Okay, I've searched, and either find WAY too many unhelpful results, or almost no results. I'm considering buying my first tablet, and have some very specific desires for one.
- MUST be able to do voice calls, and NOT voip-based. I'm talking about regular, carrier-routed voice phone calls. I want to still be able to make calls in areas where data has never been upgraded to 3g, let alone 4g. There is a reason I put this first: I don't want to have to carry a separate phone around!
- MUST have between 7 to 10.1 inch screen. I don't consider a 5" screen a tablet, it's just an oversized phone.
- MUST be android-based. I don't want an iPad as they're too locked down on apps. Of the remaining choices, Android seems to have the broadest selection of quality apps.
- MUST be at LEAST 1024x600, and preferably 1280x720+. I currently have the HTC Touch Pro 2, which is 800x480. I don't want to keep that resolution with a larger screen.
- MUST have a WORKING SDHC or microSDHC slot, or a fix for a non-working one. (I'm looking at YOU, Motorola!)
- MUST have enough storage built-in to hold a decent number of apps that work better if installed on the device rather than external storage
- MUST be decently sturdy. I'm not talking about withstanding a 2-story drop, or being sat on. But I don't want the whole thing to shatter, or for the innards to get scrambled, if it falls off a table.
- MUST be able to view web-based flash. I don't care if it takes a plugin, as long as it works.
I'd also PREFER:
- Android 3.0. 2.3 would be acceptable, but I've heard that 3.0 is supposed to be MUCH nicer for tablets.
- 4g. Yes, I want to be able to use voice without going the voip route, but I want to be able to take advantage of high-speed data, too. That said, 3g is acceptable, but I want to be somewhat "future-proofed"...lol
- Bluetooth 3.0, but 2.1+EDR would be fine
- WiFi 802.11n (g would be acceptable, but n seems almost standard on high-end tablets)
- primary camera should have a decently quick autofocus that provides acceptable quality images. This is my only gripe with the HTC TP2's camera, is that it takes anywhere from 2-5 seconds from pressing the shutter icon to actually capturing the image!
- I'd also like USB 2.0 host, but won't miss it, if it's not there.
- decent battery life, with a REMOVABLE battery
Thanks in advance,
k1darkknight
Try the dell streak 7?
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1) Does it really do voice calls without heavy hacking?
2) 480x800? on a 7" screen?
3) Android 2.2 (looking for 3.0, but if it can be updated/upgraded later, that's fine)
Really though, even if it does voice calls, the 480x800 is dam near a dealbreaker by itself. Though voice calls would make up for that, a LITTLE bit...
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http://www.pocketpctweaks.com/
How does this relate to the Tornado?
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How does this relate to the Tornado?
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I would also like to know this :wink:
I've been using my Tornado for some time now and to be honest, it is as slow as a wet week.
The screen resolution is fantastic, but in typical Microsoft fashion, they put a higher priority on the bells & whistles over the performance of the OS.
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mitchello said:
How does this relate to the Tornado?
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I would also like to know this :wink:
I've been using my Tornado for some time now and to be honest, it is as slow as a wet week.
The screen resolution is fantastic, but in typical Microsoft fashion, they put a higher priority on the bells & whistles over the performance of the OS.
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What model do you have? I am fairly happen with my SP5.
I have an SP5.
I've also got a KJAM and JASJAR.
I think the new WM2005 OS is extremely slow to respond compared with 2003SE devices.
it's a pretty device, just not very quick.
I do, however, like the WiFi capability on my SP5.
twinair said:
I have an SP5.
I've also got a KJAM and JASJAR.
I think the new WM2005 OS is extremely slow to respond compared with 2003SE devices.
it's a pretty device, just not very quick.
I do, however, like the WiFi capability on my SP5.
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Persistent storage
Another area where Windows Mobile lagged behind the Palm OS was in the realm of persistent storage. Historically, when the battery on a Windows Mobile-based device drained completely, user data was lost. To counter this, Windows Mobile-based devices sometimes allocated up to 30 percent of battery power just to save data. Now that Windows Mobile 5.0 has built-in support for persistent storage--so that when the battery drains completely, your data remains intact you can expect longer battery life, as the device won't have to allocate any power to maintain the information stored on it.
Why Persistent Storage Is A Good Thing
Here's a quick primer on why you want Persistent Storage on your Pocket PCs.
Persistent Storage (PS) on PocketPC is new for Windows Mobile 5.0
Previously, your user data (email, contacts, calendar, settings, apps you installed, etc) were stored in RAM. RAM has the advantage of being really fast, but the significant disadvantage of needing a constant source of power for it to hold its data. Leave your device unplugged for long enough, and you'll lose all your data. Fixing that was the primary reason for moving PocketPCs to Persistent Storage.
Persistent Storage gives you a nice sense of certainty about your data. Batteries running low? No problem. Worst case, the device shuts off and you can't use it again until you get to a power supply. But when you get there, it'll boot back up and all your data will still be there.
But Persistent Storage has a number of other effects that might not be quite so obvious. Would you believe that moving to Persistent Storage can double your battery life and enable devices with significantly more storage than were previously possible?
Downsides? Yes, nothing is free. Flash is much slower than RAM. Reading and writing large amounts of data will take longer on a Persistent Storage device than it did on a RAM device (Qtek 9090; 2020; S100). That initial sync that pulls down 400 contacts and 5000 emails will take longer. Some write operations will seem a bit more sluggish. But I believe you'll find that the upsides significantly outweigh the downsides.
You'd better get a copy of SPB PocketPC tips&tricks, no reg hacking & more tweaks.
bruxelles5:
I aree that persistant storage is a good thing.The fact that once a device ran out of power, it wiped it's storage has plagued my engineering team for a long time.
This is indeed a great advancement.
I just wish these things were a little faster.
I guess it is a matter of weighing up the good and the bad, and taking the bad with the good.
so no one answered the question... does this tweak work for tornado?
if yes, what exactly do i use to edit my registry?
thanks
Whenever i say that new smart phones aren't really phones, but actually entertainment devices that make calls, everyone nods and agrees. But what if there was a way to reverse that so they only made calls and pretty much nothing else? I'm looking to find a "safe mode", in which lots of services and drivers aren't even loaded.. ever. A good example of its use would be when i needed to drive 4 hours away for a funeral. I had no need for twitter and angry birds, I just needed to freely communicate with relatives. Another example is being stranded on the highway cause of dead car battery. Most Evo users would be clinging to dear battery life. Sometimes we want to be saturated with features, and other times we would be just fine with a classic green screen phone that only needs a weekly charge.
Would it be possible to dual boot into a very minimalist rom? If i knew my phone had a mode for emergencies, i wouldn't be searching every inch of the web for juice saving tips. Is this possible? If so, which rom would accomplish this? Thanks.
Sent from my HTC Evo 4G [rooted] Sprint 2.3.3(stock Sense, came preinstalled) Freedom-Aggressive kernel 0.8.5 hardware v.4
I have an option on my DroidX and it might work for you. I think it is generic for Android phones.
From the dialer do *#*#4636#*#* and go into the phone menu and you can change the network or disable the data connection altogether. On my phone it makes and receives phone calls and text messages but nothing else.
There is sometimes a delay when I make a change, a few seconds, so be patient.
I have a feeling you could do some damage in this menu so make a note of anything you change.
Since you are rooted, you could also install Droidwall or something similar and be very selective about what applications you allow to have a data connection.
You can theoretically create a custom CM7 or AOSP ROM with only the essentials- the phone.apk, contacts.apk, mms.apk, settings, and their corresponding supporting files/ framework.
Mind you, the screen would still be the biggest battery drain. And there comes a question of dual booting (which should be possible in my phone at least, with Magldr...).
Swyped from my HTC HD2 running CM7 (Gingerbread 2.3.5)
Hello, Hopefully I can help with some frustrations regarding the various levels of SYNC systems and their apparent compatibility issues with Galaxy S phones. I will help anyone with this system to the best of my ability, and being a technician for Ford, i have a pretty good handle on these systems.
First off, I would encourage anyone with a question about this system to reference the Device Compatibility Matrix that is available at syncmyride.com, as is some basic troubleshooting information.
Always make sure that your CIP is up to the most current software level. Version numbers are different for each vehicle line(Fiesta, Focus, Fusion, Flex, Edge, MKx, MKt, MKs, MKz, F series, E series, Mustang etc).
There is a known compatibility issue with Samsung Galaxy S family phones that is fairly consistent, however not 100% of the time.
The common symptoms both from my engineering department, and from my own experience is a complete lockup/disconnect when updating the phone book(sync) or a blackscreen and complete system lockup(mytouch variants).
In some instances, mainly with the AT&T flavor, the phones will not connect via bluetooth for media/text messaging or sync services, however they will usually work as a phone. None of the Galaxy S series will accept phone book downloads, and that has been known to completely lock out the system, requiring a hard reset and occasionally a full reflash of the APIM(Accesory Protocol Interface Module, SYNC's brain box) to unlock.
I have found a dead consistent workaround for this that I dont imagine ford would be willing to back, but it is rock solid reliable and relatively simple, it involves flashing a rom that does NOT include touchwiz. I am not familiar enough with these phones to say exactly what, however every phone I have attempted to pair/use with touchwiz has failed, with touchwiz, or stock touchwiz gone, and again, I am not familiar enough to say for sure, the problem disappears.
I have first hand used Bonsai(epic 4g) and Beautiful SGS4G(Galaxy S 4g) as well as CM7(Vibrant) and had zero problems pairing or using any functions with the vehicle. Phone calls, streaming audio, Pandora, Text messaging, navigation etc all work smoothly with no hangups or hitches since romming the phones.
Again I hope this is helpful and if i can help you directly, feel free to contact me via pm or in this thread, however pm is going to be the best way to get in touch with me.
A few quick things that I have consistenly observed...Blackberrys are trouble. SYNC does NOT like BB's. Sync is also very sporadic with non smart-phones. Regular ol dial only phones do not seem to be very compatible, even though there are some listed on the compatibility matrix. Mytouch systems(8" touchscreen navigation with a black background and 4 way grid homescreen with top left-phone, top right-nav/services, bottom left-audio, bottom right climate control) are VERY tempermental. SYNC systems(smaller MFD that is non touch screen, or newer mustangs/raptors etc) are much more forgiving and much hardier from my experience.
Take care!
Great information, thanks.
Hmm -- app possible to remote control a late model ford, like driving the thing around with nobody in it?
lol its not quite that integrated. So far our capabilities in the shop are not that far above what you can do as an end user. I would imagine they will tie remote start, unlock/lock, windows etc in probably by end of the 2013 m/y.
We have managed to run diagnostics through sync as its tied into the HS/MS can networks, but beyond basic code pulling and system network integrity tests we haven't been able to pull reliable data out. Nowhere near solid enough to do realtime diagnostics or fault tracking.
I own an Urbane 2nd LTE, and really like the build quality, look, and the promise of having a real "watch phone" However, I am quite disappointed with the need to tether to another phone. I desire a truly, tether free, stand alone, Adroid watch Phone, not android wear 2.0, which accepts nano sim cards. As I am aware of a number of Chinese watch phones, with similar specs, running full android 5.1 ( but I am assuming the build quality is limited with these watched), I am wondering if anyone has considered, attempted, or have been successful in loading full android on the Urbane 2nd? I scoured the threads as best I could, but did not find anything related to this.
My use case, I have a business phone and a personal phone. For evenings, weekends, and vacations, I would like to mostly disconnect, not carry a phone in my pocket, but still have the ability to take personal calls and access the internet in a pinch.
The cpu's plenty capable but isn't the screen size a problem? An older version, cupcake or donut or eclair, one that supports smaller screen resolution maybe
I've tried to install multiple phone apps (not their wear versions) on AW2.0 and even though some of them worked, their UI is not prepared for such a small screen. So even if you manage to run regular Android on the watch, many (most?) apps will be unusable due to the inability to correctly show their UI. I'm an Android developer and I don't test my apps on such small screens and I doubt any of them would work - buttons placed out of screen etc.
Kopec69 said:
I own an Urbane 2nd LTE, and really like the build quality, look, and the promise of having a real "watch phone" However, I am quite disappointed with the need to tether to another phone. I desire a truly, tether free, stand alone, Adroid watch Phone, not android wear 2.0, which accepts nano sim cards. As I am aware of a number of Chinese watch phones, with similar specs, running full android 5.1 ( but I am assuming the build quality is limited with these watched), I am wondering if anyone has considered, attempted, or have been successful in loading full android on the Urbane 2nd? I scoured the threads as best I could, but did not find anything related to this.
My use case, I have a business phone and a personal phone. For evenings, weekends, and vacations, I would like to mostly disconnect, not carry a phone in my pocket, but still have the ability to take personal calls and access the internet in a pinch.
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Isn't the purpose of the lg urbane 2nd edition LTE that it doesn't have to be tethered to your phone and that you can take it with you without your smartphone? I'm looking into buying this smartwatch but i don't know if i should wait a few more weeks/months when android wear 2.0 smartwatches come out.
froggerman said:
Isn't the purpose of the lg urbane 2nd edition LTE that it doesn't have to be tethered to your phone and that you can take it with you without your smartphone? I'm looking into buying this smartwatch but i don't know if i should wait a few more weeks/months when android wear 2.0 smartwatches come out.
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With AW 1.5 it was never meant to be completely standalone with all services functioning. With a SIM in the watch you can make calls/texts from the watch without any connection to the phone but in order to receive all notifications and use all services you need to be paired, but you can pair through cell data and still leave the phone at home. I leave my phone behind a few times a week and forward my calls to the watch. With 2.0 I'm sure it will be even more standalone but I haven't tested the DP yet.
mward1995 said:
With AW 1.5 it was never meant to be completely standalone with all services functioning. With a SIM in the watch you can make calls/texts from the watch without any connection to the phone but in order to receive all notifications and use all services you need to be paired, but you can pair through cell data and still leave the phone at home. I leave my phone behind a few times a week and forward my calls to the watch. With 2.0 I'm sure it will be even more standalone but I haven't tested the DP yet.
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With AW2.0 it can be really a separate device, but most of the apps don't support that and won't work without a phone. It will definitely get better with the final release and soon after.
rastik said:
With AW2.0 it can be really a separate device, but most of the apps don't support that and won't work without a phone. It will definitely get better with the final release and soon after.
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If DP5 does come with Android Pay, I may give it a try. I like the direction it's heading, but worry about the data increase. I'm using a pay as you go SIM in the watch and use very little data with 1.5. Of course I currently only activate the SIM when running. Curious to see if my usage/habits change much with the new standalone features.
Yes it is possible .
What is possible?
Running Android 5.1?
How?
Just curious - is there a list of compatible / working apps that can be side loaded onto the Urbane 2nd edition? Thanks
bchliu said:
Just curious - is there a list of compatible / working apps that can be side loaded onto the Urbane 2nd edition? Thanks
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A list of working sideloaded apps but mainly for wear 1.5 and not maintained anymore..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android-wear/general/list-sideloaded-android-wear-apps-t2908106
and from another thread on XDA my personal quest to find a working satnav app to sideload (as Google Maps is not in any way standalone...)
"...sideloaded Navigon 4.6.2 and its works and is useable standaone on my watch (a LG Watch Urbane 2nd Edition).
No back button means I need to use Wear 2.0s force close an app ability each time I change a setting in the program but once its set up it works. Maps all downloaded to the watch via wifi.
Screen is a little cluttered but useable, and it does take up a big chunk of memory on the watch, but for driving it works pretty well. (walking navigation screen is, sadly, unuseable). For the record it seems to use 1% of battery power every 2 minutes...meaning it could potentially last 3 hours!!"
I also run (sideloaded full android versions) es file explorer, bs player and imediashare (to dlna videos on the watch to a tv via wifi). They are all older versions but are all still usable on Wear 2.0.
ruggs1234 said:
A list of working sideloaded apps but mainly for wear 1.5 and not maintained anymore..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android-wear/general/list-sideloaded-android-wear-apps-t2908106
I also run (sideloaded full android versions) es file explorer, bs player and imediashare (to dlna videos on the watch to a tv via wifi). They are all older versions but are all still usable on Wear 2.0.
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Hi.. Just wondering where did you get the USB driver for the Urbane 2 from? I've looked everywhere and cannot find it specifically. Doesnt appear on my device manager properly..
bchliu said:
Hi.. Just wondering where did you get the USB driver for the Urbane 2 from? I've looked everywhere and cannot find it specifically. Doesnt appear on my device manager properly..
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To sideload full android apps I use ADB on my laptop. This uses the laptops usb link to my phone, my phone then "pushes" and installs the apk files to the watch via bluetooth. You start with the apks on the laptop and use the correct ADB commands to install to the watch. Slow, but it works.
The watch will not install apk files sideloaded directly to the watch.
Most full android apps will not run at all....but some do.....
(For explanation as to why I want the following, see below section)
I have an Alcatel Go Flip V under Verizon that I would like to get keyboard support on for bluetooth keyboards. It runs an AOSP fork and has no keyboard support. Bluetooth keyboards gave some connection error, vague enough to make me question if the decade-plus old keyboard's ancient standard caused issues, but even a wired keyboard refused to function. Some poking made me believe the device needs custom firmware to get even bluetooth keyboards to function, due to no support. I'm very much a noob, but here's what I know:
APKs cannot be run, though are recognized as such. NOT an 'unusable file' error
ABD shell and push/pull are firmware disabled
Some debug menus exist, but don't allow full ADB access or the like
Alcatel tends to lock down their phones pretty good
Is there any way to get keyboard support with or without hacking the device? I'll do testing on a spare that has some issues that warranted replacement, but still works fine for these purposes.
[Explanation]
I got the flip phone for the reason of getting a phone without artificial limits in place that is barely capable of browsing the web and cannot install games (for I get distracted easily) but can provide a hotspot for those times when my laptop is appropriate to use. I don't like artificial limits, as I am greatly tempted to remove them, so a smartphone is not a preferred solution (If it is the best solution I can just swap my SIM to my mom's old DROID MAXX 2). The flip phone is great most of the time, but the occasional time when I need to make longer messages made me wonder if I could find a 4g slide phone with a full QWERTY keyboard. The only ones I could find were Blackberries which still have that temptation issue mentioned above, and some HTC MyTouch device that's old and carrier-locked. This sent me down a rabbit hole trying to find if my current phone could support external keyboards, bluetooth or otherwise, which it did not, but made me wonder if I could get a modified OS that supported keyboards. I am willing to do anything short of hardware modification to the spare phone, as some hardware fault caused the screen to invert the colors and be mirrored on the vertical axis, making it nigh-unusable as a normal phone but perfect for testing.