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Clear music from "Music" tab library?

I'm one of the few people who actually like the Music tab's interface (using the zoom to scan a song is very nice, IMO) but I have a question about removing songs from the library...
I deleted the stock songs from my device and now, when I go to the music tab, I get the 'searching...' message and, when I go to library, all the old songs are still there, but with exclamation marks rather than album art.
I went to WMP and deleted all the songs in the 'My Music' list, so I know the two aren't tied together.
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Also, I've added a bunch of music in a folder I created (Storage Card>My Documents>My Music) and neither WMP or the Music tab see this folder. Where do I put music on the storage card so the media players will see them?

Try Deleting the AudioManager.vol file in \Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng. That should force AudioManager to re-search your device for Music (you'll need to disable TF3D and make sure Audio Manager isn't running in the background to delete the file. You also may need to use Total Commander or Resco, however selecting "Show all Files" in File Explorer may also work).
I personally haven't tested it by deleting any files first, but I don't see why it shouldn't work (though you did indicate it shows "Searching" everytime you go to the tab, so this may not work). It's something to try, at any rate.

Captain_Throwback said:
Try Deleting the AudioManager.vol file in \Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng.
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That didn't work. The deleted songs still show up and it still doesn't see the new songs. You figure they'd want these devices to be user friendly and make it easy to copy your music onto it. Or remove songs you don't want.

bryceowen said:
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Also, I've added a bunch of music in a folder I created (Storage Card>My Documents>My Music) and neither WMP or the Music tab see this folder. Where do I put music on the storage card so the media players will see them?
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I have my Music in \Storage Card\Music (because that's where Windows Media puts them by default when you sync it), and I've never had any problems with AudioManager finding my Music. Perhaps you should elaborate on your setup, ROM-wise.

Stock ROM. Just got the phone a week ago. The songs I'm trying to load are .mp3. I've tried putting the songs on the device directly in the /Music folder, I've also tried /My Documents/Music, /My Documents/My Music (both on the device and on the storage card). The MP3s will play, if I pull them up in TC or File Manager.
I've tried copying the 'Dogbark.wav' file to the storage card (/My Documents) and WMP has no problem finding THAT file. I was thinking it might be a file name issue, but I've tried renaming one of the mp3s to something as simple as one letter and it STILL isn't seen.
Do you NEED to sync it with Windows Media Player? (This is a bit of a problem, as I use linux and don't have ready access to a Windows machine.)

bryceowen said:
Stock ROM. Just got the phone a week ago. The songs I'm trying to load are .mp3. I've tried putting the songs on the device directly in the /Music folder, I've also tried /My Documents/Music, /My Documents/My Music (both on the device and on the storage card). The MP3s will play, if I pull them up in TC or File Manager.
I've tried copying the 'Dogbark.wav' file to the storage card (/My Documents) and WMP has no problem finding THAT file. I was thinking it might be a file name issue, but I've tried renaming one of the mp3s to something as simple as one letter and it STILL isn't seen.
Do you NEED to sync it with Windows Media Player? (This is a bit of a problem, as I use linux and don't have ready access to a Windows machine.)
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No, you shouldn't need to. I'm really not sure why it wouldn't be working.
What Carrier are you on? What location? There may be a ROM update floating around somewhere that will solve your problem.

I'm with AT&T in Florida. I'd like to avoid a ROM flash, if possible...

bryceowen said:
I'm with AT&T in Florida. I'd like to avoid a ROM flash, if possible...
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I don't know if that's possible, unfortunately. I'd actually suggest a hard reset to see if that fixes the issue. If you're going to do that, you may as well update to the new AT&T ROM. I, unfortunately don't have any other suggestions for you.
Actually, the only other thing I can think of is that it's an issue with your SD card, but that wouldn't explain why AudioManager won't update.

go to the music tab, bottom left softkey "library", slide over to "all songs", and play something on your phone. it should clear off all old songs and the new ones.

I actually found the solution on the AT&T support forums. (HOLY CRAP! Useful information was ACTUALLY found there for once!)
Two words:
Soft reset.
Don't know why I didn't try it sooner.

The Jack of Clubs said:
go to the music tab, bottom left softkey "library", slide over to "all songs", and play something on your phone. it should clear off all old songs and the new ones.
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The problem I was having, Jack, was that the music player wasn't detecting any of the new songs I had on the phone. 'All Songs' was blank, because I had deleted all the songs that were included with the device and it just wasn't seeing the new ones. At least not until I did a soft reset.

bryceowen said:
The problem I was having, Jack, was that the music player wasn't detecting any of the new songs I had on the phone. 'All Songs' was blank, because I had deleted all the songs that were included with the device and it just wasn't seeing the new ones. At least not until I did a soft reset.
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I assumed you'd tried that. That's usually the first thing everyone tries, so I didn't even bother suggesting it. Glad you got it working.

i dont like to restart the phone. it takes a really long time to boot up. it always finds the songs with the way i listed. i even have all my album art.

[Q] How to take advantage of SRS with another player?

Hello!
I've got my Sensation yesterday
Loving it, despite of the bugsss
I see that Sensation can config SRS in the default player, wanna use it with speakers
But I rarely use the default player =\ .. mostly mSpot and I'm thinking of testing Google Music, both having their "custom" players
Is it possible to take advantage of SRS with any other streaming music player?
Or make the default player see the songs downloaded by mSpot? (yea.. I wasn't able to make it do that )
That's weird, cuz it can find musics downloaded by "MP3 Music Download". And it's not the codec either, it's m4a by mSpot.
Thanks in advance!

SRS and Dolby 5.1 are only available through stock apps from my experience. To get your media to show up in the stock app use an app that causes a new media search. SDRescan is free on the market. I use Extended Controls.

GorillaPimp said:
SRS and Dolby 5.1 are only available through stock apps from my experience. To get your media to show up in the stock app use an app that causes a new media search. SDRescan is free on the market. I use Extended Controls.
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Thanks for your reply.
I tried the SDRescan, but it didn't work =\
I've also rebooted the phone.. it just doesn't see the mSpot folder -.-

I'm not familiar with mSpot. You say it stores m4a files on your phone? Try to look for the directory with Astro or Estrong. I'm betting they aren't there or are in a hidden directory. Make sure you set the file manager to show hidden files. Check mSpot to see if there is a setting that allows you to hide media from the Android system. Subsonic has a setting like that.

I did a test copying the mSpot file to another folder.. it was able to see the music
So I guess the file is not the problem
But still can't make it to scan mSpot folder

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I'm not familiar with mSpot. You say it stores m4a files on your phone? Try to look for the directory with Astro or Estrong. I'm betting they aren't there or are in a hidden directory. Make sure you set the file manager to show hidden files. Check mSpot to see if there is a setting that allows you to hide media from the Android system. Subsonic has a setting like that.
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The files are there. Didn't find any setting like that.
I think I'm just gonna try Google Music (to sync) and play them with default player
Thanks, though!

Oh.. I found a file named ".nomedia" inside mSpot's folder
After deleted that file, it was able to scan the folder ^^
But the song's properties (song name, singer, album..) are encrypted, so they're all messed up XD can't use it!
Just gonna try Google Music..

Use Volume+.

ercliou said:
Oh.. I found a file named ".nomedia" inside mSpot's folder
After deleted that file, it was able to scan the folder ^^
But the song's properties (song name, singer, album..) are encrypted, so they're all messed up XD can't use it!
Just gonna try Google Music..
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That sucks man. DRM sucks. Yeah any folder with a file .nomedia or any folder that begins with a . is hidden from a media scan. The period first in the name is how you label a file or folder hidden in Linux.

[Q] Is it possible to make Google Music's offline cache available to other players?

I have already read some other topics about this, and I know Google Music stores its offline cache in android/data/com.google.android.music/cache/music and that you need to delete the .nomedia files in the path for the songs to be available to other players.
I have noticed, however, that Google Music stores the files with random numeric names with no ID3 tags. So when you access them with other players, it's rrrrreally annoying to sort the songs out.
So my question is... how does Google Music know which file corresponds to which song? That info must be stored somewhere, right? Music is showing the ID3 info somehow.
Is it possible to create an app that renames and moves the cache files to other directory according to Google Music's internal information?
Thanks in advance.

Would love if there was a way, even if it involved hooking it up to a computer and getting another program to tag the songs.

Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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In your sdcard, if your device has an internal sd it''l be there and not in the removable, go to Android/data/com.google.android.music/cache/music and rename the .nomedia file. I haven't tried this myself because I don't have another media player as i love the music beta player, but that file is what you put in a folder to tell the media service to not scan that directory so removing it will add those files to the media db. However that may cause issues with the Music Beta app so be cautious, hence rename instead of delete. I would reboot check the apps and if all is well u can then delete the file.

Offline Music Importer
Check out the app which makes this task easy.
The ID3 tag information is stored in Google Music's database on the phone. The app accesses that database and applies the proper ID3 tags and artwork to the cache files you're talking about.
With all that information added, the app moves the files to a public folder on your sdcard so that the Android Media Service Provider can see the files. The files then become available to any player on the device.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sapien.music.importer

I don't know how the syncing really works within the application or anything, but when I just installed Google Music, none of the playlists would download. I had to empty my music folder completely, and now everything syncs.
Is there anything that doesn't remove the music from Google Music's folder? It seems like moving it all would mess up the sync function. I'm just wondering if anyone knows before I subject myself to a day without music while the app downloads a couple thousand songs.

There is nothing on my local folder, android/data/com.google.android.music/cache/music, actually there's no "music" folder inside "cache". I have try the above app and also the app "Google Music Importer" (which appears to be the same) but nothing, it's doesn't recognize the downloaded albums. I'm on ICS 4.0.4 with a custom ROM. What can I do?

I have finally managed to import my music. First of all, you need the latest version of the import app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sapien.music.importer
If the music is not on your internal sdcard under android/data/com.google.android.music/cache/music then the path will be /data/data/com.google.android.music/cache/music. Now you have to set the proper permissions to the folder and files (I'm not sure if you have to set reading permissions or also write and execute ones, and also, I'm not sure if you have to set it only in the files or also on all the folders behind). You need to grant permissions on files under artwork and music folders .
You have to tell the import app your "cache" path under its settings. If your path is the second one, you will need root access (also configurable on the app's options).
Now the import app should recognize your music. If not, please let me know.
I have a problem here, how can I change permissions to more than just one file at the same time? Thanks.

It's a good idea

It doesn't work, sometimes the app recognizes the music and sometimes it doesn't. The funny thing is that sometimes it only recognizes the artwork, and not the music. This is starting to piss me off...

META inf files?(SOLVED)

Where are they held?
The reason I'm asking is when I put music onto my SDcard no matter what player I use it misses over half of my albums. Itunes to my Ipod has no such conflict. So doing a little research lead me to the meta inf? If a folder gets transferred to storage it should still contain the meta data right? How do you make that data readable to the system?(for the record mizing, uber, miui, and stock all have the same results).
Thanks

hechoen said:
Where are they held?
The reason I'm asking is when I put music onto my SDcard no matter what player I use it misses over half of my albums. Itunes to my Ipod has no such conflict. So doing a little research lead me to the meta inf? If a folder gets transferred to storage it should still contain the meta data right? How do you make that data readable to the system?(for the record mizing, uber, miui, and stock all have the same results).
Thanks
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How are you putting the music onto the sd card?

From harddrive to folder to sdcard. So all the info pulled from the harddrive should be there? My music collection is very tight. Meaning all songs and album art are held in a single folder. Any ideas?

Are there by any chance any .nomedia files in the folders?

No .nomedia files in any of the folders.

What formats are you using on your music?

.m4a is the file type.

You might've downloaded some aac files from the itunes store right? Are you sure none of them have drm? Android won't be able to read them if they do
Sent from my awesome SGS4G

No aac files and I've never used itunes store. All of my music comes from other free sources. It's weird. I have about 50 albums and half are recognized half are not. The ones that aren't have the correct song names come up and even the correct album name but for some reason the artists name isn't being read.

hechoen said:
No aac files and I've never used itunes store. All of my music comes from other free sources. It's weird. I have about 50 albums and half are recognized half are not. The ones that aren't have the correct song names come up and even the correct album name but for some reason the artists name isn't being read.
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What are you using to manage your music library anyway?

FBis251 said:
What are you using to manage your music library anyway?
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On the computer I use Itunes(I have a Mac) on the phone either the stock player or the miui player that comes with AUDIOPHILE FTW. I've tried mizing as well. Thanks FB for looking into this.

hechoen said:
On the computer I use Itunes(I have a Mac) on the phone either the stock player or the miui player that comes with AUDIOPHILE FTW. I've tried mizing as well. Thanks FB for looking into this.
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Yeah this is a little odd. I'm sure you've tried the folder mode on mixzing? Can you give winamp a shot?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nullsoft.winamp

FBis251 said:
Yeah this is a little odd. I'm sure you've tried the folder mode on mixzing? Can you give winamp a shot?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nullsoft.winamp
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Tried winamp same thing. What is going on? On a side note tried winamps shoutcast for a second. How does Van Morrison end up on alternative?!
The only thing I can think to do is redo my music folder and download it again to my phone. It's crazy the files aren't corrupt because they play.

hechoen said:
Tried winamp same thing. What is going on? On a side note tried winamps shoutcast for a second. How does Van Morrison end up on alternative?!
The only thing I can think to do is redo my music folder and download it again to my phone. It's crazy the files aren't corrupt because they play.
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It might be a tagging issue. Not sure what method itunes uses to tag its files since mp3 files tend to use id3. That's why I'm glad on windows, Mediamonkey handles all the tagging. I have my folder structure really organized so that if I try to look for music from just a computer, no music player, I can find it.
/music/Album Artist/[<Album year>] Album/Track# Track title.
If you can get on parallels or bootcamp and can get mediamonkey on windows I'd give it a shot. I'll tell you how to force an update of the songs' metadata.

FBis251 said:
It might be a tagging issue. Not sure what method itunes uses to tag its files since mp3 files tend to use id3. That's why I'm glad on windows, Mediamonkey handles all the tagging. I have my folder structure really organized so that if I try to look for music from just a computer, no music player, I can find it.
/music/Album Artist/[<Album year>] Album/Track# Track title.
If you can get on parallels or bootcamp and can get mediamonkey on windows I'd give it a shot. I'll tell you how to force an update of the songs' metadata.
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My music is organized the same way. I'll give media monkey a try when I get some time. Still gonna try just redownloading my music to the sd card when I get some time as well. I'll let you know how it goes. If you have any other ideas let me know.
Thanks

I have this same problem. I use Winamp to sync with my android. And i made sure using both Winamp and an independent tagging program that all my files have tags (artist, album, cover, etc.) and yet half of them still are not read on my phone. Not by Google Music app, not by Winamp, and not by Samsung Stock Player.
Could it be the file types that dont work?
The ones that DO have Artists reading all have the correct album artwork. The ones that DO NOT have artists according to my players all have albums, but about half of them do not have album artwork (the rest do). I'm not sure what's going on. I think it's an error within the Media Scanner?
(on a side note- if you include the track number in the file name of your song, it will show up as that when playing. I would recommend not putting the track number in the file name.)

Nickcu
I never figured out what's going on. Just learned to live with it. I think I might start playing around with it again and try to come up with some answers. If you figure it out let me know.

Im gonna look into it some more later, but i THINK it has something to do with the file type at this point. But don't quote me on that haha.

Just redid all my music. pulled all Itunes related crap out of the folders and it's still not recognizing about half of them. Gonna try some other stuff later. File type isn't part of it I don't think. It still recognizes and plays just shows up under unknown.

I just looked through mine and it seemed that all the files with unknown artist were in .m4a whereas the ones that recognized the artist were in .mp3
could you check and see if yours is the same way?

[Q] Unable to play this type of music file

Hi, I have this new problem all of a sudden. Had a bunch of mp3 on the phone which was working fine. Then I was playing around with file explorer and deleted the temporary files and also some file in the music directory on the SD card...found all the sounds were gone.
So I synced HTC sync again including the songs that were in the itune list for the HTC phone. After I could see the songs on the phone, but it says it "unable to play this type of audio file"
When I unplugged the phone from computer....the songs on the music app seem to disappear all together.
Anyone have any idea?
Thanks

newr said:
Hi, I have this new problem all of a sudden. Had a bunch of mp3 on the phone which was working fine. Then I was playing around with file explorer and deleted the temporary files and also some file in the music directory on the SD card...found all the sounds were gone.
So I synced HTC sync again including the songs that were in the itune list for the HTC phone. After I could see the songs on the phone, but it says it "unable to play this type of audio file"
When I unplugged the phone from computer....the songs on the music app seem to disappear all together.
Anyone have any idea?
Thanks
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Sounds like you probably shouldn't have deleted those temp files. Try clearing the cache, and go through the SD card and wipe all your music as well as temp files and see if that clears anything up.
If all else fails, simply do a backup and flash the ROM again. If that doesn't work, just re-flash without restoring the backup.

newr said:
Hi, I have this new problem all of a sudden. Had a bunch of mp3 on the phone which was working fine. Then I was playing around with file explorer and deleted the temporary files and also some file in the music directory on the SD card...found all the sounds were gone.
So I synced HTC sync again including the songs that were in the itune list for the HTC phone. After I could see the songs on the phone, but it says it "unable to play this type of audio file"
When I unplugged the phone from computer....the songs on the music app seem to disappear all together.
Anyone have any idea?
Thanks
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Maybe you can try refreshing the music library by going to Manage Applications>All>Media Storage and clearing data. Reboot the phone to let it rescan for your music files. Not sure if this will work though