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SetCPU? Juice Defender on infuse?

Does anyone use either of these apps on the infuse? What settings do you use? Do they help with battery life or make it worse.
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honestly i just think they waste more battery.
set cpu has it lower the cpu speed when its asleep then raises it again when you turn the screen on. seems like it would waste more battery.
and juice defender. same thing stops process that will eventually start agian more battery drain

ive used juice defender before and it works on some stock roms quite well. however custom roms i used on the captivate had zero improvement. it depends on a lot of things, really how much data the phone uses with the screen off. your sync options and apps will have a big effect. i honestly see no reason to improve the infuse. and at some point custom roms will not need any battery saver apps at all.
gingerbread roms tend to be better out of the box, so if there is a gingerbread update then the battery life should be very good for a stock smartphone

Funny you ask about JuiceDefender because I'm testing it as we speak and have been since early yesterday. I can report that it works pretty well actually. I was out and about for over 12 hours yesterday with JuiceDefender on the Agressive setting and I only lost 30% battery and that was with the screen on for about an hour and a half playing WordFeud (that game gets freakin addictive so I kept turning the screen on and off, on and off, on and off). Had I not been playing that game I bet I would only lost ~10-15%.

Setcpu works for me. I have it on 1200 and low 800 and on demand. When watching videos I set it to high n low to 400.

beatblaster said:
Funny you ask about JuiceDefender because I'm testing it as we speak and have been since early yesterday. I can report that it works pretty well actually. I was out and about for over 12 hours yesterday with JuiceDefender on the Agressive setting and I only lost 30% battery and that was with the screen on for about an hour and a half playing WordFeud (that game gets freakin addictive so I kept turning the screen on and off, on and off, on and off). Had I not been playing that game I bet I would only lost ~10-15%.
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What settings were you on? I used it yesterday for the first time and it completely killed my battery. I was loosing 8-10% an hour. I had the settings set to check once every 2 hrs that's it. Wifi preferred ect
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jthornton71707 said:
What settings were you on? I used it yesterday for the first time and it completely killed my battery. I was loosing 8-10% an hour. I had the settings set to check once every 2 hrs that's it. Wifi preferred ect
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The Aggressive profile is all I conf'd JuiceDefender to.

Overheating

Ive been noticing my phone getting hot under moderate use. I've been hitting 114°+ f. At what point should I be concerned
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I have noticed 114-116 with moderate use as well. After letting it sit, it cooled down fairly well. I think 120+ without use would be an issue. I wouldnt worry at 114 if you let it sleep and it drops after 15 minutes

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Ive been noticing my phone getting hot under moderate use. I've been hitting 114°+ f. At what point should I be concerned
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yes when I got my infuse my battery get's crazy hot, after a week, now it's not that hot anymore I think it's the battery need tyo be break-in after that it's going to be normal, and remember that Flash thing suck battery so much, when playing flash video it uses 4g, cpu is working hard, + display is on, when battery drains fast it will be very hot, so now I just use skyfire, because skyfire convert the video on their server, then stream it as a on a mobile friendly format, so the difference is it don't uses the cpu a lot, but with Flash cpu workload ia increase.
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Rldowney said:
Ive been noticing my phone getting hot under moderate use. I've been hitting 114°+ f. At what point should I be concerned?
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114?!
The hotter a battery gets the more it loses its ability to keep a 100% charge. I always keep my battery at least below 100* to be on the safe side so I don't degrade its ability to hold maximum charge.
Just like if you were to leave your phone in the car with the sun blazing that would be bad for the battery - I wouldn't allow it to get that hot.

Rldowney said:
Ive been noticing my phone getting hot under moderate use. I've been hitting 114°+ f. At what point should I be concerned
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Do you by any.chance have widgetsoid installed? I had the same problem turns out widgetsoid constantly makes the processor run at Max thus heating up the phone. I uninstalled and haven't gone over 105°... if it doesn't work backup with titanium backup and do a data wipe.
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[Q] Any Decent Battery Savers?

I was wondering if there are any good battery savers for the samsung infuse4G. i have the cpu tuner and not 100% sure how to use it. i have downloaded a half a dozen task manager/killers from the market. as of now i have "advanced task manager" killing every 5 min. i have some apps ignored. on the cpu tuner i messed around with it last night and got all things working fully on it. now it says everything but the power save and performance working. if there is anyone that uses this please let me know exactly how to use it. still a little confused about some settings. and if there is anything else i could try, let me know, and how to use it. Also i am currently on a different rom "bionix 1.2" i have Bluetooth and WiFi and all that normally off. the brightness is lower than 10 % all the time.

First, you posted this in the wrong section. Should be in general.
Second, setting your task manager to auto kill apps will decrease your battery life. On older versions of Android it may have helped, but on Froyo and newer some apps are loaded automatically in the background so they can open quicker when you access them or so they can receive notifications. These apps that are loaded in the background generally aren't doing anything at all and thus aren't using any extra battery. If you set your task manager to automatically kill them they will just keep loading, being killed, loading, being killed, etc., which DOES drain your battery.

i got a battery saver........INFUSED ROM FLASH IT!

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i got a battery saver........INFUSED ROM FLASH IT!
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After you flash the Infused ROM, turn auto-brightness off and do this to save battery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124102

keitht said:
After you flash the Infused ROM, turn auto-brightness off and do this to save battery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124102
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Me and keith have gotten gr8 batt life thus far
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tyshemi said:
i got a battery saver........INFUSED ROM FLASH IT!
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Oh ok sounds good. So after I have it flashed it'll go to work? And thanks

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Oh ok sounds good. So after I have it flashed it'll go to work? And thanks
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This is what I do and may or may not matter but I get great results. Before I flash a ROM, I make sure my battery is charged to 100%. Once you are done flashing the ROM, calibrate the battery by:
- Charge to 100% turned on. Wait for the beep and notification that it is fully charged.
- Unplug and turn the phone off. Once off, plug in and let charge until you see 100% on the screen.
- Unplug again and turn the phone on. Once fully loaded, plug in and charge 100% again.
- Power down into recovery and delete Battery Stats under Advanced menu then reboot.
- Power on and charge to 100% again.
Usually it takes a few days for the battery to settle in but following these instructions, I get instant results.

keitht said:
This is what I do and may or may not matter but I get great results. Before I flash a ROM, I make sure my battery is charged to 100%. Once you are done flashing the ROM, calibrate the battery by:
- Charge to 100% turned on. Wait for the beep and notification that it is fully charged.
- Unplug and turn the phone off. Once off, plug in and let charge until you see 100% on the screen.
- Unplug again and turn the phone on. Once fully loaded, plug in and charge 100% again.
- Power down into recovery and delete Battery Stats under Advanced menu then reboot.
- Power on and charge to 100% again.
Usually it takes a few days for the battery to settle in but following these instructions, I get instant results.
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I just did this. I have the infuse tomm with community voodoo and the battery goes from 100 to 60 in 2 hours with moderate use. I am a heavy tester and the brightness is almost 0 I'm not sure what I am doing wrong

Sorry I was on a phone when I typed that. Meant to say. I have the infuse the rom and I am a heavy texter. Have the brightness on almost 0 and I have CPU tuner going and task manager killing everything except 6 things every 5 min and when the screen is off. I can't figure out why my batter is dying so fast. Like it'll die with moderate use for around 5 hours. even if I have the screen off it'll die. I have some apps frozen with this bloat freezer.
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technokid said:
Sorry I was on a phone when I typed that. Meant to say. I have the infuse the rom and I am a heavy texter. Have the brightness on almost 0 and I have CPU tuner going and task manager killing everything except 6 things every 5 min and when the screen is off. I can't figure out why my batter is dying so fast. Like it'll die with moderate use for around 5 hours. even if I have the screen off it'll die. I have some apps frozen with this bloat freezer.
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Did you read post #2 here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14885241&postcount=2 Auto killing some apps will drain your battery faster than leaving them running. I didn't know this until now. So I have deleted all taskmanager apps I was trying and will only use JD without any task killing functions enabled.

I only use Advanced Task Killer to manually kill tasks. I also am careful not to install tons of stuff at once - that way if I get a "bad app" that eats battery I've got a good guess what the culprit is.
The autobrightness/swipe-brightness trick works great.
Kill WiFi if you're not using it.
The new Infusion undervolt kernel is awesome. One day I was at 50% at the end of a work day (admittedly WiFi was turned on but not in use for a good portion of that), the next day I was at 79% at the end of the day. (WiFi turned off + Infusion kernel set to undervolt with no overclocking.)

gtg465x said:
First, you posted this in the wrong section. Should be in general.
Second, setting your task manager to auto kill apps will decrease your battery life. On older versions of Android it may have helped, but on Froyo and newer some apps are loaded automatically in the background so they can open quicker when you access them or so they can receive notifications. These apps that are loaded in the background generally aren't doing anything at all and thus aren't using any extra battery. If you set your task manager to automatically kill them they will just keep loading, being killed, loading, being killed, etc., which DOES drain your battery.
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Ohh OK. So don't have any task manager; task killers at all? I just figured I would need to have all those apps killed so. I had it backwards. So should I have anything to help the batteRy?

Entropy512 said:
I only use Advanced Task Killer to manually kill tasks. I also am careful not to install tons of stuff at once - that way if I get a "bad app" that eats battery I've got a good guess what the culprit is.
The autobrightness/swipe-brightness trick works great.
Kill WiFi if you're not using it.
The new Infusion undervolt kernel is awesome. One day I was at 50% at the end of a work day (admittedly WiFi was turned on but not in use for a good portion of that), the next day I was at 79% at the end of the day. (WiFi turned off + Infusion kernel set to undervolt with no overclocking.)
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i just flashed that kernel. i mean i guess i have it on there. i flashed it cwm, and it said it was successful. so how does that save battery exactly? oh and now i see. i have cpu tuner, and it lets me go uhp to 1.6 ghz sweeeeeet. but wont that drain the battery even more?

technokid said:
i just flashed that kernel. i mean i guess i have it on there. i flashed it cwm, and it said it was successful. so how does that save battery exactly? oh and now i see. i have cpu tuner, and it lets me go uhp to 1.6 ghz sweeeeeet. but wont that drain the battery even more?
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Guess you missed my comment about undervolting without overclocking...
I use a task killer to manually kill apps, especially if one appears to be misbehaving. I NEVER use an autokiller.

The task manager that came with the phone is bad if you clear all running things at once? just got my android not familiar with this os
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smyc305 said:
The task manager that came with the phone is bad if you clear all running things at once? just got my android not familiar with this os
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Task killers don't work in froyo and above, because google disabled them.
They're bad. Period.
The one that comes with it is best to use sparingly.
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MikeyMike01 said:
Task killers don't work in froyo and above, because google disabled them.
They're bad. Period.
The one that comes with it is best to use sparingly.
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Wrong. Google did nothing to disable them, they just reduced the need for them and the effectiveness of them against many apps.
However, some apps just need a good killing when you're done with them, like Facebook. Facebook seems to inhibit a lot of power management functions from working properly... On my old device (AT&T Tilt2 running XDAndroid), Facebook was the #1 culprit as far as wakelocking a device.
However, as I said - autokillers are BAD, and randomly killing stuff unless you KNOW it's a pesky app can be bad.

use setcpu for profiles, e.g. screen off 100mhz - 200mhz with 100% priority.
running Infused 1.5 with Infusion 1.5 kernel (note that the UV in Infusion 1.5 is broken atm)
screen on auto
wifi/data on 24/7
made couple phone calls
navigation used for ~30 min
online surfing facebook/banking
work e-mail refresh every 5min from 7pm to 10am.
15% after 29hrs use. (is that good?)

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Wrong. Google did nothing to disable them, they just reduced the need for them and the effectiveness of them against many apps.
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You sir, are full of crap.
http://androinica.com/2010/08/froyo-update-kills-android-task-killer-apps/
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MikeyMike01 said:
You sir, are full of crap.
http://androinica.com/2010/08/froyo-update-kills-android-task-killer-apps/
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No, you are, as evidenced by you linking to an article that is almost a year old without checking to see if anything had changed since it was published. Advanced Task Killer is more than capable of killing apps - Google may have disabled it temporarily last August but it's been working since March of this year at least (That's when I first got a Froyo device). As I stated - some apps (like the Music app) are set up so they auto-respawn when killed, but they CAN be killed (However, autokilling them is going to eat your battery). A number of apps also do NOT auto-respawn, as I said before, Facebook is one example, and it's an example of an app that is notorious for eating battery and needing a task killer to take care of it.
Now the way sleep and power management works on our Infuse might mean Facebook is less problematic on our devices, but in the case of XDAndroid builds on MSM devices, the Facebook app clearly would prevent the device from entering deep sleep in a timely manner, causing it to eat battery like crazy. Killing it with Advanced Task Killer would fix the problem.
Edit: As another example, it can also kill the Browser process successfully, which is great for when the Browser process gets wacked out. I haven't had any issues with the Browser on the Infuse, but it could easily make the whole system extremely sluggish on XDAndroid Froyo builds.

[Q] Battery draining extremely fast. Any suggestions?

This rom used to be fine, now it is draining extrememly fast and I don't know why.
I am on Gingerbread KF2 and really haven't done anything else yet. I used to be able to make it through an average day of ~15 or so hours using the phone only for some messages, a call or two, and a few minutes of music. After this type of usage, the battery would be around 70-80% at the lowest usually. This is even with the screen at FULL brightness all day.
About a week ago, it started draining super fast. The same usage runs the phone down to about 20-30%, which is ridiculous. In battery stats, Android OS is always FAR above everything else with like 60%. A couple battery calibrations did nothing. I don't use task killers, but I do check my running apps. OS monitor didn't help me at all, and checking my currently running apps just showed mostly system apps that should not be draining hardly any battery at all.
Any suggestions? I think that about covers it all. This just has me stumped...

go through your apps and see how often they check for updates. there were a lot of updates recently and some settings may have changed. If nothing changed, can you do a quick scan with look out? Just to be safe. Also, try juice defender and set it to aggressive
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Lookout didn't pick up anything and I set JuiceDefender to aggressive. Will JuiceDefender warn me of an app using excessive battery?

Nope, that battery is still dropping like crazy. (8% in half an hour from almost no use.)
Maybe I just need to reflash and start over fresh...

It will take a day out two to settle in. is your phone sleeping properly when the screen in off? Press the volume keys once it locks and if it makes the sound then it if still on.
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It will take a day out two to settle in. is your phone sleeping properly when the screen in off? Press the volume keys once it locks and if it makes the sound then it if still on.
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Sleeping just fine.

Yea, I guess if you can't figure it out, you can reflash. That is a pain though. I would say to try out jd for a while longer and see if you get results. fb us usually the culprit for my battery drains, but if you checked all of your apps and changed them to manual, then there isn't much more you can do.try putting your screen to auto brightness
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So either juice defender is helping or ADW launcher was using excesive battery. It is working better today after I switched back to launcher pro, but still going down pretty fast.
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ADW doesn't really drain much battery for me. It actually uses less RAM compared to LauncherPro and Go Launcher (for me).
I think you should just try reflashing your ROM, maybe flashing the new GB ROMs too.
Also, are you sure you're doing the battery calibrations properly? That might also be an issue.

Maybe it's not your phone or ROM...
I've had several ROMs in the last few weeks and have noticed this behavior on many of them....after searching, I found this.
T-Mobile has apparently noticed some abnormal battery issues in areas with their "4G" HSPA+. They're asking people in their support forum for a bit of info to help them find the issue.
support[dot]t-mobile[dot]com /thread/3544
The problem was initially believed to be affecting the G2 only, but is now believed to be affecting all phones in their "4G" footprint that started when they updated their towers in late July. The update provides the government an emergency channel to use, but it appears that it may be causing network issues.

Thanks for bringing it up, this is affecting me too. i lose 20-40% battery PER HOUR of use on the phone at 25% screen brightness playing a card game online (no wifi, just on HSPA+). This is on a BRAND NEW flash of KH2 (GB 2.3.4).
The top half of the phone gets really hot and battery drains like crazy. ceasing data use cools it down and reverts to normal battery use.

"Hypermiler" (Battery Life) Tips

This is a little bit of a boast, I guess you could say... but also educational in a way.
This is my most recent battery life. I found that when I posted my screenshots, people think they are faked in some way. (Posted it here and other GS3 forums) They are not. I am using the stock battery my phone came with. NOT an extended battery. And you can see from the battery graph that the phone was not charged. I guess this is to show that you can use your phone heavily, and still get amazing battery life.
I am using the stock jellybean leak. Not rooted or unlocked.
This is everything I have done to get good battery life.
-I turned the LED touch lights off (I don't like them, they're so bright)
-I have all vibrations off. My phone does not ever vibrate.
-I have power save on.
-I have S-Voice "wake command" off.
-I have motion control disabled.
-I am almost always on wifi (work & home)
-When I am on wifi, I turn mobile data off.
-When I am going to bed, I put my phone in airplane mode.
-I rely heavily on the task manager, I clear my open windows and under the "RAM" tab I clear memory. Probably once an hour.
-I have my sync OFF. I check my email manually.
-Auto brightness.
-I never partially charge. I let my battery go all the way down to 1% then I charge it to 100%. Always.
-Always have a dark background, if possible.
Thats everything. Mind you, I didn't make or receive any phone calls on this cycle. But I did use my phone, as you can see I didn't just let it sit around. Device idle was like 3%?
Anyone else a "hypermiler" like me? I don't get this much screen time every time, it ranges from 5-7. I've gotten more than this and I've gotten less.
Hope this can help even if it's only a little.
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josh995 said:
-I rely heavily on the task manager, I clear my open windows and under the "RAM" tab I clear memory. Probably once an hour.
-Auto brightness.
-I never partially charge. I let my battery go all the way down to 1% then I charge it to 100%. Always.
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-Clearing the ram too much actually drains the battery more because certain apps will have to auto start again every time you clear memory
-Keeping it at around 0-30% all the time should save you more.(I can still see my screen during the day at 30%)
-That doesn't do anything.

josh995 said:
-When I am going to bed, I put my phone in airplane mode.
-I rely heavily on the task manager, I clear my open windows and under the "RAM" tab I clear memory. Probably once an hour.
-Auto brightness.
-I never partially charge. I let my battery go all the way down to 1% then I charge it to 100%. Always.
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-Are there no A/C outlets in your bedroom?
-What the previous guy said, this is a stupid thing to do. Java was designed around efficient use of resources, and restarting running apps (which would happen, unless you have them removed entirely) would use more processing power than you had saved by not having the tasks running in the first place.
-Using Auto is causing the system to periodically poll the light sensor, draining more battery than used otherwise.
-This is how you kill Li-Ion batteries (one way, at least). The whole spiel about discharging fully, THEN charging fully or the battery will have some sort of "memory" of capacity less than actual capacity is how Ni-Cad rechargables work, not Li-Ions. Li-Ion batteries are the opposite. For superior life, keep them topped up as much as possible. FYI
I hope THIS helped, more than a little.

There are plenty of outlets in my room. Lol I just don't need to use them that often as you can see also I hate getting calls and messages in the middle of the night but I use my phone as an alarm sometimes so airplane mode just seems convenient.
This is just what I do. I mean, some of the things I do may not help at all. But this is what I do with Android phones and I've always gotten really good battery life. I've always, always gone down to 1% then charged up to 100% and I've never had a battery go bad on me. Then again I only ever keep a phone for 1 year. I do know that these batteries don't have the memory problem, I just can't bring myself to not fully discharge or charge. I have mild OCD, for real. Little things like that brother me
I'll play with backlighting to see what that does for me.
I've gotta be doing something right. Idk about the task manager, I've just always liked not having programs running if I don't need them to be. I know they arent "running" but it just gives me peace of mind, I guess.
Thanks for the recommendations I will try them.
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josh995 said:
There are plenty of outlets in my room. Lol I just don't need to use them that often as you can see also I hate getting calls and messages in the middle of the night but I use my phone as an alarm sometimes so airplane mode just seems convenient.
This is just what I do. I mean, some of the things I do may not help at all. But this is what I do with Android phones and I've always gotten really good battery life. I've always, always gone down to 1% then charged up to 100% and I've never had a battery go bad on me. Then again I only ever keep a phone for 1 year.
I'll play with backlighting to see what that does for me.
I've gotta be doing something right. Idk about the task manager, I've just always liked not having programs running if I don't need them to be. I know they arent "running" but it just gives me peace of mind, I guess.
Thanks for the recommendations I will try them.
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You getting really good battery life =/= you getting the best battery life possible.
I have pushed ~2 days of battery life without charging many times on my GS3 (with all the bells and whistles running, just mobile data turned off when i'm not commuting), i just don't have a reliable measurement because:
1. I'm flashing mods/roms/kernels/whatever multiple times per week, and
2. I usually charge my phone when it's convenient, which is fairly often.

charlieg90 said:
You getting really good battery life =/= you getting the best battery life possible.
I have pushed ~2 days of battery life without charging many times on my GS3 (with all the bells and whistles running, just mobile data turned off when i'm not commuting), i just don't have a reliable measurement because:
1. I'm flashing mods/roms/kernels/whatever multiple times per week, and
2. I usually charge my phone when it's convenient, which is fairly often.
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I stopped flashing because of my OCD. I mean, I'm not crazy but it causes perfection issues and all the ROMs I was flashing had glitches here and there and Idk if you've known anyone with OCD but with the perfection issue, those glitches were all I could think about. So there went flashing. Lol.
Also comes into play with the charging thing. You seem knowledgeable in what you said but even though you said keeping it topped up is best, in my mind, that's destroying my battery. Lol. I really do appreciate your info though.
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josh995 said:
my OCD
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I'm glad you said it, so that I didn't have to. :silly:
I read your post and the first thing that came to mind was, "there is medication for that, you know.":laugh:

Here's my .02. My battery never lasts that long. Not even close. I'd feel disappointed if it did. I bought my gsiii with the intent of gobbling up unlimited data and using the oc'd processor to run apps till the phone is so hot I have to set it down. I've burned up almost 6gigs of data since the 7th. I get around 4 hours of screen on time most generally. I also throw it on a charger whenever I have the chance. My battery rarely dips below 50%. Like others have said, full discharge cycles are for ni-cad batteries. Li-ion doesn't benefit. Good battery life for me is the lg flip phone we have on a diff line that lasts a couple weeks.
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josh995 said:
I stopped flashing because of my OCD. I mean, I'm not crazy but it causes perfection issues and all the ROMs I was flashing had glitches here and there and Idk if you've known anyone with OCD but with the perfection issue, those glitches were all I could think about. So there went flashing. Lol.
Also comes into play with the charging thing. You seem knowledgeable in what you said but even though you said keeping it topped up is best, in my mind, that's destroying my battery. Lol. I really do appreciate your info though.
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Okay, okay, as long as you admit it... I'll stop being a snarky jerk. I'm totally the same way though. Perfectionist to the core.

It's a very bad idea to let the battery go down to 1% regularly, lithium batteries should be charged more often for better life and more cycles

Sorry but I still just don't believe 7 hours of screen on time. 4 is above average even amazing screen on time for this phone and stock battery. I suppose there is the possibility of using 0 percent brightness, or even lux brightness or something similar to get the brightness even lower.
You said you use auto brightness, I'm sorry I just don't buy it.
People with the extended batteries are getting 7 hours of screen on time not stock batteries.
7 hours of screen on time is literally double almost every other phone on the market with stock batteries. I really fail to see how having minimum usage and a high performing rom will get you double screen on time.
Edit: with that said, in my current situation I will never have wifi access plus I tether a lot so I really have yet to personally see screen on time since I rooted. Before root and stock I got about 3.5 of screen on time.
Not trying to be a douche or anything just very curious about how 7 hours comes about.
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bond32 said:
Sorry but I still just don't believe 7 hours of screen on time. 4 is above average even amazing screen on time for this phone and stock battery. I suppose there is the possibility of using 0 percent brightness, or even lux brightness or something similar to get the brightness even lower.
You said you use auto brightness, I'm sorry I just don't buy it.
People with the extended batteries are getting 7 hours of screen on time not stock batteries.
7 hours of screen on time is literally double almost every other phone on the market with stock batteries. I really fail to see how having minimum usage and a high performing rom will get you double screen on time.
Edit: with that said, in my current situation I will never have wifi access plus I tether a lot so I really have yet to personally see screen on time since I rooted. Before root and stock I got about 3.5 of screen on time.
Not trying to be a douche or anything just very curious about how 7 hours comes about.
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you dont get 7 hours because you are not doing what op did for perfection, and you just like other "4 hour" guys in this thread. I can confirm 7 hours usage is totally possible and what left can support one day idle time when you turn off data etc. Iusually dont do that because I like my phone work at full functionality, but I also like tinkering around to keep maximum use of juice, by eliminating wake locks and autostart.
killing background helps sometimes because some stupid apps keeping using cpu after backgrounded. op go and get a iphone, its perfect for OCD since it can get zero unwanted background activity, amazing idle time and stable usage with relatively easier configuration and tweaking.
1% is NO. 1 battery killer, heat is NO. 2, top up at 100% is NO. 3. Li based battery is at best 40%. but plaese its just a phone, charge and use anytime you want. phone outdated way earlier than battery.
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generalmilk said:
you dont get 7 hours because you are not doing what op did for perfection, and you just like other "4 hour" guys in this thread. I can confirm 7 hours usage is totally possible and what left can support one day idle time when you turn off data etc. Iusually dont do that because I like my phone work at full functionality, but I also like tinkering around to keep maximum use of juice, by eliminating wake locks and autostart.
killing background helps sometimes because some stupid apps keeping using cpu after backgrounded. op go and get a iphone, its perfect for OCD since it can get zero unwanted background activity, amazing idle time and stable usage with relatively easier configuration and tweaking.
1% is NO. 1 battery killer, heat is NO. 2, top up at 100% is NO. 3. Li based battery is at best 40%. but plaese its just a phone, charge and use anytime you want. phone outdated way earlier than battery.
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While I understand what you're saying I think you misread my post. I was strickly referring to the screen on time which 7 hours of screen on time with stock battery is inconceivable. 4 is about the most you would normally see.
7 hours of USAGE is common.
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Well I mean. You don't have to believe me. I mean I have nothing to offer but my word. I do use auto brightness. But because of the suggestion I'll probably set it to manual and see what that does.
I got 7 hours screen on time with the stock battery. The battery says "3.8 v li-ion battery"
I've gotten more than this is the past but I've also gotten less.
Like I said you don't have to believe me but... I'm using the stock battery.
And to the poster who mentioned to get an iPhone - I have one for my business line
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battery statistics are poor statistics in general. there are too many variables. luckily we have removeable batteries if we need mroe juice.
heres some postings to add to the mix
put my phone through the paces with fantasy football.
held up pretty well. stock battery mind you. on pace for nearly 8 hrs of on screen time. This isnt with typical use though... With typical use I can get 20hrs and 5-6 hrs of screen time. I thought anywhere from 4-6 hours of on screen time was what people were suppposed to be getting.

Yeah we all use our phone differently. I rarely actually talk on the phone with my GS3 because I use my iPhone for that. But everything else I do on my GS3, reading news, some browsing, xda.
I just thought I'd share what I do for people that may want to get better battery life.
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bond32 said:
While I understand what you're saying I think you misread my post. I was strickly referring to the screen on time which 7 hours of screen on time with stock battery is inconceivable. 4 is about the most you would normally see.
7 hours of USAGE is common.
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Then I shouldn't use the word "usage". I meant 7 hours screen on time. Sometimes I got 8 or more, but only use it continuously after charging, no idle time.
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josh995 said:
Yeah we all use our phone differently. I rarely actually talk on the phone with my GS3 because I use my iPhone for that. But everything else I do on my GS3, reading news, some browsing, xda.
I just thought I'd share what I do for people that may want to get better battery life.
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Yet that involves turning off data. IMO the smartphone should always stay online. In my experience, iPhone can get constant -4 ~ -5ma juice flow during idle even with data (2G) and all the push notifications on, which are the only things I want for stay online. I feel its hard to get similar result on my GS3 though.

generalmilk said:
Yet that involves turning off data. IMO the smartphone should always stay online. In my experience, iPhone can get constant -4 ~ -5ma juice flow during idle even with data (2G) and all the push notifications on, which are the only things I want for stay online. I feel its hard to get similar result on my GS3 though.
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I'm always online, whether it's wi-fi or 4G. Luckily I have wi-fi at home and at work.
Like, literally as I'm walking out the door of my house, I turn on my mobile data, and when I get to work I turn it off. When I'm leaving work I turn mobile data back on and when I get home I turn it off.

josh995 said:
I'm always online, whether it's wi-fi or 4G. Luckily I have wi-fi at home and at work.
Like, literally as I'm walking out the door of my house, I turn on my mobile data, and when I get to work I turn it off. When I'm leaving work I turn mobile data back on and when I get home I turn it off.
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what you did is pointless. If you leave data on, data is not connected when wifi is connected, and it will connect automatically when no wifi connection.

generalmilk said:
what you did is pointless. If you leave data on, data is not connected when wifi is connected, and it will connect automatically when no wifi connection.
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It's not pointless to me. As I said a few posts before... I have OCD, obsessive compulsive disorder. Things like this affect me. I know that being connected to Wi-Fi that data is not connected, but in my brain, it's as if something is telling me that because my data toggle is on, it's running.
I really can't help it.
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