[Q] dock battery meter? - Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

is there a way to tell what is the battery level of the dock?

I am also very curious if there is a way to determine how much battery life is left in the dock.

Nope there isn't.

Thats not good

kojo2001 said:
Thats not good
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Not something Asus can do anything about either, Android isn't made to be compatible with battery docks. This is a completely new concept so yeah.

seshmaru said:
Not something Asus can do anything about either, Android isn't made to be compatible with battery docks. This is a completely new concept so yeah.
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Yes and no. Assus could add an api so that the battery level could be read. I know that ANT+ hardware is not supported in android, but sony-ericsson have them in there X10 mini and provide access via an api. My guess is that assus will provide support for battery level in future updates. New concepts ask some time.

What happens when the keyboard battery fully depletes, does it just become unresponsive?

No keyboard can be dead gets power through tablet
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Only way I know how is to plug it into the charger and look at the light pattern. The patterns are described in the manual. Also if it's not plugged in but drops below 10% the red light next to the charging plug will blink red (Asus calls it Orange in their manual).

I tend to disagree with everyone here.
my tablet has been in the dock for 2 days and the tablet was 100 going in and now its 97% i think my tablet might take into account the battery in the dock too. Theres no lighting bolt on the battery

biggiephat said:
I tend to disagree with everyone here.
my tablet has been in the dock for 2 days and the tablet was 100 going in and now its 97% i think my tablet might take into account the battery in the dock too. Theres no lighting bolt on the battery
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sorry if I'm coming off as a douchebag but it's plain wrong. Asus themselves have said the battery meter does not take the dock into account.

seshmaru said:
sorry if I'm coming off as a douchebag but it's plain wrong. Asus themselves have said the battery meter does not take the dock into account.
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then explain why this is happening

biggiephat said:
then explain why this is happening
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The dock isn't charged. When not attached to anything the dock still drains power on it's own. Fully charge your dock (2~3 hours) and tablet seperately to make sure they're both full, then attach the dock to the tablet and see if the battery meter starts draining right away.

seshmaru said:
The dock isn't charged. When not attached to anything the dock still drains power on it's own. Fully charge your dock (2~3 hours) and tablet seperately to make sure they're both full, then attach the dock to the tablet and see if the battery meter starts draining right away.
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docks charged...no lights have ever come on on it. wish there was more documentation about this dock. i was on 98% at 9am this morning. 15 hours later im at 97%...dock has to have something to do with that

biggiephat said:
docks charged...no lights have ever come on on it. wish there was more documentation about this dock. i was on 98% at 9am this morning. 15 hours later im at 97%...dock has to have something to do with that
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if no lights are on then it obviously isn't charged and the dock is running off tablet battery power.

seshmaru said:
if no lights are on then it obviously isn't charged and the dock is running off tablet battery power.
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sure....then im incredibly confused by this then....closing the lid when docked must practically turn everything off cause im still at 97% with 37 hours uptime.

biggiephat said:
sure....then im incredibly confused by this then....closing the lid when docked must practically turn everything off cause im still at 97% with 37 hours uptime.
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Your tablet obviously is going to sleep properly and doesn't have any apps causing many wakelocks when the screen is off. What happens is it drains the dock's battery first then after that drains the tablets battery. That's straight from Asus. What you're seeing is an affect of that. They've also said they are working on optimizing the way Android handles this second battery so we'll be seeing strange things with the meter until then.
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[Q] Tablet and Keyboard Dock battery drains when turned off???

I have had the tablet and the dock battery's drain all the way while connected and with the tablet turned off. I do have the latest firmware for the tablet and the dock.
Has anyone else had this issue?
The battery dock still has draining issues, even while off. I'm not sure why your tablet drained as well -- perhaps the dock started to charge it and tablet turned on due to it? or maybe the tablet started to charge the dock while it was draining and ended up both being dead.
yeah Im really not sure what happened but I do know when I went to turn on the tablet it started up and only had about 13% battery left when it was fully charged when I turned it off.
Check your wireless disconnect policies, if its set to Never then that might explain why.
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frosty5689 said:
Check your wireless disconnect policies, if its set to Never then that might explain why.
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Im not sure where to check that.
OFF as in you held the power button until it asked if you wanted to shut off, or SLEEP, as in just tapped the power button (or lock button on the keyboard)?
The Lock key on the keyboard, or just tapping the power button puts the unit in SLEEP, which is not really sleeping, it just turns off the screen and depending on your wireless power policy, WiFi may still be on. Apps still run. Stuff still communicates with the interwebs.
off as in i held the power button and hit shut down.
Mine is doing it as well. Did a complete shutdown yesterday after fully charging both the pad and dock. Just turned it on and the dock is blinking orange. I also had the WiFi disabled. Even when you do a shutdown it seems something is not shutting down.
-M
ASUS never said that they fix the dock battery drain issue while tablet is docked and powered off. Have they?
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ASUS never said that they fix the dock battery drain issue while tablet is docked and powered off. Have they?
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im not sure. At least i know its not just me.
I hope they push the update where we can see the battery live for the dock soon.
Mine is doing the same thing. Keyboard was charged when I closed the lid and then blinking 6 to 8 hrs later. Wasn't doing this with firmware .12 with the keyboard battery indicator. I really hope they bring back some of the .12 features soon.
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My keyboard dock no longer seems to hold much if any charge, I left it charging yesterday until the keyboard dock light stopped flashing and stays on steady (I assume that means its full) and now 4 hours later the keyboard dock light is flashing and no longer charging the tablet.
if i recall, this is a known issue with the dock. When not in use, it will still drain the battery. If plugged into the tablet at the time, im pretty sure the tablet will drain also. I think asus is aware and i thought i saw somewhere that there will be a fix once 3.1 is out, that will put the dock into a very low power state when not in use.
so i guess we will see once 3.1 is out
friedgoldmole said:
My keyboard dock no longer seems to hold much if any charge, I left it charging yesterday until the keyboard dock light stopped flashing and stays on steady (I assume that means its full) and now 4 hours later the keyboard dock light is flashing and no longer charging the tablet.
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I believe only Solid Green is full.
Interesting I've only when seen a solid orange light, perhaps that just means charging, will try again tonight.
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Same issue. Had a fully charged dock and a partially charged Transformer.
Was very pleased to see the tablet start to charge when I docked it, and not so pleased when I got up in the morning and both were dead.
Gary13579 said:
Tablet and Keyboard Dock battery drains when turned off
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Leave it turned on then
Just for the record, I have the same issue. Dock battery drains really quickly when turned off and in sleep mode.
checkbox111 said:
Leave it turned on then
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that might be a good idea it might not drain as fast!
Does it help if I leave the tablet and the dock disconnected when turned off?

Dock Battery Issue

Hey guys,
I'm reading through the dock threads and I see a lot of issues with the battery, but I didn't see anyone with the same problem as me. Maybe it's not a problem, but I figured I'd put it out there just to make sure.
Sometimes my dock will read at 0% battery, then suddenly spike up to the proper battery percentage. It usually happens after it's asleep, then wakes up. Last night I had charged the dock to 100%, then unplugged and plugged into the tablet a short while later. It was reporting 0% and had a flashing orange light. I then charged it today and it held the charge, but still doing the strange 0% to "real" percent thing.
I have both a B60 dock and B60 tablet and I am using Prime 1.7 ROM.
Has anyone heard of this? Is my dock bad? I can still RMA it as it's brand new.
Thanks!
I did a test last night by fully charging the keyboard then plugging it into my tab at 17% battery. When I woke up, the dock had 3% and the tab had 76%. This seems pretty on par with what I'd expect. I just don't want to charge the tab and have it not hold a charge at all.
How do you even know how much your dock is charged?
I use a couple of the dual battery widgets (still haven't decided on one). I sent my dock in for repair on the drainage issue a couple weeks ago. Since getting it back I have noticed that when I wake the tablet up, it can take a long time (Sometimes up to ~5-10 minutes for the dock battery to show the correct voltage). I had upgraded to 3.2 while the dock was out for repair, so don't know if its something with the new dock hardware, or a 3.2 issue.
The other day had the dock reading 0 and even after an hour of use, never did show it had a charge. Thought I was screwed because I had read several threads that said if you ran the dock down to 0, they couldn't ever get it to charge again. Plugged it in overnight and let it set, fired it up the next morning and both were at 95+%.
mikelt89 said:
How do you even know how much your dock is charged?
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Would also like to know - is there a setting on the transformer that allows me to view the docks battery status?
Thanks
mikelt89 said:
How do you even know how much your dock is charged?
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321eod said:
Would also like to know - is there a setting on the transformer that allows me to view the docks battery status?
Thanks
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When you click the notification bar, it says "Docking Connected" and then the dock battery percentage to the right. I'm assuming that is the dock battery percentage... I'm not sure if it's part of the rom, but I think I remember it being there when I was stock.
lordgodgeneral said:
I use a couple of the dual battery widgets (still haven't decided on one). I sent my dock in for repair on the drainage issue a couple weeks ago. Since getting it back I have noticed that when I wake the tablet up, it can take a long time (Sometimes up to ~5-10 minutes for the dock battery to show the correct voltage). I had upgraded to 3.2 while the dock was out for repair, so don't know if its something with the new dock hardware, or a 3.2 issue.
The other day had the dock reading 0 and even after an hour of use, never did show it had a charge. Thought I was screwed because I had read several threads that said if you ran the dock down to 0, they couldn't ever get it to charge again. Plugged it in overnight and let it set, fired it up the next morning and both were at 95+%.
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Thanks for chiming in. I'm thinking this might just be a software issue and not a dock issue then. I'll see how things go over the next few weeks.

[Q] Is it bad to always have my Transformer Docked?

I kinda like them always together and then just separate them whenever I want to use the Tablet alone.
Will there be any detrimental effects like the Total battery life will lessen after a long time?
i dont believe so, i run mine that way now, mostly a tablet but every once in a while ill disconnect it and run the batteries to 0 just to get a recharge.
blessedswine said:
i dont believe so, i run mine that way now, mostly a tablet but every once in a while ill disconnect it and run the batteries to 0 just to get a recharge.
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Thanks! I was afraid 'cause I've heard rumors that if you leave phones charging overnight or if you always have laptops plugged in, the battery life would lessen eventually.
with all battery powered electronics i allow them to discharge fully once a month.
yuhenyo said:
Thanks! I was afraid 'cause I've heard rumors that if you leave phones charging overnight or if you always have laptops plugged in, the battery life would lessen eventually.
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There have been reports of some docks with horrible battery drain. Test yours with these instructions I got in a PM a few months ago from someone representing themselves as from Asus (many other XDA members got the same PM). I RMA'ed my dock after testing and it's been great since.
The following is a step-by-step guide on how to verify if your unit can support the new optional battery saving mode:
(1) Make sure your software is updated to 8.2.3.13 or later; and your mobile dock is updated to 0209. ([Setting]>[About Tablet]>[Build Number] & [Mobile Dock version])
(2) Dock the Pad into the keyboard dock.
(3) Go to [Settings] > [Screen] and select [MobileDock Battery saving mode]
(4) Press power button on the Transformer Pad to make the unit go to sleep.
(5) With the option checked, if your unit does NOT wake up with the tap of a keyboard, the new battery saving mode is enabled and working.
(6) With [MobileDock Battery saving mode] checked,iIf your unit still wakes up by a key press, you have the earlier design.
(7) If #6 is true and you also require the new feature, then please contact your local ASUS service center “
yuhenyo said:
Thanks! I was afraid 'cause I've heard rumors that if you leave phones charging overnight or if you always have laptops plugged in, the battery life would lessen eventually.
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I've not really experienced this, so much as in my personal opinion: my phones battery life has lessened considerably since I spent a few weeks of running it down to the at or near the single digits between charges. Can't say for sure though, since what also changed since then, I use it a hell of a lot more too. Now're days I will usually leave it charging if it will be sitting around a while.
My TF, the dock is often depleted or laid low without any real problems; can't say I've done the same to the tablets battery though.
Spidey01 said:
I've not really experienced this, so much as in my personal opinion: my phones battery life has lessened considerably since I spent a few weeks of running it down to the at or near the single digits between charges. Can't say for sure though, since what also changed since then, I use it a hell of a lot more too. Now're days I will usually leave it charging if it will be sitting around a while.
My TF, the dock is often depleted or laid low without any real problems; can't say I've done the same to the tablets battery though.
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owww.. another question is that would the dock ever lose power while connected to the table?t? ' cause mine still has 3% and it stopped charging the tablet.
In the case of Lithium Ion batteries (which most smart phones and tablets have nowadays, including both TF and dock), it is detrimental to let them discharge to 0% and then fully recharge. It is always best to charge whenever possible, and even leaving your TF plugged in overnight is not bad at all for the life of your battery.
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In the case of Lithium Ion batteries (which most smart phones and tablets have nowadays, including both TF and dock), it is detrimental to let them discharge to 0% and then fully recharge. It is always best to charge whenever possible, and even leaving your TF plugged in overnight is not bad at all for the life of your battery.
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wow! great! now all my worries are gone. I guess I'll charge away then.
yuhenyo said:
owww.. another question is that would the dock ever lose power while connected to the table?t? ' cause mine still has 3% and it stopped charging the tablet.
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When I first got my TF, I was curious as to whether or not the dock would stop working once it had ran out of battery; testing it, I found the sae result. Dock sticks about 3% and the tablet continues to discharge. I assume the docking connector works both ways and allows powering the dock off the tablet.
I prefer to charge before then though, usually at like 35~19 %. When I undock, I usually leave the dock plugged in to top off, even if it was like 80%.

It is possible to stop charging the tablet and continue charging the Keyboard

Just asking: there is some chance to stop charging the tablet whie is still charging the mobile dock keyboard?
Im using a lot this days the tablet like a mini laptop. But I don't want to overcharge the tablet. The thing is that when the battery of both are very low obviosly you have to charge it, but always the tablet reach 100% before the keyboard, and I want to charge both to 100% (you know good care of battery). The Question... There is some app or something to stop charging the tablet when gets 100% and only charge the keypad?
I don't want always have to remove the keypad to charge this alone and wait for the green light.
Thanks
Hmm
I believe even while docked, and the monitor stating it is at 100% charge, I believe it goes to full charge and then loops between 97% charge and 100% to keep from ruining the battery. I am not 100% positive but most OS these days do that for battery protection by default.
Tylor
PesSarmiento said:
There is some app or something to stop charging the tablet when gets 100% and only charge the keypad?
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That feature is built-in. You cannot overcharge the tablet.
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That feature is built-in. You cannot overcharge the tablet.
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Yes. Just wonder.... I think there is no way.

[Q]

So a few days ago my device started to shut down at 15-20% battery. I use an battery app which makes me se how many % it is left on the battery and the original charge meter seems to be consistent with the app. It also doesnt let me start the device again unless I have a charger in. Another wierd thing is that i am not sure it is charging at all because it does not show in the icon sometimes... (I am writing this while making these observations )
I use the docking station mostly, could this mess things up when i only use the device itself?
I docked the device at 16% and after a few min of youtube it just crashed like before, not a regular shut down.
Is the battery busted because I use it constantly for the past 8 months? I mean I put it in sleep mode when I dont use it but I almost never shut it off.
Wierd, I think it stops charging the device if you leave it alone for a while. It shows it charges the docking station though. I would try other power outlets but somehow i feel it is connected to the first issue I had.
Stammis said:
So a few days ago my device started to shut down at 15-20% battery. I use an battery app which makes me se how many % it is left on the battery and the original charge meter seems to be consistent with the app. It also doesnt let me start the device again unless I have a charger in. Another wierd thing is that i am not sure it is charging at all because it does not show in the icon sometimes... (I am writing this while making these observations )
I use the docking station mostly, could this mess things up when i only use the device itself?
I docked the device at 16% and after a few min of youtube it just crashed like before, not a regular shut down.
Is the battery busted because I use it constantly for the past 8 months? I mean I put it in sleep mode when I dont use it but I almost never shut it off.
Wierd, I think it stops charging the device if you leave it alone for a while. It shows it charges the docking station though. I would try other power outlets but somehow i feel it is connected to the first issue I had.
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Sorry stammis but neither your topic nor your post makes much sense to me.
Your problem is with the tablet docked or undocked?????
It may be a battery calibration problem. Some users have solved this by letting the battery drain in sleep or standby for a day or two.
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berndblb said:
Sorry stammis but neither your topic nor your post makes much sense to me.
Your problem is with the tablet docked or undocked?????
It may be a battery calibration problem. Some users have solved this by letting the battery drain in sleep or standby for a day or two.
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Yeah i am sorry i am rambling here, i made a new post about the same issue. Its called "power down with 15% battery left"

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