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tired of this

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Can I have it?

First off you are in the wrong section
Second, I personally love my android phones. I don't exactly know why you are having speed issues... have you tried cursorsence? I installed it yesterday and I love it. There should be an overclock app in the market that could increase performance. Past that I'm not too sure of the problem.

If you're using MyHero you might as well sell your phone to someone smarter.

Im tired of thinking there are people like you in the world that think everything they want is the way it is. Spoiled little brats like yourself who know nothing of anything outside your little world where your handed everything in life or you cry and make everyone aware of it so you get the attention.
So.. your tired of not knowing what your doing when everyone else seems tobe fine? Well, were tired of people like you coming into our forums to whine about things that make no sense and to demand things completely outlandish.
Noone here is here for YOU. So please.. I beg you, find a new hobby, because this one seems a bit to high out of your reach. Maybe try coloring books?
Oh.. and you say the touch keyboards are so slow... You do understand that "predictive text" doesnt mean it knows what you are going to type before you do right? lol

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I do wish my magic was as fast as an iphone, but I think it is a little slower is because of multitasking and the keyboard is slow at times

ichijin said:
I do wish my magic was as fast as an iphone, but I think it is a little slower is because of multitasking and the keyboard is slow at times
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Try SuperD 1.6 or 1.4

aotiko said:
@crypysmoker
How exactly is the world tired of people who don't like overrated products? Maybe the world is tired of people like you who love mediocrity. It is literally impossible for you people to not have speed issues. Every single person here has complained about it so dont make it seem like you "figured it all out". Even brand new android phones are reviewed as slow. And having the solution to root your phone to make it at a tolerable speed isnt acceptable for buying a phone for $500.
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What he means is no body force you to get this device.
If there is something else you like better go get it and leave this place.
I don't even want to begin guessing what "Even brand new android phones are reviewed as slow" means. Because if you're reffering to the Droid and Nexus One you could not be ANY FARTHER from the truth.
You have no facts, you say rooting is the only way to speed up a phone which is clearly wrong.
Why would people want to rip you a new one. You're a troll.

I agree in some way with you aotiko, fortunately my magic only cost's me 170€ without any contract otherwise for 500$ i had gone for an iphone.
typing some times is reallt slow, i'm on the snd word and the android is still writing the first (i'm now using the 2.1 and it is much better).
multi touch sucks, multi tasking is horrible because everything gets slower! (this was on my original 1.5, 2.1 i'm using since today so I still don't have an opinion)
keyboard is not as precise as iphone is (better on 2.0 too, the vibrate on is working much better).
battery life isn't worst but it is not good.
And what bugs me is that apple with a cpu with same velocity as magic done a f*cking fast phone with the 3gs! even with multi tasks on after jailbreak is is much faster, and as I've said CPU have the same speed as magic!
What hct and all other brands do is just increasing cpu speed, don't worry about sW optimisation and that is not good.
It looks like what intel and AMD done in the past in the pentium generation, more cpu clock, better. And it finally come to an end when problems with heat and stuff like that appear.
In the overall I still like my magic, but I won't if i had paid 500$!
just my 2 cents

aotiko said:
I have an HTC Magic 32A and i'm sick of it. It's so slow I don't even like using it anymore. I try all the roms that people claim are "EXTREMELY FAST!!!" and they are STILL slow. The scrolling on text messages, in a browser, or even in menus is very jittery. Android users are always ripping on iphones how they can't multitask until you jailbreak them but people root android phones to make them usably fast which isn't even that helpful. I don't see how I can possibly be doing anything wrong. Does everyone here secretly not enjoy their phones and that's why they are always here to find a ROM that they can actually use? I tell everyone I love it but I really don't. The keyboard is always behind in typing, even in a store on a brand new phone. It really seems like Google released android in a very very very early beta stage just so they won't fall behind in market share.
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Blow it out your ass!
Seriously, this forum is literally full of satisfied Android phone owners! If you are not satisfied with your phone, talk the store that sold it to you. Stop whining here.
My two cents...

cursordroid said:
Blow it out your ass!
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I think it would be better if I sacrifice myself and take his phone, since he doesn't like it !!!

is this a 10 year old boys conversation?
it looks like one.
com one guys! people have the right to their opinion, respect that and just don't act like an asshole(s)

MMartins said:
is this a 10 year old boys conversation?
it looks like one.
com one guys! people have the right to their opinion, respect that and just don't act like an asshole(s)
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Yes people are entitled to their opinion. But when someone comes here criticizing the work of these wonderful devs and making baseless arguments. They should leave.
Get an iPhone, and don't come back here. Simple as that.

I hope you are not talking about me!
I've not critized any one's work! we have were underfull devs no doubts about that!
but people can say what do work good and don't.
Most speed problems are not related to the devs but actually to the SO.
so please read carfully before start complaining.
Is iphone perfect? NO
is android perfect? NO
as i've said I love my android but for me iphone 3gs is faster with no doubts (NOT said better)
i will try my hero rom, as my girlfriend's hero with original rom, rotates faster, zoom faster than my 2.1 eclair rom.

MMartins said:
I hope you are not talking about me!
I've not critized any one's work! we have were underfull devs no doubts about that!
but people can say what do work good and don't.
Most speed problems are not related to the devs but actually to the SO.
so please read carfully before start complaining.
Is iphone perfect? NO
is android perfect? NO
as i've said I love my android but for me iphone 3gs is faster with no doubts (NOT said better)
i will try my hero rom, as my girlfriend's hero with original rom, rotates faster, zoom faster than my 2.1 eclair rom.
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I'm not talking about you. Read the OP. Ungrateful for the for of these devs that do their work for simply donations.

i paid 200$ + 35$ activation fee and regret it everyday.
yes i have a stable and "fast" rom and i know how to use my root/sd card and all the settings, but id rather not have to go thru all the non sense.
if i could do it all over again i would have either waited for the android development to get to where we need it or just went with an iphone.

ALL this arguments just because JAVA.

BTW, iPhone processor's frequency is a bit higher.
HTC Magic is a kickass phone and I love it. It's smooth enough for me and I'm sure 2.1 will be faster.

darvo said:
BTW, iPhone processor's frequency is a bit higher.
HTC Magic is a kickass phone and I love it. It's smooth enough for me and I'm sure 2.1 will be faster.
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Yea im sure too. Cant wait for the Nexus1 to be released in Denmark though

[Q] Cyanogen?

Hi, can someone explain exactly what Cyanogen mods are all about? Are they the premium development and what makes them special? Sorry for such a simple question but I am relatively new to the Android scene Thanks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyanogenMod
try it and decide for yourself if you like it.

I only had my Nexus s for 48 hours....I will have to build up to flashing a ROM, I am rooted though I wanted to know how the real terms performance is different when running Cyanogen.

Cyanogen historically is the best of the best custom ROM with tons of extra, very useful features. Cyan on my nexus one is just awesome and brings so many extra things needed.

performace difference.....not much with the nexus s so far...I use it for the extra features. dropdown bar widgets, two slider lockscreen, incogneto mode in the browser, and other such tweaks. I have used it for so long that i forget what is different about it until i go back to a stock firmware....then i realize why i like it so much. but that's me. The nexus s is nice because it doesn't have another skin on it. i'm just not a fan of them. CM is essential for me on the incredible and my evo. i don't care how much people praise sense i just don't like it. i had a g1 then a nexus one.....sense was fun when it was called rosie and was released on the g1 as an alternate theme....even then it slowed things down.
edit: if anyone says they get 200 more points in quadrant benchmarks that isn't a real world performace increase. you can't feel 200 points....now the ext4 enhancements, those you can feel.

Thank you for all your replies, very useful. I will be sure to try Cyanogen when I have the confidence to make the switch

Petition For Sense 3.0

http://www.groubal.com/bring-htc-se...-such-as-the-desire-hd-and-others/#signatures
This is a community petition to request Sense 3.0 on older devices, I hope that we get a lot of people to sign this petition, please spread the word!

I hate Sense with a passion. But I will sign the patition because sense 3.0 is kinda cool and I plan on porting a 3.0 rom.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

Saw a review on the sensation and they said that sense 3.0 offers a minimal update and is not anything you would expect as an update after such a long time. It's pretty much going from Froyo to Gingerbread... barely anything different just little noticeable things. Point is I wouldn't get your hopes up about the quality of 3.0.

2leaponover1 said:
Saw a review on the sensation and they said that sense 3.0 offers a minimal update and is not anything you would expect as an update after such a long time. It's pretty much going from Froyo to Gingerbread... barely anything different just little noticeable things. Point is I wouldn't get your hopes up about the quality of 3.0.
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I disagree. Sense 3.0 is a huge update over previous versions of Sense. Coming from a Desire HD port, 3.0 has a lot of improvements and cool features.

used sense 3.0, then tried to switch back to stock. impossible.

TeeJay3800 said:
I disagree. Sense 3.0 is a huge update over previous versions of Sense. Coming from a Desire HD port, 3.0 has a lot of improvements and cool features.
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Apparently Engadget and another review from some dudes in UK disagree with you.

It does offer some new features and UI designs.
Sent from my myTouch 4G

2leaponover1 said:
Apparently Engadget and another review from some dudes in UK disagree with you.
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Is that surprising? The pros/cons of the various UIs have always been debated. Clearly a lot of people agree with me because, as I'm sure you've noticed, Sense has quite a following.

TeeJay3800 said:
Is that surprising? The pros/cons of the various UIs have always been debated. Clearly a lot of people agree with me because, as I'm sure you've noticed, Sense has quite a following.
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You are mistaken at what I am saying. This is not sense bashing. THis is stating that the improvement to sense is lackluster after such a long time between updates. I like sense and have always been a supporter of it. My point is sense 3.0 is not a big jump over 2.1 and definitely not enough to make me want to buy a new phone just because it has 3.0.
Both articles I read eliminated the debate on Sense Vs. Touchwiz Vs. blah blah blah. It was purely a review on the merit of the update.

2leaponover1 said:
Apparently Engadget and another review from some dudes in UK disagree with you.
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Engadget: "Is it iphone? If yes ----> 5/5 If no ---> 3/5"

itmustbejj said:
Engadget: "Is it iphone? If yes ----> 5/5 If no ---> 3/5"
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That's pretty accurate. Engadget wasn't impressed with Sense 3.0? Oh, well it must suck then.

2leaponover1 said:
You are mistaken at what I am saying. This is not sense bashing. THis is stating that the improvement to sense is lackluster after such a long time between updates. I like sense and have always been a supporter of it. My point is sense 3.0 is not a big jump over 2.1 and definitely not enough to make me want to buy a new phone just because it has 3.0.
Both articles I read eliminated the debate on Sense Vs. Touchwiz Vs. blah blah blah. It was purely a review on the merit of the update.
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if you've ran the virtuous fusion rom you would see that sense 3.0 does offer some pretty big changes over sense 2.1, so maybe quit reading biased reviews and start experiencing the stuff for yourself?

itmustbejj said:
Engadget: "Is it iphone? If yes ----> 5/5 If no ---> 3/5"
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This. BGR would lower the score to a 2/5.
I've run plenty of Sense roms as far back as the old Hero roms on my G1, Sense 3.0 doesn't fundamentally change the ui, but it does add quite a bit of features that improve it, from the active lockscreen to the notification toggles for wifi/bluetooth/etc. I'm really liking Virtuous Fusion.

kitsunisan said:
This. BGR would lower the score to a 2/5.
I've run plenty of Sense roms as far back as the old Hero roms on my G1, Sense 3.0 doesn't fundamentally change the ui, but it does add quite a bit of features that improve it, from the active lockscreen to the notification toggles for wifi/bluetooth/etc. I'm really liking Virtuous Fusion.
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+1. Sense 3.0 rocks. Makes me forget about ever having owned an iPhone. And if I want to remember, I'll just run MIUI which is still way better!

I just had to chime in here for a min. I have a sensation and my wife has a mt4g. New sense and old sense. The differences are big enough. Just set them side by side and look.

There is no point to petition for Sense 3.0
The Stock ROM is Laggy and couldn't believe I used it for 3 months before unlocking/Rooting my phone.
There are better options Virtuous ROM is Sense 3.0 and can't wait to see Virtuous Unity.
Personally I actually like 2.1 Sense (minus the lagg), just miss it. Sense 3.0 just feels way too different and was a bit let down. It actually turned me off from getting the Sensation.
The new devs on the Virtuous is really exciting and can't wait to see what they cook up.

Thread says unity is up now
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

No we need a petition to remove sense all together. Lmao. Vanilla Android is the best way forward.
Sent from my CyanogenMod Powered, Warp speed edition phone...Don't be Jealious!

How about just make it consumer choice and just make the warranty not void when loading a rom of our choice... Used to be a big aosp believer but recently fell in love with sense, just not mysense. Even learned to love miui. I use all 3 in rotation throughout the week. Htc is starting to support and encourage devs and the community. Fix the warranty restriction with rooting and we shall all be peachy
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Vanilla Android for the win.

The Sensation is turning out to be a dud

I have been reading over the Sensation forum and it appears to have even more bugs than the G2X. What the hell are these manufacturers doing? Also, has anyone seen the video reviews of the Sensation. Theres no reason for all that lag in a high end Android device these days. Our G2X appears much faster.
Lastly, it looks as if HTC really **** the bed with the new version of Sense. Samsung has made positive changes to TouchWiz over the last year while Sense has done nothing but add useless eye candy that hogs up system resources. TouchWiz is now the least intrusive manufacture UI and I applaud Samsung for toning it down.
The Sensation is definitely off of my wish list now. Glad I went with the G2X and possibly the SGSII.

People like sense because it looks easy and pretty. Stock android does not look pretty in comparison. The average user does not care about system resources.
A majority of the people do not buy a g2 for stock android they got it for a keyboard. Most people did not get a g2x for stock android they got it for a larger screen and maybe dual core goodness because it sounds good. Most buyers don't care about quadrant scores and custom roms they want fast large pretty looking eye candy and Facebook.
I'd bet the number of users on this site don't even account for half of 1% of the total android users worldwide.
G2x with faux AOSP and faux orange kernel. [email protected] 5107 quadrant.

+1 awesome post. I agree 100%.
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I think most phones out now have nearly as many issues being complained about on the forums. I haven't noticed any major lag in sensation vids except a couple where they show it being booted up. Every phone I've owned so far had had at least SOME lag to it, especially when booting.
Except for the 1gb of useable internal storage, I really like the phone. My wifes mt4g and my old g2 didn't have much of an issue with that much space.
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I have to agree with the post above. I didn't get the phone for vanilla android. I got it for dual core power, the 8mp camera with autofocus and flash, the 4 inch screen, and HDMI out. like I said, the hardware is so polished, but the software is not. and some stuff out there doesn't even work right, like the toggle widgets on beautiful widgets.

thats what people keep saying but
tackleberry said:
People like sense because it looks easy and pretty. Stock android does not look pretty in comparison. The average user does not care about system resources.
A majority of the people do not buy a g2 for stock android they got it for a keyboard. Most people did not get a g2x for stock android they got it for a larger screen and maybe dual core goodness because it sounds good. Most buyers don't care about quadrant scores and custom roms they want fast large pretty looking eye candy and Facebook.
I'd bet the number of users on this site don't even account for half of 1% of the total android users worldwide.
G2x with faux AOSP and faux orange kernel. [email protected] 5107 quadrant.
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i hear this less than 1/2 of 1% all the time. i find it hard to believe that htc would come out and say they are opening bootloaders to please 1/2 of 1% of users.
while this may be true with all android phones i think this % is low for the g line of tmobile phones. and other high tech ones.
I agree though many like sense because its pretty. thats why there are so many copycat clock/weather apps out so we can get it without the rest of the bloat.
i havent had a phone with any of them coming from the droid to the g2x both stock.
but from everything i have read it seems that the only one i see with complaints of causing serious lag with the phones is motoblur.
I did find the perfect phone finally!
its the one that comes out just after the one you bought.

This should make you guys grin...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4416/...8x60-phones-htc-sensation-4g-and-htc-evo-3d/2

eagle1967 said:
I did find the perfect phone finally!
its the one that comes out just after the one you bought.
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Or the one that doesn't come out...the TMO SGSII

BarryH_GEG said:
This should make you guys grin...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4416/...8x60-phones-htc-sensation-4g-and-htc-evo-3d/2
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That's highly amusing - our "outdated" Tegra 2 phones running a whole 200MHz slower than the Sensation and Evo 3D - spank the hell out of both and that's not even with Gingerbread...

I have to disagree with the ideas here. I bet a large percentage of iPhone users are jailbroken.
Same with android. I know so many people with androids now and I've been asked if I can root and flash an updated rom for them.
These are random house wives and joe smoes. Android is known for its customization and people take advantage of that.
As far as the sensation, I wrote it off my list a while ago. Too many negatives with just hardware specs let alone what software bugs are found. Still no root or unlocked bootloaders.
I'm following the sgs2 and they seem to be making some headway. Root and custom CWM kernels. I don't think they have much on the custom roms yet. Ouch though, their methods are complicated ones. Seems like a pain.
I don't think I'd trade my G2x for a SGS2 but it would be a first choice if the G2x was magically unavailable.
G2x CM7.1 style - Android 2.3.4

bluemoon737 said:
Or the one that doesn't come out...the TMO SGSII
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...but Samsung Hercules (Infuse with dual-core CPU) is coming.

Do you remember I made a thread few days ago after I tested Sensation, but that one I complained for the poor LCD (SLCD please).

I totally switched from the Cliq 2 to the G2x mainly based off having Vanilla Android, the Cliq was my first android phone, I had it for a month, and just couldn't stand motoblur.

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...but Samsung Hercules (Infuse with dual-core CPU) is coming.
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Too big!! The SGSII not coming to TMO makes no sense.

I got this phone because I knew I can do so much to it, I can't lie the UI setting HTC offers is nice but I look for more than the interface and such, Iam interested in the processor, the advantages of the rooting process, and the speed of the phone. Besides we can still make our phones look nice with custom roms and themes so Iam happy with my g2x
TMobile G2X
ROM Version: Cyanogenmod7

Just because people ask for root it does not mean they should have it because they have no clue.
My estimate is probably very low but you get the idea.
G2x with faux AOSP and faux orange kernel. [email protected] 5107 quadrant.

jrwingate6 said:
I have been reading over the Sensation forum and it appears to have even more bugs than the G2X. What the hell are these manufacturers doing? Also, has anyone seen the video reviews of the Sensation. Theres no reason for all that lag in a high end Android device these days. Our G2X appears much faster.
Lastly, it looks as if HTC really **** the bed with the new version of Sense. Samsung has made positive changes to TouchWiz over the last year while Sense has done nothing but add useless eye candy that hogs up system resources. TouchWiz is now the least intrusive manufacture UI and I applaud Samsung for toning it down.
The Sensation is definitely off of my wish list now. Glad I went with the G2X and possibly the SGSII.
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-1 ... Sorry - too many quality control issues with the G2x ...

I'm tired of hearing how dominant the iphone4 is , i love this g2x, doesn't the g2x blow the iphone4 away? Did anyone have an iphone4 before? Judging by those specs, definitely looks like it.

Mikeglongo said:
I'm tired of hearing how dominant the iphone4 is , i love this g2x, doesn't the g2x blow the iphone4 away? Did anyone have an iphone4 before? Judging by those specs, definitely looks like it.
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You cant really compare them directly because Android and iOS offer different user experiences. They're both good devices but iOS obviously isnt for everyone and neither is Android.

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-1 ... Sorry - too many quality control issues with the G2x ...
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In all reality, there aren't that many issues. Minor screen bleed and wonky battery driver. As long as you the screen bleed isn't bad, the phone is pretty solid. The battery driver is being fixed by the great devs over in the Android Development section.
At least the GPS isn't worthless, or the cellular screwed up, or the bootloader encrypted, or limited touch screen multi-touch.
When put into perspective other other phones and their issues, the G2x is a pretty solid phone. Nothing a little polish from XDA can't make shine.

Samsung Lockscreen on Inspire?

I'm in love with the Touchwiz 4.0 U/I. I'm wondering if it's possible to get that lockscreen on my rooted inspire with CM7?
I bought widget locker, and don't care for it, i've also tried magic locker and didnt care for that either.

MIUI has it
Sent from my HTC Inspire 4G using XDA App

Is MIUI a theme or a rom? I'm new to rooting and rom. I just know i couldn't stand Sense and wanted as close to stock android as possible so i got CM7.
Is MIUI better than CM7?

MikeIsCore said:
Is MIUI a theme or a rom? I'm new to rooting and rom. I just know i couldn't stand Sense and wanted as close to stock android as possible so i got CM7.
Is MIUI better than CM7?
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ROM
MIUI
Is it better? That's personal preference - try them both and make up your mind

MikeIsCore said:
Is MIUI a theme or a rom? I'm new to rooting and rom. I just know i couldn't stand Sense and wanted as close to stock android as possible so i got CM7.
Is MIUI better than CM7?
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LOL then why get an HTC product.. Just saying

shugga101 said:
LOL then why get an HTC product.. Just saying
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My exact thoughts!!!
try absolution if you're into CM7...you won't regret it. I promise. Do you like bacon?

shugga101 said:
LOL then why get an HTC product.. Just saying
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Well I love HTC Design and build quality since the HTC Touch Diamond back in 2007/8.
Also February of this year when I got the Inspire there weren't many android options on AT&T. I wasn't getting the outdated Aria or Captivate, I hated the current iteration of Motoblur on the Atrix, and I didn't like Touchwiz 3 on the Infuse that had yet to come out. Best option for me at the time was the Inspire because I couldn't take the iPhone anymore.
I just happen to not be a big fan of U/I skins in general - aside from the new Touchwiz 4.

MikeIsCore said:
Well I love HTC Design and build quality since the HTC Touch Diamond back in 2007/8.
Also February of this year when I got the Inspire there weren't many android options on AT&T. I wasn't getting the outdated Aria or Captivate, I hated the current iteration of Motoblur on the Atrix, and I didn't like Touchwiz 3 on the Infuse that had yet to come out. Best option for me at the time was the Inspire because I couldn't take the iPhone anymore.
I just happen to not be a big fan of U/I skins in general - aside from the new Touchwiz 4.
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Well like stated before, if you don't like sense getting an HTC phone was not your best choice however since you made the choice and lucky for you the Inspire has a lot of development, you're not totally boned since you don't like the stock sense feel. Again, I recommend and stand by any of the Collective team's work (Absolution and BBmod). MIUI is nice too but reminds me of an iPhone too much so if I really wanted that type of look, I would have gotten an iPhone (not trying to insult anyone, just my opinion so any of the MIUI fans take exception to that, sorrrrry!!) Best bet try all of the AOSP ROMs and decide for yourself which one you like the most!

Isn't the point of android being able to create your own environment that suits you? Isn't that why we have such a bevvy of ROMs to choose from? I'm on the same boat with the OP, loving HTC's build quality but sense doesn't suit me 100%. I've just recently re-installed LauncherPro and I'm enjoying the environment much better.
MMM-BACONSTRIPS said:
if you don't like sense getting an HTC phone was not your best choice.
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MMM-BACONSTRIPS said:
MIUI is nice too but reminds me of an iPhone too much so if I really wanted that type of look, I would have gotten an iPhone.
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Yet you recommend ROMs that strip sense from the phone. Why didn't you just get a Nexus phone?
I'd say that Touchwiz has more in common with the look/feel of an iPhone than MIUI has by far. MIUI has a very nice, clean feel to it and adds a lot of elements of customization to the table. I really enjoyed using it while I had my old Captivate, more so than CM7. Right now I'm enjoying Android Revolution + LauncherPro since this offers the most flexibility for my use. I'd say try out MIUI and see if you like it.

Off subject but you sir have an awesome Avatar! CoCa!
blanksuspect said:
Isn't the point of android being able to create your own environment that suits you? Isn't that why we have such a bevvy of ROMs to choose from? I'm on the same boat with the OP, loving HTC's build quality but sense doesn't suit me 100%. I've just recently re-installed LauncherPro and I'm enjoying the environment much better.
Yet you recommend ROMs that strip sense from the phone. Why didn't you just get a Nexus phone?
I'd say that Touchwiz has more in common with the look/feel of an iPhone than MIUI has by far. MIUI has a very nice, clean feel to it and adds a lot of elements of customization to the table. I really enjoyed using it while I had my old Captivate, more so than CM7. Right now I'm enjoying Android Revolution + LauncherPro since this offers the most flexibility for my use. I'd say try out MIUI and see if you like it.
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is touchwiz a rom?

Here is a link to Miui locker. It has several lock screens. Puzzle for sure. I bet it has the touch wiz lock. Have not searched far enough...but you can
http://app.miui.com/index_en.html
Sent from a phone.

psupernak said:
is touchwiz a rom?
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*sigh* NO. TOUCHWIZ, just like any other manufacturer UI, IS CLOSED-SOURCE. IN OTHER WORDS. NO.

blanksuspect said:
Isn't the point of android being able to create your own environment that suits you? Isn't that why we have such a bevvy of ROMs to choose from? I'm on the same boat with the OP, loving HTC's build quality but sense doesn't suit me 100%. I've just recently re-installed LauncherPro and I'm enjoying the environment much better.
Yet you recommend ROMs that strip sense from the phone. Why didn't you just get a Nexus phone?
I'd say that Touchwiz has more in common with the look/feel of an iPhone than MIUI has by far. MIUI has a very nice, clean feel to it and adds a lot of elements of customization to the table. I really enjoyed using it while I had my old Captivate, more so than CM7. Right now I'm enjoying Android Revolution + LauncherPro since this offers the most flexibility for my use. I'd say try out MIUI and see if you like it.
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My good friend, I think you've misread or misunderstood what I was going at. The OP states he doesn't like sense. My obvious step in logical thinking is, "why get a sense based phone then?" I mean follow your own advice and tell the OP to get a nexus prime since he has explicitly stated he doesn't much like sense.
You're right I do recommend to him CM7 based ROMs because he has stated he doesn't like sense. Why would I advocate or recommend sense based ROMs to a user who has stated he doesn't like sense. I don't mind sense, I actually enjoy the U.I. I don't like that its a resource hog though. So I use CM7 based ROMs, not out of distaste for sense ROMs, just out of lack of customization in most of the sense based ROMs. From time to time I do use sense based ROMs ( BD or ARHD). I've just gotten to know the devs and users of the collective and have a hard time leaving them. Great guys/girls and some of the friendliest people you're gonna meet on XDA.
Like I said, my opinion on MIUI, if you took exception..nothing I can do there friend. That's an inner struggle you'll have to square away. MIUI is a great ROM, never said it wasn't, just reminds me of an iPhone. Plan and simple. My opinion. You're entitled to yours.