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so I have this phone on ATT, and I switched from the atrix to this. I put the sim card from my atrix into this and i cant get anything above 100 kbps up, seems wayyy to slow...wondering if it has something to do with the throttling ATT did for the Atrix? I changed my phone on my online profile, but I don't know what else to do to get decent speeds...any ideas?
I dont believe the T-mobile nexus s supports At&t's 3g network. You're probably on edge
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I dont believe the T-mobile nexus s supports At&t's 3g network. You're probably on edge
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It's not the T-mobile version.... its the 9020A which works on ATT 3g.....
I hear that you will need to flash a new radio for the ATT version. I believe KD3 will help with your speed. Where did you get the NS?
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sl8125 said:
I hear that you will need to flash a new radio for the ATT version. I believe KD3 will help with your speed. Where did you get the NS?
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ebay, a little over a month ago
anyone have any solutions?
As stated above, flash a different radio such as KB3 or KD1 or something.
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My service bars are full but it has an "E" instead of 2g, 3g, or as I would prefer, 4g. Does anyone know if I will have to root my phone? Or what my limits are considering it is unlocked and working on T-Mobile?
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Im pretty sure you're gonna be stuck with Edge as in the bands are different for 3G and Hspa
I have a friend that has an Atrix 4g unlocked on T-Mobile, and he has claimed to have gotten a 4g signal in one fringe area. He said that it was very spotty at best but it worked. I suspect it was some kind or roam signal he caught, or he was delusional. But Edge is definitely the best you will get since the frequencies are different. There is no fix for that, it is a hardware thing.
Oh wow... that really sucks. Thanks for the answers though. What if I root it or that still wouldn't be able to help? Edge is pretty ****ty service for such a nice phone, which is why I got it... plus I got a hell of a deal on it lol
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Is Atrix 2 unlocked?
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Ashley88 said:
Oh wow... that really sucks. Thanks for the answers though. What if I root it or that still wouldn't be able to help? Edge is pretty ****ty service for such a nice phone, which is why I got it... plus I got a hell of a deal on it lol
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I have heard the same as lilhaiti & JRW 28. Tmobile has different frequencies and the best you're gonna get with a non Tmobile phone is Edge. And as said prior, it's a hardware thing, not software.
Yes its unlocked
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How did you unlock your atrix 2? ive tried dang near everything even a paid site.
T-Mobile will not get 4g. The hardware does not support the signal.band. sorry I had this issue on my hd2. I am att and I never got 3g. That's why I got this phone. Sorry to bring the bad news
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Atrix 2 Unlocked No Signal
I have successfully removed the network lock on an Atrix 2 but gets absolutely no signal/emergency calls only with a T-Mobile sim. When I search for Network providers only AT&T shows. I was wondering if the radio was locked for some reason. Anyone else had this problem?
(For those of you who like to throw out the simplest ideas: Yes T-Mobile has service in the area. Yes: I have done a reset and chaged sims etc..)
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I have successfully removed the network lock on an Atrix 2 but gets absolutely no signal/emergency calls only with a T-Mobile sim. When I search for Network providers only AT&T shows. I was wondering if the radio was locked for some reason. Anyone else had this problem?
(For those of you who like to throw out the simplest ideas: Yes T-Mobile has service in the area. Yes: I have done a reset and chaged sims etc..)
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Have you set the Tmobile apn (acsess point names)
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Have you set the Tmobile apn (acsess point names)
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That was my thought too. What plan are you on? I read that you can use their 30 dallar unlimited plan when you activate a new sim card.
I still have the hope that at some point after the BL gets unlocked we might get a hacked radio kernel of sorts that will allow use of t mobile bands..... The global 2 did something like this to allow use of t mobile...... One can hope.....
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I have a friend that has an Atrix 4g unlocked on T-Mobile, and he has claimed to have gotten a 4g signal in one fringe area. He said that it was very spotty at best but it worked. I suspect it was some kind or roam signal he caught, or he was delusional. But Edge is definitely the best you will get since the frequencies are different. There is no fix for that, it is a hardware thing.
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You can get 4G on T-Mobile, but only in certain areas as of right now. Pretty soon though, after T-Mobile starts utilizing the frequencies gained from the deal going through, you should start seeing more 4G in more places. But we have to wait and see if it actually happens.
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You can get 4G on T-Mobile, but only in certain areas as of right now. Pretty soon though, after T-Mobile starts utilizing the frequencies gained from the deal going through, you should start seeing more 4G in more places. But we have to wait and see if it actually happens.
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Idk that the "deal" will allow 4G. Remember tmo and att use different frequencies
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Ashley88 said:
My service bars are full but it has an "E" instead of 2g, 3g, or as I would prefer, 4g. Does anyone know if I will have to root my phone? Or what my limits are considering it is unlocked and working on T-Mobile?
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PS. The 4G HSPA is fake 4G, it is just an enhanced 3G connection. So in reality Hspa = 3G
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I live in Vietnam, and I have a problem with Vinaphone network, added APN, but can only use HSPA (4G icon).
If I switch to GPRS (E icon), it says connected, but I cannot ping pass.
Other network (Viettel) is normal.
Even if the bootloader gets unlocked I still believe it would be a hardware issue not an issue of the radio software. They use the same 2g frequency so you can still get edge, but when it comes to 3g they operate on different frequencies. Some phones are made with the hardware for both frequencies though. My Samsung Vibrant (Tmobile phone) actually had the hardware to be used on AT&T 3g! The radio software was an issue unfortunately and it didn't switch well between 2g and 3g, tried all sorts of radio software but had no luck back then.
From what people have experienced by taking this phone to AT&T though, its looking like the Atrix 2 doesn't have the right hardware for the Tmobile 3g frequency.
I'm not one to say something is impossible though. Who knows.. maybe through the failed merger of AT&T and TMobile, TMobile was somehow able to gain access to some of AT&T's 3g towers (doubtful), since they did gain coverage through the breakup agreement after the merger failed.
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Idk that the "deal" will allow 4G. Remember tmo and att use different frequencies
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In certain markets, they will get part of the frequency that AT&T uses for 4G. I forgot what bands exactly, but if you do a Google search, you should get more info.
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I'm using unlocked Atrix 2 on T-Mobile. And I did get 4G signal when I was in downtown Bellevue, WA. I didn't believe so I ran few speedtests, best I got on Download was 1501kbps, and 1416kbps Upload, and it wasn't roaming. So yes, it works in few places right now.
Hi, I have been reading some posts in the Radio thread reporting that they are using the T-mobile Modem. It was unclear whether they had it working on the T-mobile network or just using the modem on the ATT network.
Is there anyone here using the Galaxy S II Skyrocket on T-mobiles 1700Mhz AWS 3G band and getting internet and sms and everything no problem?
I just want to make sure before I go out and purchase one for a lot of money and not have it working.
Yup I believe that the Skyrocket and the TMO SII are the same phone or at least have the same radio
Yes, you can use the t-mobile modem on the skyrocket and connect to t-mobile 3g. There are people on xda that have done this and confirmed working. The modem chipsets are different though.
There is one thing though. The skyrocket modem (mdm9200) supports 700/1700/2100 on LTE which is the same frequency that t-mobile uses on 3G. My concern is that although it will work since it is the same frequency, the skyrocket modem uses the 700/1700 band for LTE and not 3G, but 2100 for 3G and LTE. The t-mobile sgs2 uses the mdm8220 which supports 1700/2100 for 3G. I don't know enough about the particular power/design differences to say if this is a safe thing to do for extended periods of time. I heard of a few people having problems with their modems after flashing tmob modem on their skyrocket. Don't know if it's connected to the hardware differences.. just a caution. Make sure you have warranty or insurance coverage before you try
I'm going to buy the phone secondhand and thus I will not have warranty or any return policy hence I am worried. I wanted to make sure that it works before I go out and purchase the phone.
Were the people having problems the people who were still on the ATT network? I plan on using the phone strictly on the T-mobile network which I hear is also going to be putting out 1900Mhz 3G in certain markets due to the failed ATT merger and I happen to be in one of those large markets.
I have seen this question more than once but never an answer to why...with the two phones being nearly identical, what is the draw causing some tmo users to want the 727 over the 989?
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I'm going to buy the phone secondhand and thus I will not have warranty or any return policy hence I am worried. I wanted to make sure that it works before I go out and purchase the phone.
Were the people having problems the people who were still on the ATT network? I plan on using the phone strictly on the T-mobile network which I hear is also going to be putting out 1900Mhz 3G in certain markets due to the failed ATT merger and I happen to be in one of those large markets.
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Around here it is cheaper and also I hope that the phone will work with non-smartphone data plans on T-mobile because T-mobile locks out their own smartphones to certain data plans.
As I've said, others have reported it to be working. However, I don't think there are enough people doing this to give a clear idea if the tmob modem is having any adverse effects on the skyrocket modem. Maybe open a poll thread to get a better idea?
One of my customers came in with an unlocked and rooted sky rocket, any idea as to how to get it off our edge?
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Makes sense! Thanks!
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Around here it is cheaper and also I hope that the phone will work with non-smartphone data plans on T-mobile because T-mobile locks out their own smartphones to certain data plans.
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Does anyone know where can I flash this modem? And how to do it plz
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One of my customers came in with an unlocked and rooted sky rocket, any idea as to how to get it off our edge?
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This is for everyone.
IT HAS TO RUN A TMOBILE SGS II MODEM. The radio has the capability, but the modem.bin for the SR doesn't activate AWS/2100. Flashing a T-Mobile modem will fix that though.
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So do I just flash. A T-Mobile ROM
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So do I just flash. A T-Mobile ROM
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Just beware of the sbl.bin (Boot Loader). Do NOT flash the sbl for the Hercules on the Skyrocket. Everything else appears to function the same.
(I've been researching if I should get a Skyrocket or Hercules)
So just flash a tmo rom?
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KingDavid63 said:
So just flash a tmo rom?
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MODEM
just flash a TMobile MODEM
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MODEM
just flash a TMobile MODEM
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I've flashed a bunch of different things and am no noob at anything but I don't think I've ever seen atmobile modem as a flashable zip...
Kingdavid you working here
KingDavid63 said:
I've flashed a bunch of different things and am no noob at anything but I don't think I've ever seen atmobile modem as a flashable zip...
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so dont flash one in CWM....flash it in ODIN or HEIMDALL....
i dont know, since i dont keep up with the TMobile dev but i would bet something is over there...
jesus...
i just went over to TMOBILE SGS2 DEV section and what do you know, a thread called:
[RADIOS] CWM Flashable Modems
that didnt even involve a search....
reading and comprehension are a wonderful thing
Running on T-Mobile 3g pay by the day right now on Rogers s2 lte using the telus radio. I'll try to run some more tests tmr night with the tmo radios...but no guarantees.... vacation is tiring
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tom0927 said:
Running on T-Mobile 3g pay by the day right now on Rogers s2 lte using the telus radio. I'll try to run some more tests tmr night with the tmo radios...but no guarantees.... vacation is tiring
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So we're you able to test during your tiring vacation?
long story short i got a guy wanting to trade me a skyrocket for my xoom. he claims hes getting 3/4g data on this device using a tmo usa sim. possible? yes he has rooted it and its overclocked to 1.7mhz.
thoughts???
Anyone...
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What's your question, I don't even understand.
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trade and ill buy the skyrocket from u.
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trade and ill buy the skyrocket from u.
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lol id like to keep it if i can get 3/4g download and upload speeds on it with my tmo sim.
Yeah..just flash T-Mobile radio..though I've never gotten good upload speeds I range between 4 to 7 down when I'm on 3g..you won't get 4g.
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jamesd86 said:
Yeah..just flash T-Mobile radio..though I've never gotten good upload speeds I range between 4 to 7 down when I'm on 3g..you won't get 4g.
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is this phone THAT MUCH better than the att and tmobile branded galaxy s2?
The SR is capable of flying on TMO's WCDMA bands.. However its not as perfect as a T989 would be, but very usable. Biggest issue i've had with using it on tmo was the random drops of data. (Nothing major, just every once in a while it'd tank and I'd have to go to airplane mode and back out to get it going again)
To directly answer your question: Yes the Skyrocket can be made to function on Tmobile 3g/4g (non lte obviously)
It will require an unlock code though.
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The SR is capable of flying on TMO's WCDMA bands.. However its not as perfect as a T989 would be, but very usable. Biggest issue i've had with using it on tmo was the random drops of data. (Nothing major, just every once in a while it'd tank and I'd have to go to airplane mode and back out to get it going again)
To directly answer your question: Yes the Skyrocket can be made to function on Tmobile 3g/4g (non lte obviously)
It will require an unlock code though.
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y don't u try flashing the vk1 radio? then u basically have a t989
i got one for my fiance can you link me to a unlock site thats not very expensive. i also heard on tmobile prepaid it works great 5-7mbs thats good
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is this phone THAT MUCH better than the att and tmobile branded galaxy s2?
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No........this phone is not THAT MUCH BETTER than the S II. But you cannot get 4G with the S II. But many things about the S II are still very good or better than SkyR....starting from the processor - not its speed but its quality.
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No........this phone is not THAT MUCH BETTER than the S II. But you cannot get 4G with the S II. But many things about the S II are still very good or better than SkyR....starting from the processor - not its speed but its quality.
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S3 @ 1.5 beats exynos at 1.2 lol. S3 @ 1.2? Now that's a different story
I have a T-Mobile Pay As You Go plan so I am wondering if I bought a Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket and get it unlocked through eBay if I would be able to use it with my T-Mobile SIM card? I don't need the 4G LTE on it as I would just use my wireless Internet if I ever needed to get on the Internet. I use this phone mostly for texting, phone calls, and games. Do not use it for the 4G, 3G, etc.
Thanks for any and ALL help!
Oh and if I unlock the phone to use on T-Mobile do I need to root to flash any kernels, etc? Looked for answer to my question but was unable to find an answer.
ATT for the win jaja
Yes you do need a root to flash new kernels
Edit: and yes you can use it with any GSM provider if you get it unlocked hopes this answers your question
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Yes you do need a root to flash new kernels
Edit: and yes you can use it with any GSM provider if you get it unlocked hopes this answers your question
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Thank you so much for your answer! I appreciate it. What kernels would work the best and if I root it can I still get the OTA Official update of ICS when it gets released? I believe there is somewhere that will help me root it correct? THANKS again!
Awesome! Thanks for the info.
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Thank you so much for your answer! I appreciate it. What kernels would work the best and if I root it can I still get the OTA Official update of ICS when it gets released? I believe there is somewhere that will help me root it correct? THANKS again!
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Hi, As for my understanding, once you rooted, the OTA will stop working...
Below thread might be helpful for you regarding what is needed to use SR on Tmobile:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1507825
I was looking at running the ATT Samsung Captivate on T-Mobile for a friend.
I found out the Captivate would only run at "Edge" speeds on T-Mobile. Not 3G or 4G.
Might want to check to see if it would be the same for the Skyrocket.
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I was looking at running the ATT Samsung Captivate on T-Mobile for a friend.
I found out the Captivate would only run at "Edge" speeds on T-Mobile. Not 3G or 4G.
Might want to check to see if it would be the same for the Skyrocket.
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You are correct, ATT and tmobile have different bands in which their phones operate, so you will only get EDGE speeds at most. Also to clarify ATT's 3G data operates over 850/1900Mhz spectrum and tmobile 3G operates over 900/2100Mhz so you really can't use 3g/4g at all unless you go with another carrier like Straight Talk where they use tmobiles and ATT's towers so you recieve 3g on your smartphone. Good luck !
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You are correct, ATT and tmobile have different bands in which their phones operate, so you will only get EDGE speeds at most. Also to clarify ATT's 3G data operates over 850/1900Mhz spectrum and tmobile 3G operates over 900/2100Mhz so you really can't use 3g/4g at all unless you go with another carrier like Straight Talk where they use tmobiles and ATT's towers so you recieve 3g on your smartphone. Good luck !
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WOW! Thank you all for such much information, I LOVE this forum. As for the 3G honestly some may think I am crazy but I honestly don't care about the 3G/4G stuff. I use my phone for talking and texting, I never use the data plan. In fact I just don't have a data plan so it honestly don't matter to me. I just wanted to make sure my phone would be useable without having to root it, change the kernels, etc. to make calls and text family & friends.
So thank you ALL for all your information and taking the time to share it. It is very much appreciated!
The Skyrocket says it supports LTE 700/1700/2100 so does the Galaxy Note and they just found a way to use the Galaxy Note on TMobile 4g so wouldn't this phone support it as well? They have the same specs.
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WOW! Thank you all for such much information, I LOVE this forum. As for the 3G honestly some may think I am crazy but I honestly don't care about the 3G/4G stuff. I use my phone for talking and texting, I never use the data plan. In fact I just don't have a data plan so it honestly don't matter to me. I just wanted to make sure my phone would be useable without having to root it, change the kernels, etc. to make calls and text family & friends.
So thank you ALL for all your information and taking the time to share it. It is very much appreciated!
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The Skyrocket says it supports LTE 700/1700/2100 so does the Galaxy Note and they just found a way to use the Galaxy Note on TMobile 4g so wouldn't this phone support it as well? They have the same specs.
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Us skyrockerters had figured this out easy before the note came out. I've been using mine on TMobile 4G since January.
Alias..if all you want is talk and text then you don't have to do anything except unlock the phone and put your Sim card in.
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No problem alias glad to help, you will have to edit some APN settings if you want to send mms though! Not hard at all just search the forums or the web if you have any trouble.
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How do you use your skyrocket on tmobile and get 4g speeds?