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I have a g2x that has absolutely horrid battery life when using WXCDMA. When using it on the go, I sometimes loose like 1% life per minute or so, getting quite warm in the process. Also, when these monsterous drains occur, it continues killing the battery while sleep.
When on wifi, the life is great. I have already tried all of the various fixes, but I haven't run across anything that would stop the wcdma modem from sucking so much power.
I'm wondering if reflashing the baseband would work? Is that file even available? Input is greatly appreciated, cause I am envious of people that can make it a full day on a charge....
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greengoldmello said:
I have a g2x that has absolutely horrid battery life when using WXCDMA. When using it on the go, I sometimes loose like 1% life per minute or so, getting quite warm in the process. Also, when these monsterous drains occur, it continues killing the battery while sleep.
When on wifi, the life is great. I have already tried all of the various fixes, but I haven't run across anything that would stop the wcdma modem from sucking so much power.
I'm wondering if reflashing the baseband would work? Is that file even available? Input is greatly appreciated, cause I am envious of people that can make it a full day on a charge....
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not possible as far as i know... just try a factory reset, that is your best bet
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not possible as far as i know... just try a factory reset, that is your best bet
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Been there, done that. Flashed multiple roms also. Same issue
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have you tried getting a new sim card?
greengoldmello said:
Been there, done that. Flashed multiple roms also. Same issue
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"Flashed multiple roms" isn't helpful. Which roms did you flash? Have you tried CM7 or one based on CM?
Have you monitored your battery usage to figure out which apps are eating up your battery?
Do you turn GPS/bluetooth/wifi off when not in use?
Replaced battery (seems to help people who have over heating issues)?
The most common causes of the battery drain/overheating is a rouge app and/or just a bad battery. My battery never even gets warm. I've noticed that even after long periods of gaming or internet surfing that the phone is relatively cool, so it seems you definitely have a problem there. Finding that problem is key.
Before you jump the gun, my SETTINGS>ABOUT PHONE>BATTERY USE:
Cell Standby = 58%
Phone idle = 42%
Display = 2%
I don't know why that equals 102% but just roll with it. A good battery monitor app will tell you which specific application is eating battery. I don't use those as I don't have a need to since I don't have a problem, but check those out and report back.
player911 said:
"Flashed multiple roms" isn't helpful. Which roms did you flash? Have you tried CM7 or one based on CM?
Have you monitored your battery usage to figure out which apps are eating up your battery?
Do you turn GPS/bluetooth/wifi off when not in use?
Replaced battery (seems to help people who have over heating issues)?
The most common causes of the battery drain/overheating is a rouge app and/or just a bad battery. My battery never even gets warm. I've noticed that even after long periods of gaming or internet surfing that the phone is relatively cool, so it seems you definitely have a problem there. Finding that problem is key.
Before you jump the gun, my SETTINGS>ABOUT PHONE>BATTERY USE:
Cell Standby = 58%
Phone idle = 42%
Display = 2%
I don't know why that equals 102% but just roll with it. A good battery monitor app will tell you which specific application is eating battery. I don't use those as I don't have a need to since I don't have a problem, but check those out and report back.
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I have a brand new sim card.
Yes I have tried cm 7
I haven't tried a new battery simply because its not the battery that gets really hot, its the phone, specifically the area around the camera lens.
Also it doesn't do this while on wifi.
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I think the processor is around the camera lens. I tried flashing a rom that would simply not boot. It would go from the LG screen to a black screen and hang. That is the only time my phone has been warm around the camera lens.
So try to figure out what is taxing your processor and stop it. What rom are you running? You still haven't provided enough details. What about a battery monitor? What apps do you have installed?
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I think the processor is around the camera lens. I tried flashing a rom that would simply not boot. It would go from the LG screen to a black screen and hang. That is the only time my phone has been warm around the camera lens.
So try to figure out what is taxing your processor and stop it. What rom are you running? You still haven't provided enough details. What about a battery monitor? What apps do you have installed?
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Nothing was taxing the processor. This has happened on the stock rom with no added apps. Surfing the internet is what made it warm. I used an app called watchdog to see the cpu usage and nothing even went above 40%
There are a lot of battery threads out there, but i wanted to try something new. I want to see how much our phones drain in real world situations. So here are the rules:
1. Use your phone normally for ten minutes.
2. Note your battery percent at the beginning and then at the end.
3. Post details about what you did, what ROM you're using, and the percent battery drain.
Hopefully we can compare our experiences and learn something.
I used my phone to surf a few websites, send one text, and use xda app. Started at 80% and ended at 77%. Using rcmix3d at 50% brightness.
I know there are tons of factors that affect battery drain, and I'm not trying to be scientific. I'm just curious how we all compare!
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The only way you will get a decent idea is to test with others in your area as it will depend alot in signal strength. I would use more battery if I was bouncing between signals instead of having a steady connection.
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There are a lot of battery threads out there, but i wanted to try something new. I want to see how much our phones drain in real world situations. So here are the rules:
1. Use your phone normally for ten minutes.
2. Note your battery percent at the beginning and then at the end.
3. Post details about what you did, what ROM you're using, and the percent battery drain.
Hopefully we can compare our experiences and learn something.
I used my phone to surf a few websites, send one text, and use xda app. Started at 80% and ended at 77%. Using rcmix3d at 50% brightness.
I know there are tons of factors that affect battery drain, and I'm not trying to be scientific. I'm just curious how we all compare!
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Screen-on time is the only thing I ever look at. I've only managed to squeeze about 5h45m, out the sense-based gb ROM I've been using.
The phone does really well in standby on most if not all roms that have been flashed properly, don't have non-rom-related battery hogging app issues, and, as zelendel mentioned, signal issues.
It's this big fat screen that's obviously the biggest battery sucker.
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Screen-on time is the only thing I ever look at. I've only managed to squeeze about 5h45m, out the sense-based gb ROM I've been using.
The phone does really well in standby on most if not all roms that have been flashed properly, don't have non-rom-related battery hogging app issues, and, as zelendel mentioned, signal issues.
It's this big fat screen that's obviously the biggest battery sucker.
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My phone does great in standby as well, but seems to die quick when I'm actually using it. I've never had an issue with the phone dying on me though as I recharge every night. I think i had a little better battery life on miui than I'm getting now.
I know there are many many factors that go into battery performance, I'm just curious what other people actually get when using their phones.
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My phone does great in standby as well, but seems to die quick when I'm actually using it. I've never had an issue with the phone dying on me though as I recharge every night. I think i had a little better battery life on miui than I'm getting now.
I know there are many many factors that go into battery performance, I'm just curious what other people actually get when using their phones.
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I've gotten accustomed to putting my phone on the charger before bed as well. Mine pretty much will last the entire day... Off charger at ~8-9am, back on it at ~12am.
Averaging about 5 hrs screen on time with usually no voice calls of significant length, WiFi on, gps off, relatively stable signal.
I'm running Inspired Ace 1.0.1, and the 04.11_M2 radio. Seems I was getting a little better with the OTA radio, but signal fluctuated a lot more on that one, than with the 04.11_M2.
Edit: doesn't really use your testing procedure, just more of a general feeling, as there's so many other contributing factors...
10 minutes of on-line gaming (storm8 games) = 10% drain
WiFi off, gps off, mobile data on, screen brightness on auto, stock rom
zuriken said:
10 minutes of on-line gaming (storm8 games) = 10% drain
WiFi off, gps off, mobile data on, screen brightness on auto, stock rom
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Holly crap that's a heavy drain. I couldn't possibly use this phone with that type.of battery drain. Thanks to our great dews I managed a little over 7h screen on time. Could only accomplish that by reducing the screen brightness and UC to 768mhz. Stick speed and auto brightness I get about 6-6 1/2 screen on.
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My battery will drain about 5% if I even just leave it sitting for ten minutes... I JUST rooted my Inspire and flashed the RCMix3D ROM, and it almost seems worse. Have background data, auto sync, wifi, gps, bluetooth, all that stuff shut off, too. I love this rom, but really want to find one that improves battery life!
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My battery will drain about 5% if I even just leave it sitting for ten minutes... I JUST rooted my Inspire and flashed the RCMix3D ROM, and it almost seems worse. Have background data, auto sync, wifi, gps, bluetooth, all that stuff shut off, too. I love this rom, but really want to find one that improves battery life!
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You probably got a bad flash, or have something else running, as I mentioned in your recent thread.
Did you full wipe prior to flashing?
Try out gingerbeast, if you still have battery issues with that, after properly wiping prior to flashing of course, then it's hardware, as that ROM has produced some record-breaking battery life performance.
Mine has twice decided to randomly have days where it just drains like crazy. The battery is a lot warmer and just dies out in like 6 hours with very minimal usage. the majority of the time my battery is great but the last 2 days and then about a month ago it did this. No reason for it either, I have made no changes on my device.
Anybody seen this?
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You probably got a bad flash, or have something else running, as I mentioned in your recent thread.
Did you full wipe prior to flashing?
Try out gingerbeast, if you still have battery issues with that, after properly wiping prior to flashing of course, then it's hardware, as that ROM has produced some record-breaking battery life performance.
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Yeah I did a full wipe before flashing. I'll be sure and try that out tomorrow, I really hope it helps. If the issue is hardware, should I contact HTC? After I believe you said my phone should still be under warranty, I called them, and indeed it is. The rep I had before must have been new or something. Thanks
From a full charge, on TPGB with wifi, gps, and sync on, and everything refreshed 3-4hrs, I lasted about 8 hours. I was using super accurate gps for 20 minute intervals or so, but it lasted the day I'd say. Some occasional web browsing.
Lucky for me my head unit on my car has a usb port. For this whole trip I left it off though.
Maybe this is due to my lack of experience, but maybe not. It seems like every time I put a new ROM on my phone it goes to hell in about a month. I'm not a technician but I can follow directions for installation, patches, etc. So far I have had 0 long term success in installing a ROM that ends up being any better than stock after 30-60 days.
For example, I've had issues with battery drain, random booting while the phone is powered off, redraw issues, serious lag, data connectivity issues, and a few other things. It seems like its always something.
The only phones I've toyed with are my old Eris and my Charge. Is this a phone issue, noob issue, or is this par for the course? If it is par I'll end up back at stock and have mediocre performance rather than have a buzz saw that ends up needing constant tweaking and maintenance.
Btw this isn't a knock on developers. I appreciate them sharing all their hard work. I just want to know if everybody else goes through this or am I holding a bag of stupid.
Just rooting does nothing more than give you superuser access. It doesn't even do anything that uses the root specifically. Different roms do different things, but nothing to use battery...mostly they take things out rather than put things in.
Best thing to do is look at BetterBatteryStats and track partial wakelocks. That will tell you what is waking up your system and if there's anything spiking it, you can deal with it. Most of what really drains battery on this phone, other than bad apps, is somewhat random, and it will affect non-rooted phones just as much as rooted.
Must be something you did, picking a good rom make a big different. In my case. I flashed tweakstock to my daughter's phone since the first day it released (with tweakstock kernel), and never, I repeat never have any issue, when tweakstock 1.4 released, this is the second time I touch her phone and up until now she hasn't have any issue. If you use eclipse rom, PBJ kernel, Imonsey kernel, you're going to have issue. They are not bad roms or kernels, but they do have bugs. This is my experience.
Yeah, I think it's you. On stock, I'll be lucky to get 12 hours usage in a low signal environment. On a custom ROM, with custom kernel, I'll make it through the day. Of course, I've had a couple of random total crashes where I had to go at it again, but I deal with it.
PROTIP: the Facebook app needs to be told to stfu constantly. I would get an app like System so you can kill it easily-it still stays in RAM and in wakelock, taking clock cycles, even if you close it by backing out. I found that this was one of the best battery savers.
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Yeah, I think it's you. On stock, I'll be lucky to get 12 hours usage in a low signal environment. On a custom ROM, with custom kernel, I'll make it through the day. Of course, I've had a couple of random total crashes where I had to go at it again, but I deal with it.
PROTIP: the Facebook app needs to be told to stfu constantly. I would get an app like System so you can kill it easily-it still stays in RAM and in wakelock, taking clock cycles, even if you close it by backing out. I found that this was one of the best battery savers.
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Yes, I agreed with kvswim, Facebook is a big battery drainer, I ended up using the browser for facebook, it's not as nice as the FB app, but once you get a hang of it. It's fine. I suggest if you want trouble free, ODIN pit file and original factory image, then upgrade to tweakstock with tweakstock kernel, then install Go launcher for smoothness. To save battery even more install battery saver by Antutu.(keep all default settings, don't play with it). You will see big improvement with both battery and smooth trouble free phone.
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Yes, I agreed with kvswim, Facebook is a big battery drainer, I ended up using the browser for facebook, it's not as nice as the FB app, but once you get a hang of it. It's fine. I suggest if you want trouble free, ODIN pit file and original factory image, then upgrade to tweakstock with tweakstock kernel, then install Go launcher for smoothness. To save battery even more install battery saver by Antutu.(keep all default settings, don't play with it). You will see big improvement with both battery and smooth trouble free phone.
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you really find a battery saver to be helpful. Every time i try one it ends up costing me more battery life than it saves.
As for the phone issues. Are you wiping data, cache, and dalvik before you flash? Not doing so can really muck things up. And a lot of times its just an annoying app that sucks up all ur juice, ie words with friends and facebook. I use them alot so I deal, but u can definitely tell the difference when u dont have those apps installed.
No i dont think its u...i have problems also.i jus made a post about my home/hard key...its always seems to b something after the next.but it looks like people find ways to deal and eventually conquer.also i appreciate wat the developers do.its alot of work and headaches.on top of posting and replying to many many people.its the roms that cause problems...constant tweaking and toying around...alot of times things jus need to b debugged a little it seems.but its all in the nature of what were all doing here.good luck to u
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you really find a battery saver to be helpful. Every time i try one it ends up costing me more battery life than it saves.
As for the phone issues. Are you wiping data, cache, and dalvik before you flash? Not doing so can really muck things up. And a lot of times its just an annoying app that sucks up all ur juice, ie words with friends and facebook. I use them alot so I deal, but u can definitely tell the difference when u dont have those apps installed.
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Hey. how about give the "battery saver" app by Antutu a try. This is one of the kind. It does not kill processes like others. It actually readjust cpu frequency during usage and put your phone in heavy deep sleep, after installed, let it run for 2 days, you will notice at least 3-4 hrs more during usage and 10+ if you let your phone sleep. I have test this app with wifi,4g,gps on 24/7 and I still have good battery life.
I downloaded betterbatterysaver to check my stats. Now to figure out how to read the data. Any suggestions? I've searched Google and it seems to be a mystery for many. It appears that Dolphin HD is using most, but I kill the program when I'm done???? I switched to mini and froze HD to troubleshooting. I only use FB browser too. I ditched the app long time ago.
Before I flash I wipe dalvik cache, data, and then wipe it again. I follow directions closely since I can't figure my way out if something goes wrong. I'm running tweakstock's latest right now and I'm really enjoying it. Very stable and snappy. However, the battery problem is killing the experience. It drained fro. 69% to dead in 6 hours overnight! Switched from 1.1 because the phone got very laggy and the hand off between 3-4g was getting dropped and I was losing data connection.
I will try the battery saver app. Just got battery calibrated and still not any better. My need to have a phone that doesn't suck will keep me playing with this thing until I get it right. My Charge is used so much it's like my third hand.
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I downloaded betterbatterysaver to check my stats. Now to figure out how to read the data. Any suggestions? I've searched Google and it seems to be a mystery for many. It appears that Dolphin HD is using most, but I kill the program when I'm done???? I switched to mini and froze HD to troubleshooting. I only use FB browser too. I ditched the app long time ago.
Before I flash I wipe dalvik cache, data, and then wipe it again. I follow directions closely since I can't figure my way out if something goes wrong. I'm running tweakstock's latest right now and I'm really enjoying it. Very stable and snappy. However, the battery problem is killing the experience. It drained fro. 69% to dead in 6 hours overnight! Switched from 1.1 because the phone got very laggy and the hand off between 3-4g was getting dropped and I was losing data connection.
I will try the battery saver app. Just got battery calibrated and still not any better. My need to have a phone that doesn't suck will keep me playing with this thing until I get it right. My Charge is used so much it's like my third hand.
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Did you try to disable(freeze) SDM app and also Google service? May need to backup all your apps and do a factory/data reset, If not help, possible to re ODIN factory image (see pos # 5) since you have data drop issue. Some thing is mess up in your OS.
For betterbatterystats look at wakelock and see what process used the most.
If it died overnight then something is definitely eating your battery. Are you in a low signal environment? Go to settings, about phone, then battery usage. If anything besides display is taking more than around 5-10% (can be more if you use it a lot) then that's your main problem. If your cell standby is more than 25% it's the low signal that's killing the battery.
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Data is up and running smooth after flashing newest tweakstock. My home has a strong signal and my bedroom is sometimes 4G so I don't believe the signal was low, unless the transition between radios killed it. However, it wasn't a problem 3 weeks ago.
I did freeze SDM and noticed some improvement. Buhohitr, did you mean freeze Google services framework?
Battery usage seems to be normal for now. I am noticing Dolphin is no Singer sucking down 35% or more since I switched to Mini. It doesn't even show up on the list.
I'll see how it goes today and report back on wakelocks. If it doesn't get any Beyer ima Odin to stock and root/flash tweakstock again.
Also, the battery doesn't drain unusually fast wile in use, browsing, music, etc. But when it sits it drains at 3-4% an hour.
I would try manually calibrating your battery. It really worked for me. On average I get about 18-19 hours on one charge with medium to heavy data usage throughout the day. There is a thread in the General section.. I'll post a link in a little bit.
EDIT: Here is the link. It's a stickie but I figured I'd save you a little extra time. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1187698
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I would try manually calibrating your battery. It really worked for me. On average I get about 18-19 hours on one charge with medium to heavy data usage throughout the day. There is a thread in the General section.. I'll post a link in a little bit.
EDIT: Here is the link. It's a stickie but I figured I'd save you a little extra time. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1187698
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Wiping battery stats is a complete placebo. All the battery stats stores is the state of apps as related to various things that affect battery life (like display on time, screen brightness over time, and wakelock states). It does nothing that will actually affect your battery life one iota. It is actually cleared every time you charge your battery to 100%, so manually wiping it is completely pointless.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
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Wiping battery stats is a complete placebo. All the battery stats stores is the state of apps as related to various things that affect battery life (like display on time, screen brightness over time, and wakelock states). It does nothing that will actually affect your battery life one iota. It is actually cleared every time you charge your battery to 100%, so manually wiping it is completely pointless.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
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I'm well aware of the post of Dianne Hackborn debunking the myth of wiping the battery stats; however, if you actually read the post on the steps to calibrating your battery, it's not just wiping your battery stats. There's actually a few more steps involved. You're right though, if you just wipe the battery stats and expect better battery life you're just wasting your time.
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Data is up and running smooth after flashing newest tweakstock. My home has a strong signal and my bedroom is sometimes 4G so I don't believe the signal was low, unless the transition between radios killed it. However, it wasn't a problem 3 weeks ago.
I did freeze SDM and noticed some improvement. Buhohitr, did you mean freeze Google services framework?
Battery usage seems to be normal for now. I am noticing Dolphin is no Singer sucking down 35% or more since I switched to Mini. It doesn't even show up on the list.
I'll see how it goes today and report back on wakelocks. If it doesn't get any Beyer ima Odin to stock and root/flash tweakstock again.
Also, the battery doesn't drain unusually fast wile in use, browsing, music, etc. But when it sits it drains at 3-4% an hour.
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To disable Google Service, go to settings -> location&security and uncheck Google service. Do not freeze Google framework. Also seems like your phone is not in deep sleep, please install "battery saver" by Antutu and let it works for 24 hrs, you should see huge different when your phone is sleeping. BTW what kernel are you using? If you're using PBJ kernel you can install "CPU tuner" to further keep your phone in deep sleep. I'm talking about 1% for 3 hrs sleeping.
I'm curious as to what Battery Saver actually does. The app's market page doesn't say. I'd be curious if it would interfere with my IMAP push email or SetCPU's overclock settings.
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I'm well aware of the post of Dianne Hackborn debunking the myth of wiping the battery stats; however, if you actually read the post on the steps to calibrating your battery, it's not just wiping your battery stats. There's actually a few more steps involved. You're right though, if you just wipe the battery stats and expect better battery life you're just wasting your time.
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I've done that and never seen an actual difference. Like I said before, I have no reason to believe that any of it is anything other than placebo. My normal daily variability in use is more than enough to account for any perceived differences. On top of it all, bump charging is not good for a Li-Ion battery, so if anything, those instructions are a good example of how to lose long-term battery life for short term gain.
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I've done that and never seen an actual difference. Like I said before, I have no reason to believe that any of it is anything other than placebo. My normal daily variability in use is more than enough to account for any perceived differences. On top of it all, bump charging is not good for a Li-Ion battery, so if anything, those instructions are a good example of how to lose long-term battery life for short term gain.
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Personally, I believe that most of the time the procedure does nothing. I think there are times, though, that corrupt data gets into the battery stats. For instance, I had an app lock up my phone and force a hard boot. When the phone came back up, it showed 22% more battery than it had previously. I believe that bad data such as this can over time affect how Android reads your battery life. In that instance, I believe clearing battery stats would help. I don't think doing it just because a new ROM was flashed actually does anything, though.
My only concern when buying this phone was battery life compared to my Razr Maxx. I was expecting it to be shorter...... but not this much!
I have tried restarting and clearing cache+dalvik. It seems to keep happening.
Eesh that is definitely not normal. I have the Verizon GS3 and get far better battery life.
I would suggest a factory reset. That seems to work for some people. Otherwise I'd suggest getting a replacement.
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looks like something is waking up your phone like crazy when the screen is off...
I love these sort of posts. You obviously have a wake lock that is keeping your processor active when not in use. Download "BetterBatteryStats" from the market and check out your wake locks and partial wake locks. It will be petty obvious at that point. It's most likely a rouge app.
It isn't a systemic problem with the phone. I get around 20 hours with slightly more than moderate use.
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Schaweet said:
I love these sort of posts. You obviously have a wake lock that is keeping your processor active when not in use. Download "BetterBatteryStats" from the market and check out your wake locks and partial wake locks. It will be petty obvious at that point. It's most likely a rouge app.
It isn't a systemic problem with the phone. I get around 20 hours with slightly more than moderate use.
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can you elaborate more on this? i downloaded the program and I dont see anything irregular at all. when i go to "partial wake locks" i see audioout only taking up 2.4% TOTAL TIM, 7M51S and the next one being dropboxcpuolywakelock
next one being backup, so on and so forth, none above 2%....
I am experiencing the exact same battery life drain as the op...except i have the tmobile version
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can you elaborate more on this? i downloaded the program and I dont see anything irregular at all. when i go to "partial wake locks" i see audioout only taking up 2.4% TOTAL TIM, 7M51S and the next one being dropboxcpuolywakelock
next one being backup, so on and so forth, none above 2%....
I am experiencing the exact same battery life drain as the op...except i have the tmobile version
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I had the same issue the other night. Took it off the charger and fell asleep.... when I woke up over 1/4 of my battery was gone. Android System showed the same high percentage used. I went into apps, android system, force stopped it, rebooted.. Hasn't crept back up since.
From my understanding, under idle, android system should be in the 5-10% range.
I did a full system reboot, pulled battery and restarted - all better. Something was tripping my battery up as well. It's not the phone, somethings causing it.
Galaxy S3 - Locked...
Schaweet said:
I love these sort of posts. You obviously have a wake lock that is keeping your processor active when not in use. Download "BetterBatteryStats" from the market and check out your wake locks and partial wake locks. It will be petty obvious at that point. It's most likely a rouge app.
It isn't a systemic problem with the phone. I get around 20 hours with slightly more than moderate use.
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not sure how thats possible at all.. I have the t999 gs3 and other verizon users confirmed very similar battery life..... these phones get around 2.5 hours screen on time.... soo to actually get 20 hours of use, MOST of that time has to be with the screen off.. i dont see how moderate usage would yield 20 hours.... ide LOVE to get 20 hoursss
Topher227 said:
My only concern when buying this phone was battery life compared to my Razr Maxx. I was expecting it to be shorter...... but not this much!
I have tried restarting and clearing cache+dalvik. It seems to keep happening.
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Your phone never sleeps. I would do a factory reset.
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not sure how thats possible at all.. I have the t999 gs3 and other verizon users confirmed very similar battery life..... these phones get around 2.5 hours screen on time.... soo to actually get 20 hours of use, MOST of that time has to be with the screen off.. i dont see how moderate usage would yield 20 hours.... ide LOVE to get 20 hoursss
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that's what i get, with 2-2.5 hours of screen time. no lte for me though.
I have Verizon GS3 and battery life is great. I too had an issue with battery drainning fast on my GS3 but found out it was Enhanced Mail Apps that I was using that killed my Battery so I uninstalled it. After the uninstall, my battery life has been great. You really can't compare battery life between Mot Raze and GS3. GS3 is far superior.
There must be an apps that is draining your battery.
Here is my battery stats. This is with moderate use.
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That is far from normal.
100% LTE. Moderate with periods of heavy use. I would run a few cycles to see if your battery performance improves. Also, as other users have stated, keep running BetterBatteryStats for a few days and it will keep catching the wakelocks you're getting. If you still can't figure out the problem, I would seek a replacement battery from Verizon just to be sure.
Edit: Forgot to mention this before. If you haven't yet, plug your phone in and charge the battery to 100% with the phone powered down completely. Then let it run all the way down before charging it again. Doing this once effectively "trains" the battery to better read its full capacity and won't hurt the overall life of the battery. This is something that I find is often missed with new batteries, but I have had great results with.
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Thanks for the replies... i did a factory reset and did not use Titanium to restore the apps in case one of them was causing the drain.
I'm still getting random drains by "gsiff_daemon" (which i'm seeing others having issues with this too). Fortunately this drain is fixed by a simple reboot. Yesterday I was able to get just under 15 hours of what i'd call light'ish use (under an hour of cached Spotify, WiFi all day, 10 minutes of phone calls, 30 SMS) and was at about 5%. Keep in mind I had about an hour in there where good 'ol gsiff was suckin down the battery (It took about 20% in 45 minutes).
The final test for me is this weekend. If it can last a whole day with my moderate/heavy usage.... i'm keeping it. Otherwise, its back to the Maxx.
This doesn't address the root cause of something preventing the phone from sleeping, but I thought I would mention an app that helps extend battery life. Personally I get great battery life regardless of any "saver" apps, and have never gotten less than 12 hours on a full charge, and that was very heavy use. I probably average closer to 20 on moderate-heavy use.
Anyway, as some know there are apps that will automatically turn off your data connection while the screen is off. Most turn the connection on for 1 minute, every 15 minutes while the screen is off so that you still receive email, ect... This does not affect phone calls and text messages, as they do not use apn and would be received immediately. These products can significantly extend battery life with little complication, particularly if you stay connected to LTE all the time. As an example, overnight I might lose about 20% of my battery or more while sleeping. With one of these apps I lose only about 4-6%.
I personally like the BatteryDefender app, very simple to use, and very reliable.
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Coming from the HTC Thunderbolt, the Sammy GS3 is a nice change as far as battery life!
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Did you have your phone on Airplane Mode or something for half the day?
This is a little bit of a boast, I guess you could say... but also educational in a way.
This is my most recent battery life. I found that when I posted my screenshots, people think they are faked in some way. (Posted it here and other GS3 forums) They are not. I am using the stock battery my phone came with. NOT an extended battery. And you can see from the battery graph that the phone was not charged. I guess this is to show that you can use your phone heavily, and still get amazing battery life.
I am using the stock jellybean leak. Not rooted or unlocked.
This is everything I have done to get good battery life.
-I turned the LED touch lights off (I don't like them, they're so bright)
-I have all vibrations off. My phone does not ever vibrate.
-I have power save on.
-I have S-Voice "wake command" off.
-I have motion control disabled.
-I am almost always on wifi (work & home)
-When I am on wifi, I turn mobile data off.
-When I am going to bed, I put my phone in airplane mode.
-I rely heavily on the task manager, I clear my open windows and under the "RAM" tab I clear memory. Probably once an hour.
-I have my sync OFF. I check my email manually.
-Auto brightness.
-I never partially charge. I let my battery go all the way down to 1% then I charge it to 100%. Always.
-Always have a dark background, if possible.
Thats everything. Mind you, I didn't make or receive any phone calls on this cycle. But I did use my phone, as you can see I didn't just let it sit around. Device idle was like 3%?
Anyone else a "hypermiler" like me? I don't get this much screen time every time, it ranges from 5-7. I've gotten more than this and I've gotten less.
Hope this can help even if it's only a little.
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-I rely heavily on the task manager, I clear my open windows and under the "RAM" tab I clear memory. Probably once an hour.
-Auto brightness.
-I never partially charge. I let my battery go all the way down to 1% then I charge it to 100%. Always.
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-Clearing the ram too much actually drains the battery more because certain apps will have to auto start again every time you clear memory
-Keeping it at around 0-30% all the time should save you more.(I can still see my screen during the day at 30%)
-That doesn't do anything.
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-When I am going to bed, I put my phone in airplane mode.
-I rely heavily on the task manager, I clear my open windows and under the "RAM" tab I clear memory. Probably once an hour.
-Auto brightness.
-I never partially charge. I let my battery go all the way down to 1% then I charge it to 100%. Always.
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-Are there no A/C outlets in your bedroom?
-What the previous guy said, this is a stupid thing to do. Java was designed around efficient use of resources, and restarting running apps (which would happen, unless you have them removed entirely) would use more processing power than you had saved by not having the tasks running in the first place.
-Using Auto is causing the system to periodically poll the light sensor, draining more battery than used otherwise.
-This is how you kill Li-Ion batteries (one way, at least). The whole spiel about discharging fully, THEN charging fully or the battery will have some sort of "memory" of capacity less than actual capacity is how Ni-Cad rechargables work, not Li-Ions. Li-Ion batteries are the opposite. For superior life, keep them topped up as much as possible. FYI
I hope THIS helped, more than a little.
There are plenty of outlets in my room. Lol I just don't need to use them that often as you can see also I hate getting calls and messages in the middle of the night but I use my phone as an alarm sometimes so airplane mode just seems convenient.
This is just what I do. I mean, some of the things I do may not help at all. But this is what I do with Android phones and I've always gotten really good battery life. I've always, always gone down to 1% then charged up to 100% and I've never had a battery go bad on me. Then again I only ever keep a phone for 1 year. I do know that these batteries don't have the memory problem, I just can't bring myself to not fully discharge or charge. I have mild OCD, for real. Little things like that brother me
I'll play with backlighting to see what that does for me.
I've gotta be doing something right. Idk about the task manager, I've just always liked not having programs running if I don't need them to be. I know they arent "running" but it just gives me peace of mind, I guess.
Thanks for the recommendations I will try them.
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There are plenty of outlets in my room. Lol I just don't need to use them that often as you can see also I hate getting calls and messages in the middle of the night but I use my phone as an alarm sometimes so airplane mode just seems convenient.
This is just what I do. I mean, some of the things I do may not help at all. But this is what I do with Android phones and I've always gotten really good battery life. I've always, always gone down to 1% then charged up to 100% and I've never had a battery go bad on me. Then again I only ever keep a phone for 1 year.
I'll play with backlighting to see what that does for me.
I've gotta be doing something right. Idk about the task manager, I've just always liked not having programs running if I don't need them to be. I know they arent "running" but it just gives me peace of mind, I guess.
Thanks for the recommendations I will try them.
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You getting really good battery life =/= you getting the best battery life possible.
I have pushed ~2 days of battery life without charging many times on my GS3 (with all the bells and whistles running, just mobile data turned off when i'm not commuting), i just don't have a reliable measurement because:
1. I'm flashing mods/roms/kernels/whatever multiple times per week, and
2. I usually charge my phone when it's convenient, which is fairly often.
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You getting really good battery life =/= you getting the best battery life possible.
I have pushed ~2 days of battery life without charging many times on my GS3 (with all the bells and whistles running, just mobile data turned off when i'm not commuting), i just don't have a reliable measurement because:
1. I'm flashing mods/roms/kernels/whatever multiple times per week, and
2. I usually charge my phone when it's convenient, which is fairly often.
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I stopped flashing because of my OCD. I mean, I'm not crazy but it causes perfection issues and all the ROMs I was flashing had glitches here and there and Idk if you've known anyone with OCD but with the perfection issue, those glitches were all I could think about. So there went flashing. Lol.
Also comes into play with the charging thing. You seem knowledgeable in what you said but even though you said keeping it topped up is best, in my mind, that's destroying my battery. Lol. I really do appreciate your info though.
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I'm glad you said it, so that I didn't have to. :silly:
I read your post and the first thing that came to mind was, "there is medication for that, you know.":laugh:
Here's my .02. My battery never lasts that long. Not even close. I'd feel disappointed if it did. I bought my gsiii with the intent of gobbling up unlimited data and using the oc'd processor to run apps till the phone is so hot I have to set it down. I've burned up almost 6gigs of data since the 7th. I get around 4 hours of screen on time most generally. I also throw it on a charger whenever I have the chance. My battery rarely dips below 50%. Like others have said, full discharge cycles are for ni-cad batteries. Li-ion doesn't benefit. Good battery life for me is the lg flip phone we have on a diff line that lasts a couple weeks.
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I stopped flashing because of my OCD. I mean, I'm not crazy but it causes perfection issues and all the ROMs I was flashing had glitches here and there and Idk if you've known anyone with OCD but with the perfection issue, those glitches were all I could think about. So there went flashing. Lol.
Also comes into play with the charging thing. You seem knowledgeable in what you said but even though you said keeping it topped up is best, in my mind, that's destroying my battery. Lol. I really do appreciate your info though.
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Okay, okay, as long as you admit it... I'll stop being a snarky jerk. I'm totally the same way though. Perfectionist to the core.
It's a very bad idea to let the battery go down to 1% regularly, lithium batteries should be charged more often for better life and more cycles
Sorry but I still just don't believe 7 hours of screen on time. 4 is above average even amazing screen on time for this phone and stock battery. I suppose there is the possibility of using 0 percent brightness, or even lux brightness or something similar to get the brightness even lower.
You said you use auto brightness, I'm sorry I just don't buy it.
People with the extended batteries are getting 7 hours of screen on time not stock batteries.
7 hours of screen on time is literally double almost every other phone on the market with stock batteries. I really fail to see how having minimum usage and a high performing rom will get you double screen on time.
Edit: with that said, in my current situation I will never have wifi access plus I tether a lot so I really have yet to personally see screen on time since I rooted. Before root and stock I got about 3.5 of screen on time.
Not trying to be a douche or anything just very curious about how 7 hours comes about.
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Sorry but I still just don't believe 7 hours of screen on time. 4 is above average even amazing screen on time for this phone and stock battery. I suppose there is the possibility of using 0 percent brightness, or even lux brightness or something similar to get the brightness even lower.
You said you use auto brightness, I'm sorry I just don't buy it.
People with the extended batteries are getting 7 hours of screen on time not stock batteries.
7 hours of screen on time is literally double almost every other phone on the market with stock batteries. I really fail to see how having minimum usage and a high performing rom will get you double screen on time.
Edit: with that said, in my current situation I will never have wifi access plus I tether a lot so I really have yet to personally see screen on time since I rooted. Before root and stock I got about 3.5 of screen on time.
Not trying to be a douche or anything just very curious about how 7 hours comes about.
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you dont get 7 hours because you are not doing what op did for perfection, and you just like other "4 hour" guys in this thread. I can confirm 7 hours usage is totally possible and what left can support one day idle time when you turn off data etc. Iusually dont do that because I like my phone work at full functionality, but I also like tinkering around to keep maximum use of juice, by eliminating wake locks and autostart.
killing background helps sometimes because some stupid apps keeping using cpu after backgrounded. op go and get a iphone, its perfect for OCD since it can get zero unwanted background activity, amazing idle time and stable usage with relatively easier configuration and tweaking.
1% is NO. 1 battery killer, heat is NO. 2, top up at 100% is NO. 3. Li based battery is at best 40%. but plaese its just a phone, charge and use anytime you want. phone outdated way earlier than battery.
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you dont get 7 hours because you are not doing what op did for perfection, and you just like other "4 hour" guys in this thread. I can confirm 7 hours usage is totally possible and what left can support one day idle time when you turn off data etc. Iusually dont do that because I like my phone work at full functionality, but I also like tinkering around to keep maximum use of juice, by eliminating wake locks and autostart.
killing background helps sometimes because some stupid apps keeping using cpu after backgrounded. op go and get a iphone, its perfect for OCD since it can get zero unwanted background activity, amazing idle time and stable usage with relatively easier configuration and tweaking.
1% is NO. 1 battery killer, heat is NO. 2, top up at 100% is NO. 3. Li based battery is at best 40%. but plaese its just a phone, charge and use anytime you want. phone outdated way earlier than battery.
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While I understand what you're saying I think you misread my post. I was strickly referring to the screen on time which 7 hours of screen on time with stock battery is inconceivable. 4 is about the most you would normally see.
7 hours of USAGE is common.
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Well I mean. You don't have to believe me. I mean I have nothing to offer but my word. I do use auto brightness. But because of the suggestion I'll probably set it to manual and see what that does.
I got 7 hours screen on time with the stock battery. The battery says "3.8 v li-ion battery"
I've gotten more than this is the past but I've also gotten less.
Like I said you don't have to believe me but... I'm using the stock battery.
And to the poster who mentioned to get an iPhone - I have one for my business line
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battery statistics are poor statistics in general. there are too many variables. luckily we have removeable batteries if we need mroe juice.
heres some postings to add to the mix
put my phone through the paces with fantasy football.
held up pretty well. stock battery mind you. on pace for nearly 8 hrs of on screen time. This isnt with typical use though... With typical use I can get 20hrs and 5-6 hrs of screen time. I thought anywhere from 4-6 hours of on screen time was what people were suppposed to be getting.
Yeah we all use our phone differently. I rarely actually talk on the phone with my GS3 because I use my iPhone for that. But everything else I do on my GS3, reading news, some browsing, xda.
I just thought I'd share what I do for people that may want to get better battery life.
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While I understand what you're saying I think you misread my post. I was strickly referring to the screen on time which 7 hours of screen on time with stock battery is inconceivable. 4 is about the most you would normally see.
7 hours of USAGE is common.
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Then I shouldn't use the word "usage". I meant 7 hours screen on time. Sometimes I got 8 or more, but only use it continuously after charging, no idle time.
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josh995 said:
Yeah we all use our phone differently. I rarely actually talk on the phone with my GS3 because I use my iPhone for that. But everything else I do on my GS3, reading news, some browsing, xda.
I just thought I'd share what I do for people that may want to get better battery life.
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Yet that involves turning off data. IMO the smartphone should always stay online. In my experience, iPhone can get constant -4 ~ -5ma juice flow during idle even with data (2G) and all the push notifications on, which are the only things I want for stay online. I feel its hard to get similar result on my GS3 though.
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Yet that involves turning off data. IMO the smartphone should always stay online. In my experience, iPhone can get constant -4 ~ -5ma juice flow during idle even with data (2G) and all the push notifications on, which are the only things I want for stay online. I feel its hard to get similar result on my GS3 though.
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I'm always online, whether it's wi-fi or 4G. Luckily I have wi-fi at home and at work.
Like, literally as I'm walking out the door of my house, I turn on my mobile data, and when I get to work I turn it off. When I'm leaving work I turn mobile data back on and when I get home I turn it off.
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I'm always online, whether it's wi-fi or 4G. Luckily I have wi-fi at home and at work.
Like, literally as I'm walking out the door of my house, I turn on my mobile data, and when I get to work I turn it off. When I'm leaving work I turn mobile data back on and when I get home I turn it off.
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what you did is pointless. If you leave data on, data is not connected when wifi is connected, and it will connect automatically when no wifi connection.
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what you did is pointless. If you leave data on, data is not connected when wifi is connected, and it will connect automatically when no wifi connection.
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It's not pointless to me. As I said a few posts before... I have OCD, obsessive compulsive disorder. Things like this affect me. I know that being connected to Wi-Fi that data is not connected, but in my brain, it's as if something is telling me that because my data toggle is on, it's running.
I really can't help it.
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