the arse.
I got Warranty to credit me $50 bucks today for a battery which I had to order through the site and they reimbursed me since they couldn't obtain one for me. One day soon hopefully I'll be using my Tilt 2, it sure is a purty paper weight right now.
I'm actually waiting for the Tilt 2.
I'm on the 4th FUZE, and the last time I spoke to them. They said the next time I run into an issue, they should be able to swap out the FUZE for another phone.
I'm still having the same issue with the 4th Fuze, tons of dropped calls.
I'm holding off calling because I really want the Tilt 2. From what I have been told by people on this forum, and the people at AT&T usually the excahnge group gets refurb phones in about 30 days after the release date.
Now the confusing part is... would the release date be the 8th, when the phone hit the Premiere site, or the 18th when it hit the retail channels.
I'm waiting patiently...
Well if i was at&t i wouldn't have to worry about any XBM until 20 days after the release date. I would go by the 8th one b/c if ppl who had there tilt 2 for more then 30 days and have a warranty issue with them at&t would have to switch them out since it is past the 30 day period and under the 1 yr warranty. I would wait a lil longer to be on the safe side unelss your happy with gettin another fuze.
la0xboix7o4 said:
Well if i was at&t i wouldn't have to worry about any XBM until 20 days after the release date. I would go by the 8th one b/c if ppl who had there tilt 2 for more then 30 days and have a warranty issue with them at&t would have to switch them out since it is past the 30 day period and under the 1 yr warranty. I would wait a lil longer to be on the safe side unelss your happy with gettin another fuze.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm FUZE'd out.
Maybe i'll call the 10th and see if they have any TILT2 in stock.
I have had six (6) warranty exchange Fuzes over the last four months. This was for a legit warranty claim.
During my call last week the CSR suggested I get a Tilt2 instead of another Fuze.....then the CSR found out that the Tilt2 was not in stock. The CSR had no idea when the Tilt2 would be in stock and suggested calling each week on Wednesday.....why wednesday?
Anyway, A brand new Pure appeared at my door step today......I called ATT about the appearance of a new phone. Apparently, the CSR sent me the Pure as a replacement device.
I don't want this device and will be returning it for a Tilt2, when they have it in stock.
Molal said:
I have had six (6) warranty exchange Fuzes over the last four months. This was for a legit warranty claim.
During my call last week the CSR suggested I get a Tilt2 instead of another Fuze.....then the CSR found out that the Tilt2 was not in stock. The CSR had no idea when the Tilt2 would be in stock and suggested calling each week on Wednesday.....why wednesday?
Anyway, A brand new Pure appeared at my door step today......I called ATT about the appearance of a new phone. Apparently, the CSR sent me the Pure as a replacement device.
I don't want this device and will be returning it for a Tilt2, when they have it in stock.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you called today (wednesday)?
g2tl said:
Have you called today (wednesday)?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If your phone that you want is not in stock they will send you whatever that is close to it.