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After doing a manual root, the Thunderbolt connects to LTE fine but when there is no LTE, the 3G won't connect and the phone doesn't receive data.
Advice?
Try checking to make sure you are not in LTE only mode. Dial *#*#4636#*#*, select phone information, scroll down and go down and make sure you are on the CDMA + LTE/EvDo auto option and not LTE mode.
If that doesn't work, try downloading "reset connections" from the android market and running that app when you enter a 3g area out of 4g range. It may be a handoff issue from 4g to 3g towers.
##778# hit dial, edit mode, password is 000000, modem settings, Rev. A, change to enabled, instead of eHRPD, hit menu, commit changes.
try 3G again.
I assume like me, you are in a section where Verizon's Hybrid Network isn't working, and so you must tell your phone to revert back to their regular 3G network.
We have 4G in Pittsburgh, but there's a spot in Squirrel Hill that I go through on the bus in the morning where I drop to 1x, and I'm fairly certain that there is 3G there. However, there are other areas I've definitely seen 3G. So, it seems a little mixed. We're definitely early adopters of this new network
The fix
Phone ##778, edit mode, 000000, modem parms, REV-A change from ePHRD to enabled, menu, commit, reboot, problem fixed.
seems to have worked for me. I was having a problem with syncing too, hopefully this fixes that as well. Thank you!
madman34 said:
Phone ##778, edit mode, 000000, modem parms, REV-A change from ePHRD to enabled, menu, commit, reboot, problem fixed.
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Not to familiar with TB verizon, but friend bought his TB and I saw there was 4GLTE on it, and now nothing, no icon not in wireless networks, nada!
What is this "fix" for?
LTE is back online, please follow steps at the bottom of this post to get everything back in order.
*If you are in a 4G area it is advisable to make sure you switch to eHRPD to avoid bad hand offs between 4G and 3G as well as allowing simultaneous voice without hiccups. I noticed my GPS was not working last night so it is possible eHRPD settings will affect your gps or it could have just been due to the network issues.
As most are aware both the LTE network and eHPRD are down (a special version of 3G for the Thunderbolt only). To get 3G data back you just need to change your settings back to the normal 3G network. Here are the steps:
Dial ##778# and hit send
A pop-up window named EPST will show up giving you 2 choices: View Mode and Edit Mode. Pick: Edit Mode.
Enter the Password: 000000
Go down to Modem Settings and pick “Rev A“
You’ll want to choose enable and click OK, hit the menu button and then press “Commit Modifications.”
Restart your phone and you should see 3G is working
last step (may not be necessary)
dial *#*#4636#*#* go to phone info, then set preferred network type to CDMA auto (PRL)
I hope this helps anyone that is left in the dark by this outage.
If you are running a non-stock dialer or a rom that included a dialer it may prevent you from entering settings. Flash this zip to go back to stock dialer
http://www.mediafire.com/?9yf09ri4t2mip4z
For those that want instructions for after LTE is back on
These 2 steps will put you back on LTE and then put you back on the correct 3G for the Thunderbolt, when its back up.
dial *#*#4636#*#* to get LTE, go to phone info, set preferred network type to CDMA + LTE EvDo auto
Dial ##778# and hit send
A pop-up window named EPST will show up giving you 2 choices: View Mode and Edit Mode. Pick: Edit Mode.
Enter the Password: 000000
Go down to Modem Settings and pick “Rev A“
You’ll want to choose eHRPD and click OK, hit the menu button and then press “Commit Modifications.”
wakestrong said:
As most are aware both the LTE network and eHPRD are down (a special version of 3G for the Thunderbolt only). To get 3G data back you just need to change your settings back to the normal 3G network. Here are the steps:
Dial ##778# and hit send
A pop-up window named EPST will show up giving you 2 choices: View Mode and Edit Mode. Pick: Edit Mode.
Enter the Password: 000000
Go down to Modem Settings and pick “Rev A“
You’ll want to choose eHRPD and click OK, hit the menu button and then press “Commit Modifications.”
I hope this helps anyone that is left in the dark by this outage.
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Isn't this selected by default? I changed it to "enabled" let it reboot, and 3G is back on.
By default we are setup for the eHPRD 3G network on the Thunderbolt because it allows faster switching between 4G and 3G. Since both network features are down you have to switch your settings to the 3G network used by all other Verizon phones.
wakestrong said:
As most are aware both the LTE network and eHPRD are down (a special version of 3G for the Thunderbolt only). To get 3G data back you just need to change your settings back to the normal 3G network. Here are the steps:
Dial ##778# and hit send
A pop-up window named EPST will show up giving you 2 choices: View Mode and Edit Mode. Pick: Edit Mode.
Enter the Password: 000000
Go down to Modem Settings and pick “Rev A“
You’ll want to choose eHRPD and click OK, hit the menu button and then press “Commit Modifications.”
I hope this helps anyone that is left in the dark by this outage.
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eHRPD is the new 3g in thunderbolt I believe you need to select enable.
wakestrong said:
By default we are setup for the eHPRD 3G network on the Thunderbolt because it allows faster switching between 4G and 3G. Since both network features are down you have to switch your settings to the 3G network used by all other Verizon phones.
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so select enabled then correct?
wakestrong said:
By default we are setup for the eHPRD 3G network on the Thunderbolt because it allows faster switching between 4G and 3G. Since both network features are down you have to switch your settings to the 3G network used by all other Verizon phones.
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yea but in your instructions you said select eHPRD, which is already selected.
Yes enable, sorry I was too fast in typing out my instructions and goofed
one more step guys, if you are on auto cdma/lte settings, you might have to go in to
*#*#4636#*#* and select phone info and then select EVDO only to get 3g under preffered network settings.
It would be nice if you could add this to OP wakestrong. I think people in 4g area have cdma/lte auto option enabled so in the phone settings the phone is still trying to pick up the older cdma.
So this has worked for everyone? I tried this earlier with no luck and just did it again with no luck either :/
Nate14 said:
So this has worked for everyone? I tried this earlier with no luck and just did it again with no luck either :/
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No luck for me either. Im good tho. Im home and will be off and home tomorrow so I'll just use wifi until they fix it.
Nate14 said:
So this has worked for everyone? I tried this earlier with no luck and just did it again with no luck either :/
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Look post above. You might have cdma/lte auto enabled under phone info menu so it is still searching for 4g and older 3g.
ITS NKD man Not NDK, lol.
nkd said:
Look post above. You might have cdma/lte auto enabled under phone info menu so it is still searching for 4g and older 3g.
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Just saw, thanks for the tip.
Nate14 said:
Just saw, thanks for the tip.
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technically if you would have waited it would have eventually gone to 3g but might have taken a while, but that option is just an easy way of doing it.
thanks for the tip
nkd said:
ITS NKD man Not NDK, lol.
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lol, you gotta pick on the dyslexic guy huh?
JK
wakestrong said:
lol, you gotta pick on the dyslexic guy huh?
JK
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I cry if someone messes up my screenname, lol.
wakestrong said:
As most are aware both the LTE network and eHPRD are down (a special version of 3G for the Thunderbolt only). To get 3G data back you just need to change your settings back to the normal 3G network. Here are the steps:
Dial ##778# and hit send
A pop-up window named EPST will show up giving you 2 choices: View Mode and Edit Mode. Pick: Edit Mode.
Enter the Password: 000000
Go down to Modem Settings and pick “Rev A“
You’ll want to choose enable and click OK, hit the menu button and then press “Commit Modifications.”
I hope this helps anyone that is left in the dark by this outage.
edit 2 suggested by NKD: one more step guys, if you are on auto cdma/lte settings, you might have to go in to
*#*#4636#*#* and select EVDO only to get 3g.
My thunderbolt worked on auto cdma/lte but this may cause less conflict.
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Thanks a million! It worked. Good night, I was on 1x ever since I flashed the stock rom. I thought for a while it was an error on my part. Talk about bad timing.
I love all the nifty little tricks we find on the internet
Thanks OP.
First the PSN is down for a few days, and now Verizon's new network. Wth?
raider3bravo said:
Thanks a million! It worked. Good night, I was on 1x ever since I flashed the stock rom. I thought for a while it was an error on my part. Talk about bad timing.
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Yea I could see how that would be a stressful situation. Glad it worked out for you.
The thunderbolt had this and it was nice.
Basically when I'm at work I'm in a fringe 4g area. If I leave the phone in 3g/4g auto mode then it constantly switches between the two and it destroys my battery. Not only that but it makes 4g basically unusable for me as it never stays on long enough to do anything with it.
On the thunderbolt by going into the phone info settings you could select LTE only mode.
On the Charge you only have the options of going CDMA only or CDMA/LTE auto. There is no LTE only option.
Is this something that can be corrected by an app or rom or kernel or is it built into the radio software?
I used the phone info app that worked great on the thunderbolt and on the charge it just comes up with a bunch of options like WCDMA only, GSM only and such and as far as I can tell none of them actually do anything.
Hopefully someone knows the answer to this because I like tethering to my tablets at work but if I can't have consistent 4g then I'm gonna be forced to return to my tbolt which is a shame because I like this charge alot better.
I haven't pucked up a Charge yet, but most Sammy phones let you for some fine grain tuning if the radio and other system settings via a menu accessed by a dialer code.
You could try *#*#197328640#*#* (is debug mode) and dig in from there.
Sent from Thunderbolt
distortedloop said:
I haven't pucked up a Charge yet, but most Sammy phones let you for some fine grain tuning if the radio and other system settings via a menu accessed by a dialer code.
You could try *#*#197328640#*#* (is debug mode) and dig in from there.
Sent from Thunderbolt
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Already tried that, it doesn't work on the charge. It just dials and you get the "Welcome to Verizon wireless, your call cannot be completed as dialed" message.
I believe if you go settings ->wireless and network->mobile networks->system selection change it to CDMA mode will disable LTE.
you can try dialing "*#*#4636#*#*" that takes me to a hidden menu on the thunderbolt. If it works, from that menu select "phone Information" then select LTE only. or if you want to disable 4g (Helps battery in non 4g areas) you can select "CDMA auto(prl)"
thetwiztidfreak said:
you can try dialing "*#*#4636#*#*" that takes me to a hidden menu on the thunderbolt. If it works, from that menu select "phone Information" then select LTE only. or if you want to disable 4g (Helps battery in non 4g areas) you can select "CDMA auto(prl)"
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Beat me to it
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Thanks but did you guys even read my original post?
For starters, I'm not trying to disable LTE... I'm trying to force LTE only.
Secondly, as I previously said, This phone does not have the same radio options that the thunderbolt does. There is no option for LTE only. I understand the difference between CDMA auto PRL, CDMA/LTE auto and LTE only. THE PROBLEM IS THIS PHONE DOES NOT HAVE AN LTE ONLY OPTION!
I tried the phone info app that works on the thunderbolt, the only options are all for WCDMA only, GSM only and CDMA only and various combinations of them. There is no LTE only. Besides, none of the options present in that menu actually change anything, only the 2 that are built into the wireless network settings do (CDMA only and CDMA/LTE Auto).
Not trying to be a **** but if you're gonna post something to try and answer a question or help someone at least make sure you read the question.
In the same boat as you. I actually get decent service on LTE at home, and virtually nothing on 3G... go figure, but it keeps trying.
navycow said:
In the same boat as you. I actually get decent service on LTE at home, and virtually nothing on 3G... go figure, but it keeps trying.
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i have the same problem as both you guys and this is so frustrating. when its connected to 4g i get between 8-10mb down. i also have a samsung mifi hotspot for verizon and it shows a strong 4g signal and gets over 10mb down consistently in the very same location.
i have no idea why my droid charge keeps switching between 4g and 3g. the funny thing is the only reason i really mind is because the 3g signal is horrible. if i was getting 2mb down on the 3g like i have seen at other locations i wouldnt mind at all.
yeah i have the same issue as well, i'm really not even sure what it's testing to decide to switch from 4g to 3g, i live about 100 yards from the verizon tower i'm connecting to and have full reception on both 4g and 3g but yet it still switches randomly between the 2, we really need a way to disable 3g
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Still nothing on this front? I'm afraid I'm gonna have to return my charge tomorrow then =(
No LTE only mode = no 4g for me.
I already did and canceled Verizon, I'll have to stick with sprint. I really loved the charge, and wanted to keep it and stay with Verizon , but my evo gets a full 4g signal both at home and work. Too bad, the charge was an awesome phone
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It actually seems to be the way android handles 4G, either on purpose or just coincidentally.
I have the same issue at work with Sprint, 4G gives me 2-3 bars but there is NO 3G, but it turns 4G off when the screen is locked, so it sits there trying to get backups in 3G all day, spare parts lets you force wifi to stay on, surely there should be a similar switch for 4G a dev could find.
Any luck on this issue here? I have a feeling I'm in a fringe area where it could potentially switch me between networks quite often...
Is it safe to assume that an LTE-only option is impossible unless Samsung does something to enable this functionality out of their LTE chip (CMC220)?
Any updates on a LTE/4G only option?
I found out how to force LTE Only ...
Warning! If this bonks up your phone, don't blame me!
Use at your own risk!
Now that we got that out of the way, here is what I have found:
Enable the Hidden Menu option by entering the following code in your phone dialer: *#22745927
Enter an SPC of: 000000
Select: Hiddenmenu Enable
Select: OK (Your phone may reset after this)
To get to the "Force CMDA/LTE/Global" menu, enter the following code in your phone dialer: **583
If you press the LTE button, you will be fixed on the LTE network.
Reset your phone
Taaa-daa!
Note: You apparently need connectivity to the CDMA network to make phone calls & text messages (Thanks, chaoscentral!) Oh, well ...
To reset back to the normal LTE/CDMA automatic selection mode:
Go to the "Force CMDA/LTE/Global" menu by enter the following code in your phone dialer: **583
Press the CDMA button, which will re-enable your phone to default to the CDMA network.
Reset your phone
When your phone boots back up, go to: Settings >> Wireless & network >> Mobile networks >> System selection >> LTE automatic
Cheers!
just keep in mind LTE only mode means no phone calls or text messages. since those go over CDMA
Ah, I should've guessed they would make the phone code for this hidden menu option "LTE". Now I wish there was a way to only disable EV-DO 3G (leaving CDMA intact for phone calls/texts). Can't have it all I guess...
Thanks for this regardless!
PeterDLai said:
Ah, I should've guessed they would make the phone code for this hidden menu option "LTE". Now I wish there was a way to only disable EV-DO 3G (leaving CDMA intact for phone calls/texts). Can't have it all I guess...
Thanks for this regardless!
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Yep. I tried goofing around with a few different options on the "LTE" theme, but nothing came up.
Then, I realized that I had loaded new ROMs since the last time I had enabled the Hidden Menus option, and figured out that my Hidden Menus were no longer enabled. Once I re-enabled the hidden menus, I tried *#LTE#* (which didn't work), and then **LTE, which did.
BTW, for anyone that has had problems making phone calls after following my original settings, I have updated the post on to how to get back to automatic LTE/CDMA.
Also, has anyone tried that **583 "Global" option yet? Verrrry Interesting!! (But, spooky!)**
Ain't messin' with your phone fun?
** Anyone who gets this reference wins one "Bippy".
Dial *#*#4636#*#* go into phone information scroll down and choose wcdma only and your done default is GSM/WCDMA auto (PRL)
samsungcaptivates said:
Dial *#*#4636#*#* go into phone information scroll down and choose wcdma only and your done default is GSM/WCDMA auto (PRL)
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please excuse my ignorance, but what would be the purpose of this?
so that it dosent jump around from 3g 2g if its auto and your not using data it automatically defaults to 2g i think to save battery then switches to 3g oir hsdpa 3.5g or what att calls 4g on demand this keeps it locked on wcdma or 4g to my knowledge
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so that it dosent jump around from 3g 2g if its auto and your not using data it automatically defaults to 2g i think to save battery then switches to 3g oir hsdpa 3.5g or what att calls 4g on demand this keeps it locked on wcdma or 4g to my knowledge
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seems like it reverts back to auto after a reboot
This makes the phone work on Verizon, right?
MikeyMike01 said:
This makes the phone work on Verizon, right?
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See that's what I thought too. ATT = GSM, Verizon/Sprint = CDMA.
kwaalude said:
seems like it reverts back to auto after a reboot
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Mine goes back to auto as soon as I back out of the menu. Am I doing something wrong by using the back button?
wouldn't this, by locking it, render the phone useless when traveling out of area that support that network?
MikeyMike01 said:
This makes the phone work on Verizon, right?
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roflmao 10char
vbanh said:
Mine goes back to auto as soon as I back out of the menu. Am I doing something wrong by using the back button?
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Mine does the same thing. did you figure out how to do it? I have been trying but I couldn't do it
I found this here in the forum someone posted and it worked for me thanks for him.
champoux said:
Here's an alternate method I puzzled out (and then afterward discovered it was already posted in thread 751237. It's a bit faster and has the advantage of surviving flight mode; still gets reset upon restart.
Dial *#*#2263#*#* (mnemonic: *#*#BAND#*#*).
This brings up the Band selection menu which you can also access from the above method by dialing *#*#197328640#*#* then going into DEBUG SCREEN > PHONE CONTROL > NETWORK CONTROL.
Select [3] GSM BAND
Select [1] GSM ALL
Select "Select GSM All Bands"
Menu key > END
To switch back, go to *#*#2263#*#* and select [1] AUTOMATIC > Select GSM &WCDMA All Bands > Menu key > END.
Something else I'm trying out is switching the acquisition order so when it is in "dual" mode, it'll try GSM first. Even so, it will still switch to 3g if there's enough signal. Seems to help keep it on 2G though, when it would otherwise cling to a faint 3g signal with 0-1 bars.
To do that, go into the NETWORK CONTROL menu (see above) then
Select [4] AQUISITION ORDER (yes they misspelled it)
Select [2] GSM->UMTS
Select "Select ACQ_ORDER_GSM_FIRST" (at least they abbreviated it correctly)
Menu key > END
This option does not get reset upon phone restart.
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I did this and now my sms or text messaging don't work help
I had this happen too, but I didn't use the above method. Don't know what happened, but when I checked message settings, I had no number under "Message Center" did a quick google search and found an ATT number "+13123149810"...now it works again.
Did u call the number
Never mind i fixed it.but now in my network type it says umts is that faster then hsdpa and are there any other number sequences i can use to tweak my phone
I'm getting RAT restricted, which I got on my Vibrant but never my Captivate...
How can I change to show the different bands?
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wcdma and cdma have nothing to do with each other. wcdma is also known as umts, the base part of 3g (and 4g when hspa+). hspa is a protocol that runs on top of this cell technology providing higher data speeds. gprs (known as edge, and some times called gsm) is 2g. you can turn one or another off so the phone does not seek and connect to both services, which could save battery life. even though ive yet to see my phone find less than 3g/4g in houston, i still dont turn it off, just in case.
The Jack of Clubs said:
wcdma and cdma have nothing to do with each other. wcdma is also known as umts, the base part of 3g (and 4g when hspa+). hspa is a protocol that runs on top of this cell technology providing higher data speeds. gprs (known as edge, and some times called gsm) is 2g. you can turn one or another off so the phone does not seek and connect to both services, which could save battery life. even though ive yet to see my phone find less than 3g/4g in houston, i still dont turn it off, just in case.
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Thanks, John Madden.
It seems that through flashing CM10 I somehow messed up my data connection, i am not back on a stock image and only receiving 1x speeds even tho i have 4G here at work every single day since i have received my phone.
Anyone think they could help?
Also, my Network is set as "Unknown" I do not have an ERI version, and my PRL is set to 0. I have a MEID and an IMEI tho.
Have you tried using the app "phone info" to change the network you are on LTE/CDMA/evdo or CDMA auto(PRL) , since it sounds like your IMEI is still there
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NeoMagus said:
Have you tried using the app "phone info" to change the network you are on LTE/CDMA/evdo or CDMA auto(PRL) , since it sounds like your IMEI is still there
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Yes i have, the only way it lets me be on 4G is if i have it set on "LTE only", if its on LTE/CDMA/evdo then it only does the 1x
Have you done the workaround?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29874815&postcount=1
1. Go into system settings->More...-> Mobile Networks -> CDMA Subscription. Change to NV.
2. Hit back button and then click airplane mode button on the menu. Wait for the connection disappear. Then uncheck airplane mode and wait for it to come back and give you an empty triangle for a connection
3. Go back to system settings->More...-> Mobile Networks -> CDMA Subscription. and change to RUIM. Repeat step 2 except you should actually have 3g or 4g now, depending on the build.
flipped cracker said:
Have you done the workaround?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29874815&postcount=1
1. Go into system settings->More...-> Mobile Networks -> CDMA Subscription. Change to NV.
2. Hit back button and then click airplane mode button on the menu. Wait for the connection disappear. Then uncheck airplane mode and wait for it to come back and give you an empty triangle for a connection
3. Go back to system settings->More...-> Mobile Networks -> CDMA Subscription. and change to RUIM. Repeat step 2 except you should actually have 3g or 4g now, depending on the build.
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Yes i have, still nothing
Once stock: dial this - *2767*3855#. Back up anything you may want on internal SD prior as it will be wiped.
Should fix your issue, hopefully.
Zalithian said:
Once stock: dial this - *2767*3855#. Back up anything you may want on internal SD prior as it will be wiped.
Should fix your issue, hopefully.
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That did it for me! Thanks so much :highfive: