Hello xda members.
I've got a question regarding kernels. How is one to know which kernel will work with there particular ROM? Are they all somewhat compatible just to a matter of degree? Or do people just find one that sounds good and hope it works on there particular ROM?
I'm running aosb end of the line ROM and I'm real curious to try out kernels now.
Any insight world be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
There are pretty much 2 types of kernels.
CAF kernels - Used for CyanogenMod based ROMS
NON-CAF kernels - Used for AOSP / Stock
Find out if your ROM is CM based. If it is, Look in each kernel thread to see if it mentions CAF.
Hi,
This rom is based on CM so you need a kernel compatible with CM roms like (or tagged with "CAF"): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2551441 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2661397...
Maybe there is one or two others, don't remember exactly.
ericv99 said:
I'm running aosb end of the line ROM and I'm real curious to try out kernels now.
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Since you are running aosb which is CM based Rom you can try the above 2 given and also the elemental X for CAF based Roms
thank you guys. now to go check em out...
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I want to overclock my phone. I recently flashed cyanogenmod 10.1. what would be a good rom to install for overclocking. thanks (please provide links)
prendivilleeoin said:
I want to overclock my phone. I recently flashed cyanogenmod 10.1. what would be a good rom to install for overclocking. thanks (please provide links)
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FYI there is no such thing as a good ROM for overclocking as it is the kernel not the ROM that does the overclocking. All the kernels are in the original android development section and are on the first page of that section.
prendivilleeoin said:
I want to overclock my phone. I recently flashed cyanogenmod 10.1. what would be a good rom to install for overclocking. thanks (please provide links)
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I am running Liquidsmooth's RC1. They are releasing their update soon,
Does anyone have a favorite TW based ROM? I am looking for one based on 4.2. I also heard the international 4.2.1 has been leaded. Has anyone tried creating a ROM based on this release? The TW ROMs just look nices than the AOSP despite all the unnecessary features that are loaded.
The international version of the s 3 has different hardware then the US versions making the leak difficult to port. Also there isn't any TW 4.2 ROMs for this phone as Samsung is working on 4.1.2. Lastly we at XDA have realized that what works for one person doesn't work for others so it is best to check out the ROMs yourself and see what works best for YOU.
Hey guys, I have been looking for a jb miui ROM for this device and i cant find one, i know there are some ics miui ROMs, but i would really like a jb miui ROM.
There is one for the vibrant, can I use it for my Galaxy s 4G or can anyone port it to our device?
Vibrant MIUI JB ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2289234
Thanks
i'll build it when miui comes out with miui 4.2
airfluip1 said:
i'll build it when miui comes out with miui 4.2
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Thank you i will be looking forward to it.
Beast said he would do it.
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that's been in my queue for a while along with aokp aries and paranoid android.
airfluip1 said:
i'll build it when miui comes out with miui 4.2
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2313073
Just because there are some homebrew ports doesn't mean that MIUI is 4.2 yet.
http://en.miui.com/download.html
Official Downloads
Author : MIUI Developer Team
Kernel : Android 4.1
Latest update : 3.6.21
Download : http://www.miui.com/download.html
Language : Chinese and English
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Why does it matter ? We use unofficial ROMs anyway...
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That's like saying that since a car, airplane, and weed-whacker all run on gas, you should just put the same stuff in each. Actually, the unofficial ROMS is a more tenuous connection than my gas connection. It's more like saying that since a bullet train, horse, and diesel bus all run on fuel, the fuel which goes into each shouldn't matter. It's all fuel.
Hey, you could (please don't) use an unofficial Vibrant ROM too. That's unofficial. What's the difference? The difference is that it won't work. And might brick your phone. That's bad.
Our only current Aries kernel is 4.2.2 and still has issues. MIUI is still 4.1.2 and would introduce an entirely new set of issues tied into GPS, Bluetooth, and so forth if/when a 4.1.2 Aries kernel was compiled. Does that make it impossible? No. But it means that as the build impetus - when MIUI is 4.2 - has not happened yet... it's not a great use of time yet. Unless one of the devs wants it. In which case, MIUI being not-updated is something they don't need to be hammered over the head with.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2313073
4.2.2?
Port. If YOU see source linked from that page so our devs could actually do something useful to build that...
Hi Theraze
I have to disagree with you.
Port is not a dirty word and most of our ROMs are actually ports and not built from source. Furthermore, MIUI ROM is usually ported and not built from source and only recently did Xiaomi open their sources for the public. Even more than that, both MIUI versions brought to us by Beast were ports from Nexus and not built from source.
Now, regarding the incompatibility between kernel & OS - if it works on Nexus, I assume the adjustments were made, so one can enjoy both 4.2.2 & MIUI benefits. There is no logical reason why it couldn't be ported to our beloved device.
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I'm not saying it can't be done. I'm saying that our build-from-source dev who asked you to let him know when it hit 4.2 hasn't had his request met.
Does that mean that someone (him or another dev) CAN'T port it? Nope. But it makes it a lot less likely that air can just pull the source in and compile it using the Aries bits if the buildable MIUI is still only 4.1.2 and our Aries is 4.2.2 instead.
Again, I think we're agreeing on the general bits... yes, this is possible. But airfluip1 asked to be notified when buildable MIUI was 4.2.2 and that's when he said he'd build it. Not port it.
I don't care if a ROM is ported or built from source.
I will try to play with porting it myself.
Hi all. I know the CM11 ROM is relatively new and all, but according to what I could find and my knowledge of over clock kernals on the HTC ONE X (AT&T-Evita), there is only two recent ones....? I tried both, seems one is for Sense based ROM's only and the other is JB (4.3). I loved the ElementalX, but recently stepped up to this KitKat build (which isn't supported by ElementalX Kernal) and am spoiled now. Not wanting to back up in version ROM's to achieve CPU/GPU OC, but the reason I even began getting into customizing these Androids was for overclocking purposes to see the max potential of these!! Just wanting to know if there are any OC Kernels in progress. Please and thank you!
I think you're a bit confused. If you're looking in our Android Development section for 4.4 kernels you're looking in the wrong place, you'll only find Sense kernels (like Elemental) there. Have you searched our Original Android Development section? That's where you'll find aosp ROMs, and of course the kernels that are compatible with them. There are already 4.4 kernels available.
Sent from my Evita
All I've found is basic custom kernels for options and different software configurations. I've done so much searching my hairs turning gray!! Lol. I do have Root, S-Off, SuperCID, and now TWRP SeLinux for these 4.4 ROMs all thanks to you guys!
Anyway you could possibly send a link to a specific thread where I can find these kernels you speak of? Preferably the most popular and stable one...
BTW...awesome site! 5.4 million members for a reason!
Just read your signature and seen the "Torched KK Kernel" Trying it now. Thank you!!
Hi,
I see at least 3 different CM11 roms based on kitkat:
* http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524961 [ROM] CyanogenMod 11.0 | Android 4.4.2 KitKat [KANG] [May-6]+[NIGHTLIES]
* http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2530073 [ROM][STABLE][Android 4.4.4] CyanogenMod 11 with 3.0.16 kernel [July 25, 2014]
* http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2692278 [UnORom][3.4Kernel] CM-11 Android 4.4.4 [Stable v2.0][29 July][Final]
All more or less unmaintained as far as I can see - please correct me if I'm wrong!
What are the remaining difficulties to get a official CM11 ROM out of these? Then a lot more infrastructure from CM could be used - e.g. development tools, build machines & downloads. If the problem is to get a build machine on which 3-5 persons could would together over the Internet - I'll spend a vserver on my own dedicated server if there is a serious effort to bring up an official CM11 ROM.
If there are rather tiny things I could try(!) to help - I have almost no experience with android system development, but with Linux and development (C, Java, embedded devices,...) in general.
Two links for the rough procedure:
* http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_porting_intro - the hard part, but luckily almost done (isn't it?)
* http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_Submitting_A_Port - the final
Wiki-entry: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Pyramid_Info
+1 for uptodate pure CM11 rom for sensation. I hope someone will join to you.
I think Flemmard's variant of CM is ready to be official!
official CM11 to Sensation!!!! We need it
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+1 It would be great thing for senny to so see official CM11 because many developers left us.
I don't think it's possible to make an official CM11 for our phone. IIRC, to be official it can't use legacy drivers and for the CM11 to work on our phone, I think we are using drivers from ICS because that's until where our drivers are updated, I'm not sure.
And "official" one in other hand would be amazing, I tried PA and etc but I always return to CM.
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I don't think it's possible to make an official CM11 for our phone. IIRC, to be official it can't use legacy drivers and for the CM11 to work on our phone, I think we are using drivers from ICS because that's until where our drivers are updated, I'm not sure.
And "official" one in other hand would be amazing, I tried PA and etc but I always return to CM.
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Flemmards CM use KK drivers.
+1 for me too.
It's good to take a question - how many developers are developing at this moment?
Albinoman moved to Galaxy S5
SultanXDA has forced to developing Nexus 5 device
Shantur give up his work and we can flash new builds only if Sajito will up new version (contains upstream changes)
Ivanich has decided to close his storage, so we cannot download anything...
...Ideas?
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It's good to take a question - how many developers are developing at this moment?
Albinoman moved to Galaxy S5
SultanXDA has forced to developing Nexus 5 device
Shantur give up his work and we can flash new builds only if Sajito will up new version (contains upstream changes)
Ivanich has decided to close his storage, so we cannot download anything...
...Ideas?
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That's not true... Team Venom also left us
For now we have official slimkat builds and maybe bilal liberty still develops for senny.
That's sad. We had many great developers and suddenly many of them left us. It will be great to see official CM builds.
Thats very sad, why they all leaving, i dont understand that. How's Ivanich latest 08/27 rom? Better than Sultan 07/25?
greetz
macicgangsta said:
That's not true... Team Venom also left us
For now we have official slimkat builds and maybe bilal liberty still develops for senny.
That's sad. We had many great developers and suddenly many of them left us. It will be great to see official CM builds.
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bilal don't support our device anymore.
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...Ideas?
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The good thing is that all the great developers left us with good ROMs.
I think it is difficult to replace the devs. I can't fix the bugs they didn't fix until now, but I would like to try to keep at least one of the Cyanogenmod ROMs updated with upstream. I think in a month or two I will have time to start with that (if no one else is doing it until then).
@mifritscher: I think the lack of a build (or at least download-) server was a problem for devs here and then. So yes, your offer could be very helpful! Thanks for that!
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It's good to take a question - how many developers are developing at this moment?
Albinoman moved to Galaxy S5
SultanXDA has forced to developing Nexus 5 device
Shantur give up his work and we can flash new builds only if Sajito will up new version (contains upstream changes)
Ivanich has decided to close his storage, so we cannot download anything...
...Ideas?
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Sensation is a 3 year old device. i think as the devs have moved on to other devices, so should we. though our sensation has a lot of potential, i dont think devs will work on an android L port or making CM11 official. though there is hope with ivanich & bilal_liberty
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It's good to take a question - how many developers are developing at this moment?
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Ivanich has decided to close his storage, so we cannot download anything...
...Ideas?
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I can give storage space and bandwidth if it's useful, please contact me to discuss the details.
I can build but i dont know how to make a device tree so if someone can do the device trees i can do the builds
I don't know if we have everything working as on stock, also I don't know if the rom would pass cts.
But even if everything works, I don't think there's anyone around who has enough time to maintain an official build.
But at this point there's only one cm which is still updated and that's ivanich's one. Where's the difference in having an official build?
Where to go from here?
I'm just a casual user looking for a ROM. Going through these threads is confusing and so many links are dead.
What available for the sensation right now?
cynamun said:
I'm just a casual user looking for a ROM. Going through these threads is confusing and so many links are dead.
What available for the sensation right now?
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Except for official slimkat all available and maintained roms are part of DevB so just click here in forum in the dev:db bar on roms.
Hey guys,
Just a quick question that I'm hoping someone can clear up for me. I have been flashing phones since the Vibrant and I seem to recall back then (and other phones I've had after such as the Sensation) devs would use the source of the firmware released from the manufacturer to create more stable roms and until that source was released there would be the possibility of the bugs.
I am coming from a Nexus 5 which I just used the stock rom since I wanted the OTA updates so it's been a while since I've flashed custom roms.
My question is, is the OPO the same way in the sense that in order to have more stable roms the source has to be released by CM in order to be more stable or is this a whole different beast where that isn't a necessity?
Thanks.
CM11S/CM12S is derived from the CM11/CM12 nightlies, all current ROMs are based on those CM sources, so all current ROMs are up to date. If you're flashing CM12 nightlies there's nothing extra that you need to do because firmware and modem is built in, but if you're flashing another custom ROM you need to flash the appropriate firmware and modem before flashing the ROM.
Oxygen is the exception to the above information, in the sense that it isn't based on CM. Flashing Oxygen will automatically flash the appropriate firmware, but if you want to revert back you need to flash the correct firmware/modem first.
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CM11S/CM12S is derived from the CM11/CM12 nightlies, all current ROMs are based on those CM sources, so all current ROMs are up to date. If you're flashing CM12 nightlies there's nothing extra that you need to do because firmware and modem is built in, but if you're flashing another custom ROM you need to flash the appropriate firmware and modem before flashing the ROM.
Oxygen is the exception to the above information, in the sense that it isn't based on CM. Flashing Oxygen will automatically flash the appropriate firmware, but if you want to revert back you need to flash the correct firmware/modem first.
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Thanks, I did not know that but it does clear some other things up.
One other question, when a Samsung (for example Galaxy S5) rom is leaked, developers will use the latest leak to update their roms but typically a rom won't be "stable" until it is based on the source that is released.
Is the OPO like that as well where the custom roms need to have a source released in order to do that (is this the google android source or CM source?), I guess I'm trying to find out the stability of the roms versus a stock rom and whether there will be more bugs in one or the other.
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Thanks, I did not know that but it does clear some other things up.
One other question, when a Samsung (for example Galaxy S5) rom is leaked, developers will use the latest leak to update their roms but typically a rom won't be "stable" until it is based on the source that is released.
Is the OPO like that as well where the custom roms need to have a source released in order to do that (is this the google android source or CM source?), I guess I'm trying to find out the stability of the roms versus a stock rom and whether there will be more bugs in one or the other.
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That's what I answered in my last reply. The CM nightlies are the source, all ROMs are built based on those nightlies (except for a couple). This phone is nothing like a Samsung or an HTC where the stock ROMs are different from the aosp ROMs or CM based ROMs. The stock ROM for this phone is the CM ROM. The stock source is always released, every single day.
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That's what I answered in my last reply. The CM nightlies are the source, all ROMs are built based on those nightlies (except for a couple). This phone is nothing like a Samsung or an HTC where the stock ROMs are different from the aosp ROMs or CM based ROMs. The stock ROM for this phone is the CM ROM. The stock source is always released, every single day.
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Got it! Thank you!!
timmaaa said:
That's what I answered in my last reply. The CM nightlies are the source, all ROMs are built based on those nightlies (except for a couple). This phone is nothing like a Samsung or an HTC where the stock ROMs are different from the aosp ROMs or CM based ROMs. The stock ROM for this phone is the CM ROM. The stock source is always released, every single day.
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Not exactly true. CM is AOSP BASED, but modified - sometimes quite a bit. In the case of CM12S - this is a ROM specific to the OnePlus One. It isn't the same as CM12. It is only for this specific phone, and has some features in it that are specific to this phone.
I'm not sure why anyone would want to install Oxygen OS, unless they have just been brainwashed by OP that CM is now bad. Well that and the fact that CM still hasn't released 12S, nor am I convinced that they ever will. They seem to be pretty terrible when it comes to keeping up with the commercial side of things... Very amateurish.
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Not exactly true. CM is AOSP BASED, but modified - sometimes quite a bit. In the case of CM12S - this is a ROM specific to the OnePlus One. It isn't the same as CM12. It is only for this specific phone, and has some features in it that are specific to this phone.
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I know that CM is essentially aosp, and CM11S/CM12S is 99% CM11/CM12, with just a couple of fancy apps thrown in on top to make it seem a bit different. It really is just like a milestone release of the main CM branch, a stable release.
Not Exactly.
Heisenberg said:
I know that CM is essentially aosp, and CM11S/CM12S is 99% CM11/CM12, with just a couple of fancy apps thrown in on top to make it seem a bit different. It really is just like a milestone release of the main CM branch, a stable release.
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Not really. There are no apps of which I am aware that that put in the "S" release. But there are features specific to the needs of that device and to that user community that add value.
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Not really. There are no apps of which I am aware that that put in the "S" release. But there are features specific to the needs of that device and to that user community that add value.
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CameraNext, the custom lockscreen. Both apps that are unique to Cyanogen OS. I'm sure there are more but I don't run that ROM so I can't check. You can believe it or not, but Cyanogen OS is just CM with a few extra apps/features. Your lack of belief in it doesn't stop it from being true.