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First, my phone info as reported by Settings/About Phone:
Model: Samsung-SGH-I897
Firmware: 2.1-update1
Baseband: I897UCJH7
Kernel: 2.6.29 [email protected] #2
Build Number: ECLAIR.UCJH7
I have visited the ROM section and I probably dont need to tell you that it is just a little bit confusing (for me anyway)as to which ROM to use.
I would like to flash a new ROM to bring me up to FroYo and I "think" I want to use the Andromeda ROM. I have a couple of questions though.
First, (for the Devs) should I go ahead and flash to FroYo or wait for am Android 3.0 ROM (assuming one is forthcoming)?
Second, is the difference between the "themed" and "un-themed" ROM just cosmetic? Do they both function the same?
There are a few "how to" threads on flashing. They are very detailed and take you step by step. I'd suggest you read or watch the videos.
The questions about Andromeda are well covered in the thread. You just need to read through it. Flashing now or waiting is purely up to you. There's not a GB ROM that's stable enough to run day to day. There's only one that I know of and they are still working a lot of problems out of it.
Thank you.
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Second, is the difference between the "themed" and "un-themed" ROM just cosmetic? Do they both function the same?
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Yep, just prettier (in some cases that is).
I'm really looking for a ROM that is as close to "stock" Froyo as possible that will work well with my U.S. phone. I understand Cognition is built on the just released Rogers build, but should I use a Canadian build on my U.S. phone?
I'm using Cognition and find it really nice. No Canadian phrases coming out of it.
If you are going to flash your first rom make sure you read through the forums and figure your what you need to do. Everything that you need are in them. I just flashed my first rom this weekend. Forums are very helpful!!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897. Using Cognition, Firebird, and JL2 modem.
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I'm really looking for a ROM that is as close to "stock" Froyo as possible that will work well with my U.S. phone. I understand Cognition is built on the just released Rogers build, but should I use a Canadian build on my U.S. phone?
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I live in Canada and use an American captivate using the cognition ROM and it works just fine.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897
Serendipity 5.x is by far the best Captivate ROM out there, in my opinion. Fast, clean, stable, bloat-free, and tastefully themed.
I just flashed the un-themed version of Andromeda, needless to say I was and am still very pleased with it. It was my first time flashing a ROM and went very smoothly, I guess I just got sick of AT&T jerking around.
I might make a quick video comparing Andromeda 1.0 on the captivate to a stock captivate (my bro's). That is if there is any interest in one.
Btw does any one know when the over clocked kernels will be released, I'm pretty anxious to try them out.
How do you like Andromeda? I started with cognition, then used phoenix for a while and liked both of them. I switched to serendipity last week and it has been rock solid to be honest, but I am always wanting to tinker with this thing. I flashed the KNP1 modem today to see if I get the better data speeds people are reporting and am hoping to gain a little battery life.
I guess everybody has thier own favorite ROM. I am kind of leaning toward either Cognition or Phoenix but cant decide which one. I want as close to "stock" 2.2 (or 2.3) as possible and it looks like Cognition might be the way to go. I have read through the Cognition Wiki and cant determine which flavor of Android (2.2/2.3) Cognition 3.04 is based on (unless I missed it). Anyone know?
TayzGpa said:
I have read through the Cognition Wiki and cant determine which flavor of Android (2.2/2.3) Cognition 3.04 is based on (unless I missed it). Anyone know?
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There are some videos on you tube that walk you trough the flashing process that I found to be really helpful for my first flash. I also had a written walk thru up from this site. I had no problems with my first using these 2 restorers. Good luck. And andromeda looks very cool. There are also rom reviews on you tube that show you what the rom does. Good luck
Sent from my SGH-I897 using XDA App
jferg5 said:
There are some videos on you tube that walk you trough the flashing process that I found to be really helpful for my first flash. I also had a written walk thru up from this site. I had no problems with my first using these 2 restorers. Good luck. And andromeda looks very cool. There are also rom reviews on you tube that show you what the rom does. Good luck
Sent from my SGH-I897 using XDA App
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877652
If you haven't already please read through the guide in my sig.
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If you haven't already please read through the guide in my sig.
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I read through the guide "Guide for choosing the right rom for YOU" that you link to in your sig; and i see nothing about choosing the right ROM For me.
The title suggests that there is a guide to choosing a ROM - maybe a matrix of features, or a questions list to help someone decide. Instead the closest thing i find is one sentence "Go to the Android Development Section and read through different [ROM] threads to see what features will work best for you. I have also found it useful to read through the last couple of pages to see what other users think about the current version of the rom"
Did i miss something? Where is the guide to choosing the right ROM for me?
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I read through the guide "Guide for choosing the right rom for YOU" that you link to in your sig; and i see nothing about choosing the right ROM For me.
The title suggests that there is a guide to choosing a ROM - maybe a matrix of features, or a questions list to help someone decide. Instead the closest thing i find is one sentence "Go to the Android Development Section and read through different [ROM] threads to see what features will work best for you. I have also found it useful to read through the last couple of pages to see what other users think about the current version of the rom"
Did i miss something? Where is the guide to choosing the right ROM for me?
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I agree. Something like "answer these 20 questions and here's the ROM that most matches what you want" would be great. I am still trying to figure it out.
What I am looking for is, if AT&T (or Samsung for that matter) were to finally release FroYo, here is what it would most likely look like and how it would probably perform. I'm still thinking Cognition is the closest since it was based on the Canadian FroYo release but *MAN* can it be confusing.
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I read through the guide "Guide for choosing the right rom for YOU" that you link to in your sig; and i see nothing about choosing the right ROM For me.
The title suggests that there is a guide to choosing a ROM - maybe a matrix of features, or a questions list to help someone decide. Instead the closest thing i find is one sentence "Go to the Android Development Section and read through different [ROM] threads to see what features will work best for you. I have also found it useful to read through the last couple of pages to see what other users think about the current version of the rom"
Did i miss something? Where is the guide to choosing the right ROM for me?
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The point of that is so that you figure out what is best for you, not that I am telling you what to do. I am simply trying to GUIDE new users on how to go about making informed decisions on which ROM they choose. Too many people rely solely on what others say instead of trying things for themselves, which is why I created that post encouraging people to discover new things.
If you have questions about a certain rom, post in the ROM thread in the dev section. If you don't have 10 posts yet and still have questions, then post in the Q&A section, not captivate general.
What I don't think new users understand is that almost every person has a different preference about what ROM, kernel and modem combo work best. Me personally, I love di11igafs ROMs, but many other people prefer different things. Its pretty much like asking a group of random people, "what is the best car on the market and what options would get with said car?" Almost everyones answer will vary slightly.
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I agree. Something like "answer these 20 questions and here's the ROM that most matches what you want" would be great. I am still trying to figure it out.
What I am looking for is, if AT&T (or Samsung for that matter) were to finally release FroYo, here is what it would most likely look like and how it would probably perform. I'm still thinking Cognition is the closest since it was based on the Canadian FroYo release but *MAN* can it be confusing.
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Like you, I recently started trying to figure this out after getting an AT&T Captivate and I agree about the need for a better listing for features (or lack of) for each ROM. A good matrix to compare would be nice, but I fear there are so many people working on these things and it all moves so fast, it would be a full-time job just to keep it up. Reading through all this stuff is quite overwhelming. However, I honestly think it's not bad once you figure out the basics and understand the ropes. By the time you get the things to load on your phone, with Clockworkmod Recovery, Odin and some other tools, life is pretty simple--the devs have done all the hard work, you're just flashing the stuff and figuring out what you like best.
Here is what I can tell you that may help and like I said, I'm pretty new at this, so someone *please* correct me if I'm wrong. I would not want to mislead anyone:
1. Cognition is an "Americanized" version of the Rogers 2.2 Captivate release. If you want 2.2.1 you have to use another custom ROM. Everything with Cognition appears to be well done, stable and smooth. I spent a couple hours trying to get wireless tether to work only to figure out MobileAP is built in and works
2. Look up the videos on YouTube by MobileTechVideos. They are very good and well produced, plus he looks at all the different ROMs. There is a 3-part video on loading Cognition on a captivate. I used it to load 3.04 on mine in almost real time right with the video. The only thing I would caution you on is if you use Titanium Backup to restore apps, be careful about "select all" like he says you can do in the video. I'm not sure if I had backed up system data and accidentally restored it or what--didn't go back that far to check, but after I did my restore I thought everything was fine and I could not make outgoing calls the next day. I reloaded from scratch following the videos again and this time use TB to restore one app+data at a time and was very picky about what I did and it worked wonderfully.
3. Once I got everything working I started to get curious about kernels. Once you have your ROM loaded, you can flash a new kernel (has to be same version as the ROM) and you can get enhancements with speed and other things by doing so. However, I loaded Firebird and did not notice in the thread that Bluetooth doesn't work yet, so I'm trying to figure out if I can go back or if I have to start over. Not a big deal to start over since I know what I'm doing now, just want to push the limits a little cause that's how I roll For some reason after Firebird I also seen duplicate photos on my SD card, even though there were only singles. It's like thumbnails were duplicated or something. I moved the pics off to my PC and it left blank thumbnails behind. I deleted them from the gallery and put the pics back and everything cleared up. I've seen stranger things--no biggie.
4. Battery life was fairly bad at this point, dropping 10-15% or more per hour. My phone came with the JH7 modem (last digits of your Baseband version in Settings -- About Phone). Cognition 3.04 comes with JL1 and many others were reporting great battery life with JL2 so I flashed it and everything seems to be much better so far. I haven't reset the battery stats and such, but I will at some point. Looks like a lengthy process that may or may not help.
5. I see a lot of "do I have to flash to stock first" questions posted and from what I understand, it's best practice to follow the instructions and don't ask why--just do it. Learn how to backup and restore apps+data (not system data) using TB and it's no big deal.
6. I read a lot about different builds of the Captivate--lots of posts about 1006, 1007, 1008's so I was concerned about the issues discussed. I'm guessing these were the early releases. I got mine at the end of January and it's a 1012. Look under your battery right under the serial number.
I suppose once I have this part of it working well and figured out, I will probably start looking into themes and digging deeper. It's pretty addictive so once you start, you just keep wanting more and more and making it better and better. Thanks to all the devs out there. I plan on making a few donations soon, especially to Designgears since his stuff is mostly what I've worked with so far.
My advice is to take a day or two and read *A LOT*. The old carpenters saying is "Measure twice and cut once" and that is pretty much how I look at this stuff. After you figure out how the puzzle pieces fit together, you lose the fear.
Hope this helps and if I would appreciate it if someone more advanced can confirm my statements or correct me.
Wanted 2 know what Radio individuals using this Rom flashed: the Recommended one or another?
If something other than the Recommended Radio, what Radio r u using? & any probs using this different Radio?
Thanks in advance.
Hank
Newish Noob to Boob Noob...
DocHollywoodHank said:
Wanted 2 know what Radio individuals using this Rom flashed: the Recommended one or another?
If something other than the Recommended Radio, what Radio r u using? & any probs using this different Radio?
Thanks in advance.
Hank
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Howdy Hank, and Welcome. MOST devs will ask that you please read the guides and search thru what become diluted and crappy threads. Avoid Techie Litter and READ Mr. Clowns One stop Inspire Guide - in the Forum Inspire 4G Android Development - you'll want to bookmark it. There is a lot of repetition, so I can paste the best and most vital below.) and search so that you would avoid re-creating already answered threads. From what I gather and experienced, it is very repetitious and annoying answering our simple questions - its a puzzle we havent pieced together, and its on us to do that. After being somewhat literate in the geekspeak (sorry DevS!!) and you start getting more relevant inormation processed and formatted in your own Hard drive -BRAIN- You begin formulating more specific and pertinent questions. Until then, if and if and when you get an answer, the word or incomplete sentence they respond with is to encourage searching, again. - Your problem is most likely NOT unique. Informed and Deliberate SEARCHING and READing before asking is vital. YOU need to know and understand what you are doing. I Did Not. I found out the hard way.... also be sure to post all threads in appropiate section, no double posting.
We have some great developers on our forum, and the Moderator -Mr. Clown- DOES CLEAN HOUSE.
Hi Mr. Clown! Anyone ever told you how utterly freaky your profile pic is?
Finally, when your in exasperation, because you did not listen to that little voice in your head (or developer within) - and if you cant find your answer after SEARCHING - its probably a viable question. with that said....
I will post a link or two at the bottom for you. From what I gather, especially until you have some experience flashing (make a Nandroid backup everytime!!!) It would be best to stick with your stock radio. One of the most finnicky parts of rom management is flashing radios, and without a successful flash, your looking at a 500$ paperweight. Each device, (Inspire) is the same yet also different. The radio that JimBob uses and loves, may scrabble your signal and/or cause battery issues, connectivity issues etc... Dont get too caught up in maximizing the performance of your device, as simply rooting your phone and installing almost any kustom Rom/Kernal will all but increase performance to maximum. (Edit - soon you'll learn about over and under clocking... THINK SPEED!)
Flashing radios is one of the more dangerous and somewhat advanced manuevers you can perform. Proceed with caution. Did I mention you must be rooted, with S-Off, and no fewer than a buttload of worries and clicks and blah blah later, you may possibly experience better signal/battery etc. However - you can also dramatically decrease performance, and or Brick your device. I cannot stress this enough. I took these admonitions with somewhat of a lackadaisical (carefree) attitude, and many deep breaths and fingers crossed later - have learned to appreciate how much more BadA$$ my device is just being rooted, and breaking those stock parameters... YOUR PHONE IS SMART - DO NOT BE STUPID.
If you really really must flash a radio, you will also need the corresponding RIL code for said radio. Some come packaged with the radio, not all do. I only began looking earnestly into radios over the last couple of weeks, and the results were varied, but none performed better than stock. Remember a radio must be in PD98IMG.zip format or installation will be aborted. Before I climb down off my pedestal of recently acquired knowledge, let me say some of the links and the threads and info posted can often sound appealing - but lead to some pretty Pre 3G performance and worse. Sometimes there are alternatives and occasionally things will sound contradictory, However the devs usually find common ground and work together to keep everything streamlined and portaled. No. Ported. I think.
Some folks prefer the 50 click/usb debug/ abkpush method by RogerRabbitt whilst others prefer a different, easier(?) yet still (often) HIT and MISS flash from recovery... Best Way - Boot into Recovery, and Manage things yourself. You know its wiped, flashed, if not flashed - why, etc. And lets face it, the geek factor is pretty damn cool. Controlling your phones operating system is Extremely Fragile territory, but you'll feel awesome when whooing the ladies with your new P.C. slang.
"HI I am Dyliho, and Your Amazingly Beautiful...What do you say you give me SuperUser Permissions - and I Root that StockRom you've got, then I can flash your Kernal with MY Uploaded Zip, and really get you going..."
Take this with a grain of salt - but I found a method where simply renaming your radio download to 98PDIMG.zip, and placing it to the root of your sd card (sd/), then power off, then holding vol. down THEN power and hold which brings you into bootloader. As it will do everytime, it searches for the PD98IMG.zip, only this time finds it (you just created it and put it on the root of your SD) - and it takes over and you follow directions - yields seemingly flawless results (as far as flashing is concerned) and avoids some pretty scary things I have read about PermaBricks. ALWAYS CHECK MD5 SUM TO ENSURE NO FILES WERE CORRUPTED DURING TRANSFER/DOWNLOAD BEFORE YOU FLASH. Before you Flash. AGAIN - before you flash verify... The md5 sum when matching Devs md5 sum is verification the file is complete. A RADIO MUST BE WHOLESOME AND CLEANLY TRANSFERED/DOWNLOADED. Other Stuff is fixable (generally) or just wont flash, but no harm no foul.... A failed radio boot you can't recover from they say. I dont want to know. Three radios flashed for me yielded horrible results with signal and battery for One, while the ATT Radio and New Update seem to yield the same statistics. Its only 48 hours into this ATT Update though, as I said before, I have messed up. You do not need ENG S-Off, only A rooted phone with S-Off to flash the radio. Please sir, READ READ READ and put the pieces together yourself, and check comments frequently. I WISH YOU LUCK, and if you inform yourself, you should be Fine.zip
Oh Yeah!! The Rom I Married is MiUI. A brand new stable release can and will be dropping any moment. Try it, I LOVE IT. Some hate it, too much of an iOS look, iphone may be inferior, but aesthetics is the one of the most yet also least amazing things about this Rom. Performance is AMAZINGLY Awesome, using Cyano#6 by Cattleprod, a devoted kernal tweaker - and the Inspire Support for MiUI by Symonc is Top-Notch. The guy is literally bombarded with posts and he is quick to help and usually has the fix, if he hasnt already answered it twice. STOCK radio in my opinion was made for this Rom (not factually, every device is different to an extent, remember that.) Aside from speed and potential Phone Frying Performance + a thousand other awesome features, MiUI has the guilt free bonus of Not Accepting Donations. Though I dont guess they would kill you if you did...
My Radio was stock 12.19.xx.xx.30.06.04.06(?) And now I have the OTA Update by either Att or HTC. 26.06.06.06(?) ----->(never do Over The Air Updates for stock software, I found a radio_update someone posted, and used the download link. remember - you've been rooted!!)<------
What I would call the MUST READS. For Now. Then Later Re-Read, and it'll all come together....
MudKnots Awesome guide : More Comprehensive - Covers Goldcards, Rooting, Flashing, Recovery, Fixes etc... ----> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033353
ShadowFoxs SweetA$$ Radio Guide : Technical and RISKY. BE Informed ----> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12264291#post12264291
DarkAdriens Comprehensive Battery Performance Guide:
-----> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937080
Finally - Turbonium X audio fix. Must Have - get better speaker quality now.
-----> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937080
Theres other stuff, But I thinks me rattled on too long...
BTW - This was all done using:
-MyPocketWizard-
And lastly - forgive me for assuming your a new comer to Xda, more specifically -a Rooted Android. I kind of wanted to get it all out myself, as I have spent the better part of a month anxiously Flashing for Performance and winding up soft-bricked and boot-looped. The Last 48 hours I spent Optimizing my phone to Holy Batman and back to soft brick, somehow frying or damaging my SD card - and finally - back to a glorious example of superb performance. Its all bare bones too, save for (that awesome developers name here) Tinny Audio Fix for Inspire and Desire HD.
Oh yes --- and all Desire HD (HD) files should be perfectly compatible with INSPIRE. THERE. now I AM DONE. Once you find your Rom/Kernal combo Stick with it. THE DEVS ROCK! with awesome and constant updates!!! - WOOOO! Did ya make it thru? Everything else is slightly more complicated and technical... Let Your Fun Begin!!! And GoodDay and GoodNight. You may be playing a while....
I tried out that ROM with the suggested radio. I ran it for @4 days. I couldn't keep a good signal around town and I could never get a solid gps lock. I went back to stock radio and MIUI. You will probably get more answers if you ask the question in the thread about the ROM so everyone using the ROM sees your question.
Gotcha
darkside1904 said:
I tried out that ROM with the suggested radio. I ran it for @4 days. I couldn't keep a good signal around town and I could never get a solid gps lock. I went back to stock radio and MIUI. You will probably get more answers if you ask the question in the thread about the ROM so everyone using the ROM sees your question.
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Attempted to ask ?? in ROM thread but being new to site it wouldn't let me...Got message I didn't have at least 10 posts on site so I couldn't reply in the thread...
Anyways, thanks for the info on ur experience w/ the ROM. Just Rooted my phone bout an hour ago & was looking for a ROM to flash & thought I would try this one. All of this is new to me so I am taking BABY steps.
Thanks dyliho!
Thanks for the noob to noob info. Much appreciate.
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Thanks for the noob to noob info. Much appreciate.
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Trust me man, it is No problemo. I did not take baby steps, and went a day several times working through worthless threads, erring on the side of caution. Then when I got it running again - I dove back in. I just got it back to badass - and the great thing is I am only running MIUI and Cattlprods Cyano Kernal with the OTA updated radio, and the ever needed Tinny Audio fix by that other awesome dude...
There are lots of things people do to make thier Inspires Inspiring. The developers wind up incorporating these to a great extent into thier work, making it easy for you. And when you download a rom, link the thread - developers really enjoy and need the CRITICAL input... the noob onslaught that tires them. Thank them, and show your love by donating if/when possible. Youll learn to love it, if you dont already. MiUI, its gonna be ready.soon, if not now(?!)
Get ready.to have a completely customized user interface (if you desire) and amazing performance at an amazingly reliable and small package. Bigger is not always better on Android...
-MyPocketWizard-
DocHollywoodHank said:
Wanted 2 know what Radio individuals using this Rom flashed: the Recommended one or another?
If something other than the Recommended Radio, what Radio r u using? & any probs using this different Radio?
Thanks in advance.
Hank
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Dyliho must be a politician; in all his rambling he didn't really truly answer your specific questions very well and I'm not sure he's even used the ROM you are specifically asking about. But his posts do contain unsolicited info on forum rules, conflicting reasons on why you should and shouldn't flash a radio, some blurbs about MIUI and symonc, and something about being lackadaisical.
You asked for feedback, so here is mine. As you may know, TPGB-CM20110509 is a Gingerbread ROM based on CM7 build 61. The recommended radio (26.06.06.30) is the new radio that was pushed to the stock Inspire ROMs at the end of April. I've used this radio on TPGB-CM20110509 and CM7 build 69, and this radio is performing very well. The matching Radio Interface Layer (RIL) for this radio is HTC-RIL_2.2.0079HM, which was also pushed out to the stock Inspires at the same time as the radio. I've had very good results with this RIL, as well as the RIL that now comes with CM7 (HTC-RIL_2.2.0099HM). My battery life has never been better. As with a lot of custom ROMs, my GPS totally sucked, but using the GPS fix mentioned in my sig fixed this issue (GPS now locks in under 5 seconds outdoors, 7-15 seconds indoors). Speeds are also great with my APN fix applied (see sig). So my recommendation is to definitely try out this radio. If you need any help or instructions feel free to PM me. I'm also still fully supporting my APN thread in the Dev section if you have any issues with that.
@henrybravo a smidge off-topic but which gps fix did you flash? I flashed North America and I was curious if you are having better results using just the area you are located.
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@henrybravo a smidge off-topic but which gps fix did you flash? I flashed North America and I was curious if you are having better results using just the area you are located.
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I don't plan on traveling outside of my region in the near future so I just flashed the region specific file - in my case it is GPSFIX_SouthMidState.V1.2.zip. I haven't flashed the overall North American fix, how is that one working out for you?
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Dyliho must be a politician; in all his rambling he didn't really truly answer your specific questions very well and I'm not sure he's even used the ROM you are specifically asking about. But his posts do contain unsolicited info on forum rules, conflicting reasons on why you should and shouldn't flash a radio, some blurbs about MIUI and symonc, and something about being lackadaisical.
You asked for feedback, so here is mine. As you may know, TPGB-CM20110509 is a Gingerbread ROM based on CM7 build 61. The recommended radio (26.06.06.30) is the new radio that was pushed to the stock Inspire ROMs at the end of April. I've used this radio on TPGB-CM20110509 and CM7 build 69, and this radio is performing very well. The matching Radio Interface Layer (RIL) for this radio is HTC-RIL_2.2.0079HM, which was also pushed out to the stock Inspires at the same time as the radio. I've had very good results with this RIL, as well as the RIL that now comes with CM7 (HTC-RIL_2.2.0099HM). My battery life has never been better. As with a lot of custom ROMs, my GPS totally sucked, but using the GPS fix mentioned in my sig fixed this issue (GPS now locks in under 5 seconds outdoors, 7-15 seconds indoors). Speeds are also great with my APN fix applied (see sig). So my recommendation is to definitely try out this radio. If you need any help or instructions feel free to PM me. I'm also still fully supporting my APN thread in the Dev section if you have any issues with that.
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Bravo Henry Bravo, you have scrutinized my flawed intro to the man. No reason to be a hater. People left the dude hanging... I thought it was pretty good, and it cleared up for me a lot of what I have been Consumed with. I recently edited and tried to clarify, however I stated this was from a Noob to a Noob. He just joined, and what I have read was good - However So much wasnt presented in an easy to digest manner. People have Threads, buried in threads, buried in posts. No one else would take the time to say that - so I did. If its illicit, or too off topic. Mr. Clown will be along shortly...
I am no politician. Poly=Many Tics=Bloodsuckers. We have to band together in the worst way possible to overcome differences and make the world a better place. I only wanted to help. Dont bust on the Noobies - We Can Learn just Like You good sir.
[If you need any help or instructions feel free to PM me. I'm also still fully supporting my APN thread in the Dev section if you have any issues with that.[/QUOTE]
You didnt take offense because you werent mentioned did you? For someone who just joined, and even to me at times, these things can be difficult to decipher.
And I had no clue TPDj8764 or whatever was a ROM.
Geez Man - Build A Buddy Up, And Encourage One Another.
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Wanted 2 know what Radio individuals using this Rom flashed: the Recommended one or another?
If something other than the Recommended Radio, what Radio r u using? & any probs using this different Radio?
Thanks in advance.
Hank
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And Sorry Hank, I didnt know Tgbpr6743 was a Rom. I assumed it was auto correct gone haywire or something of the sort - and you were asking about radios in general. Henry is Talented and Wise, if nothing else, however if your speeds are good the wont get much better, for a moment... I will let Henry_Bravo explain it to you in that fancy Zip talk I mentioned works well with the ladies...
The Point was, of ALL the Important Need to Have Get Go's, and The 80 Versions out there - Those are most relevant, in my opinion.
Peace and Again - Apologies. Wasnt it perfect though? You have an Example of the SmartAss Condescending Techie - It wasnt Nice, but courtesy is a concept very few can get. I hope I helped. And in case you dont know what a sig. is yet, Here is a link to HenryBravos SuperAwesomeDataMaxFix....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1042553
-MyPocketWizard-
This is the most wordy thread I have seen in quite a long time. Dyliho, I can't read your posts. Way too wordy. I'm sure you are trying to help but, God man. Or are you a woman. That might explain it actually.
I have used 26_06_06_30_M radio in about 7 different ROMs and it has been the best for me. Maybe give it a try. I live in Central Pennsylvania.
Thanks to All Who Have Replied
Thanks every1. From the long 2 the short replies, I gleened valuable info from each. Yes, I am a noob & was glad 2 recieve all info I did in this thread.
Was successful in Rooting my phone & installed the GingerBeast ROM last night as a place to start. Just Flashed it & nothing more at this time. Will play w/ it later 2day & c how everything goes.
Ultimately do want to try the TPGB-CM20110509 ROM, but was concerned bout the Recommended Radio being different than mine & GingerBeast utilized mine so I felt more comfortable trying it for the 1st go round.
Again, going at it slow & reading/learning as much as I can b4 trying things.
Appreciate any & all help.
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You didnt take offense because you werent mentioned did you?
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Yes you figured me out. I was indeed highly offended. [/S]
LOL @kimtyson's post above.
Using 26.06.06.30_M since flashing this rom, working fine for me. GPS locks fast, speeds are good.
Can anyone tell the important and practical advantages of rooting and installing Infused ROM? I Am just looking for a useful reason to waste my time
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Read the change logs in the very first post, if nothing there appeals to you than don't bother, if nothing makes SENSE to you, read more like I did before diving in lol.
Short answer is, because its fun, addicting, customizing, unlocks features, removes bloatware.....makes it YOUR PHONE, not AT&T's (assuming you don't have Rogers.) Things like Wi-Fi tethering and GPS lock on times are fixed or improved. Stuff like that, plus the whole process can be somewhat addicting. Lol
Infused
Hehe..... So, no usefulness in rooting I guess.... Can you post the link by the way...
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Not sure how, on my phone. Lol, but if you go to the infuse developers section, you CANT miss it. Big huge title says something along the lines of, [Infused, V2.#.# (gingerbread) blah blah blah] haha.
But ATM the download portion is down because the Canadian release doesn't use 4g, so he's fixing a little quirk with it right now, than it'll be back up I'm sure, gtg is pretty quick.
Also, rooting is different than flashing a Tom, rooting gives you complete control over your phone, gets rid of market branding (I think), and allows 3rd party apps (be carefully)
Flashing a ROM is replacing the current operating system with the SAME one but streamlined and bareboned, or a better one that's streamlined and bareboned. (Or at least that's how I think of it.) Usually involving better apps, updates, and unlocked features.
So yes there is a benifit I guess lol.
Infused
So, what is infused ROM? I suppose it is custom ROM... Right?... So, what the hell is CWM then?
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All of this info is readily available, when I first got my android I was a little confused to, hell, I still am =P
But here is the skinny,
Root simply means you are granting the phone or yourself super user access. What does that mean you ask... well, it pretty much gives you ultimate admin rights. From here, you can theme, mod, install roms, alter/move/delete system files etc.
Roms are the creations of enhanced versions of the stock os all ready available, and sometimes not available ie gtg's gingerbread rom. The benefits to these"aftermarket" roms vary from rom to rom. You will need to research each one specifically to see what fits your desires.
Although your question seems simple, it its infact a big question that is far to vague, simply put, custom roms made by experienced developers will 99.9% always be superior to stock, but for different reasons. So please research and you will see that there are varying types of directions... Unless you want gb on infuse, kinds only one direction for that at the moment.
Infused with gingerbread **** thanks GTG465X
Thanks, you articulated my thoughts better lol.
CWM is ClockWorkMod, used commonly for its rom manager feature, it helps make flashing the rom's easier, and can install a clockwork recovery mode that replaces the stock 3e recovery the phone comes with, and is far more useful.
Infused
You need root. Normally I'd suggest going with a ROM, but right now the only ROM actively being developed is Infused. However, this is the first ROM where I have gotten very bad response from those who develop the ROM, as well as backlash for the community when I bring up bugs on the releases. Any other phone has developer communities that are helpful and very nice, and receptive to constructive criticism, but it's like Apple sent their goons over for Infused, and both the developers and the fanboys of the developers act like it's some gift from god. Everything released from the Infused team has had some fairly significant bugs, right now the bug is poor data speeds (kinda silly since we bought the phone for it's "4G" being the primary function), but as always, enter at your own risk.
Seriously bella? the only issues I have seen with this community has been antagonized by you. Hell, out of curiosity I check done of your post history... Surprise surprise, most of the post are you complaining. This thread case in point, seriously had to drag your bull **** to another thread, grow the hell up.
just get your sg2 already and take your negativity to another forum. All you ever do is ***** like a whiny baby. Good luck and good riddance, we won't miss you.
Infused with gingerbread **** thanks GTG465X
Krant, don't let Bella's bs confuse you, this phone has to notch devs, with fantastic roms and kernels. Apparently if the devs can't part the seas and build a rom that get 100 hours of staight heavy use batt life then they don't deserve to give us free development
Infused with gingerbread **** thanks GTG465X
Krant, welcome to the forums.
I disagree with Bella - we have an excellent community here, the only problem is that we have an unusual number of people who post in the ROM threads in development when it is clear they have not even read the first post of the thread. We also have people who complain about a ROM without any evidence to back up their complaint, and get hostile when a dev asks them to run a specific test.
On the positive side, the level of coordination we have between developers is FAR better than most other devices. That's why right now you don't really see any junky "hey look I can deodex too!" ROMs.
So far you're off to a good start, you didn't post in the dev forum and you're making an effort to learn. I suggest you take some time to do some research and Googling.
Another thing adding to the confusion here is that with Android, there are two portions of the system that can be separately customized. The kernel is the base operating system, with hardware drivers and such. The ROM is actually what us kernel hackers call "userland" - the stuff layered on top of a kernel to produce a nice usable system.
Most ROMs include a custom kernel, but in many cases you can flash other kernels over it.
Never flash a ROM/kernel intended for another device. (An exception to this rule may eventually come for userland ROMs, but for now that's the rule.)
CWM is a low-level "recovery" tool that allows new files to be flashed to your device that often can't be flashed to a running system. It's most often used for flashing new ROMs, but can sometimes be used for flashing tweaks to a ROM.
And things like that will only scare people away from these forums, i sincerely feel like there are an alarming number of negative, rude people on XDA, and those who AREN'T, are usually Dev's or working with them, Hence my post from like, a month ago in an ENTIRELY different subject lol. And also why i try so hard to be informative, even with what little knowledge i have. please dont go because of a few bad apples, ive seen it ruin peoples experience with there phones.
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Ive cruised these forums for about 8 months now, and i have to say, out of all the forus ive ever been apart of, (PC, Truck, Motorcycle, you name it) this is filled with the worst ratio of rude, abrasive people ive ever seen on a forum, and am surprised that the mods make no attempt to instill respectful comments to one another.
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And it got Thanked,... twice... and it wasnt even by the people getting chewed out, (Although for a valid reason. DONT post nonsense in a Dev thread....oh my GOD they take that seriously here lol)
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All of this info is readily available, when I first got my android I was a little confused to, hell, I still am =P
But here is the skinny,
Root simply means you are granting the phone or yourself super user access. What does that mean you ask... well, it pretty much gives you ultimate admin rights. From here, you can theme, mod, install roms, alter/move/delete system files etc.
Roms are the creations of enhanced versions of the stock os all ready available, and sometimes not available ie gtg's gingerbread rom. The benefits to these"aftermarket" roms vary from rom to rom. You will need to research each one specifically to see what fits your desires.
Although your question seems simple, it its infact a big question that is far to vague, simply put, custom roms made by experienced developers will 99.9% always be superior to stock, but for different reasons. So please research and you will see that there are varying types of directions... Unless you want gb on infuse, kinds only one direction for that at the moment.
Infused with gingerbread **** thanks GTG465X
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the raffman explained root acces well indeed. I heard another explain it as gaining root access to your phone is the same as logging in to your computer with admin rights; you can make all sorts of changes. However, not having root access to your phone is like logging in to your computer as guest; you can change very little.
I rooted my phone a few days out of the box. Don't get me wrong; I was impressed with its performance. Since then I've flashed roms, kernels, bricked my phone, brought it back to life with odin3 many times. It is exciting and wicked fun to push this phone to its limits. Props to all the devs that enable my habit. Root and flash and I am sure you will never look back.
Root and flash and I am sure you will never look back.[/QUOTE said:
And make sure you do tons of research on how to unbrick it, and know what NOT to do.
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Entropy512 said:
Another thing adding to the confusion here is that with Android, there are two portions of the system that can be separately customized. The kernel is the base operating system, with hardware drivers and such. The ROM is actually what us kernel hackers call "userland" - the stuff layered on top of a kernel to produce a nice usable system.
Most ROMs include a custom kernel, but in many cases you can flash other kernels over it.
Never flash a ROM/kernel intended for another device. (An exception to this rule may eventually come for userland ROMs, but for now that's the rule.)
CWM is a low-level "recovery" tool that allows new files to be flashed to your device that often can't be flashed to a running system. It's most often used for flashing new ROMs, but can sometimes be used for flashing tweaks to a ROM.
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Entrophy512,
I've had my superInfuse for over a month now, I have it rooted, flashed Infused 1.53, 2.0Beta1,2,3,stable2.00, 2.01, 2.02 and used CWM, SGS Kernal Flasher, etc. I thought I understood this all pretty well but you summed it up excellently!!! Thanks so much for that!
I will do my best to keep this short and also hope it hasn't already been answered for the sanity of the fantastic developers on this site. I know you guys hate repetition.
I've recently gone through a breakup with my now-ex, and we are not on speaking terms because of his inability to maintain sanity in some situations. My problem here is that he enjoyed continuously staying updated with the most recent updates and mods for my Charge. I have no clue how to do any of this modding, and since we are not on speaking terms, I don't know what to do about my laggy, hasn't-been-modded-in-months phone.
Before I ended communication, he spoke of a possible ICS update for my Charge. He told me it was solely open-ended developer stuff, no official update or anything, but that it was surprisingly stable. Even with him not in contact with me at this time, I would still like to see if I could do this 'update' myself. Is it possible for a complete noob like myself to do it? Or should I just leave it alone and find someone entirely more experienced to help me through it? If it's going to brick my phone with the slightest mistake, I'd rather not even try. But, like I said, you guys are the experts.
I would enjoy any kind of assistance, if possible, to install this pseudo-ICS; unless I can wait another however long the official update is for Verizon, un-root back to stock, and have the official ICS.
I guess my basic questions are:
When will the official ICS become available for my Charge through Verizon? I know it's available stock with the Galaxy Nexus (which I want quite badly) already.
Could a complete noob like myself do this with the help of you guys giving me links and step-by-step instructions (if you would be so kind)?
How easy is it to mess up without clear instructions?
I really appreciate any kind of input. MANY thanks for reading!
-Megan
No ics. No word on official update for ics. If I were you I would go back completely stock. Links are in dev section
mmassacurr said:
I will do my best to keep this short and also hope it hasn't already been answered for the sanity of the fantastic developers on this site. I know you guys hate repetition.
I've recently gone through a breakup with my now-ex, and we are not on speaking terms because of his inability to maintain sanity in some situations. My problem here is that he enjoyed continuously staying updated with the most recent updates and mods for my Charge. I have no clue how to do any of this modding, and since we are not on speaking terms, I don't know what to do about my laggy, hasn't-been-modded-in-months phone.
Before I ended communication, he spoke of a possible ICS update for my Charge. He told me it was solely open-ended developer stuff, no official update or anything, but that it was surprisingly stable. Even with him not in contact with me at this time, I would still like to see if I could do this 'update' myself. Is it possible for a complete noob like myself to do it? Or should I just leave it alone and find someone entirely more experienced to help me through it? If it's going to brick my phone with the slightest mistake, I'd rather not even try. But, like I said, you guys are the experts.
I would enjoy any kind of assistance, if possible, to install this pseudo-ICS; unless I can wait another however long the official update is for Verizon, un-root back to stock, and have the official ICS.
I guess my basic questions are:
When will the official ICS become available for my Charge through Verizon? I know it's available stock with the Galaxy Nexus (which I want quite badly) already.
Could a complete noob like myself do this with the help of you guys giving me links and step-by-step instructions (if you would be so kind)?
How easy is it to mess up without clear instructions?
I really appreciate any kind of input. MANY thanks for reading!
-Megan
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Girls?! On the internet?!
If you're not comfortable with any of this stuff then just go back to stock. There isn't any ICS, and there probably won't be, at least for a long time. best you can do is flash a theme or something.
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My vote? Just learn how to mod the phone! It's really not that hard. Here's a post to get you familiar: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/4847-guide-new-users-guide-everything-how-to-root-rom-kernels-radios-cwm/
Don't flash the Froyo or Gingerbread links at the bottom tho, they'd a bit dated. Just check that post out to get familiar with the terms and process. While you're there, download and install ODIN (there's a link in that post).
***Before we move on...do you have Titanium Backup in your app drawer? If not, spend the $7. It's so worth it because you can save the vast majority of your data. It's worth the $7 (you may have it already because the exbf may have bought it/installed it). Get it and Google how to use it--make a full backup of system apps, users apps, and data before doing anything else.**
So, once you've read that post on RootzWiki, have downloaded ODIN, and made a backup with Titanium Backup, come back here and flash THIS file (follow the link in the 2nd paragraph for detailed instructions): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1380430
OK. At this point you will be unrooted and have the latest Verizon updates on your phone. You can... choose to quit... or choose to mod more. Keep in mind, if you've figured out how to flash to stock, you know how to flash mods and can continue to mod.
If I were you, I'd check out TweakStock at this point. Flash the version WITHOUT the customized kernel. Probably your best bet. Themes should be coming out for TweakStock soon, so maybe you'll find something you like.
And yeah, regarding Ice Cream Sandwich... Not happening, at least for awhile. Don't worry about it--only the Galaxy Nexus has it right now anyway.
Thank you! This was very helpful. I'm glad you pointed it out; yes, I do have Titanium. He had the paid version, signed in my phone with his Google account, and DL'd it onto my apps.
But here is another problem I have thought of-- I don't know what kind of ROM or Kernal I have...at all. No clue. Like I said, he was the expert. He always tried to show me how to do stuff, but it always went in one ear and out the other. I'm a girl who needs to be shown something from the beginning, by trial and error, and he would simply show me something 'cool' if he came across it and show me how to install it. Haha. Not saying that was ever a bad thing, I'm extremely interested in learning, but we never really had the time, and I don't want to be alone if I screw up.
go to settings> about phone and look at your firmware version. If it's 2.3.x you're on gingerbread. (you should be, if not your bf was a noob)
If you go to Settings and you see TSM Parts you're on Infinity.
If you see poop brown as a main color theme you're stock rooted.
If you go to your lock screen and it says TweakStock in the upper right hand corner you're on TweakStock.
GummyCharged and Humble are hard to distinguish. But chances are if you're not on any of the above, you're running Humble.
For kernel: if you run a program called Voodoo Control and it says status: ext4 active near the bottom, you're running imoseyon's repacked kernel. Anything else, you're either on stock or imnuts' repack.
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go to settings> about phone and look at your firmware version. If it's 2.3.x you're on gingerbread. (you should be, if not your bf was a noob)
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that made my morning! LOL
I agree, that made me LOL as well as the 'poop brown' color reference for stock root.
Well, I took a look and it turns out I have 2.3.4. Model number is GummyCharged GBE 2.0. Of course, I have no idea what this means at all. I'm just letting you guys be in the know in case you still feel like helping me. Haha.
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I agree, that made me LOL as well as the 'poop brown' color reference for stock root.
Well, I took a look and it turns out I have 2.3.4. Model number is GummyCharged GBE 2.0. Of course, I have no idea what this means at all. I'm just letting you guys be in the know in case you still feel like helping me. Haha.
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Well, the name of the ROM you're running is GummyCharged GBE (Gingerbread Edition) 2.0. It's very outdated now. Have you ran the batch backup for everything in Titanium yet?
mmassacurr said:
I will do my best to keep this short and also hope it hasn't already been answered for the sanity of the fantastic developers on this site. I know you guys hate repetition.
I've recently gone through a breakup with my now-ex, and we are not on speaking terms because of his inability to maintain sanity in some situations. My problem here is that he enjoyed continuously staying updated with the most recent updates and mods for my Charge. I have no clue how to do any of this modding, and since we are not on speaking terms, I don't know what to do about my laggy, hasn't-been-modded-in-months phone.
Before I ended communication, he spoke of a possible ICS update for my Charge. He told me it was solely open-ended developer stuff, no official update or anything, but that it was surprisingly stable. Even with him not in contact with me at this time, I would still like to see if I could do this 'update' myself. Is it possible for a complete noob like myself to do it? Or should I just leave it alone and find someone entirely more experienced to help me through it? If it's going to brick my phone with the slightest mistake, I'd rather not even try. But, like I said, you guys are the experts.
I would enjoy any kind of assistance, if possible, to install this pseudo-ICS; unless I can wait another however long the official update is for Verizon, un-root back to stock, and have the official ICS.
I guess my basic questions are:
When will the official ICS become available for my Charge through Verizon? I know it's available stock with the Galaxy Nexus (which I want quite badly) already.
Could a complete noob like myself do this with the help of you guys giving me links and step-by-step instructions (if you would be so kind)?
How easy is it to mess up without clear instructions?
I really appreciate any kind of input. MANY thanks for reading!
-Megan
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Megan... I love you...and I am sorry... I'm not sure if you were hoping i'd find your thread.
But heres the info needed incase.
It's the most recent rootzwiki gummycharged, it's outdated, but it's at least bloatfree. Stock leaked kernel from way back, but it was for sure 2.3. I don't play with ancient software.
When I said upadte, Verizon had finally gotten an Official 2.3, over the leaked, which I urged you to update to for stability, even with bloat, since most roms will now be based off the OTA. When I spoke of ICS, I meant on my phone, and I guess it's hard to exactly explain what open source is, roms, and ota's. But given a Dev and the right sources from Sammy and Google, it can run it. This phone just seems to lack the strong community it did with imnuts, like the fascinate.
Enjoy Inifinty. I'll be a better person someday in the long run, but right now, i've got a lot more to work on with myself rather than phones (which is why my ICS is kinda not a big deal to me as).
GL.
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Megan... I love you...and I am sorry... I'm not sure if you were hoping i'd find your thread.
But heres the info needed incase.
It's the most recent rootzwiki gummycharged, it's outdated, but it's at least bloatfree. Stock leaked kernel from way back, but it was for sure 2.3. I don't play with ancient software.
When I said upadte, Verizon had finally gotten an Official 2.3, over the leaked, which I urged you to update to for stability, even with bloat, since most roms will now be based off the OTA. When I spoke of ICS, I meant on my phone, and I guess it's hard to exactly explain what open source is, roms, and ota's. But given a Dev and the right sources from Sammy and Google, it can run it. This phone just seems to lack the strong community it did with imnuts, like the fascinate.
Enjoy Inifinty. I'll be a better person someday in the long run, but right now, i've got a lot more to work on with myself rather than phones (which is why my ICS is kinda not a big deal to me as).
GL.
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LMAO! Best.Post.Ever.
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Well, ****. This is awkward. ABANDON THREAD!
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Charge Insufficient Memory On Device
I rooted a Droid Charge for my boss using the altered beast method, and now no matter what I do. When I try to download from the market, it tells me there is insufficient space on the device. When there is plenty of room on the sd card, and internal. Can someone please help me, I've tried a reset, and clearing the cache, and download history in the market. Any help someone could offer would be much appreciated.
I bought my Charge about a year ago (still no 4G in our area but that's a whole other discussion . . .) and figured I'd wait until the manufacturer warranty expires before rooting my phone.
I glanced over the development page and noticed that JT is still working on ICS but it's not yet fully ready. Does anyone have a recommendation regarding which ROM to root to my phone? It will be the first time I've ever routed a device before but I know how to follow instructions, so I assume I'll be fine.
Any recommendations anyone can give me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, guys!
-Jay
Either Tweaked or Eclipse. Essentially, they're our only two choices, but they're both good quality. For kernels, most people like Imnuts' PBJ kernel.
Yeah, I was looking at that one (someone else suggested that one and the transparent ICS theme). It looks like one of the links comes already bundled with the PBJ you mentioned so I'll probably get that one.
One question I did have was regarding EX4. I don't know if I need it or not. I have a stock SDA card but I don't know how to check if it's EX3 or EX4 or if I even need that portion . . . I'd rather not have to wipe my SD card but it's really not all that hard to backup to a computer so I guess it's not a huge deal. I'd rather not do an extra step I don't need to do though.
So yeah, is there anywhere in the forums that talk about EX3 or EX4? I searched in these forums and found a few articles about it but I still don't know if it's something I need or not.
jbrookley said:
Yeah, I was looking at that one (someone else suggested that one and the transparent ICS theme). It looks like one of the links comes already bundled with the PBJ you mentioned so I'll probably get that one.
One question I did have was regarding EX4. I don't know if I need it or not. I have a stock SDA card but I don't know how to check if it's EX3 or EX4 or if I even need that portion . . . I'd rather not have to wipe my SD card but it's really not all that hard to backup to a computer so I guess it's not a huge deal. I'd rather not do an extra step I don't need to do though.
So yeah, is there anywhere in the forums that talk about EX3 or EX4? I searched in these forums and found a few articles about it but I still don't know if it's something I need or not.
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I'm pretty sure EXT4 conversion does not affect external memory. It will only convert the data/dbdata/cache/system partitions to the newer file system. So no need to worry about your SD card. Personally, I would not recommend converting to EXT4 at this point. There is always a chance you can corrupt your internal partitions and brick your device. It is very difficult to hard brick a Charge, but from what I can recall those that have have been a result of a bad ext4 conversion. Ever since the Gingerbread OTA was rolled out, RFS has been more than adequate for the Charge. While you do get higher benchmark scores with EXT4, difference in real world usage is negligible (from my experience).
And Tweaked is by far the best current ROM for this phone. It is hands down the best ROM ever made for the Charge. If Eclipse is ever updated again, I would give that one a chance too.
In my opinion, the only reason to convert to ext4 on EP4 or FP1 is to make nandroid backups work. If you don't intend to use nandroid, no reason to convert.
ext4 definitely has significantly higher I/O throughput, but you'll only see it in benchmarks. You won't see any difference in the real world.
Tweaked gets my vote and as for kernels go, an increasing number of people prefer the stock kernel over PBJT for various reasons. Try both to see what works best for you.
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I use Tweaked, and am very happy with it. I've tried PBJ kernel several times with EXT4, but can't get rid of some lag issues, so I keep going back to the stock kernel.
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I like tweaked - plus it gets the most support right now. I think the eclipse developer has a newer phone, so that ROM has probably seen it's last update.
additionally, you've also got great themers here like Blackness, etc...
finally, you don't have to choose a custom ROM when rooting - you can still stick with stock or a debloated/deodexed ROM. but that will lack the bells and whistles of a tweaked or Eclipse.
also keep in mind that there are very easy ways to revert back to stock (just ask blackness - I think he did that 28 times over a 10-hour span last weekend ) so VZW will never know that your phone has been rooted....
I have what is probably a very silly, basic question. If I want to root my phone to using tweaked 2.2, should I be following this guide (except with Tweaked, rather than GB 2.3.4)?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160580
Is there another guide you would recommend?
Also, I'm hoping to read a bit more about all the terminology for rooting phones, all the basics, etc. I've been able to find a couple of general guides (in this forum and using google) and each one teaches me a little bit but I figured I'd ask the masters. If you were just starting to look into this, what guide/articles/pages would you recommend reading?
jbrookley said:
I have what is probably a very silly, basic question. If I want to root my phone to using tweaked 2.2, should I be following this guide (except with Tweaked, rather than GB 2.3.4)?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160580
Is there another guide you would recommend?
Also, I'm hoping to read a bit more about all the terminology for rooting phones, all the basics, etc. I've been able to find a couple of general guides (in this forum and using google) and each one teaches me a little bit but I figured I'd ask the masters. If you were just starting to look into this, what guide/articles/pages would you recommend reading?
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That's as good of a guide as I've seen. I don't think I've ever had to "tap" the power button to get into download mode, fwiw. Just hold Vol down and plug it in.
There's not a whole lot you can screw up that Odin can't fix. Just make absolutely certain that your computer does not lose power and that your device does not become unplugged during any Odin'ing you do. I'd recommend going over to www.imnuts.org and pulling the EP4D and Charge.pit files in the event that you need to back out. Having them on your computer will save you the headache later on.
As far as guides, most of them are going to be really dated. The Charge community is winding down, and those of us who are left are generally pretty helpful and patient when it comes to questions. We don't have much in the way of guides because there is no large influx of newbies ever coming our way to clog up the forum. If you pay attention to Rootzwiki, there is a new fella who tried to do things on his own and got really frustrated by the lack of info. That lack of info is probably due to the fact that none of us really need it.
That said, if you run into a question, just ask. If nothing else, I'll try to help you out.
I had a babyzilla turn off my computer during the Odin process, and I was able to fully recover. So no real danger there.
Also, www.chargeforums.com has also got some helpful how to threads as well.
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jco23 said:
I had a babyzilla turn off my computer during the Odin process, and I was able to fully recover. So no real danger there.
Also, www.chargeforums.com has also got some helpful how to threads as well.
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I've read that you can get hosed if it stops in the middle of flashing the modem? I don't know if there's any validity to that.
Not really sure where it was the process, but it happened a few tines. The first two times were due to a certain web page freezing up my PC.
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For the record, I put Tweaked 2.2 w/PBJ on my charge, used tweaktools to add Transparent ICS and it looks and runs great. If anyone was considering whether or not to use it, I'd highly recommend it.
Thanks for your help, everyone!
Batdroid we had it for about oh I don't know maybe 30 mins to an hour....
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