Blackberry Torch - any good? - General Questions and Answers

I'm wanting to try something different and for the low price at AT&T, I might just consider a BB Torch. I saw one user review that said it was an advancement over the Bold. Anyone have any experience with the Torch?

There is a lot of hate directed at that device from corporate users. I don't think id blow an upgrade ob one. You can get them reasonably cheap on ebay since people like to dump them. The new one they have coming out with the 7.0 OS might make it worth it.
I run a corporate BES infrastructure and I have dozens of those out there and almost all users that get one ask to be switched to iphones.
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beatphreek said:
There is a lot of hate directed at that device from corporate users. I don't think id blow an upgrade ob one. You can get them reasonably cheap on ebay since people like to dump them. The new one they have coming out with the 7.0 OS might make it worth it.
I run a corporate BES infrastructure and I have dozens of those out there and almost all users that get one ask to be switched to iphones.
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Sounds like the Pearl Flip. I had a Flip and it was the worst phone ever created. I actually believed RIM put out the Flip to measure how much hate they could withstand.
For me, all it takes is the slightest negative to turn down a BB device. And you just provided it...lol. That Flip was so bad I swore never to even look at BBs again. But that was a long time ago and figured maybe things might be different now. Apparently not.

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Amazon: Thunderbolt available for purchase 2/14

Check out the link.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/02/08/ooh-htc-thunderbolt-launching-on-the-14th-according-to-amazon/
They took down the date after they put that up.
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Verizon is just having fun with these dates i think!
keeping people on the edge of their seats with infomation then more to disprove it
just release the date already or come out and say that your having problems
They ( vzw) are hoping the delay will make you buy an iphone indstead. ha-ha .
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Hah! i would never use a Iphone again, tried one out and i just hated not being able to customize. I like being different not like everyone else
if it were up to Apple we would all wear the same thing, talk the same way and buy their stupid products
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Hah! i would never use a Iphone again, tried one out and i just hated not being able to customize. I like being different not like everyone else
if it were up to Apple we would all wear the same thing, talk the same way and buy their stupid products
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And who is so stupid to by an iPhone 4 a few months before the iPhone 5 comes out? Verizon sold 500,000 dumb phones on presale day? I guess when the main attraction of your phone is the looks and playing angry birds; it doesn't matter which version you have.
superchilpil said:
Hah! i would never use a Iphone again, tried one out and i just hated not being able to customize. I like being different not like everyone else
if it were up to Apple we would all wear the same thing, talk the same way and buy their stupid products
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The execs at vzw don't understand all that , we (xda) are about 3% of their customer base so they aren't going to bend over backwards for us like they do for the people with "stock" unmodified phones.
This crap has been going on for years,delays on hot smartphones.
You don't see delays on the iphone.
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G2X Price Drops..?

Anyone else a bit taken back by the drastic price drops on the G2X? Not in a good way... I feel like the G2X could be the Vibrant all over again...
Discovered here:
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/T-Mobile-G2x/G2x-now-a-FREE-PHONE-0-01/td-p/855257
Sourced here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...810-48N679-1F00&creativeASIN=B0251X53PD_notag
"The best technology never makes you think about it. It's just always brilliant."
- LG G2X Amazon Page
I'm sorry but with all the problems this phone has against it (similar to the Vibrant): Overheating, Shotty Network/Data Connections, Reboots, Lock-ups it seems like T-Mobile is readying for another magic trick. Granted, from what I've gathered reading these forums certain problems (mentioned above) could be completely unrelated. I personally feel that the poorly tinkered network/data connect software T-Mobile f***ed into this phone coupled with the completely separate battery issues are reeking havoc on the phones in a variety of ways.
Just a thought.
As a past Vibrant user (unfortunately) I felt compelled to report the similarities arising again... and all the Vibrant base got [after their woes] was a ****ty Froyo update and the Samsung Galaxy S 4G releasing swiftly via T-Mobile.
I really thought the Vibrant must've been a fluke for T-Mobile, as it was my first leap into the smartphone & Android markets (came from a flip phone, no txts or data). Seems I was wrong in my judgement for trusting them with a second/different product. Don't get me wrong... This phone is great (in theory) but so far it is dragging with bugs and this leaves me torn... =/
Your looking into it way way to much..... All phones on tmobile go on a quick sale... I bought a vibrant for 250 starting my contract in august.... a month later I buy one for a add a line for my brother for 50 bucks..... Its just the tmobile way... A droid x is still 200 in my area.... And a epic 4g is 150
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nate420 said:
Your looking into it way way to much..... All phones on tmobile go on a quick sale... I bought a vibrant for 250 starting my contract in august.... a month later I buy one for a add a line for my brother for 50 bucks..... Its just the tmobile way... A droid x is still 200 in my area.... And a epic 4g is 150
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Hm... perhaps. I'll think it over a nice bowl to cool the thoughts down a bit lol, 4:20 is coming a little early this morning I suppose.
I guess I just want a phone that works [ultimately]... Seems like the T-Mobile way is to release half-assed, beta quality products (at least in these eyes, I understand experiences vary). I went along thinking T-Mobile was a great company until I jumped on the Android bandwagon. Guess one can't get too butt-hurt over a company acting as soulless as they do sometimes... it's in their nature. =/
Coming from a vibrant I see where u are coming from. It was the biggest pile of a phone I have ever had. It was also my first android experience after being an avid bb user.
I do see some short comings in my g2x but I hope things don't get bad. I also despise Samsung as a company and blame the vibrant fails on them. It seems ateast to me they push a product hard and never support it. They did the same thing on a TV I bought. After there lack of support on the vibrant I will never own another Samsung product. I just hope the g2x is not the same way.
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I respect your point of view but I disagree with you.
I come from a Galaxy S 4G and this phone is way better and faster.
If you are experiencing those kind of issues, I would advise you to exchange it. I haven't really experience those kind of issues and the only real problem to me has been data disconnecting.
Now that I have flashed many ROM's I have come to the conclusion that EB 1.04 is the best and not many disconnections since I settle.
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As far as the price drops go..yeah im kinda mad. Im off contract and payed 530. 300 cash and 230 on my bill. But its annoying.
blestsol said:
As far as the price drops go..yeah im kinda mad. Im off contract and payed 530. 300 cash and 230 on my bill. But its annoying.
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Are you still able to return it?
Then just buy one off amazon.
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moshe22 said:
Are you still able to return it?
Then just buy one off amazon.
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it's still 509 on amazon without a contract tho
I just paid 499 off contract...
If its a contract price I wouldnt pay to much attention to it. I feel they discount the phones to bring it more customers!
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it's still 509 on amazon without a contract tho
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Oh well I guess thats not so bad.
This is always the case with phones through places like Walmart and Amazon.

Droid prime to soon

The droid prime is suppose to be the successor to the droid charge, that's my problem with android. The charge just came out a couple of months back, and yet to receive a major update! What samsung should be doing is updating there flag ship phones first, there just selfish, knowing people will continue buying there new products they just leave us to rot. these phones come out way to fast, can we get a chance to enjoy the phone with gb first? The prime will probably be out before we even get gb smh. HELLO SAMSUNG AND VERIZON, THE DROID CHARGE IS ONE OF YOUR FLAGSHIP DEVICES, UPDATE TO THE LATEST SOFTWARE!, THEY RELEASE A BUGGY PHONE FOR NEARLY 600$ AND I GOT MINE FREE! JUST IMAGINE IF I WOULD'VE PAID I'D BE REALLY PISSED. bottom line is the droid charge is a great phone and I want to use it to its full potential before I upgrade to a newer device.spread the word care for your customers
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So would you rather they release buggy software prematurely to fix a buggy phone? They've been working on GB (and it's been leaking), which is why I've been enjoying GB for well over a month. Anyways, what you're upset about is the way the cell phone industry tends to work. They're not going to stop updating their model lines just because they haven't put out an update for existing models yet.
Just imagine how Thunderbolt owners feel.
Correction: Droid(Nexus) Prime time is a Nexus successor.
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phone envy is frequent for me personally
whenever a new phone comes out i get pissed i bought my previous one
but honestly the prime and charge have little connection to each other...if the prime is a nexus phone then basically its a samsung designed phone that google does the software for, so it would have no impact whatsoever on touchwiz updates for the charge
samsung has submitted dozens of builds to verizon and from what i can see each one gets better and better
is it annoying that there is no official gb yet? sure but the same could be said for the fascinate or even worse no official FROYO for the continuum
vzw and samsung combo equals slow updates
its a reality of buying from those two and its not a secret (droid branding or not)
the thunderbolt doesnt have official gb either fwiw nor the lg lte phone
i personally have an inc2 and wont be pissed when the vigor comes out (same time frame inc2 launch to vigor vs charge launch to prime)...granted i have several upgrades and will probably just go pick that up too
The Droid Prime is likely NOT to be a Nexus device (or else it would have the Nexus name). It's software will most likely be managed by Verizon, rather than Google, and probably carry all of the crapware we've all come to know and love hate.
Phone dev cycles seem to be roughly bi-annually to quarterly, depending on the software and hardware available. At any given time, any one dev shop (HTC, Samsung, wherever) will be simultaneously be working on at least 2 software versions for any given device (as evidenced by the lower build date on the Fascinate's initial GB leak compared to the final FroYo leak).
And to pick some nits with the OP:
supposed, their, they're, their, too
Thank you BGR for starting the DROID Prime rumor. NO ONE knows what the device will be when it shows up, when it will show up, or much of anything else about it. We have a few unconfirmed details, but that is it. The people that do know what the device will be called aren't talking. Also, just because it is labeled with DROID doesn't mean that it won't be a Google Experience Phone. Unless you have physical proof of what you're talking about, it would be great of everyone to stop with the DROID Prime rumor until the actual device name is announced.
Another thing is, touch wiz 4 is out.so why aren't we going to get the latest update of touchwiz? Thats just bs, if you have updated software, update your damn your damn phones to the latest software! Whats an update if there not updating the ui
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juanzr1 said:
Another thing is, touch wiz 4 is out.so why aren't we going to get the latest update of touchwiz? Thats just bs, if you have updated software, update your damn your damn phones to the latest software! Whats an update if there not updating the ui
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Could be that features of TW4 require something specific to the SGS2 phone. Or, Samsung doesn't want to back-port it on their own. Either way, nothing you can really do about it.
If you buy a car, and they change the features on the next model year, do you go and complain to the car manufacturer/dealer like this? You're spending significantly more than $600 for a new car, so I'd hope so...
Smells like buyers remorse in here.
There's a thread like this one in every phone's forum on XDA without exception.
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imnuts said:
Could be that features of TW4 require something specific to the SGS2 phone. Or, Samsung doesn't want to back-port it on their own. Either way, nothing you can really do about it.
If you buy a car, and they change the features on the next model year, do you go and complain to the car manufacturer/dealer like this? You're spending significantly more than $600 for a new car, so I'd hope so...
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They have the software, and its not hardware that I'm complaining about, but software updates like touch wiz 4 should even be on the fascinate, and no buyers remorse here since I didn't even buy the phone. Its just how it should be, but no problem, I will get the samsung prime knowing they won't be able to improve the next gen devices by alot.the wave of android phones will slow down significantly. Peace xda family
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charlie_c said:
Smells like buyers remorse in here.
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Nope didn't even buy the phone, I'm still eligible for an upgrade
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Coming to the Charge from the Fascinate I knew damn well that this would happen but I took it anyway as it was the best option (and still is... LOL bionic), and I don't regret it at all... if you haven't figured out by now that there's gonna be a new phone out every six months or so thats 10 times better than your current one then you must be new to android... I know it must take a lot to try and update the tons of phones a carrier has on each cell provider, making specific coding changes to get it to work with the individual phones hardware and whatnot so I don't mind and will be more than happy to burn an upgrade or drop some money on the new beast thats out at the time
imnuts said:
Also, just because it is labeled with DROID doesn't mean that it won't be a Google Experience Phone. Unless you have physical proof of what you're talking about, it would be great of everyone to stop with the DROID Prime rumor until the actual device name is announced.
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Exactly. Motorola Droid, anyone? Google Experience phone(even though I don't remember if it had any of the Verizon bloatware)
juanzr1 said:
Nope didn't even buy the phone, I'm still eligible for an upgrade
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That includes quite a high percentage of people on this forum...lol
Is there any confirmation that the Prime is even going to be released on Verizon?
DirgeExtinction said:
Exactly. Motorola Droid, anyone? Google Experience phone(even though I don't remember if it had any of the Verizon bloatware)
Your right, hopefully droid prime gets pure google like the motorola droid did
That includes quite a high percentage of people on this forum...lol
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juanzr1 said:
The droid prime is suppose to be the successor to the droid charge, that's my problem with android. The charge just came out a couple of months back, and yet to receive a major update!
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Buy an iCrap if you want boxed up updates with a nice bow and personal nametag.
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THEY RELEASE A BUGGY PHONE FOR NEARLY 600$ AND I GOT MINE FREE!
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I DID pay for this phone and am in no way pissed at samsung or verizon. You got the phone for free, so shut your mouth and count your blessings.
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there just selfish, knowing people will continue buying there new products they just leave us to rot
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Technology changes faster than a retards underwear.
Also, aren't the samsung droid charge devs on xda? What updates aren't you getting
Last thing....
Your problem with android is superior technology and forward motion?
I guess im confused.
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juanzr1 said:
Nope didn't even buy the phone, I'm still eligible for an upgrade
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Buyer/owner, whatever...my point was that you sound like you don't want the phone in its current state. I'm running a Gingerbread ROM with the TouchWiz 4.0 launcher. If your biggest complaint is the lack of those two things, they've both been available for those willing to put them on the phone themselves.
juanzr1 said:
They have the software, and its not hardware that I'm complaining about, but software updates like touch wiz 4 should even be on the fascinate, and no buyers remorse here since I didn't even buy the phone. Its just how it should be, but no problem, I will get the samsung prime knowing they won't be able to improve the next gen devices by alot.the wave of android phones will slow down significantly. Peace xda family
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It's called technology ... it's moving forward. Once the phones catch up to the current technology, the onslaught of phones will stop ... just like you stated. The fact you even brought this up, about a phone that details about the phone aren't even released yet. Much less even said to be released on the Verizon network ... is redundant in itself. You're a troll, and must be treated as such. I would ignore any comments this moron makes just for the simple fact he's moaning about a device he may not even see. Not to mention ... Droid Charge isn't even Verizon's "flagship" phone. That would be the Bionic. Have a nice day.
Rythmyc said:
It's called technology ... it's moving forward. Once the phones catch up to the current technology, the onslaught of phones will stop ... just like you stated. The fact you even brought this up, about a phone that details about the phone aren't even released yet. Much less even said to be released on the Verizon network ... is redundant in itself. You're a troll, and must be treated as such. I would ignore any comments this moron makes just for the simple fact he's moaning about a device he may not even see. Not to mention ... Droid Charge isn't even Verizon's "flagship" phone. That would be the Bionic. Have a nice day.
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Hater, your the troll I just said what was on my mind about the manufacturer never said the droid charge wasn't a great phone so how am I trolling, I dislike people like you who come on the forum just to talk smack about a person's thoughts, speak on the subject not about me you punk.have a good day, you need it.
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[Q] The Best Bet Of My Life?

So two weeks ago, I got my Galaxy S3 And today I saw my friend for the first time in a few weeks. He got an iPhone 5 while I got my S3. So we talked about how each of our respective phones was better. We ended by me betting that my S3 will last longer than his iPhone 5 in terms of who will get updates the longest. Whoever won would pay the next upgrade...and I'm pretty sure that I won't have $200 to spare two years from now.
My main question is whether or not you think I made a pretty good bet or not. I hope I did Thoughts?
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So two weeks ago, I got my Galaxy S3 And today I saw my friend for the first time in a few weeks. He got an iPhone 5 while I got my S3. So we talked about how each of our respective phones was better. We ended by me betting that my S3 will last longer than his iPhone 5 in terms of who will get updates the longest. Whoever won would pay the next upgrade...and I'm pretty sure that I won't have $200 to spare two years from now.
My main question is whether or not you think I made a pretty good bet or not. I hope I did Thoughts?
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You realize this is not a Nexus, right?
I don't think that was a safe bet. The iphones have a great track record of getting updates compared to Samsungs and even androids in general, IMO.
I didn't mention officially or not lol
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You should probably think a bit more carefully about your finances if you can't have an extra 200 dollars in two years.
Good thing you'll have 6 months between when they cut you off from updates at around 18 months and the end of your contract at 24. It'll give you time to come up with 400 bucks. 200 for your next phone (min.) and 200 for his.
No matter how good devs are..... at the rate things change with Android, even if you get a port of whatever OS Android uses at the time, I bet it won't have all the features, have glitches due to hardware limitations or unavailable drivers for months.
May I suggest marry rich or perhaps a second job?
Your best shots are
A) Hope your friend doesn't know better that you are flashing ROMS
B) Don't be friends in 2 years, the time honored way of escaping serious long term bets
From prior experience most droid only get updated for about a year then start to fall off think you may have made a boo boo on this one
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Don't worry get the s4 and he went even know. After all he is an iphone user.
On a different Note is that all you two could come with? How long you would get updates?
Remember that the ancient iPhone 3g is still running the newest updates
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the most retarded bet ever imo...the ibone obviously will get more updates, refer to what heshmonster said. apple only has 5 devices to release updates for in 5yrs time. Android has hundreds...dont take this the wrong way but android devices are like disposable cameras, once the film runs out they are trash. that being said i still will never get a iphone!
he can always hope Samsung finally wins a lawsuit and all the iphones get banned!
He can also hope for world peace though, just sayin'
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the most retarded bet ever imo...the ibone obviously will get more updates, refer to what heshmonster said. apple only has 5 devices to release updates for in 5yrs time. Android has hundreds...dont take this the wrong way but android devices are like disposable cameras, once the film runs out they are trash. that being said i still will never get a iphone!
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Well, 6, but who's counting?
Ya you lost that bet. Might as well pay now. He was a smart cookie for taking that bet though.
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The bet seems too vague considering that both devices can be flashed with hacked up firmware.
On the one side, I kept my original Moto Droid from the day it launched to the day I got my SGS3 preorder in the mail.
This is while I watched many colleagues go through many iterations of the iphone, each time buying an entirely new device.
The original Moto Droid actually just got JellyBean, and I know the original iphone can not even kind of run iOS 4, much less iOS 6.
If anything the iphone is the disposable camera in this scenario. Ever try to get anything above iOS 3 on a second generation iPod touch and you will know what I mean.
Back on topic though, the bet will not have a clear winner in 2 years. Try 4 years and you will see which device has the most longevity.
Ta,
ALQI
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I can imagine in the heat of the moment, we like to think that products like ours (with a popular modding community behind it) gives it a longer life span since modders will typically add new features from other phones to this one.
Horrible bet.
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Anyone think these might be good Phones

I have ordered stuff from this place many many times. Never Cell Phones. What are your guys options? They are cheap. Also does anyone know if any of these are being worked on by XPA developers? thanks
http://www.lightinthebox.com/c/android-cell-phones_3309
Never heard of them, quickly glanced at a couple and they seem to be 2-3 year old technology. Plus being they are trying to mimic popular phones I will also assume build quality is as cheap as the price hints at.
Granted I know nothing about these phones so take my opinion with a grain of salt... but I have almost always had less the good experiences with knock off brands from over seas
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These definitely look interesting. Would be cool to get some hands on time. These are probably cheap Chinese phones that are garbage in functionality and build. If you have had good customer service from them and they have a return policy, then give it a try and let us know how it goes.
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rosevilletoyota said:
I have ordered stuff from this place many many times. Never Cell Phones. What are your guys options? They are cheap. Also does anyone know if any of these are being worked on by XPA developers? thanks
http://www.lightinthebox.com/c/android-cell-phones_3309
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They're not cheap for what they are, cheap. If you buy one, you must have the mindset of a professional gambler, that the odds are in favour of the "House", and be prepared to lose everything.
They're not that cheap. You'd do better buying something off Craigslist.
But I did buy my son a Chinese knockoff of a Blackberry, dual SIM, any gsm radio standard in the civilized world, off ebay for $25. Seems pretty robust, nice display, music player, fm radio, works on any gsm mvno. Now that's good value.
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I bought a couple ifauxnes a few years back as a prank... long story... but they appear as if they would be similar build quality to them which was sub par and exactly what I was expectfing. If you are planing on these to be your daily driver I would suggest picking up something else
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These are Chinese phones...not implying that they are bad, it's just I would buy android phones with strong dev support. But interesting find indeed. Do make a review on them soon
There is a knockoff of every popular phone of the last year. Reminds me of the Simpsons going tv shopping. We have all the major brands magnetbox sorny
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Honestly, yes as everybody has mentioned, these seem to be knockoffs of other phones ( such as a the sgs3) and the hardware maybe a little bit behind, but they're cheap and you'll get what you paid for. I've read the reviews and almost all of them have a positive feedback, saying they love it, it's fast, fast shipping blahblahblah.
In the end, its all up to you, if you're looking for a cheap phone that will give you a bang for your buck.
Keep in mind that since it's not big time developers nor manufacturers, don't expect huge support.
As an added note to before, the few android knock off devices I've owned have been easy to root but you need to make your own changes to the kernel/ROM if you want too much more than is there already in android. But there are many auto scripts nowadays that allow you to much of this easy.
Don't expect too much quality hardware wise but for the most part android I'd android and if you're willing o chance it you maybe OK. Up until I got my nexus 7 I used one of a few of the knock off tablets I bought. One of them was real nice for the price, the other three I had to sell on eBay rather quickly as they were subpar
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