Im wondering if anyone noticed a speed difference between wireless tether speedtest.net results and the speedtest app results?
Im able to get 20-25mbps on the app but only 5-8mbps down when tethered to my fairly new laptop. Im wondering if there is a remedy to this, kernal or whatever or if it has to do to the fact that its connecting on G instead of N.
Dont get me wrong, 5-8 is pretty fast but if I can get more than 2x that speed by doing something different I want to do something different.
Thanks
Brandon
I am experiencing the same slow down.
Don't forget the wifi card in your laptops can make a huge difference. Remember that Wireless G tops out at ~13Mb/s. I was able to get the "full" 13Mb/s on my laptop though that is only G. If I had a wireless N card I'm sure the numbers would be the same as the speedtest app.
arunningpir8 said:
Don't forget the wifi card in your laptops can make a huge difference. Remember that Wireless G tops out at ~13Mb/s. I was able to get the "full" 13Mb/s on my laptop though that is only G. If I had a wireless N card I'm sure the numbers would be the same as the speedtest app.
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Um... no... it's a max of 54Mb/s
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11g-2003
Stop believing the Speedtest app, go to the actual website on your phone and do the speedtest from there. That will show your actual speeds.
4x4le said:
Im wondering if anyone noticed a speed difference between wireless tether speedtest.net results and the speedtest app results?
Im able to get 20-25mbps on the app but only 5-8mbps down when tethered to my fairly new laptop. Im wondering if there is a remedy to this, kernal or whatever or if it has to do to the fact that its connecting on G instead of N.
Dont get me wrong, 5-8 is pretty fast but if I can get more than 2x that speed by doing something different I want to do something different.
Thanks
Brandon
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It has been stated for a while now that the speedtest app is inaccurate with LTE
still getting much better results in the browser. 15-20 down
Ive had no trouble getting high speed tests on other networks with the card in this laptop either.
The little sticker in the lower right corner says I have a Acer Nplify 802.11b/g/n and Im only connecting on G, so I guess im only broadcasting on g.
The tether I downloaded was on googles website.
The one in the market isnt showing up for me.
And the whole internet isn't run off of that server. You got that speed, from that test, on that server, on that site, at that exact time. That doesn't mean you are going to get that for everything. It's a speedTEST, keyword... test.
Yes, VZW has blocked the viewing of any wireless tethering apps in the market. Because they don't want anyone tethering if they aren't paying for it. And after the free trial Mobile Hotspot is up on the 15th of it is up they may be monitoring it much more closely.
yea sure, but shouldnt testing that same server through the same connection yield similar results?
I can test it from my phone and then my computer or visa versa and consistently get lower results on my computer.
Also im wondering why its broadcasting on g instead of n
If you say it will only broadcast on g then Ill just take that but on my dink I would always get consistent results when doing this test
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Um... no... it's a max of 54Mb/s
Stop believing the Speedtest app, go to the actual website on your phone and do the speedtest from there. That will show your actual speeds.
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Really? Don't get me wrong but if you can post a picture of a transfer rate of 54Mb/s I would gladly retract my statement.
That's like saying you get 300Mb/s on N, just because it's rated at that, doesn't mean thats what you actually get. Under perfectly ideal conditions, a wireless G connection will get you ~25Mb/s...thats perfectly ideal. Now take into consideration not sitting within 5 inches of the router, other wireless frequencies in the air, and plenty of other things in the air to disrupt the path of the wave, and you get a "ideal" 13Mb/s.
Nonetheless, the new speedtest app did fix the upload issues with the massive send buffer of the thunderbolt, so they are as accurate as the web version is.
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If you say it will only broadcast on g then Ill just take that but on my dink I would always get consistent results when doing this test
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As for this you will always get more consistent results from a landline as it is a fixed connection, and is always connected to the same host (your isp). Your phone on the other hand is always going to be vastly different especially when you select different servers to test your speed with. Some servers I get almost 30Mb/s, others I top out around 9-10...it all depends on a lot of things.
All in all your speed shouldn't be a big issue with tethering unless you are torrenting which god help us all you better not be
For general browsing, anything over 5Mb/s will be hard for the general user to see a difference in. If I had to put a surefire number on my throughput on tethering, I get around 1.5MB/s on LTE, which is equal to my comcast line in my apartment.
As stated earlier, wireless G is 2.4Ghz which is a high frequency. High frequency waves have a much lower skin depth than lower frequency waves (such as LTE running 700Mhz). This means that the waves will be much more susceptible to things in its path such as your body
If you are getting at least 5-8Mb/s on your tether, you should be happy. Think of where you were before on 3g
I actually just had the same issue, WiFi tether only yielded 3-5 mbit down. On WiFi mobile hotspot I got 11-13 mbit down, so I believe there is something going on.
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I'm wirelessly tethered right now, ran a speed test on my laptop and the browser on my phone, and got almost identical numbers. 10Mb/s Down and 1.2Mb/s Up.
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Really? Don't get me wrong but if you can post a picture of a transfer rate of 54Mb/s I would gladly retract my statement.
That's like saying you get 300Mb/s on N, just because it's rated at that, doesn't mean thats what you actually get. Under perfectly ideal conditions, a wireless G connection will get you ~25Mb/s...thats perfectly ideal. Now take into consideration not sitting within 5 inches of the router, other wireless frequencies in the air, and plenty of other things in the air to disrupt the path of the wave, and you get a "ideal" 13Mb/s.
Nonetheless, the new speedtest app did fix the upload issues with the massive send buffer of the thunderbolt, so they are as accurate as the web version is.
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And I didn't say anything about he should be getting 54Mb/s, read again. I clarified a false statement that was made and nothing more.
I've been saying this for a while.
Even on Easy Tether (wired USB connection) on laptop and desktop I'm getting 3 down 1.5 up. Verified on Speed Test sites and actually downloading files.
When I first got the phone (Mar. 18th) I could use Easy Tether OR Wifi hotspot and get the same LTE speeds I got on my phone (using the site, not the app).
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And I didn't say anything about he should be getting 54Mb/s, read again. I clarified a false statement that was made and nothing more.
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I meant a picture using your wireless G router/card connection...which I can positively guarantee that is not.
All ranting aside though, I personally think the tethered speeds are excellent compared to where we were only months ago.
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I meant a picture using your wireless G router/card connection...which I can positively guarantee that is not.
All ranting aside though, I personally think the tethered speeds are excellent compared to where we were only months ago.
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lol yeah its some pic from google image search.
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lol yeah its some pic from google image search.
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well played good sir
Terrible Tether Speeds
I bought this TB specifically to tether and my tether speeds are about 1/10th that of the phone speeds. On the phone I get ~8m/13m however on PC and I tried 3 including windows 7 and xp i get ~1.2m/800k. So let me ask a couple of questions.
1. I used the speedtest.net app how much can it be off? I will try the website and see if its that much different.
2. This is a new phone and the software status is blank is this normal.
3. It was explained to me that my area is a 4g EXT area and not native which they said may cause a difference (but how can that be if the phone has good speeds).
Is there anything I can do? If not i'm sending it back.
Same story here, large slow down on wireless tethering.
Barnacle and Wireless Tether for Root Users act similarly. Running the pre-alpha CM7 (RC0.6) on my Bolt.
Perhaps there is some kernel optimizations needed for this type of "pass through"?
Just wanted to reiterate that the speedtest app is innaccurate to say the least. If you run the app you will get far different numbers than if you go to speedtest.net via the browser. Also I'm assuming everyone is giving these results on 4G? If not, we need to set the bar a little higher
Use this site for your metrics:
http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest
I've found speedtest.net to be grossly inaccurate.
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Looking to get better LTE signal in my house where I get 0-2 bars, signal is there but sketchy at times.
Has anyone tried the external antenna port on the bottom back of the phone? Will this adapter work?
http://bestcelldist.com/htc_thunderbolt_external_antenna_adapters.html
Then add this antenna:
http://bestcelldist.com/htc_thunderbolt_all_bands_8db_panel_indoor.html
Wilson electronics AWS LTE booster isn't offered till mid June according to their sales department. Looking for something to get me by till then.
What is your signal strength in dBm?
With those antennas, I believe they should work with the TB, but how well they will actually work is another question.
Where do I find dBm or what app?
Settings >> About Phone >> Network
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Im seeing -92 to -99
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Im seeing -92 to -99
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that isnt too bad dude. not bad enough that i would buy an antenna. but you if you want to then i prob wont be able to convince you otherwise.
as far as will it fit? yes
will it work? yes
how well will it work? prob not as well as it should
as a side note Verizons 4G is not in the AWS spectrum but rather in the 700Mhz Block for LTE and VZE operates voice and 1X at 850 and evdo 3G at 1900 (pcs)
its not your phone, LTE is just not as good as it should inside homes, i really dont know why so I wont be able to answer that. My signal strength is -75 and I still get spotty coverage at home, sometimes it could go hours without dropping and sometimes it will drop like crazy. It is kinda crazy but it is what it is.
I can go outside and go to work 3 miles away and walk to the next block and as long as I am outside it works great. I think its just my house, or something lol. I dont know I have given up on it.
Oh by the way the bars dont represent the signal strength of 4g, the techs told me that it is only the voice signal strength and the bars have nothing to do with 3g or 4g signal. That was confirmed from 3 different techs.
Well I guess I can relate it to knowing what it could be and not getting it all the time. A lot of the time its 1-3 mbps and then if I hold the phone upside down, touch the tv antenna and do a flip right before I hit the speed test button I get 7-13 mbps. Seriously though I noticed it does better in certain parts of the house which is why I thought a antenna might help?
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that isnt too bad dude. not bad enough that i would buy an antenna. but you if you want to then i prob wont be able to convince you otherwise.
as far as will it fit? yes
will it work? yes
how well will it work? prob not as well as it should
as a side note Verizons 4G is not in the AWS spectrum but rather in the 700Mhz Block for LTE and VZE operates voice and 1X at 850 and evdo 3G at 1900 (pcs)
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Yea my bad, Wilson electronics will release the AWS (T-Mobile 4G) first then the LTE will follow shortly after that AWS release.
http://www.wilsonelectronics.com/uploads/docs/Press Releases/4G_Signal_Boosters.pdf
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its not your phone, LTE is just not as good as it should inside homes, i really dont know why so I wont be able to answer that. My signal strength is -75 and I still get spotty coverage at home, sometimes it could go hours without dropping and sometimes it will drop like crazy. It is kinda crazy but it is what it is.
I can go outside and go to work 3 miles away and walk to the next block and as long as I am outside it works great. I think its just my house, or something lol. I dont know I have given up on it.
Oh by the way the bars dont represent the signal strength of 4g, the techs told me that it is only the voice signal strength and the bars have nothing to do with 3g or 4g signal. That was confirmed from 3 different techs.
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Good to know. If I go a quater mile outside my house I can get full signal with 40mbps download speeds. I have been in other peoples houses and had a fast connection so I think it does have to do with where they are located. Anywhere in Plano its in the 20-40 mbps range. My friend said in Houston he received 55 mbps download speeds. Must be something with upgrading the towers and this new equipment, I just hope they get it figured out.
BTW- I have Clear Wimax and it is somewhat reliable but with full signal the latency and download speeds are lacking compared to LTE. I made a video showing this- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCAdDurQDVQ
Ok,
So I have an adapter and an antenna, but my Samsung Charge has 4 ports. One L1R2, one L2, one R1, and an odd smaller sized one G.
Im assuming that the 3 normal ports are for its MIMO ability, but Im getting reduced signal not increased signal in each port.
Any thoughts?
I dont know if you purchased it or not yet but Verizon sells a device that increases the signal throughout your house without having to plug it into your phone. If you need a link just say but I would much rather that from the company I bought the phone than some off brand thing that may or may not work.
Plus the Verizon would would work with all Verizon phones in your house.
nkd said:
its not your phone, LTE is just not as good as it should inside homes, i really dont know why so I wont be able to answer that. My signal strength is -75 and I still get spotty coverage at home, sometimes it could go hours without dropping and sometimes it will drop like crazy. It is kinda crazy but it is what it is.
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My indoor experience has been exactly the opposite. My office is smack in the middle of this concrete and steel WWII-era building
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and my phones have almost never shown 3G, including the TBolt.
Since 4G came on last Friday testing in Indy, I have seen consistent 4G signal. That is consistent with the lower frequency being better at penetrations. In fact, it prompted me to put the Internet Connection widget on my desktop so I could turn off data instead of watching a huge battery drain.
That said, at home in a 4G fringe area, the only way to get 4G in my house is to walk to the window facing the direction of the tower. And the signal strength holding to the glass is about 10dB higher than just a few feet back.
kierandill said:
My indoor experience has been exactly the opposite. My office is smack in the middle of this concrete and steel WWII-era building
and my phones have almost never shown 3G, including the TBolt.
Since 4G came on last Friday testing in Indy, I have seen consistent 4G signal. That is consistent with the lower frequency being better at penetrations. In fact, it prompted me to put the Internet Connection widget on my desktop so I could turn off data instead of watching a huge battery drain.
That said, at home in a 4G fringe area, the only way to get 4G in my house is to walk to the window facing the direction of the tower. And the signal strength holding to the glass is about 10dB higher than just a few feet back.
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hook a brother up with a job.. loookin to work for raytheon in LA.. lol
miketoasty said:
I dont know if you purchased it or not yet but Verizon sells a device that increases the signal throughout your house without having to plug it into your phone. If you need a link just say but I would much rather that from the company I bought the phone than some off brand thing that may or may not work.
Plus the Verizon would would work with all Verizon phones in your house.
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Yeah,
Im not looking so much to improve call quality as I am looking to get 4G on a fringe area. Overcast days we get 4G from the reflection of the clouds, so I figured if I put a yagi on it I should be able to get 4G on a normal day.
I tried the normal connector that VZW normally sells for aircards. It cause a loss of signal in every port. But I looked at my neighbors Thunderbolt and saw that it had the same little port that my phone has that is marked G.
I ordered a plug for it and we will see if I get any boost from there.
So any good advise on making an external antenna for the thunderbolt? Has it been confirmed that the rubber round hole under the kick stand is indeed an external use for LTE antenna?
I talked with 3gstore and they recommended the use of the Wilson Electronics 801865 4G Verizon LTE Cell Phone Booster 70dB Adjustable Gain In-Building Wireless 700 MHz LTE Smart Technology Signal Booster but then again, that cost $350+.... can a simple hookup connector be connected to the phone with an outside antenna?
Thanks for your time,
David
By any chance you got a friend with an LG Revolution?
That phone will tell you for your dbm for 1X,3G, AND 4G.
I drove a truck for 5 years. Wilson has been selling this crap in every truck stop in America for at least as long and I've seen a lot of people buy it. The stuff I've used (other people's stuff) really hasn't done anything that I can tell. To me, it seems like a massive marketing gimmick. The stuff that actually connects to a connector on the device might show promise, but I'm not a fan of some 6 foot coax cable hanging off of a delicate connector soldered right to my board. I'm not really sure how effective any LTE solution would be either, since the LTE specification calls for dual antennas.
Bottom line: I've pretty much everything I've ever seen come from Wilson Communications is over-priced gimmicks that lack any sort of verifiable functionality.
I agree with the other driver. Most of the antenna stuff sold is a gimmick. I have a Verizon extender in my house. It only works on call quality. I only have. 1 EV signal at home with the extender. And it does not improve that. so I know that won't help the 4G signal get any better. But the extender does at times interfere with other cell phone calls of my neighbors within range of it.
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OK so i have heard what not to get but haven't heard what to get in order to increase my bars on the phone within the house.
David
Just got a Droid Charge lately and have been using it with Android-Wifi-Tether 3.1 and everything has been great, awesome even...but just to be more greedy hoping to see if it can be made better.
The issue that I notice is when doing a speed test on my phone(speedtest.net) and doing Android-Wifi-Tether and doing a speed test on my pc(speedtest.net) there is a HUGE drop.
Android-Wifi-Tether 3.1: 7.40mbps/6.59mbps
Phone using flash: 12.30mbps/5.75mbps
To note, I also have an Epic 4g and it does exactly same thing with 4G where upload is ok and download gets chopped up. And after doing some tests on my Epic I concluded that it was not the limitation of the wifi(I setup a socks proxy on my phone and when in use downloads speeds matched)
Any suggestions on how to take the biggest advantage of the speed? I don't car if its ad-hoc or infrastructure as long as I have the fastest speed possible.(short of setting up a socks proxy again lol)
Root your phone and download the latest version of this:
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
The reason you have to go there is because Verizon blacklisted it in the market for the Charge. Once you install it, go to settings and change the device profile to Samsung Fascinate. This tether is infrastructure, so it acts like a real router.
I torrent using this app all the time using unlimited and my data has not been slowed.
JihadSquad said:
Root your phone and download the latest version of this:
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
The reason you have to go there is because Verizon blacklisted it in the market for the Charge. Once you install it, go to settings and change the device profile to Samsung Fascinate. This tether is infrastructure, so it acts like a real router.
I torrent using this app all the time using unlimited and my data has not been slowed.
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Not trying to derail the thread or anything, but did you know you can torrent directly from your phone? I do it almost every night-app called "aDownloader"
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kvswim said:
Not trying to derail the thread or anything, but did you know you can torrent directly from your phone? I do it almost every night-app called "aDownloader"
Sent from my Droid Charge running Infinity Beta
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Yes, I use that. However, I can't store the large files that I download onto it (think blu-ray).
AtorrentPRO IS WAY BETTER THAN ADOWNLOADER. its a paid app in the market but you can torrent for it . lol
JihadSquad said:
Root your phone and download the latest version of this:
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
The reason you have to go there is because Verizon blacklisted it in the market for the Charge. Once you install it, go to settings and change the device profile to Samsung Fascinate. This tether is infrastructure, so it acts like a real router.
I torrent using this app all the time using unlimited and my data has not been slowed.
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Did you read what I wrote? I mean how would I be using Android-Wifi-Tether if I was not rooted? I mean I am using it already if you haven't noticed...
Anyways..are you 100% sure that you are not loosing speed when tethering? did you do a speed test on both your pc and your phone using the same speedtest server?
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AtorrentPRO IS WAY BETTER THAN ADOWNLOADER. its a paid app in the market but you can torrent for it . lol
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I have used both before and ya atorrent was a lot better.
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Edit: Interesting..by coincidence I had my phone left on clock by accident so screen was not turning off... apparently when I ran a speed test with screen on it ran at 20mbps download and with screen off 4-5mbps..hmm..it seems like it may be switching to low power mode or something :/..and keeping the screen on is bad cause it'll burn away the oleds so maybe by making it a fully black screen and never idle? :/
gTen said:
Did you read what I wrote? I mean how would I be using Android-Wifi-Tether if I was not rooted? I mean I am using it already if you haven't noticed...
Anyways..are you 100% sure that you are not loosing speed when tethering? did you do a speed test on both your pc and your phone using the same speedtest server?
I have used both before and ya atorrent was a lot better.
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Edit: Interesting..by coincidence I had my phone left on clock by accident so screen was not turning off... apparently when I ran a speed test with screen on it ran at 20mbps download and with screen off 4-5mbps..hmm..it seems like it may be switching to low power mode or something :/..and keeping the screen on is bad cause it'll burn away the oleds so maybe by making it a fully black screen and never idle? :/
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Wow I guess I wasn't paying attention LOL. But I use an app called screen filter (market) to superdim the screen to save battey. I once set it to 10% and I could barely make out the cancel button outside at night.
Ok, problem solved...it seems I gotta uncheck "Disable wake-lock" and then manually turn off the screen..that way I get full speed 4g tethering it seems..gonna do a bit more tests to make sure.
Edit: NVM that only works for a few minutes and phone goes back to low power mode...hmmm...
Edit2: or maybe "Disable wake-lock" does work :/..ok I am gonna stop jumping the gun and do a few days of testing...
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Ok, problem solved...it seems I gotta uncheck "Disable wake-lock" and then manually turn off the screen..that way I get full speed 4g tethering it seems..gonna do a bit more tests to make sure.
Edit: NVM that only works for a few minutes and phone goes back to low power mode...hmmm...
Edit2: or maybe "Disable wake-lock" does work :/..ok I am gonna stop jumping the gun and do a few days of testing...
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Congrats on getting better numbers ...
But, gTen, you may be going about this the totally wrong way. WiFi tethering is not an efficient way to tether. It may be convenient, but there are "costs" involved.
1) WiFi tethering is susceptible to EMF noise and signal strength/quality that can degrade your data rates randomly.
2) WiFi has a more limited bandwidth.
3) You need to plug in your phone, since power consumption when WiFi tethering is pretty significant.
For the most reliable tethering connection, you should try wired (USB) tethering (I like using EasyTether - It's cheap and very easy to use).
Wired tethering advantages:
1) No signal degradation.
2) The USB real-world bandwidth is around 380 Mb/sec vs. around 100 Mb/sec for 802.11n (but, that's when the signal is perfect).
3) Your phone is plugged into your PC, so you are charging your phone while it is tethering.
That said, here's another thought: For WiFi tethering, I found that the Open Garden app was much more reliable and flexible than the Android-WiFi-Tethering app. Open Garden also supports Bluetooth connections.
Cheers,
¿GJ?
I am also curious about the wake-lock function.
¿GotJazz? said:
Congrats on getting better numbers ...
But, gTen, you may be going about this the totally wrong way. WiFi tethering is not an efficient way to tether. It may be convenient, but there are "costs" involved.
1) WiFi tethering is susceptible to EMF noise and signal strength/quality that can degrade your data rates randomly.
2) WiFi has a more limited bandwidth.
3) You need to plug in your phone, since power consumption when WiFi tethering is pretty significant.
For the most reliable tethering connection, you should try wired (USB) tethering (I like using EasyTether - It's cheap and very easy to use).
Wired tethering advantages:
1) No signal degradation.
2) The USB real-world bandwidth is around 380 Mb/sec vs. around 100 Mb/sec for 802.11n (but, that's when the signal is perfect).
3) Your phone is plugged into your PC, so you are charging your phone while it is tethering.
That said, here's another thought: For WiFi tethering, I found that the Open Garden app was much more reliable and flexible than the Android-WiFi-Tethering app. Open Garden also supports Bluetooth connections.
Cheers,
¿GJ?
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I have been tethering for a long time ever since my days of the PPC6700 came out. I have tried USB, Wifi and Bluetooth and eventually settled on using Wifi.
I am well aware of the advantages and disadvantages of each. At end of the day even if Wifi goes at 54mbps, considering LTE speeds in my area its more then enough.
On the other hand USB will make my phone end up on the floor...trust me I know..I have dropped my ppc6700 and mogul over 1,000 times EACH (I am not exaggerating here)..1 - 4 times a day I dropped my phones while tethering.
USB is not the ultimate end all protocol either cause you have also to deal with large overhead.
I have made sure to pick the least congested channel and so far its doing ok and my speeds are matching my phone in general. I was not trying to ink out the best performance down to the kilobyte but we can all agree that tethering at speeds 1/2 to 1/3 of that set on the phone is too low.
I am always by a charger so its no big deal to me, I don't tether unless I am next to one anyways.
I will try out Open Garden and see how that goes, can't hurt I guess.
Edit: I looked at open garden and it seem to b a fork of android-wifi-tether 2.x branch :/
So far looking at the "wake-lock" option it seems to be a hit or miss at keeping the device awake..but I am 100% certain keeping the device awake is having an effect on the speed.
Right now I am trying a few tricks such as after setting it to tether open up the alarm clock app, then turn off the screen..so far its working but don't want to jinx it :/
Maybe you can use Tasker to set the MIN clock speed to 800mhz whenever the Tether app is running?
You could check if that works first by using Tegrak or similar...
If that works try 400mhz, etc...
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Edit: I looked at open garden and it seem to b a fork of android-wifi-tether 2.x branch :/
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Yep, it is. And I found it to be a lot less buggy, and better functionality. The "latest & greatest" rev may always be the latest, but it certainly isn't always going to be the greatest.
So I have a Xoom FE, obviously, and when I'm browsing the internet in the stock browser, browsing the market, watching netflix, anything that requires internet in general is incredibly slow. Like almost unusable.
I know my internet is fast enough because both of my computers and other devices (Xbox, Droid, Sony Blu-Ray) fly on my network. We use a good Netgear router that's a full a/b/g/n dual band device running on 2.4 and 5Ghz.
The browser is usually painfully slow no matter what, and any of the apps that have anything to do with video are just pathetic. No videos load quickly, mainly in the YouTube app or when browsing to a video on the web, IGN for an example. Once they load enough they rarely keep playing for very long before stopping to buffer, and that's very noticeable in Netflix especially.
I've done Google searches and tried nearly everything that's been suggested, but most of that stuff is for the original Xoom. Not many seem to have gone for the FE. If anyone has any ideas on what I can try I'm open to ideas, even including the router settings. Like I said my internet speed is fine, I can stream 4k YouTube clips without buffering on my PCs.
Gosh over 100 views and no suggestions! Not even 1? Man...
Does this happen on other wireless networks? Or only on your own?
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I have the family edition and I have great internet speed. I have a pc, laptop, xbox 360, evo 3d, Hp touchpad, and the xoom FE all on the same router and still the xooms internet is fast. So it might be a router problem for you
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That's what I was trying to isolate.
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I haven't really used it on another router for any significant length of time. Unfortunately that means I can't isolate that as a problem either. In a couple weeks I'll be staying at a house with wifi when I go skiing, I'll definitely be paying attention to the speed there.
Its definitely the worst with video, whether it be flash or the youtube app itself the video just loads incredibly slow. Flash videos are nearly unwatchable if not because of the speed because of the glitching. Something I saw hadn't been fixed in the Xoom 2 when I read Engadget's review.
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I watch videos just fine. YouTube, netflix all that good ish with no problem
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Run Speedtest. If it's slow compared to your laptop, then try changing the wifi router protocol. If it's using WEP, try changing to WPA. I had this issue with my nook color and changing to WPA fixed internet speed issues.
Well I ran a speed test on all the devices I have. My laptop, Droid Charge and my desktop (which is hardwired) all reached just about 5mbps. That isn't bad, my AT&T DSL is supposed to peak at 6. This stupid thing hit under .5mbps, notice that POINT. That's less than half 1mbps. Thinking it might just be the browser I downloaded the app (which doesn't have a honeycomb version apparently), it fared slightly better with about 1.5mbps. Both tests had a ping of about 400ms, while all other devices were less than 20ms.
The router is already set to WPA, so I'm not sure what else to try. I'm thinking about trying the push button connect on the router to see if it helps.
Got netgear?
Just got fed up with mine after 2 years.
Granted it was draft n, and dropped the ssid broadcast daily, but even wired it slowed to a crawl most likely due to spi (stateful packet inspection). Try without it on if you got it.
Or buy a cisco router (they bought linksys). All my phone, tablet and pc related connection issues stopped when I replaced mine.
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I haven't really used it on another router for any significant length of time. Unfortunately that means I can't isolate that as a problem either...
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Try to find a free WiFi hotspot near you and go there to test it. There has to be some where near you that has free WiFi.
Our local McDonalds in my podunk town of 5000 has free WiFi.
It is worth a try.
did you ever find a solution to your problem? I'm experiencing slow download; choppy flashplayer, youtube is pretty much useless. i'm on cable with wi-fi modem. i'm beginning to think its the crappy modem provided by the cable company. but my desk top and net book are doing fine. anywho, any input would be greatly apreciated
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did you ever find a solution to your problem? I'm experiencing slow download; choppy flashplayer, youtube is pretty much useless. i'm on cable with wi-fi modem. i'm beginning to think its the crappy modem provided by the cable company. but my desk top and net book are doing fine. anywho, any input would be greatly apreciated
I never did find a solution. The symptoms you listed there are exactly what I'm living with. I haven't the slightest idea what might be causing it. The router appears to make no difference as I use it everywhere I go and the symptoms never go away for me. It's still useable, but slow. The other thing that bugs me is the browser's lovely habit of just force closing whenever it feels like it. Very annoying. I'm holding out hoping the ICS update can bring some fixes for us.
What ROM are you using? (Stock, Rooted? EOS ROM?) What type of router do you have?
Details can help you. 5 Mbps is horrible. If you're sharing that bandwidth with other active nodes, then that's even worse.
I have a Netgear WNDR3700 router. This one here. I'm on the stock rom, un-rooted. There's plenty of devices in my house sharing the network for sure, but only about 3 at a time are actively using the internet. Most of the time less than that. 6Mb DSL is the fastest thing we can get where we live (there's no cable in the middle of nowhere).
As I said before, even with many devices using the internet at the same time, my Android phone and all my other devices EXCEPT my Xoom speed test at near 5Mbps. The tablet is lucky to hit 1.5Mbps. I just don't get it. I haven't noticed the slowdown on any other routers, but honestly I don't use it much for the web outside of the house, just mainly reading and games.
I use a number of testing devices, and the Motorola Xoom Family Edition is by far the quirkiest--there must have been severe quality control issues at Motorola with that tablet.
I ran into the incredibly slow Internet speeds. Oddly enough, restarting the device fixed THAT Family Edition problem... for now.
I really don't know what it is about this tablet, it just seems to run very slow. Even when I tethered it to my 4G LTE phone (I get about 15-20mbps where I am) it was slow to pull up videos and pages (pages loaded quickly once they started). I think it needs some optimization for sure. I have a feeling they swapped in some new hardware and didn't touch the software from the original Xoom and that's where our problems are coming from.
Hopefully they actually try with ICS, though my hopes aren't high that we'll even get it this quarter, or if we do that it will be any better.
Having some bad WiFi with my new Shield tablet.. Where my Note 3 or Tab S have full bars my Shield only gets 2 of 4... Low link speed too. I was hoping it was a software issue but not so sure anymore..... When holding the tablet in portrait, my hands hold the bottom part of the tablet, moving my hands increases the bars and then move them back and they go away. I guess the WiFi antenna is down there? Either way, it is easily blocked. Anyone else notice this?
there's a big thread over at geforce.com about it. you're not alone. 2.4 is OK-ish though still weaker than my other devices but 5ghz is terrible. where my note3 gets 108mbit 1 floor down the shield tab gets 6-12mbit and sometimes no signal at all. heck, same floor as the router and 1 room over with 1 wall between and 15ft total distance and it only manages a meager 24mbit connection when my note3 is at 150mbit and my surface3 is 300mbit. hoping its not a hardware design flaw and is just poor drivers or firmware.
Yeah its a shame really. I wouldn't expect bad WiFi signal really with any device released recently.
Maybe they lowered the mW output of the wifi to help mitigate battery drain from the gpu. That can usually be fixed with firmware, for about a 3% hit on battery life.
If antenna related, a power increase will not help much if at all. Only fix then would be a production revision.
Well I guess I will hope for the first possibility.
I might be a bit under on the battery life hit. Maybe 5% is closer. I hope so too, since was going to get the 32gb model when released.
Here's a look at Note 3, Tab S, and Shield all sitting on the router. Note the link speed on all.
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It could be that your 802.11ac router is using the wireless-b/g standard instead of n
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It could be that your 802.11ac router is using the wireless-b/g standard instead of n
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Does the Shield not support ac? Dang, I thought I read it did before I bought it.
Nope only up to n
There is already a way to increase the power with the wifi optimization setting and reports are minimal if any improvement. Looking more like an antenna issue, but always a chance something else. Need to get a response from Nvidia. If they go silent on the matter, that would be bad.
Wonder if the 32GB will have the issue as well? A delay in the 32GB (beginning of September) would suggest a design revision might be in place.
I just got mine today and the wifi is pretty bad on this compared to my note 3. I tried running a test by walking away from my router with both the note 3 and the shield tablet. Eventually the shield lost communication with my router while the note 3 still was able to acquire at at least 2 -3 bars. I was really looking forward to this tablet but if I can't go to another room without losing connection then it's pretty pointless.
Damn it. This is unbearable. I can't even play modern combat 5 which requires constant connection. It keeps disconnecting.
Running wifi analyzer I noticed the connection jumps a lot. I would love to open her up to see if it's a connection issue but not sure how to. Have to wait for a tear down.
May I ask which router you have ? I had a lot of issues with one particular brand- Netgear, which is very picky in terms of devices . It works with Mac retina, but it did not work with my Vaio , Now I am using cisco ea4500 and all of my problem gone, I might be wrong but it always good to check in on other wifi-s
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May I ask which router you have ? I had a lot of issues with one particular brand- Netgear, which is very picky in terms of devices . It works with Mac retina, but it did not work with my Vaio , Now I am using cisco ea4500 and all of my problem gone, I might be wrong but it always good to check in on other wifi-s
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Netgear r7000 Nighthawk. Shield tablet is my only problem device on the network.
My Tab S does great in the same spots. This morning has been actually great though, not as good as my Tab S but it also costs a lot more so probably expected. Here's 2 speed tests for comparison. First one is Tab S and second is Shield .
Mine works fine with an older netgear router. The classic 802.11g 2.4Ghz. Same speeds as my nexus 5 gets pretty much everywhere in my house. I don't use the streaming feature though so can't comment on it.
An nVidia guy did respond to a report of that 24Mbps thing. Maybe that bug affects more than just the WiFi Analytics app.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/764386/shield-tablet/horrible-wi-fi-performance/10/
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Mine works fine with an older netgear router. The classic 802.11g 2.4Ghz. Same speeds as my nexus 5 gets pretty much everywhere in my house. I don't use the streaming feature though so can't comment on it.
An nVidia guy did respond to a report of that 24Mbps thing. Maybe that bug affects more than just the WiFi Analytics app.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/764386/shield-tablet/horrible-wi-fi-performance/10/
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In my case, my issue is more range. The shield has a weaker wifi.
So I received a replacement last week which had slightly better signal than my original but it had a much warmer yellowish screen so there was no way I'm going to keep that. I figured then that this has to be a hardware thing so I opened up the back and made sure all the connection for the radio was properly seated. And to my surprise it made my wifi on par with the replacement and with my Samsung note 2014. I don't recommend you open yours of course but maybe there's potential QA issue with these tablets? I recommend maybe you get a replacement from Nvidia and hopefully you get one with better wifi.
Top is note 2014, bottom left original shield, bottom right replacement.
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has anybody else had WiFi problems with their 7pro? I had WiFi problems with my 6t as well it'll say connected no internet and the Wi-Fi is very slow opposed to data when there is no other problem with other devices using the same Wi-Fi connection. sometimes the Wi-Fi won't work at all even if my phone says it's connected apps will not load. I am on a t-mobile variant flashed to international since the day I bought it a week ago any insight to this would be great because I see that people have this issue a lotk
Yeah WiFi "speeds" on the 7Pro are abysmal. I have around 1/3rd to 1/4th the speed compared to my previous 5T. Something completely unexpected, thought the phone would be as least as fast if not faster.
Same thing on 9.5.5/9.5.7 and with various kernels
Yeah I'll vouch for that too. My WiFi speeds and connection strength for that matter are terrible! I came from a 6T that honestly had no problem with WiFi whatsoever, so this is annoying. Well, I hope the next update addresses WiFi, because the 7 Pro is a nice phone! It's a shame!
Add me as another for this list. My speeds are absolute crap, seemingly capped at 15mbps across all networks I've tried. My sons Pixel 3 on the other hand flies on the same. So not a router or ISP issue. So disappointed as everything about the 7 Pro is awesome but can't live with such poor WiFi, have a feeling it affects the HotSpot capability and speed too whatever the issue is.
Hi all!
I had that too - a simple wipe cache of all the phone's resources fixes the problem (turn off the phone then hold volume down and power button till the recovery mode kicks in and then just go to wipe cache and reboot, e voila!). I had some 10 MBps (lol!), now it is almost 80 Mbps, which is what I should get given my old WiFi system. Never settle!
Along with wiping the cache as the previous poster said...another thing that sometimes works is to reboot your router while at the same time doing a network reset on the phone. This way all the connections are fresh and new. I know this has been a solution for many different phones over the years. YMMV
T-mobile variant flashed to International
Same problem here. I have the T-Mobile variant and flashed international prior to 40 day unlock. It shows I have WiFi and or data but nothing loads. I rest my phone and all is good. It happens 2-3 times a day. I've tried wiping cache and it still happens. I vaguely remember having network issues before I flashed the international software but, I'm not sure if it's the T-mobile variant phone or if its international software. Any ideas?
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has anybody else had WiFi problems with their 7pro? I had WiFi problems with my 6t as well it'll say connected no internet and the Wi-Fi is very slow opposed to data when there is no other problem with other devices using the same Wi-Fi connection. sometimes the Wi-Fi won't work at all even if my phone says it's connected apps will not load. I am on a t-mobile variant flashed to international since the day I bought it a week ago any insight to this would be great because I see that people have this issue a lotk
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Today my 5Ghz has just stopped working period. can't connect to a 5Ghz or use the mobile hot spot at 5Ghz which i did use every single day for work, now i have to use the 2.4Ghz but it is WAY slower. anyone figure out why?
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Today my 5Ghz has just stopped working period. can't connect to a 5Ghz or use the mobile hot spot at 5Ghz which i did use every single day for work, now i have to use the 2.4Ghz but it is WAY slower. anyone figure out why?
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Are you sure it's the phone?
seeing as i have now tried multiple locations and wifi's yes. and my work phone can connect just fine to all the ones including my home, just the oneplus can not.
it stopped while in use like it just died.
Does anyone know how to solve this issue yet? Can't seem to find any fix
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I wonder why I got this slow, I used to have 100+ on my old iPhone X (same 5g wifi)
My wife and I both have this problem as well. Fortunately we have truly unlimited data, or tie would be unacceptable. Sometimes it's super fast, sometimes it's so slow apps decide you're offline. I've never seen any sort of fix; it's probably an OS/kernel level issue.
Same issue!!!
I have also created thread on onePlus official forum!
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/2-4-ghz-band-wi-fi-not-working.1208128/#post-21456923
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has anybody else had WiFi problems with their 7pro? I had WiFi problems with my 6t as well it'll say connected no internet and the Wi-Fi is very slow opposed to data when there is no other problem with other devices using the same Wi-Fi connection. sometimes the Wi-Fi won't work at all even if my phone says it's connected apps will not load. I am on a t-mobile variant flashed to international since the day I bought it a week ago any insight to this would be great because I see that people have this issue a lotk
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In Houston, I have no wifi issues with my 7pro on ATT!!!!
Router settings are going to play into this. Many variables beyond "my phone doesn't work" I can get over 200mbps on a fast router and connection properly configured for N or AC. Even on 2.4ghz, 60-100mbps works.
I just got this phone coming from a Poco F1 that decided to stop charging unless turned off and I've gotta say that this is very disappointing. First problem was that the phone wouldn't go above 10 Mbps. Changed my AC router config from 80 Mhz to 40 Mhz and that helped increase it to > 100 Mbps but if I go into Wifi settings the max the phone ever sees as receive/transmit speeds is 192 Mbps. It doesn't matter if it's 5 Ghz or 2.4 Ghz. Tried changing settings in the router and even tried a different router, same thing. Reset network settings, same thing. Reset the entire phone, same thing. This is the t-mobile unlocked variant of the phone.
Is there anything that can be done? Would a custom rom or converting it to the international version help?
EDIT: lol this is clearly either a hardware issue or some OS limit. I enabled hotspot and connected my Poco to it and the Poco also sees 192 Mbps max. This sucks...
I have the same problem with my op7P.
after downloading and installed an update, my WiFi could not be detected anymore....
it just could not find any WiFi
Needless to say, hotspot also failed.
I was able to fix my above problem (stuck at 192 Mbps max) by switching to the Pixel Experience ROM. Unfortunately, battery drain was excessive (and fingerprint stopped working out of the blue) so rolled back with MSM tool and upgraded to 10.3.3 using local upgrade. Back to stuck at 192 Mbps so this is definitely a rom problem.
I never had wifi problems with mine OP7 pro. Maybe a router problem!
I'm using 5Ghz and wifi rocks on Op7p.
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