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**** just got real for HD2s. Major props to Darkstone1337, using his build in my sig with no mods or set cpu Thanx to Cotulla & team for making all this possible for us HD2ers, we're living the dream
Seems like quadrants probably skipping a step or two. Everything else looks pretty good though.
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allthrottle said:
Seems like quadrants probably skipping a step or two. Everything else looks pretty good though.
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No step skipping, some of the build is stored in the RAM which is faster than NAND And to think I almost got a Vibrant
Htc hd2 quadrant score over 4000 without overclocking on super nand ram with magldr
phoenixtraveller said:
Hi.
What are people getting on quadrant scores with this (DARKSTONE super-nand-ram rom-IMG) ???
I got 4050. OVER 4000!!!
That is on an Australian HD2 (850mhz with 2.08 radio and magldr 1.11).
and NO OVER CLOCKING AND NO TWEAKS - second boot (first reboot).
Can you make this version compatible with 1536OC kernel or any OC kernel?
THANKS.
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ALSO: anyone tell me how to get Ubuntu working on NAND/MAGLDR?
using a loop device mounted in ram ?
not a real file system...
fards said:
using a loop device mounted in ram ?
not a real file system...
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No loop device, The majority of system, lib, & framework live there
I thought everyone understood that quadrant scores don't really mean anything anyway....
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deathsled said:
I thought everyone understood that quadrant scores don't really mean anything anyway....
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It is a nice way of getting a benchmark of a ROM, but it doesn't represent 'real' usage. Sometimes a device getting 2000 odd can easily out-do a device getting 3000+. It's not the most accurate test.
But getting 4000+ is pretty cool (provided it's legit )
not being mean, but there's no way in the world that anyone not overclocked (especially with an outdated cpu) is getting 4000 on quadrant. the dual core phones at 1GHz are only getting about 2600+. my personal quadrant score of 4055 is clocked at 1.8 GHz on the 2nd generation Snapdragon 1GHz processor. the HD2 has a first generation one. I realize quadrant isn't the most reliable, but 4000 doesn't exist for the first generation processor. By the way, what are they clocking up to at this point?
Assuming that this genuine..
I'll do what everyone seems to have missed saying, congratulations and well done!
Swyped from HTC Desire S using XDA Premium
I know that quandrant is not a good benchmark because the results depends on the hardware installed (CPU qualcomm or samsung or TI OMAP), but my question is:
Desire S in quadrant advanced reach a score of 3000 in the CPU section; the xperia arc, with the same CPU reach a score of 5500 in the cpu section. They are both on gingerbread....so why this difference?
Also the desire HD with froyo and the same Qualcomm CPU reach a 5500 score...
I can't uderstaind!
sorry 4 my english
My wife just got her Des S, and Mega jump is lagging
Quadrant score is 1000-1200
how can it happen with an Adreno 205 inside?
it has 1.28.401.1 ROM on it. do you experience it with other ROMs too?
liljom said:
My wife just got her Des S, and Mega jump is lagging
Quadrant score is 1000-1200
how can it happen with an Adreno 205 inside?
it has 1.28.401.1 ROM on it. do you experience it with other ROMs too?
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i've got no lag at all....
ilbulgaro89 said:
i've got no lag at all....
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no lag on Mega jump? not even when you pick up a rocket?
liljom said:
no lag on Mega jump? not even when you pick up a rocket?
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no lag at all in this game
ilbulgaro89 said:
no lag at all in this game
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and what is your Quadrant score?
liljom said:
and what is your Quadrant score?
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around 1240
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around 1240
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yeah, that is the max I can get too
the funny thing is, that my Desire HD with a Desire S port performs better; same CPU, GPU and screen resolution; and no lag in megajump :/
liljom said:
yeah, that is the max I can get too
the funny thing is, that my Desire HD with a Desire S port performs better; same CPU, GPU and screen resolution; and no lag in megajump :/
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yeah, I also do not explain the differences in benchmark scores with this 2 devices
i gave my opinion of why the lower scores in this thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036668
basically there has been a general trend on most phones that gingerbread performs lower than froyo on benchmark tests and performance. this is certainly been my experience. and since the desire s is running gingerbread, while the desire HD is running froyo (i think, right?), that is your answer right there...
Since the Desire S is the "first" device from HTC dressed in Gingerbread...can we safely say that it wasn't an optimized Gingy version that HTC brought up?
If all the Desire family get their Gingerbread update (Classic, HD, Z) and did perform well in benchmarking, that would leave Desire S...????
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i gave my opinion of why the lower scores in this thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036668
basically there has been a general trend on most phones that gingerbread performs lower than froyo on benchmark tests and performance. this is certainly been my experience. and since the desire s is running gingerbread, while the desire HD is running froyo (i think, right?), that is your answer right there...
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you are right
I run Gingerbread on my DHD, and the Quadrant is lower
I thought it's because we don't have the gingerbread sources for DHD, and we don't have the right drivers
but still, DHD has 1500-1600 in Quadrant (compare to 1200) with DS 1.28 port :/ and that's a big difference with the same CPU, GPU
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you are right
I run Gingerbread on my DHD, and the Quadrant is lower
I thought it's because we don't have the gingerbread sources for DHD, and we don't have the right drivers
but still, DHD has 1500-1600 in Quadrant (compare to 1200) with DS 1.28 port :/ and that's a big difference with the same CPU, GPU
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i ask it in this thread for this reason: dhd has an higher results with desire s gingebread porting......a my friend has in test a developer version of incredible s with gingerbread 2.3.3 and his quadrant score is 1450 (higher than desire s...but with same hardware)
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i ask it in this thread for this reason: dhd has an higher results with desire s gingebread porting......a my friend has in test a developer version of incredible s with gingerbread 2.3.3 and his quadrant score is 1450 (higher than desire s...but with same hardware)
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2 things can save us:
-we find the way to root DS
-we get a good update from HTC
DS is relatively still a "baby"
we'll get there eventually
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i ask it in this thread for this reason: dhd has an higher results with desire s gingebread porting......a my friend has in test a developer version of incredible s with gingerbread 2.3.3 and his quadrant score is 1450 (higher than desire s...but with same hardware)
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well maybe your friend's incredible s is overclocked, or he has some other type of customization that you are not aware of. because what i am trying to say is that, stock 2.2 vs stock 2.3, there is a performance and quadrant drop, significantly. stock 2.3 may get around 1250 quadrant, and stock froyo may get around 1650 quadrant. i get 1200 on 2.3, but i can over clock to maximum and get 1400. but somethign still isnt right, because i could over clock on 2.2 and get 1700.
also, people say quadrant scores are meaningless. but this has gotten mis interpreted on the web. quadrant scores are meaningless BETWEEN DIFFERENT PHONE MODELS. but quadrant definitely has meanign within the same device. so if your device runs 1600 on 2.2, then 1200 on 2.3, that is a meaningful piece of data. benchmark shows the ability of your phone to do various tasks like scroll a list, load some html or javascript, or parse a bunch of data. so it annoys me when others (not in this thread) say quadrant is meaningless. what the original statement meant was that lower device A could be optimized very well to be smooth, while higher device B could be better hardware, but optimized poorly to not be smooth, and a benchmark would not tell this story. i agree wtih that. but not within the same device i dont
i also see slower choppy scrolling in 2.3, for example tapatalk threads and lists were smooth in 2.2, but choppy and chunky in 2.3, etc. and the benchmark seems to agree with that.
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well maybe your friend's incredible s is overclocked, or he has some other type of customization that you are not aware of. because what i am trying to say is that, stock 2.2 vs stock 2.3, there is a performance and quadrant drop, significantly. stock 2.3 may get around 1250 quadrant, and stock froyo may get around 1650 quadrant. i get 1200 on 2.3, but i can over clock to maximum and get 1400. but somethign still isnt right, because i could over clock on 2.2 and get 1700.
also, people say quadrant scores are meaningless. but this has gotten mis interpreted on the web. quadrant scores are meaningless BETWEEN DIFFERENT PHONE MODELS. but quadrant definitely has meanign within the same device. so if your device runs 1600 on 2.2, then 1200 on 2.3, that is a meaningful piece of data. benchmark shows the ability of your phone to do various tasks like scroll a list, load some html or javascript, or parse a bunch of data. so it annoys me when others (not in this thread) say quadrant is meaningless. what the original statement meant was that lower device A could be optimized very well to be smooth, while higher device B could be better hardware, but optimized poorly to not be smooth, and a benchmark would not tell this story. i agree wtih that. but not within the same device i dont
i also see slower choppy scrolling in 2.3, for example tapatalk threads and lists were smooth in 2.2, but choppy and chunky in 2.3, etc. and the benchmark seems to agree with that.
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my friend's incredible s is a stock phone updated to Gingerbread via OTA today...without any type of hack...incredible s is not rooted!
My understanding was that Gingerbread is quite a bit slower than Froyo in Quadrant tests.
In real use though, it seems fine.
I suppose we'll have more idea when 2.3.3 upgrades become available for devices currently running 2.2.x.
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My understanding was that Gingerbread is quite a bit slower than Froyo in Quadrant tests.
In real use though, it seems fine.
I suppose we'll have more idea when 2.3.3 upgrades become available for devices currently running 2.2.x.
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Desire HD came out with 2.2, and now it runs 2.3, and yes, the Quadrant went down
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I suppose we'll have more idea when 2.3.3 upgrades become available for devices currently running 2.2.x.
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On htc-hero score was equal on 2.2 and 2.3 (both overclocked CM-ROMs)
On my NexuS with 2.3 I have scores about 2500 @ 1GHz (and crazy >3000 @ 1,4GHz)
On the DesireS I only get 1200 @ 1Ghz (equal performance gov or ondemand)
Wired is the totaly different fps: desireS has 50fps at the "planet3D" where Nexus has only 20fps; in the "doom3D" it is vice versa
But in everyday use there is no big difference - I tend to sell the NexuS, but really not sure wich phone I should keep..
i am running infused 1.3.1 andon quadrant i would score 1500-1750 but on smartbench i would get 915-1015 on cpu and pretty close to 3000 on gpu , i have two questions, are those score from smart bench good and secondly which should i take more seriously quadrant or smart bench
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i am running infused 1.3.1 andon quadrant i would score 1500-1750 but on smartbench i would get 915-1015 on cpu and pretty close to 3000 on gpu , i have two questions, are those score from smart bench good and secondly which should i take more seriously quadrant or smart bench
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None of it matters... The phone runs good doesn't it? that is all that should matter
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Wtf good is an insult its beyond good i came from iphone 3gs lol
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if you buy the full version of quadrant you get more information, i am totally against the idea of just stacking scores like quadrant does. that being said smart benchmark attempts to make a simple compsite score that is more relevant than the otheres do using some kind of algorithm to balance the weight of each componant, i dont agree with that either.
if you want to benchmark to figure out what you have improved specifically then get antutu or pay for quadrant but never look at the cumulative scores, it is totally irrelevant.
if you want to see how the performance compare acording to an algorithm get smart benchmark
if you want to be impressed with the phone, run a 3d/opengl benchmark. or otherwise play some H.264 codec .mkv videos at 720p (1080p also works but at a lower bitrate and class, the 720 video would likely look better) then try the same video on an atrix and an inspire.
Well...
I'm currently running
Faux 0.12 OC'd to max on 'ondemand'
Android Revolution HD 3.04
and I only get 2500-2600 on Quadernt benchmarks
I've heard of people that get 3000+ D:
How do I increase performance???
Quadrant is ****. That's all
¤Violets are red,
Roses are blue,
Wait, what?
I have no idea what I'm saying,
But you lost the game¤
Quadrant is also inconsistent. It will piss you off to no end, my friend. Try CF-Bench. I use that to see whether or not any "improvements" are such.
Matt
Get a crayon and draw a line.
Get a pencil and write any number you like under it.
As good as quadrant, any day.
Do you want a fast phone, or do you want some imaginary numbers?
Use cf bench and linpack to judge if changes made your phone better or worse.
As far as comparing numbers from one phone to another, forget it.
P.
I've heard linpack is the worst app ever from a lot of people so I don't trust that, at all.
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I've heard a lot about CF-Bench but never got around to using it. I definitely know not to use Quadrant but have always heard good things about Antutu (which I normally use). How does CF-Bench compare with Antutu for performance measuring accuracy?
I'm not usually a benchmark kinda dude, bt antutu can suck some pistachios, I always get inconsistent results with it, bt if anything ll run cf when I use a diff kernel just to c if any improvements
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Doesnt clock both processors. Use cf bench please. Thats why you are getting low scores
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yep, agree on CF bench, but if you really like higher quadrant points, you should try 2 things:
1. run quadrant a minimum of 5 times in a row, will increase your points on the last runs
2. put in class 10 sd card, will increase points a lot in comparison to class 4 stock card ..
Agreed on running CF Bench, Antu tu isn't bad either.
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yep, agree on CF bench, but if you really like higher quadrant points, you should try 2 things:
1. run quadrant a minimum of 5 times in a row, will increase your points on the last runs
2. put in class 10 sd card, will increase points a lot in comparison to class 4 stock card ..
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Whats the difference in sd class?
Some benches test r/w speeds of SD card and they affect bench score.
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Whats the difference in sd class?
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What are the more reliable, and accurate apps for benchmark, stressing, and monitoring?
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There are no benchmarks that accurately determine what the user experience will be like.
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There are no benchmarks that accurately determine what the user experience will be like.
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Interesting, I base user experience on function of software in conjunction with hardware, or compared to original factory software. The only accurate way to determine this is by stressing hardware to it failure point, each time a software component is changed/new code implements are added
So the question still remains, what do the people at xda use to benchmark, stress and monitor Android devices
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Androbench for I/O (or RL Benchmark for SQLite performance and SDCardTester or similar app for R/W speeds), Linpack for CPU, AnTuTu and CF-Bench for CPU/GPU/general performance (some people use Quadrant for GPU/CPU too, but it's been said not to be relevant anymore).