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You think we can get this on the G1?
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Original Android <3ers! said:
You think we can get this on the G1?
http://bit.ly/cNzpfv
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simple answer: nope
RandumAccess said:
simple answer: nope
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Something ive learned with g1 dev, never say "nope", way to many times stuff which had been said impossible has been done.
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1) OP do you know what you can over clock your g1 (not to 1 ghz though)
2) whats the full clock speed of the cpu 4 the moment?
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Something ive learned with g1 dev, never say "nope", way to many times stuff which had been said impossible has been done.
But
1) OP do you know what you can over clock your g1 (not to 1 ghz though)
2) whats the full clock speed of the cpu 4 the moment?
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Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Sorry but really? Are you being at all serious?
A processor clocked at 384mhz (g1) being overclocked to over a gig? What you gonna use to keep it cool? Liquid nitrogen?
true that... even at 576 mhz it gets way too hot while using wifi... besides, the phone just locks up when you go over 650 mhz or so. i have tried. i dont think it can handle it.
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Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Sorry but really? Are you being at all serious?
A processor clocked at 384mhz (g1) being overclocked to over a gig? What you gonna use to keep it cool? Liquid nitrogen?
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Reread what you quoted. He said you can't do that.
ummm... i have mine at 825mhz
its possible, but not yet
bestofrhcp said:
ummm... I have mine at 825mhz
its possible, but not yet
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this guy just treated all of your lives! I love you bestofrhcp!
The thing is the moment runs at 800 Mhz stock so 1006-800= 200 Mhz overclock, or a 25% overclock. Our G1's were built for 385, but I've gotten mine stable up to 729, so an 89% overclock. Granted, the CPU inside the G1 was designed for 528 but HTC underclocked it for battery purposes, so it's only a 38% overclock. The samsung moment has a really crappy samsung chip (pre-hummingbird), but it should be able to squeeze out a few more mhz. I don't have much hope for anything more than 729 on our phones, at least not without an overvolt kernel and some sort of liquid cooling system.
Processor Qualcomm® MSM7201A™, 528 MHz
I am really getting sick of all the overclocking nonsense.
There is MORE TO SPEED THAN CLOCK RATE!!!!
You can clock these CPUs as fast as you want, but the overall effect on performance will be measurably negligible. You may, at most, THINK that it is faster when in fact, it is NOT.
lbcoder said:
I am really getting sick of all the overclocking nonsense.
There is MORE TO SPEED THAN CLOCK RATE!!!!
You can clock these CPUs as fast as you want, but the overall effect on performance will be measurably negligible. You may, at most, THINK that it is faster when in fact, it is NOT.
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Hehe It might be placebo but Raging Thunder 2 is MUCH more playable at 700 Mhz than at 528.
It is true that there is more to speed than clock rate, I'm not going to argue about that. A Core 2 due at 3.3 Ghz doesn't compare to a Core i3 at 2.2 Ghz, since the core i3 has more cores and is a more efficient platform. But a Core i3 at 1.6 Ghz in a netbook won't compare to a Core i3 at 2.4 Ghz in a desktop. Clock speed can make a big difference in performance. You can optimize all you want but using brute force helps out. Of course I only overclock when I want to play some 3D racing games and I'm close to a power source. I usually run it at 352 or 480.
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ummm... i have mine at 825mhz
its possible, but not yet
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Can you cook bacon on it?
1ghz would probably fry the whole motherboard :| What we really need is some ram, which will be no problem when I upgrade.
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ummm... i have mine at 825mhz
its possible, but not yet
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Why would you want to OC that much, I'm sure your battery last all of about 4 hours tops
My friend say the amr6 from gio is original 600 mhz with overclocking to 800 mhz (+200 mhz).
Its that true?
Because samsung mini to have 800 mhz have got CyanogenMod 7.1.0 (Android 2.3.7.1) to have 806 mhz, and how can be possible gio have 800 mhz without cyanogen if the amr6 are really overclock.
My i buy in vodafone official shop.
if you look at the technical details of the phone it says:
HARDWARE AND S.O.
S.O.: Android OS
Version: 2.2 Froyo, TouchWiz UI v3.0
Processor: MSM7227-1 Turbo 800 MHz
if I have been helpful, please thanks.
One little question this turbo does mean overcloking but means give more fast cache to cpu right?
yes, when CPU is under high stress the cache is increased as the clock. CPUs have different "slots" with certain clock, when the processor needs to do a lot of work he sets the CPU slot higher in this case 800MHz.
if I have been helpful, please thanks.
does anyone know if setting the CPU SPEED to 1.5 GHz is dangerous while the SENSATION XL has the same chipset as the desire s has (Qualcomm Snapdragon MS8255) and the SENSATION XL's CPU speed is set to 1.5GHz .
sensation has msm8260 (dual core 1.2-1.5 GHz and adreno 220)
Sensation XL indeed has MSM8255.
Just like in PCs, chipsets in phones are binned not only by their type, but also by their target frequency. You don't go overclocking Core2Duo 1.8 GHz to 2.4 GHz because it's "the same CPU", right? Because it isn't the same CPU. The same applies here.
אז זה מסוכן או לא ?
English, please.
Answer - would you run the CPU on your computer at 1.5x the speed it was made to run, because there's CPU with the same name (i3/i5/i7/whatever) that runs at 1.5x the speed?
The same answer applies to your phone.
I expect people to be able to make minimal logic work with their own brains rather than just answering "yes/no". I think that this way people actually understand more than what they've asked for.
i guessed that was the answer but just wanted to be sure...
thanks anyway !
msm8255 should run stable on 1.5GHz (if stock freq is lower)
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msm8255 should run stable on 1.5GHz (if stock freq is lower)
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No it won't. It depends on the specific part, and few parts run stock 1.5 GHz without stability issues surfacing / burning out very fast (if overvolted).
If you really want - you can try it on T-Mobile G2, that has MSM8255 of the earliest bin, with stock at 800MHz. Good luck, don't forget to write how did you like a phone as a toaster.
I suggest refraining from bad advice, especially when it's in the forum and it's not your phone you're talking about. You can burn your phones as much as you like, but don't go around suggesting it to others. Just let me understand something: you have stock non-rooted ICS and have no idea about such basics as which guide to use to downgrade, but you allow yourself posting about chipset frequencies?
so which speed can i overclock to that shouldn't turn my device into a toaster ?
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so which speed can i overclock to that shouldn't turn my device into a toaster ?
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1.2 runs most things with no lag.
Sometimes you're the windshield; sometimes you're the bug.
- Mark Knopfler.
The point is each chip is different even if the same model
What works for me on my device won't necessarily work for you
So test and see if your brave enough, but be aware of the consequences
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I overclock my ds to1.5 every time I play games and it doesn't even get warm. So I think it's pretty harmless.
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recently i came across overlocking GPU.. in sense4a built by derefas made GPU overlocked to 220 n he mensioned that its safe.. is i dont think it wont create any problem.. some problem ll exist.. can anybody know that problem?? and overlocking to 220 means now we have adreno220 ?? is it like dat?? n i google it but i saw that for adreno220 it clock speed would be 1.2Ghz to 1.5GHz(acc. to this site - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imageon). so that rom has gpu overlocked n cpu optional, it means iguess it make some problem.. can anybody explain me pros n cons..:fingers-crossed:
shree alwaz said:
recently i came across overlocking GPU.. in sense4a built by derefas made GPU overlocked to 220 n he mensioned that its safe.. is i dont think it wont create any problem.. some problem ll exist.. can anybody know that problem?? and overlocking to 220 means now we have adreno220 ?? is it like dat?? n i google it but i saw that for adreno220 it clock speed would be 1.2Ghz to 1.5GHz(acc. to this site - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imageon). so that rom has gpu overlocked n cpu optional, it means iguess it make some problem.. can anybody explain me pros n cons..:fingers-crossed:
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I have the same query... If it's safe then the work is remarkable:thumbup:
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arey nobody knows about this.. how can know??
All that a newbie could get.
can anybody know that problem??
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The dev's have had their phone's NAND memory fried due to overclocking the Processor. I don't have info about the GPU.
and overlocking to 220 means now we have adreno220 ?? is it like dat??
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No, it ain't like that. The chip is embedded, and can't change.
Our Chipset is MSM7225A (according to http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3073&c=htc_explorer_htc_pico) and the GPU supported is Adreno 200 (enhanced) according to (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)).
The Adreno 200 was said to support the following in the wikipedia site.
Adreno 200 (AMD Z430) inside the QSD8x50 (1 GHz) and MSM7x27 (600 MHz A11+L2 cache). It offers a programmable function pipeline and streaming textures with support for OpenGL ES 2.0, OpenGL ES 1.1, OpenVG 1.1, EGL 1.4, Direct3D Mobile, SVGT 1.2 and DirectDraw. (22M triangles/second, 133M pixels/second, clock speed up to 128 MHz).
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Even some googling didn't help in finding the clocking speed of our GPU. According to wikipedia, it supports 128 MHz.
Note that it was for the devices QSD8x50 (1 GHz) and MSM7x27.
But, an enhanced GPU is supported in our Chip. So, I got the following info from the Qualcomm website.
Adreno™ 200 is the first OGLES 2.0 GPU with unified shader architecture and makes maximum use of the graphics processing power of the GPU. This GPU is a leap forward in visual graphics quality from OpenGL-Es 1.x, which enables developers to implement effects that were previously a daunting task. APIs supported include OpenGL ES 2.0, OpenGL ES 1.1, OpenVG 1.1, EGL 1.3, Direct3D Mobile, SVGT 1.2 and DirectDraw. The Adreno 200 delivers streaming textures to combine Video, Camera, SVG and other image surfaces with 3D graphics. It also enables concurrent CPU, DSP, Graphics, and MDP and includes a programmable function graphics pipeline.
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And, so, I summarized that an enhanced GPU, in our chip, has a normal clocking speed of around 200 MHz, and it can be overclocked. How this is done, and all the other stuff, the developers might help you. And, if its safe... I also read that overclocking a little wouldn't harm. So, I guess it's safe.
Anyways, the Pros are that you would get a little extra fps, so you could "expect" a little improvement in gaming and video playback.
The Cons... Well, anyone using an overclocked GPU for long might know.
vineethraj49 said:
The dev's have had their phone's NAND memory fried due to overclocking the Processor. I don't have info about the GPU.
No, it ain't like that. The chip is embedded, and can't change.
Our Chipset is MSM7225A (according to http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3073&c=htc_explorer_htc_pico) and the GPU supported is Adreno 200 (enhanced) according to (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)).
The Adreno 200 was said to support the following in the wikipedia site.
Even some googling didn't help in finding the clocking speed of our GPU. According to wikipedia, it supports 128 MHz.
Note that it was for the devices QSD8x50 (1 GHz) and MSM7x27.
But, an enhanced GPU is supported in our Chip. So, I got the following info from the Qualcomm website.
And, so, I summarized that an enhanced GPU, in our chip, has a normal clocking speed of around 200 MHz, and it can be overclocked. How this is done, and all the other stuff, the developers might help you. And, if its safe... I also read that overclocking a little wouldn't harm. So, I guess it's safe.
Anyways, the Pros are that you would get a little extra fps, so you could "expect" a little improvement in gaming and video playback.
The Cons... Well, anyone using an overclocked GPU for long might know.
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yea.. actually.. i dint understand what is mean by GPU OC.. how it ll improves the gaming performance??
Maybe if its highly OC'd, then...
shree alwaz said:
yea.. actually.. i dint understand what is mean by GPU OC.. how it ll improves the gaming performance??
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If the fps increases a lot, then, gaming and video playback might improve.
shree alwaz said:
yea.. actually.. i dint understand what is mean by GPU OC.. how it ll improves the gaming performance??
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When overclocked the textures are rendered little quicker than normal clocking. It won't double the frame rate as some guy doubted. Look at the details of our CPU and gpu.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7225a&c=qualcomm_msm7225a
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Hello everyone! With the launch of redmi note 5 pro and snapdragon 636 we have now a budget king. We know that 636 is based on 660 with reduced clocks for better efficiency , cpu cores being the same.What we don't know for sure is what gpu the 636 is using. We've been lead to believe that snapdragon 636 is using adreno 509 wich is a slight improvement over adreno 508 on snapdragon 630. Based on this article http://kyokojap.myweb.hinet.net/gpu_gflops/ we know that adreno 506 and 508 is the same core , and adreno 510 and 512 is the same core with the latter being on a node shrink to 14nm from 28nm.
So adreno 506 at 600mhz has 120 gflops , adreno 508 at 800mhz has 160gflops, adreno 510 (28nm) at 600mhz has 180gflops and adreno 512 (14nm) at 800mhz has 240gflops..
Adreno 509 is supposed to have a bump of 10% improvement over adreno 508 wich is around 160gflops. This means adreno 509 should be around the mark of 175gflops, right between the adreno 508 and adreno 510. If adreno 509 is the same core as adreno 506 & and 508 that means adreno 509 needs al least + 10% on the clocks. 800mhz + 10% => goes to ~900mhz for adreno 509. Not impossible but not likely because don't forget snapdragon636 is meant to be very efficient and the increased consumption cuased by the delta of perf/clocks at 900mhz is very high. So taking the assumption that adreno 509 is the same core as 510 and 512 , for it to be around 175gflops it needs to be underclocked at around 550mhz. A 550mhz clock would need a lot less power then a smaller gpu core (506) but at a higher clock ~~900mhz.
Adreno 509 being the same core as 510 and 512 would be very beneficial to us ,making the snapdragon 636 a very friendly overclocker both on cpu cores and gpu cores.
The problem with this theory is : I don't have proof. I don't have a redmi note 5 pro ( it's not yet released globally) and there is a lack of information based on this gpu's on internet.
We need someone with the phone , time and willing to figure it out at what clock adreno 509 operates. From there we can see on wich gpu core adreno 509 is really based.
Any news about this? On wikipedia there is some more information, but don't know if these are true. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adreno
Adreno 509, 510 and 512 all have 128 ALUs.
Adreno 509: 720mhz and 14nm
Adreno 510: 600mhz and 28nm
Adreno 512: 850mhz and 14nm
So if these information are true, the Adreno 509 should be faster than the Adreno 510 + less power hungry because of 14nm.
Can anyone confirm this?^^
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Any news about this? On wikipedia there is some more information, but don't know if these are true. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adreno
Adreno 509, 510 and 512 all have 128 ALUs.
Adreno 509: 720mhz and 14nm
Adreno 510: 600mhz and 28nm
Adreno 512: 850mhz and 14nm
So if these information are true, the Adreno 509 should be faster than the Adreno 510 + less power hungry because of 14nm.
Can anyone confirm this?^^
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However, my Redmi Note 5' Adreno 509 only gets 430Mhz under full load, so I think it's just a downclock version of Adreno 512. The performance of 509 is even better than 510, and barely produce any heat.
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However, my Redmi Note 5' Adreno 509 only gets 430Mhz under full load, so I think it's just a downclock version of Adreno 512. The performance of 509 is even better than 510, and barely produce any heat.
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That's interesting. I just searched on YouTube for some performance videos, on Antutu the phone has a SD636 and an Adreno 512, so it could be really a downclocked version. I guess we need more information^^
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That's interesting. I just searched on YouTube for some performance videos, on Antutu the phone has a SD636 and an Adreno 512, so it could be really a downclocked version. I guess we need more information^^
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if so, in the future it will be overclock adreno 509 to level 512
Did we get any development on overclocking the SD636 adreno 509 to SD660 adreno 512 levels?
bbighouse said:
Did we get any development on overclocking the SD636 adreno 509 to SD660 adreno 512 levels?
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Unfortunately, not yet. Some say that it's impossible to overclock but I dunno why..probably some higher level sources are locked or maybe some alu's are hardlocked is my guess. Does anyone here have an idea about it?
660 is a overclocked 636.
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Did we get any development on overclocking the SD636 adreno 509 to SD660 adreno 512 levels?
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We nid proper frequency_table to do this, some kernel using source from 660 and bump CPU clock to 2.2Ghz for real, but not for the GPU, I hope someone could bring a new frequency_table for adreno 509 from scratch.. cuz its happen on sd435 just like simpleKernel by Luiz on Redmi 4x..
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We nid proper frequency_table to do this, some kernel using source from 660 and bump CPU clock to 2.2Ghz for real, but not for the GPU, I hope someone could bring a new frequency_table for adreno 509 from scratch.. cuz its happen on sd435 just like simpleKernel by Luiz on Redmi 4x..
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Wow, I see some interesting changelogs' on that thread for redmi4x
"Overclocked BIG to 1.49GHz and LITTLE to 1.209GHz using hardware unlocks thanks to @TecnoTailsPlays for working together to do this;
-> Overclocked GPU to 610MHz again, working together with @TecnoTailsPlays (https://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=6821509);"
Would be nice if some devs like him can look at the 509's frequency table too.. The performance increase could be next level!
nakulp said:
Wow, I see some interesting changelogs' on that thread for redmi4x
"Overclocked BIG to 1.49GHz and LITTLE to 1.209GHz using hardware unlocks thanks to @TecnoTailsPlays for working together to do this;
-> Overclocked GPU to 610MHz again, working together with @TecnoTailsPlays (https://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=6821509);"
Would be nice if some devs like him can look at the 509's frequency table too.. The performance increase could be next level!
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I tried his kernel with 675Mhz gpu clock and its awesome, it can run pubg with medium setup, the only issue is battery but I don't really care cuz higher performance = higher battery drain and its normal, I hope someone like them bring hardware unlock for our chipset,
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660 is a overclocked 636.
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Actually its the opposite. 636 is a underclocked 660
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MikiGry said:
Actually its the opposite. 636 is a underclocked 660
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It is the same thing.
nakulp said:
Wow, I see some interesting changelogs' on that thread for redmi4x
"Overclocked BIG to 1.49GHz and LITTLE to 1.209GHz using hardware unlocks thanks to @TecnoTailsPlays for working together to do this;
-> Overclocked GPU to 610MHz again, working together with @TecnoTailsPlays (https://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=6821509);"
Would be nice if some devs like him can look at the 509's frequency table too.. The performance increase could be next level!
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Resume what you guys want, I maybe take a look if there's a source for me to access
(I'm TecnoTailsPlays, that was my old name here in XDA lol)
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Resume what you guys want, I maybe take a look if there's a source for me to access
(I'm TecnoTailsPlays, that was my old name here in XDA lol)
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Wow.. nice bro.. we hope you make it happen
636 with Fiture of 660.. "cheers"
LuanHalaiko said:
Resume what you guys want, I maybe take a look if there's a source for me to access
(I'm TecnoTailsPlays, that was my old name here in XDA lol)
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Thanks dude!
The goal is to overclock the SD363 to match the SD660. Most importantly the GPU! The two chips perform basically the same CPU-wise, but in graphics the 660 is 30-40% more powerful, simply because it is clocked higher.
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Resume what you guys want, I maybe take a look if there's a source for me to access
(I'm TecnoTailsPlays, that was my old name here in XDA lol)
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Thanks man, that'd be huge! I'm ready to donate too if necessary :angel:
Yeah if someone could make the GPU clocks like Adreno 512, it would be less painful to watch the Redmi note 7 and its SD660 XD
But anyway, SD636 to SD660 kernels exist for our whyred, its just a matter of getting that adreno 512. Another info is that our GPU gets 21k antutu score and 512 gets 30k. Not important but definitely a nice bump
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Yeah if someone could make the GPU clocks like Adreno 512, it would be less painful to watch the Redmi note 7 and its SD660 XD
But anyway, SD636 to SD660 kernels exist for our whyred, its just a matter of getting that adreno 512. Another info is that our GPU gets 21k antutu score and 512 gets 30k. Not important but definitely a nice bump
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Exactely!
The 636 is already a MASSIVE upgrade from the 625, specially gpu-wise (about 60%) and gettin that extra 30-40% would be magical.
But, would that stress the GPU and cpu? I have senn people talking with worry about that. And I noticed that there were many kernels with oc(I think most of custom kernels for whyred started with oc) but now I think that the only one left is kangaroo. All the others removed oc and ov. Does this mean something?