System Protection/Intrusion Detection - Samsung Mesmerize

Any suggestions on how to keep our mobile phones safe from intrusions like Dreamdroid, etc.?
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Onebryteday said:
Any suggestions on how to keep our mobile phones safe from intrusions like Dreamdroid, etc.?
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Search for lookout in the market. It scans apps for viruses in every app and they have a separate app that can remove dreamdroid if you get infected somehow.
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Only true way to stay secure is use common sense when downloading. Security software only gives users a fale sense of security. Look at what the app you download accesses and decide yourself on if you feel its safe or not.
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I'm going to have to disagree on that.

Disagree as you please. You guys find ways around these phones right? What makes you think there isn't a way around security apps. I know a computer is differ but send me any virus your anti virus software can detect and I can bypass it with the same exact virus. So I'm sure someone could do the same on a phone. Id like to see more people discuss this topic, then I'm sure we could come up with more ideas and ways to protect a phone.
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I appreciate the feedback. I would rather be proactive than reactive. Realizing nothing is 100%. Being secure is an on-going endeavour.
Thanks!
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im.matt said:
Disagree as you please. You guys find ways around these phones right? What makes you think there isn't a way around security apps. I know a computer is differ but send me any virus your anti virus software can detect and I can bypass it with the same exact virus. So I'm sure someone could do the same on a phone. Id like to see more people discuss this topic, then I'm sure we could come up with more ideas and ways to protect a phone.
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Far be it for me to put words in add's mouth (or anything for that matter, he bites! LOL), but I suspect what he's getting at is that, as Onebryteday has inferred, the only phone that is 100% secure is the phone that does not exist. That's essentially true for any device that needs securing in one form or another. I agree with what add is saying should that be the case.
It's foolish to depend solely on anti-virus software, yes, but only in that it is foolish to depend solely on *any* one single method. It is therefore equally foolish to completely ignore it on the assumption that anti-virus will be bypassed. It's just one layer of security you can apply, and shouldn't just be wholly ignored because it is not 100% secure.
The more correct way to say it is that it can be bypassed--whether it actually will or not depends on the virus you might pick up, the strength of the anti-virus you're running, how often it's updated, your own app installation choices, browser behavior, etc.
We're kinda bumping into extremes of a continuum here. Don't just ignore anti-virus solutions completely. Don't rely solely on them either. The more different and overlapping security measures you can take---both with software solutions, and simply by being educated about security compromises and proper security behavior---the better off you are.

TY sir! Well stated.
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That should be a sticky. I didn't mean to sound like an aver isn't any good, it just isn't enough. I would like to know more about the Android OS and possibly have a topic for security on our phones. The more people who can help prevent intrusions the harder it will be for malware makers to stay undetectable.
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I really don't think its much to be concerned about (for the moment at least).

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Evil Android

There’s a new threat in town. And by town, I mean China. Malware authors have created a bit of code called Geinimi that hitchhikes on existing apps when they are redistributed on third-party markets. At the moment it doesn’t do much but lurk, but its capabilities resemble that of a botnet server, according to Lookout, a company that makes antivirus software for Android.
So far the code has been identified as being able to send out your location, IMEI, app list, and to download apps. There could be more. Users outside of China are apparently at little risk, and at any rate your security is in your own hands: if you’re downloading a to-do list app and it wants access to your GPS and calling functions, that’s probably bogus.
Stay safe out there, kids.
Not to sure if this has been posted or not.
This is very disturbing...anything to get info on people..
I don't install antiviruses on my phone,because android is based on linux, and linux doesn't have viruses because of the strong kernel, plus its semi possible that you will have a virus on your phone.:thumbup:
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Octane70 said:
There’s a new threat in town. And by town, I mean China. Malware authors have created a bit of code called Geinimi that hitchhikes on existing apps when they are redistributed on third-party markets. At the moment it doesn’t do much but lurk, but its capabilities resemble that of a botnet server, according to Lookout, a company that makes antivirus software for Android.
So far the code has been identified as being able to send out your location, IMEI, app list, and to download apps. There could be more. Users outside of China are apparently at little risk, and at any rate your security is in your own hands: if you’re downloading a to-do list app and it wants access to your GPS and calling functions, that’s probably bogus.
Stay safe out there, kids.
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Its not a new threat, lookouts announcement of it was in 2010 and in 2011 it was picked up by more press but is actually a two year old threat which afaik never did cause any problems but is checked for by google and therefore probably other app distributors.
Dave
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I hear Android 5 (JellyBean) includes some kind of in-built malware protection.
Gotta wonder why...
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Nate2 said:
I hear Android 5 (JellyBean) includes some kind of in-built malware protection.
Gotta wonder why...
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Not heard that, would be surprised if it did as google use bouncer to combat the malware problem.
Dave
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Pancakes_Gio said:
I don't install antiviruses on my phone,because android is based on linux, and linux doesn't have viruses because of the strong kernel, plus its semi possible that you will have a virus on your phone.:thumbup:
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Wrong in many ways, it doesn't have viruses because the market is next to non-existent and getting a virus on an android device is more and more common.
Welp, as they say. Only install from trusted sources and always check the permissions the apps ask for. If you don't want the risk, go buy an Apple product and play by their rules. These are the risks that open-source brings and one that all of us bears in mind when tinkering with such power.
z33dev33l said:
Wrong in many ways, it doesn't have viruses because the market is next to non-existent and getting a virus on an android device is more and more common.
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Actually linux does have them, see http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware for some examples.
Linux has few simply because it tends to get patched quicker. Malware on android devices will increase more this year as its the most used mobile os and so offers more potential victims which makes it a more enticing prospect for hackers.
Dave
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That and there's no real security built-in to android and it's the easiest one to pirate apps on. I personally believe the people trying to get the apps free deserve the viruses though. Does the patching have to do with the Linux distro or the kernel? Serious question as I know little about Linux malware and only briefly used Linux.
i know kernels get patched, i think distros do as well.
alpha-niner64 said:
If you don't want the risk, go buy an Apple product
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You're joking, right? TLDR: How do you think jailbreaking is possible if Apple is so secure? Indeed, it's the false confidence that comes from them telling users that it's so secure that's precipitated so many of the blunders.
z33dev33l said:
That and there's no real security built-in to android and it's the easiest one to pirate apps on. I personally believe the people trying to get the apps free deserve the viruses though. Does the patching have to do with the Linux distro or the kernel? Serious question as I know little about Linux malware and only briefly used Linux.
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Kernel gets updated with patches but individual distributions also get system patches or did a few years ago when I last used linux.
I'm curious why you think there's no security built into android, as can be seen at http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/security/security.html there are a number of security measures in place.
Dave
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Use your brain for security
All the android malware reports I have ever read are just scare tactics used by various news agencys, blogs, etc to generate more views for their site. Almost all android malware can be avoided by simply being smart with where and what you download. Using iOS doesn't make you safe; downloading well known apps from the play store that only use permissions that are appropriate for its described functionality makes you safe.
z33dev33l said:
That and there's no real security built-in to android and it's the easiest one to pirate apps on. I personally believe the people trying to get the apps free deserve the viruses though.
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I agree 120% with you, cheating people's hard work will get you burnt!
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Ashmere69 said:
I agree 120% with you, cheating people's hard work will get you burnt!
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Exactly. Buy the app and you don't have to worry about it. Besides, it's not like these apps are fifty bucks each. Pay a couple of dollars and support the ecosyste
I think some of the real culprits to an evil Android is self-awareness on the handset, they always seem to delete and corrupt your stuff before you know it, but yeah, bootlegs are not good at all.
Octane70 said:
There’s a new threat in town. And by town, I mean China. Malware authors have created a bit of code called Geinimi that hitchhikes on existing apps when they are redistributed on third-party markets. At the moment it doesn’t do much but lurk, but its capabilities resemble that of a botnet server, according to Lookout, a company that makes antivirus software for Android.
So far the code has been identified as being able to send out your location, IMEI, app list, and to download apps. There could be more. Users outside of China are apparently at little risk, and at any rate your security is in your own hands: if you’re downloading a to-do list app and it wants access to your GPS and calling functions, that’s probably bogus.
Stay safe out there, kids.
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Eek!
iPhone doesn't have this problem...
L33t Masta said:
iPhone doesn't have this problem...
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Think again.
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Best antivirus for galaxy tab

Hi guys
i just read about trojan attack on android phones and hence i am planning to install antivirus software.
Could you please guide which is the best antivirus for galaxy tab which should not be very resource hungry.
Thanks in advance
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I use look out
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pda_crazy said:
Hi guys
i just read about trojan attack on android phones and hence i am planning to install antivirus software.
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A report that was released by a company selling anti-virus products for Android. A report that has since been attacked for its credibility, as it seems the "trojan" may simply have been a legitimate (if intrusive) reporting mechanism used by the Chinese store selling those apps.
Bottom line: If you don't side-load content, you simply do not need anti virus on Android. It's a waste of time, money, processing power and battery life. I'm not aware of any known exploits on the Android ecosystem that don't require the user to side-load malware from sources outside the official Android market.
Android isn't windows. Android is a secure architecture from the ground up. Android doesn't have OS holes that need plugging. Android doesn't offer itself up to be infected every time an email is received.
If you're really worried about viruses, simply don't install apps from anywhere except the official Android market. Doing this single thing will do far more to guarantee safety than any anti-virus software.
Now if you do side-load content from questionable sources, an anti-virus product could potentially provide protection. In the real word, anti-virus software rarely recognizes new, zero day exploits. so not all that much protection at all.
After hearing such good things about android i am feeling proud to be android owner.
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Do we really need an Antivirus on the Galaxy Tab?
Better safe than sorry especially since there is no rejection poilicy for the market
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i think your better served reading the permissions of apps installed.
Things like Applanet that ask for access to log in credentials are far more dangerous then malware.
That is as long as your not getting your apps from chinese markets.
NetQin Android Antivirus
pda_crazy said:
Hi guys
i just read about trojan attack on android phones and hence i am planning to install antivirus software.
Could you please guide which is the best antivirus for galaxy tab which should not be very resource hungry.
Thanks in advance
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NetQin Android Antivirus, works fine!
TainT said:
i think your better served reading the permissions of apps installed.
Things like Applanet that ask for access to log in credentials are far more dangerous then malware.
That is as long as your not getting your apps from chinese markets.
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This.
Antivirus apps are not required. These "reports" are from antivirus creators designed to make you think you need one.
Actually read the reports? They are not viruses, but simply permissions you give it when installing anyway.
I wouldn't have thought antivirus was required, especially given Android's base as a Linux. All it would do is waste CPU cycles.
Spent the last 5 years as a Symbian user listening to people claim that AV on the phones was a 'must have'.
Glad to see some things are the same on Android!
A Trojan Horse on Android/Linux is like an upper class chav, it's not going to happen.
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EStrong Security manager isn't an antivirus per se but it seems to do a manual scan for malicious apps. They're very vague as to what it actually does though.
I don't really understand why people feel the need to get anti-virus for linux. To get something malicious you've got to install it yourself and thats pretty damn hard considering the phone will tell you what the app is tring to access and even then the app doesn't have any access to any other apps nor does it have root access to the phones file system.... the most it could really do is collect data about you, or maybe delete files on your SD card or something like that.
there is some very naive linux fanboys in here. there is plenty of reasons to have some sort of malware/privacy security on android. there have been various independant confirmations of apps in the market place containing malware espesially in the last month or so.
lookout is a good one or kaspersky. the both have good scanners and also can protect personal info aswell.
TheATHEiST said:
there is some very naive linux fanboys in here. there is plenty of reasons to have some sort of malware/privacy security on android. there have been various independant confirmations of apps in the market place containing malware espesially in the last month or so.
lookout is a good one or kaspersky. the both have good scanners and also can protect personal info aswell.
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I would think that since the last reply was from January, people would have learnt that.. The last malware incident that got Google involved within 5 minutes and had over 50 apps pulled was pretty well publicized.
Anyway, people have got to realize that no one OS is invulnerable. It's just a matter of time before people start finding exploits when an OS gets popular - for Android that time is now. Heck, not sure how many people are aware, but roots and jailbreaks ARE exploits themselves. Trying scanning the rooting/jailbreaking tools with your desktop AV and all becomes clear.
darkwoof said:
Heck, not sure how many people are aware, but roots and jailbreaks ARE exploits themselves. Trying scanning the rooting/jailbreaking tools with your desktop AV and all becomes clear.
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Precisely. A rooted device is the best to attack for malware apps. If there's a developer that's smart enough, they can get pretty much anything if you're rooted.
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Since I'm rooted, I installed Lookout too.
Funny coz it's easily uninstalled eventhough has apps policy/administrator (I forgot the name)
Well.. I use it mainly for the Missing Device feature (paired with PREY also).
GANJDROID said:
Precisely. A rooted device is the best to attack for malware apps. If there's a developer that's smart enough, they can get pretty much anything if you're rooted.
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dude you did not understand the last post at all!
you dont need to have your device rooted. a normal market app can root your device without you knowing it, and can then do whatever with your device.
how do you think z4root does root your device? (z4root is an app that does root the phone for you, normally with your knowledge)
Geletis said:
A report that was released by a company selling anti-virus products for Android. A report that has since been attacked for its credibility, as it seems the "trojan" may simply have been a legitimate (if intrusive) reporting mechanism used by the Chinese store selling those apps.
Bottom line: If you don't side-load content, you simply do not need anti virus on Android. It's a waste of time, money, processing power and battery life. I'm not aware of any known exploits on the Android ecosystem that don't require the user to side-load malware from sources outside the official Android market.
Android isn't windows. Android is a secure architecture from the ground up. Android doesn't have OS holes that need plugging. Android doesn't offer itself up to be infected every time an email is received.
If you're really worried about viruses, simply don't install apps from anywhere except the official Android market. Doing this single thing will do far more to guarantee safety than any anti-virus software.
Now if you do side-load content from questionable sources, an anti-virus product could potentially provide protection. In the real word, anti-virus software rarely recognizes new, zero day exploits. so not all that much protection at all.
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Dude, You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. MANY malware have been discovered as been submitted and released via market.
http://pocketnow.com/android/google-removes-ten-malware-infected-apps-from-android-market

[Q] At this point, what is the best app to protect against malware on Android?

There's been a lot of news of late regarding malware outbreaks on Android.
What are the best apps to protect against malware? If it wouldn't cause a significant decrease in security, I would prefer an app I could use to scan files before running them, rather than a TSR app. But if that's what it takes, so be it.
What are the best ones?
Haphim said:
There's been a lot of news of late regarding malware outbreaks on Android.
What are the best apps to protect against malware? If it wouldn't cause a significant decrease in security, I would prefer an app I could use to scan files before running them, rather than a TSR app. But if that's what it takes, so be it.
What are the best ones?
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I've been using lookout that seems to work fine for me and checks everything once downloaded hope this helps
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Please read lookout full tos. They have the right to take ownership, collect, sublease, sell, and distribute any and all of your personal information. I'd seriously think twice before I ever signed up with lookout.
Alright, so that one's out. Is there no such thing as a generally accepted top of the line protection app?

Any way to block FBI microphone hack?

http://bgr.com/2013/08/02/fbi-android-microphone-hack/
Anyone know how this works or how to block it?
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umm wow. that is crazy
I know right. I had no idea something like this was possible.
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How the hell could google decline to comment?!?! This story needs to blow up big time and make google have to respond!
Bomb bomb terrorist attack paroxide jihaad president ala Iran Jew plot bin laden Arabian afganistan ...bla bla bla 911 77 government Cameron Obama explosive detonator kill kidnap ....
I wonder if my mic has been switched on?
As long as NSA does not also have this capability I'm ok. FBI still has to get a warrant to spy on someone like this similar to getting a phone tap.
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FBI still has to get a warrant
curiousbob said:
As long as NSA does not also have this capability I'm ok. FBI still has to get a warrant to spy on someone like this similar to getting a phone tap.
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And elves live in my garden too.
The government does what ever it wants. The Constitution has become no more than a speedbump to government employees.
anyone?
Any developers have actual thoughts on this question? If the FBI can do it, it stands to reason that anyone can do it. It would be good to know if this exploit can be blocked by root users.
Surprised that XDAers don't want to figure this one out.
Pretty conformist for a site for custom software.
evilmrt said:
Surprised that XDAers don't want to figure this one out.
Pretty conformist for a site for custom software.
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How do you know someone is not already working on it? You have to understand that this type of coding would be system wide and hidden very well. It may very well take an entire re-write of the whole OS to remove. Also this is not a custom software site. It is a site to help people learn to do things on their own.
zelendel said:
How do you know someone is not already working on it?
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You'd know better than I would. Are they?
evilmrt said:
You'd know better than I would. Are they?
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I wouldn't know any more then you as I am not working on it. This is something that would be kept close to the chest as the min it was released it would be patched. Mainly now that they are using free lance hackers to look for exploits.
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It has to be switched on somewhere. Even if it is system wide...
Htm.... I wonder how much Apple paid for this article....
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X10D3 said:
It has to be switched on somewhere. Even if it is system wide...
Htm.... I wonder how much Apple paid for this article....
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Pretty sure Apple has the same thing built into iOS.
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@jcase might be able to give some insight as to how hard this would be to circumvent,
I would think you'd need a kernel level manual override of drivers where x driver cannot be activated under any circumstance unless you manually allow it, kind of like asking for SU permissions, then you use a third party dialer that you personally coded or something of the sort.
I mean you'd basically have to go through the AOSP code line by line I would think to actually locate this.
orangekid said:
Pretty sure Apple has the same thing built into iOS.
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@jcase might be able to give some insight as to how hard this would be to circumvent,
I would think you'd need a kernel level manual override of drivers where x driver cannot be activated under any circumstance unless you manually allow it, kind of like asking for SU permissions, then you use a third party dialer that you personally coded or something of the sort.
I mean you'd basically have to go through the AOSP code line by line I would think to actually locate this.
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They do say that it's being done by hackers. Usually by an exploit, spyware, etc. There may not be any bugs in AOSP, and it very well could be in carrier/manufacturer programming.
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They do say that it's being done by hackers. Usually by an exploit, spyware, etc. There may not be any bugs in AOSP, and it very well could be in carrier/manufacturer programming.
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I wouldn't call it a "bug" if it's being purposely put into the code.
What I am getting is it's being done by the FBI, not "hackers."
http://propakistani.pk/2013/08/02/f...r-android-phone-mic-or-laptop-cameras-report/
"Hacker" seems to just be any word the media uses for anyone who does something questionable on a computer or phone.
I use a Nexus 4 (pure AOSP code) and I would think they could do this to my phone just as easily as say an SGS4 or what have you..
This article seems to indicate that it's not a deliberate backdoor, but an actual exploit that's giving them the mic access. They also mention laptops (obviously not running Android) so I think it's more likely they're just hacking these platforms and using their new privileges to turn the mic on.
Also if you think about it, the mic isn't a restricted device on Linux or Windows. You can touch it without any special permission, so they wouldn't have to completely own your device to listen in on you.
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Bomb bomb terrorist attack paroxide jihaad president ala Iran Jew plot bin laden Arabian afganistan ...bla bla bla 911 77 government Cameron Obama explosive detonator kill kidnap ....
I wonder if my mic has been switched on?
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Best laugh I've had all day.
Thank you
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orangekid said:
Pretty sure Apple has the same thing built into iOS.
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@jcase might be able to give some insight as to how hard this would be to circumvent,
I would think you'd need a kernel level manual override of drivers where x driver cannot be activated under any circumstance unless you manually allow it, kind of like asking for SU permissions, then you use a third party dialer that you personally coded or something of the sort.
I mean you'd basically have to go through the AOSP code line by line I would think to actually locate this.
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I call BS on any FBI microphone backdoor without hard evidence. Possibility of state sponsored malware that does it? Certainly exists. Don't install random apps you dont trust, stay away from malware and use an international carrier unbranded phone that gets updates frequently (S4 (GT-i9500) and unbranded HTC One likely fit this description, so do GPE devices). Also, most custom roms are horribly outdated as far as security patches go.
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I call BS on any FBI microphone backdoor without hard evidence. Possibility of state sponsored malware that does it? Certainly exists..
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This wouldnt surprise me after reading that they are using free lance hackers to find exploits in different OS.

We all android users @ high risk?

When I read this blog I can't believe we are so vulnerable to this dangerous virus, Google fixed this for lollipop but what about Kitkat & other rooms?
http://www.cmcm.com/blog/en/security/2014-11-15/468.html
https://android.googlesource.com/platform/packages/apps/Settings/+/37b58a4^!/#F0
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Virus name is BroadAnywhere, I hope XDA DEV may already has taken note of this.
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To protect against this vulnerability, please use Clean Master
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What a surprise, to protect yourself against this threat, the site you posted suggest using Clean Master, one of their own apps. Hmmmmmm........
Pagnell said:
What a surprise, to protect yourself against this threat, the site you posted suggest using Clean Master, one of their own apps. Hmmmmmm........
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Agreed. Obvious advertising. CM doing a good job of it.
Repeatedly urged Devs to isolate CM cleaner app from CM security they will simply not listen. Why should my cleaner provide me Security? Simply overdoing stuffs.
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vikraminside said:
Agreed. Obvious advertising. CM doing a good job of it.
Repeatedly urged Devs to isolate CM cleaner app from CM security they will simply not listen. Why should my cleaner provide me Security? Simply overdoing stuffs.
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Agree but what Google says in another link I posted? Which makes me think may this news is not only advertise, but I m not a expert to understand what Google is saying. [emoji15]
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D'you know what the thing is? There's always a hole, or a leak, or a bug, or a backdoor somewhere. Fix one, they just find a new one.
They keep finding holes in Windows that have been there for over 10 years without anyone ever noticing.
I wouldn't worry overly much about it. Software and devices will never be 100% secure, unless you put it in a Faraday cage.
ShadowLea said:
D'you know what the thing is? There's always a hole, or a leak, or a bug, or a backdoor somewhere. Fix one, they just find a new one.
They keep finding holes in Windows that have been there for over 10 years without anyone ever noticing.
I wouldn't worry overly much about it. Software and devices will never be 100% secure, unless you put it in a Faraday cage.
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+1, but at least we can take precautions against known malware if we aware.
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How about Unix Mac etc? I don't hear such many threats as windows. Well built stuff are less prone in my opinion.
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vikraminside said:
How about Unix Mac etc? I don't hear such many threats as windows. Well built stuff are less prone in my opinion.
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The fact that Windows has more threats is true. Your opinion of the cause, however, is not.
The reason Windows has more viruses and malware is simply because Windows has always had millions more users.
5 years ago hardly anyone did their bank affairs from their phone, preferring to use their computers.
Today, 70% does it from their phone.
5 years ago malware for a phone wasn't a profitable venue. Today, it most certainly is. Malware follows the crowd.
Malware for unix/linux/ubuntu isn't worth the effort, as its users are typically a lot more tech-savvy than 90% of the Windows users.
ShadowLea said:
The fact that Windows has more threats is true. Your opinion of the cause, however, is not.
The reason Windows has more viruses and malware is simply because Windows has always had millions more users.
5 years ago hardly anyone did their bank affairs from their phone, preferring to use their computers.
Today, 70% does it from their phone.
5 years ago malware for a phone wasn't a profitable venue. Today, it most certainly is. Malware follows the crowd.
Malware for unix/linux/ubuntu isn't worth the effort, as its users are typically a lot more tech-savvy than 90% of the Windows users.
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So malware follow crowds, Android has max market share, Linux based android has malware, not coming to any conclusion, confused ?
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jdomadia said:
So malware follow crowds, Android has max market share, Linux based android has malware, not coming to any conclusion, confused ?
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As is written in a BBC article:
Mobile malware was growing in popularity among cybercrime groups because smartphones were now so central to modern life, said Eldar Tuvey from mobile security monitoring firm Wandera
"We're definitely seeing the bad guys focus their attention on mobiles," he said. "That's because more time is now spent on apps on phones than desktops."
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http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-30143283
I thought the conclusion was pretty clear....
ShadowLea said:
5 years ago malware for a phone wasn't a profitable venue. Today, it most certainly is. Malware follows the crowd.
Malware for unix/linux/ubuntu isn't worth the effort, as its users are typically a lot more tech-savvy than 90% of the Windows users.
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I see the reverse. Server platforms run in Unix mainly. Attacking a server is equivalent to attacking millions of its clients.
Is it easy to break 100 computers or break 1 computer and retrieve 100 computer information?
The fact as I see it, many of them are hoax warnings let's say 90% + .
Some AV companies deliberately hire virus programmers to increase their sales. Innocent users are scapegoats to upgrade.
To me malwarebytes did work in PC along with AVG firewall.
In Android I use TrustGo which has good Anti theft, phone locate features. While testing alarm even I was taken aback with the noise it created.
I do not recommend any software its what is being used at my end.
Please have a look at this to understand what I mean:
http://www.cnet.com/news/top-five-paid-app-on-google-play-was-an-antivirus-scam/
Poorly built heavily hit.
@OP
Android runs over Unix based as you said but its a separate wrapper OS again.
Thats why we keep rooting to become Unix superuser to safeguard ourselves. Truth is Unix's shell is hard as tortoise shell.
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vikraminside said:
I see the reverse. Server platforms run in Unix mainly. Attacking a server is equivalent to attacking millions of its clients.
Is it easy to break 100 computers or break 1 computer and retrieve 100 computer information?
The fact as I see it, many of them are hoax warnings let's say 90% + .
Some AV companies deliberately hire virus programmers to increase their sales. Innocent users are scapegoats to upgrade.
To me malwarebytes did work in PC along with AVG firewall.
In Android I use TrustGo which has good Anti theft, phone locate features. While testing alarm even I was taken aback with the noise it created.
I do not recommend any software its what is being used at my end.
Please have a look at this to understand what I mean:
http://www.cnet.com/news/top-five-paid-app-on-google-play-was-an-antivirus-scam/
Poorly built heavily hit.
@OP
Android runs over Unix based as you said but its a separate wrapper OS again.
Thats why we keep rooting to become Unix superuser to safeguard ourselves. Truth is Unix's shell is hard as tortoise shell.
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I'm aware that most are scams. One need only look at the fact that every AV on Windows marks Steam_api.dll as a virus to know that. (A blatant and inefficient means of preventing piracy. Steam_api is the cracked file, so they pretend it's a virus in the hopes of stopping people from using it.)
The reason attacking a phone by means of an app is more efficient is because servers are maintained by people who know what they're doing.
90% of the phone users haven't a bloody clue what they're doing.
The amount of people who click on 'Update your Whatsapp' banners in websites is ridiculous. That's how they get infected.
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A simple rule which i used for myself dont click as and when you like. Same rules applied on windows. Certain ads apps or even games could contain viruses or malware. Just be cautious and careful when surfing the web or even fb coz fb does have alot of phishing ads.
Also apart from the experts taking care of the server (not always as good or dedicated) both the attack vector and discovery methods are different than desktop or mobiles.
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There was a discussion about Networked AV protection by AV companies during the recent past to filter virus like a NEURAL NETWORK.
It will be good if implemented. The viruses can be arrested even before it reaches devices.
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+1
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After installing cm security app i found my phone was infected with broad anywhere.
Hold on, what it did clean? Where was it found? How do i know its true or fake? Why it's not showing path or trace of virus? Why other AV like Trustgo not interested in it? Are they not capable? Remember we had patches in PC from AV companies for specific viruses even if entire AV product not installed. Is it not applicable for mobiles? Creates lot many questions...
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vikraminside said:
After installing cm security app i found my phone was infected with broad anywhere.
Hold on, what it did clean? Where was it found? How do i know its true or fake? Why it's not showing path or trace of virus? Why other AV like Trustgo not interested in it? Are they not capable? Remember we had patches in PC from AV companies for specific viruses even if entire AV product not installed. Is it not applicable for mobiles? Creates lot many questions...
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I don't think your phone was infected , may it found vulnerable to broad anyware & CM applied patch for same. I think all AV companies try to make some sensational news to sell their product & broad anyware may be one of many....

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