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Hye, can I ask something?
What's the difference between
CyanogenMod 7.1 RC1 => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1240177
and
CyanogenMod 7.1 Nightly Builds => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1268304
Try to search for it, but still cannot find the difference.
Thanks.
Ummm, the differences come...get ready....nightly.
Sorry, not trying to be an ass, but couldnt resist. Nightlies are updated more or less nightly with new tweaks and features. RC is the last known stable, non-experimental build. If you follow the nightly thread, I'm sure someone will be posting links to the changelog.
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It's okay. Still newbie here.
Yes, the word nightly. I know that, but after try searching the difference, still know nothing.
So, what do you mean is, nightly builds is official rom from cyanogenmod?
They are both official, but nightlies contain changes done to improve the roms, ofcourse doesn't always mean that it improves. Those are what I like to think of as "experimental". RC stands for release candidate. Rc's have been known to be the latest stable rom that is ready for public testing. Still, rc's are just released to receive approval, once everyone likes it, it may become official, or Stable release. You'll know when they're unofficial, they will state so in the threads name.
RC[Release Candidate] is the Stable Release While Nightly Builds are often modified with new tweaks and always improved, which means nightly are quick updated
CyanogenMod RC and Nightly Builds explained
In the world of CyanogenMod...
7.1 = indicates the version number of the mod
RC = Release Candidate, mostly bug-free, also known as "stable", change log usually available
Nightly Builds are
Beta
No change-log. Cyanogen fans accept that they would rather a Modder/Developer spend time working on a new version, than taking precious time to write change logs documenting every thing they did/tweaked.
Not released at a certain time (night).
Not released EVERY night, could be weekly.
A new "nightly" version is released, when the developer/modder is ready to upload it.
Any inquiries of when a new RC or nightly will be available will receive the following tin-can reply, "it'll be ready when its ready."
"Nightly" CyanogenMod fans/users are like Pit Bulls who haven't been fed in 3 days. They look forward to a new version every "night", even if its bugged and bad. If the a new "nightly" released version is very buggy, the CyanogenMod fan/user will simply restore/revert to an earlier CyanogenMod version that worked, whether its nightly or RC version, simply using the "restore" of a backup function. All CyanogenMod fans are advised to backup, before doing any changes. Those that don't, usually regret it, and won't do it again.
Those Developers/Modders working tirelessly to improve upon the CyanogenMod are doing it for the most part on their own time late at night. Bugs expected, because it wasn't thoroughly tested because so many CyanogenMod fans are eager and hungry for the latest version with cool features and tweaks and hope to not wait a month+ for an official-mostly'debugged-version(RC).
Each Android Mobile requires dedicated Modders/Developers, because every mobile has different ram/rom/processor/buttons/irks/camera and requires a special build. Therefore if you have an outdated mobile (ie. G1) that no dedicated Modders/Developers are using, you may never see an CyanogenMod update again.
In the world of updating a Android OS, if you fix/add one feature, it may/will break/not-work another feature. Usually the first thing to break/not-work the camera &/or the video camera &/or the front camera. If you're planning to become a Developer/Modder, expect a lot of frustration.
nartz said:
Hye, can I ask something?
What's the difference between
CyanogenMod 7.1 RC1 => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1240177
and
CyanogenMod 7.1 Nightly Builds => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1268304
Try to search for it, but still cannot find the difference.
Thanks.
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nartz said:
Hye, can I ask something?
What's the difference between
CyanogenMod 7.1 RC1 => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1240177
and
CyanogenMod 7.1 Nightly Builds => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1268304
Try to search for it, but still cannot find the difference.
Thanks.
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In answer to the qusetion; nothing.
The RC1 in the link is an official port for Cyanogen7 that is so much of a recent development that it is not yet included in the CM Nightly releases that have already been explained. I'm guessing that it will still be a port until after this round of updates when Nexx's excellent "RC1" will finally be fully integrated into the Cm device family.
As very little can happen to a nightly build sometimes, Nexx just can't be arsed to update nightly, he just does it when there's a biggy in the changelog.
Keep up the good work Nexx. v105 is Solid.
What do I know? http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?type=nightly&device=saga :s
Hey guys when official CyanogenMod for ChaCha will be relesed?
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Hey guys when official CyanogenMod for ChaCha will be relesed?
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well, first of all this would depend on which -version- of cyanogenmod you're referring to. there is currently both a CM7 build out as well as a CM9.
And the current Cyanogenmod being worked on is CM10(although unfortunately nobody has started a port for the ChaCha with CM10 yet)
the next thing it depends on is when the builds become stable. most custom CM based roms out currently have a few major bugs(for example, the CM9 port doesn't yet have the front camera working)
and lastly, it depends on the developers of these ports to submit their source to the cyanogenmod community/team and for the cyanogenmod community/team to accept it as a stable and official build.
so "when" really depends on the developers, and the stability. so, likely not anytime soon.(especially based on the slow development for most roms for this phone lately)
kronflux said:
well, first of all this would depend on which -version- of cyanogenmod you're referring to. there is currently both a CM7 build out as well as a CM9.
And the current Cyanogenmod being worked on is CM10(although unfortunately nobody has started a port for the ChaCha with CM10 yet)
the next thing it depends on is when the builds become stable. most custom CM based roms out currently have a few major bugs(for example, the CM9 port doesn't yet have the front camera working)
and lastly, it depends on the developers of these ports to submit their source to the cyanogenmod community/team and for the cyanogenmod community/team to accept it as a stable and official build.
so "when" really depends on the developers, and the stability. so, likely not anytime soon.(especially based on the slow development for most roms for this phone lately)
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I'm talking about CM7(official)!On their website on ,,get.cm" I don't see htc chacha/status tab!If you know where to download official CM7 pls tell me!
liviucristian17,
there's no Official and i think liviucristian17, CM7 still lacks the front camera?
Hey guys, I have been looking for a jb miui ROM for this device and i cant find one, i know there are some ics miui ROMs, but i would really like a jb miui ROM.
There is one for the vibrant, can I use it for my Galaxy s 4G or can anyone port it to our device?
Vibrant MIUI JB ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2289234
Thanks
i'll build it when miui comes out with miui 4.2
airfluip1 said:
i'll build it when miui comes out with miui 4.2
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Thank you i will be looking forward to it.
Beast said he would do it.
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that's been in my queue for a while along with aokp aries and paranoid android.
airfluip1 said:
i'll build it when miui comes out with miui 4.2
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2313073
Just because there are some homebrew ports doesn't mean that MIUI is 4.2 yet.
http://en.miui.com/download.html
Official Downloads
Author : MIUI Developer Team
Kernel : Android 4.1
Latest update : 3.6.21
Download : http://www.miui.com/download.html
Language : Chinese and English
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Why does it matter ? We use unofficial ROMs anyway...
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That's like saying that since a car, airplane, and weed-whacker all run on gas, you should just put the same stuff in each. Actually, the unofficial ROMS is a more tenuous connection than my gas connection. It's more like saying that since a bullet train, horse, and diesel bus all run on fuel, the fuel which goes into each shouldn't matter. It's all fuel.
Hey, you could (please don't) use an unofficial Vibrant ROM too. That's unofficial. What's the difference? The difference is that it won't work. And might brick your phone. That's bad.
Our only current Aries kernel is 4.2.2 and still has issues. MIUI is still 4.1.2 and would introduce an entirely new set of issues tied into GPS, Bluetooth, and so forth if/when a 4.1.2 Aries kernel was compiled. Does that make it impossible? No. But it means that as the build impetus - when MIUI is 4.2 - has not happened yet... it's not a great use of time yet. Unless one of the devs wants it. In which case, MIUI being not-updated is something they don't need to be hammered over the head with.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2313073
4.2.2?
Port. If YOU see source linked from that page so our devs could actually do something useful to build that...
Hi Theraze
I have to disagree with you.
Port is not a dirty word and most of our ROMs are actually ports and not built from source. Furthermore, MIUI ROM is usually ported and not built from source and only recently did Xiaomi open their sources for the public. Even more than that, both MIUI versions brought to us by Beast were ports from Nexus and not built from source.
Now, regarding the incompatibility between kernel & OS - if it works on Nexus, I assume the adjustments were made, so one can enjoy both 4.2.2 & MIUI benefits. There is no logical reason why it couldn't be ported to our beloved device.
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I'm not saying it can't be done. I'm saying that our build-from-source dev who asked you to let him know when it hit 4.2 hasn't had his request met.
Does that mean that someone (him or another dev) CAN'T port it? Nope. But it makes it a lot less likely that air can just pull the source in and compile it using the Aries bits if the buildable MIUI is still only 4.1.2 and our Aries is 4.2.2 instead.
Again, I think we're agreeing on the general bits... yes, this is possible. But airfluip1 asked to be notified when buildable MIUI was 4.2.2 and that's when he said he'd build it. Not port it.
I don't care if a ROM is ported or built from source.
I will try to play with porting it myself.
Hello xda members.
I've got a question regarding kernels. How is one to know which kernel will work with there particular ROM? Are they all somewhat compatible just to a matter of degree? Or do people just find one that sounds good and hope it works on there particular ROM?
I'm running aosb end of the line ROM and I'm real curious to try out kernels now.
Any insight world be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
There are pretty much 2 types of kernels.
CAF kernels - Used for CyanogenMod based ROMS
NON-CAF kernels - Used for AOSP / Stock
Find out if your ROM is CM based. If it is, Look in each kernel thread to see if it mentions CAF.
Hi,
This rom is based on CM so you need a kernel compatible with CM roms like (or tagged with "CAF"): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2551441 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2661397...
Maybe there is one or two others, don't remember exactly.
ericv99 said:
I'm running aosb end of the line ROM and I'm real curious to try out kernels now.
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Since you are running aosb which is CM based Rom you can try the above 2 given and also the elemental X for CAF based Roms
thank you guys. now to go check em out...
Hi,
I see at least 3 different CM11 roms based on kitkat:
* http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524961 [ROM] CyanogenMod 11.0 | Android 4.4.2 KitKat [KANG] [May-6]+[NIGHTLIES]
* http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2530073 [ROM][STABLE][Android 4.4.4] CyanogenMod 11 with 3.0.16 kernel [July 25, 2014]
* http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2692278 [UnORom][3.4Kernel] CM-11 Android 4.4.4 [Stable v2.0][29 July][Final]
All more or less unmaintained as far as I can see - please correct me if I'm wrong!
What are the remaining difficulties to get a official CM11 ROM out of these? Then a lot more infrastructure from CM could be used - e.g. development tools, build machines & downloads. If the problem is to get a build machine on which 3-5 persons could would together over the Internet - I'll spend a vserver on my own dedicated server if there is a serious effort to bring up an official CM11 ROM.
If there are rather tiny things I could try(!) to help - I have almost no experience with android system development, but with Linux and development (C, Java, embedded devices,...) in general.
Two links for the rough procedure:
* http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_porting_intro - the hard part, but luckily almost done (isn't it?)
* http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_Submitting_A_Port - the final
Wiki-entry: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Pyramid_Info
+1 for uptodate pure CM11 rom for sensation. I hope someone will join to you.
I think Flemmard's variant of CM is ready to be official!
official CM11 to Sensation!!!! We need it
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+1 It would be great thing for senny to so see official CM11 because many developers left us.
I don't think it's possible to make an official CM11 for our phone. IIRC, to be official it can't use legacy drivers and for the CM11 to work on our phone, I think we are using drivers from ICS because that's until where our drivers are updated, I'm not sure.
And "official" one in other hand would be amazing, I tried PA and etc but I always return to CM.
scanferr said:
I don't think it's possible to make an official CM11 for our phone. IIRC, to be official it can't use legacy drivers and for the CM11 to work on our phone, I think we are using drivers from ICS because that's until where our drivers are updated, I'm not sure.
And "official" one in other hand would be amazing, I tried PA and etc but I always return to CM.
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Flemmards CM use KK drivers.
+1 for me too.
It's good to take a question - how many developers are developing at this moment?
Albinoman moved to Galaxy S5
SultanXDA has forced to developing Nexus 5 device
Shantur give up his work and we can flash new builds only if Sajito will up new version (contains upstream changes)
Ivanich has decided to close his storage, so we cannot download anything...
...Ideas?
Inf1n1te said:
It's good to take a question - how many developers are developing at this moment?
Albinoman moved to Galaxy S5
SultanXDA has forced to developing Nexus 5 device
Shantur give up his work and we can flash new builds only if Sajito will up new version (contains upstream changes)
Ivanich has decided to close his storage, so we cannot download anything...
...Ideas?
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That's not true... Team Venom also left us
For now we have official slimkat builds and maybe bilal liberty still develops for senny.
That's sad. We had many great developers and suddenly many of them left us. It will be great to see official CM builds.
Thats very sad, why they all leaving, i dont understand that. How's Ivanich latest 08/27 rom? Better than Sultan 07/25?
greetz
macicgangsta said:
That's not true... Team Venom also left us
For now we have official slimkat builds and maybe bilal liberty still develops for senny.
That's sad. We had many great developers and suddenly many of them left us. It will be great to see official CM builds.
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bilal don't support our device anymore.
Inf1n1te said:
...Ideas?
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The good thing is that all the great developers left us with good ROMs.
I think it is difficult to replace the devs. I can't fix the bugs they didn't fix until now, but I would like to try to keep at least one of the Cyanogenmod ROMs updated with upstream. I think in a month or two I will have time to start with that (if no one else is doing it until then).
@mifritscher: I think the lack of a build (or at least download-) server was a problem for devs here and then. So yes, your offer could be very helpful! Thanks for that!
Inf1n1te said:
It's good to take a question - how many developers are developing at this moment?
Albinoman moved to Galaxy S5
SultanXDA has forced to developing Nexus 5 device
Shantur give up his work and we can flash new builds only if Sajito will up new version (contains upstream changes)
Ivanich has decided to close his storage, so we cannot download anything...
...Ideas?
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Sensation is a 3 year old device. i think as the devs have moved on to other devices, so should we. though our sensation has a lot of potential, i dont think devs will work on an android L port or making CM11 official. though there is hope with ivanich & bilal_liberty
Inf1n1te said:
It's good to take a question - how many developers are developing at this moment?
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Ivanich has decided to close his storage, so we cannot download anything...
...Ideas?
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I can give storage space and bandwidth if it's useful, please contact me to discuss the details.
I can build but i dont know how to make a device tree so if someone can do the device trees i can do the builds
I don't know if we have everything working as on stock, also I don't know if the rom would pass cts.
But even if everything works, I don't think there's anyone around who has enough time to maintain an official build.
But at this point there's only one cm which is still updated and that's ivanich's one. Where's the difference in having an official build?
Where to go from here?
I'm just a casual user looking for a ROM. Going through these threads is confusing and so many links are dead.
What available for the sensation right now?
cynamun said:
I'm just a casual user looking for a ROM. Going through these threads is confusing and so many links are dead.
What available for the sensation right now?
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Except for official slimkat all available and maintained roms are part of DevB so just click here in forum in the dev:db bar on roms.