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Received my replacement transformer the other day and thought it was OK on initial inspection, in a darkened room.
But actually, when you pump the brightness up to full, looking at a black screen (downloaded a black jpeg to test it as in the galley app the software buttons fade out so you get a true picture) it is actually no better than the one I sent back.
So my question is, using that system - black jpeg, full brightness, is there anyone out there who has no light bleed, particularly around the bottom left hand corner?
Cos if there is, it looks like this baby is going back to Comet for a second replacement, and if everyone has it, then I guess I will have to assume its a manufacturing 'feature' and just live with it.
Cheers for your help folks.
Sent from my Transformer using...... fingers.
Glad there is somebody know knows how to test a LCD light bleed properly.
I have the exact same issue. Maybe its part of the design.
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Check my post in the other light bleed thread. I'd be happy to explain more if you'd like: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13478882&postcount=111
I did everything you said, and see no light bleed in mine. I just got mine today.
I did everything you said, and see no light bleed in mine. I just got mine today.
Has anyone noticed a problem with going from manual brightness to auto, and it not auto adjusting?
No light bleed here.
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Zero light bleed for me as well.
at a very extreme angle i can see a little near the camera. doesn't bother me, i would have never noticed
markteacher said:
Received my replacement transformer the other day and thought it was OK on initial inspection, in a darkened room.
But actually, when you pump the brightness up to full, looking at a black screen (downloaded a black jpeg to test it as in the galley app the software buttons fade out so you get a true picture) it is actually no better than the one I sent back.
So my question is, using that system - black jpeg, full brightness, is there anyone out there who has no light bleed, particularly around the bottom left hand corner?
Cos if there is, it looks like this baby is going back to Comet for a second replacement, and if everyone has it, then I guess I will have to assume its a manufacturing 'feature' and just live with it.
Cheers for your help folks.
Sent from my Transformer using...... fingers.
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I mean... you went through all that to find a defect? I know that we all want the perfect device but how often will the light bleed actually affect us?
I think I also have light bleed but I had to tilt the damn thing to find it and it seemed perfectly fine before reading these posts.
Does it really bother you that much that you're even willing to go through the hassle of exchanging it?
I first noticed it when I booted the tablet with the lights out in the room. I don't have any issues in normal use and it doesn't bother me enough that I'd want to send it back.
I just got my 32GB. I didn't notice it during the daytime, but at night I do see a little towards the top. But not to the point where it bothers me.
Got a couple of small spots along the bottom that i could live with only noticeable if you have light off and brightness at full, one of the corners has quite bad bleed, can see it on darkish screens without even turning lights off or even down.
Considering whether to return it.
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I mean... you went through all that to find a defect? I know that we all want the perfect device but how often will the light bleed actually affect us?
I think I also have light bleed but I had to tilt the damn thing to find it and it seemed perfectly fine before reading these posts.
Does it really bother you that much that you're even willing to go through the hassle of exchanging it?
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'All that' is not really all that to be honest. I downloaded a black jpeg and looked at it whilst sat here watching the telly, took about 30 seconds in all to show up a significant level of light leaking in from the bottom corner.
If you have to tilt your unit to find any light then its not going to be a problem for you. On mine it casts a glow on the bottom corner when I am sat with it on my lap in a normal living room with the table lamp on.
For me there is nothing wrong with wanting a perfect device, I am pretty sure that's what I paid for. Had it not been perfect then Comet would have it marked as 'seconds, and would have charged me quite a bit less.
As it is, it arrived direct from the factory with this defect, and as I have said before, on a £100 cheapie off eBay I would probably put up with it, but not at 400 quid.
Add to this, unless Asus receives units back to their factory with these issues pointed out they will be unaware of the problem and have no incentive to tighten up their manufacturing process.
I don't know what is going on over in the US, but I do know they are far less accepting of poor service/goods than we are in the UK, and if these problems exist in units being shipped over there they will be flying back to Asus at a great rate of knots, and this is with the Us Transformer costing CONSIDERABLY less than it does over here.
If you have a good one, I am happy for you, and slightly envious of you. I wish I did.
On the blue boot screen or setting screen there is massive light bleeding on right and left side (about 2 inches wide). However, when there is an image on the screen it looks fine. Unfortunately I don't have a wireless connection at home so I haven't tried putting any movies or 'black' jpegs on the device for further testing; but will do so tomorrow. My hope is that when playing movies it looks fine and if so I won't worry about it. Screen has good fidelity; speakers seem decent and unit feels lighter than the acer/xoom. Also build doesn't seem that bad.
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So far only immediate reactions are: Why didn't amazon put something in the shipping box like bubble wrap and what the @!#)(* no charging light? Even my $10 cell phone has a charging light.
I asked Asus phone support. They said there should be NO light bleed. I said a couple of times that mine is very slight, from the lower left corner, and he repeated that there shouldn't be any at all and that I should get a replacement.
I'm requesting a replacement anyway as my compass is broken, hopefully I can get one into my local Comet store so I can see for myself first.
A picture, as they say, paints a thousand words.
(and just to rub salt in the wound, discovered the gap along the side of the screen mentioned in another thread! 'Hello, is that Comet? I have something I need to discuss.....')
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80pSCclf9Eg
Light bleed here as well
Just wanted to chime in and say I have it too. At first I didn't notice it because I had just got it.. but after a while I found my eye being drawn down to the edges where there was light bleeding through. Its an unwelcome distraction and this unite will no doubt be exchanged for another one.
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I did everything you said, and see no light bleed in mine. I just got mine today.
Has anyone noticed a problem with going from manual brightness to auto, and it not auto adjusting?
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Auto adjusting works when you turn the screen off then back on.
i feel all of you. One time I bought a car and one of the tire pressures was off by the time I got home. I took the car back to the dealer several times til they got the tire pressures right on all four tires. Took a month to get it right. The nerve of these manufacturers.
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i feel all of you. One time I bought a car and one of the tire pressures was off by the time I got home. I took the car back to the dealer several times til they got the tire pressures right on all four tires. Took a month to get it right. The nerve of these manufacturers.
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No, this is more like buying a new car and your car doors or windows not shutting fully.
I purchased my first tf700 from Newegg 5 or 6 weeks ago. The build was excellent. No screen separation issues and little light bleed. I ended up RMAing the device due to a weird screen issue where it was randomly tapping/swiping by itself every now and then.
I just received my new device which has an 80 serial number, and the screen is separating. If you sight down the edge of the top you can see that it actually bows out quite a bit toward the middle, and it clicks when I press it. SO FRUSTRATING!
Newegg's RMA procedure is as painless as it can be for an online purchase, but I think I'll return this one for a refund and purchase from Best Buy so I don't have to spend the foreseeable future shipping Infinities back and forth.
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esoxx said:
I purchased my first tf700 from Newegg 5 or 6 weeks ago. The build was excellent. No screen separation issues and little light bleed. I ended up RMAing the device due to a weird screen issue where it was randomly tapping/swiping by itself every now and then.
I just received my new device which has an 80 serial number, and the screen is separating. If you sight down the edge of the top you can see that it actually bows out quite a bit toward the middle, and it clicks when I press it. SO FRUSTRATING!
Newegg's RMA procedure is as painless as it can be for an online purchase, but I think I'll return this one for a refund and purchase from Best Buy so I don't have to spend the foreseeable future shipping Infinities back and forth.
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I bought one off amazon everything was great, then the corner of the screen start to click when I picked it up. :/ it was so perfect..............................................................................
Guys, there are like a thousand threads on these same issues already here, each with perfect solutions for dealing with the situation should it arise. Must we have yet another negative TF700 thread? My 700 is perfect, and so are the majority of people's as well. Continuing to populate the forums with these types of threads though does nothing but scare away potential developers from wanting to shell out the cash to pick up one of these tabs and develop awesome roms for us!
I do not mean to sound rude, nor am I flaming, but please, mods lock this thread before it spirals into something worse.
I agree with theanarchist that this is the same thread that we've all seen. But I also don't think most peoples tabs Are perfect. Some (like me) are still trying to find a perfect one And some have just accepted what they have and have given up. Others (like you) managed to get a perfect one.
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Mine is perfect as well. My mother, my uncle, my best friend Craig, and my in laws have a perfect unit too. So when I see threads like this, it makes me wonder if people have an agenda.
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Mine is perfect as well. My mother, my uncle, my best friend Craig, and my in laws have a perfect unit too. So when I see threads like this, it makes me wonder if people have an agenda.
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Mine's not perfect, clicking near the hdmi port and you can click it from a good portion up towards the middle of the screen. I personally gave up on Asus, though hearing that there are people that have indeed perfect ones makes me wish I had exchanged it. I was hesitant because I had already returned a tf300 (screen issue) and then later the Prime that I had replaced the tf300 with. I had only returned the Prime to get the tf700, as I was pretty frustrated I couldn't get the gps to work EVEN with the dongle Asus sent me. I didn't have any wifi issues really nor any screen clicking issues with the Prime and though I like the infinity the screen clicking annoys me. Wondering if I should rma it directly to them, just don't want to get a different tab back or been in a worse situation as a result.
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Guys, there are like a thousand threads on these same issues already here, each with perfect solutions for dealing with the situation should it arise. Must we have yet another negative TF700 thread? My 700 is perfect, and so are the majority of people's as well. Continuing to populate the forums with these types of threads though does nothing but scare away potential developers from wanting to shell out the cash to pick up one of these tabs and develop awesome roms for us!
I do not mean to sound rude, nor am I flaming, but please, mods lock this thread before it spirals into something worse.
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There was an earlier thread that theorized that the build issues were being addressed in the more recently built devices. I posted to show that even with the more recent 80 serial number devices, the same issues are present on at least a percentage of tf700s.
I certainly have no agenda. I'm on my second Infinity, which will unfortunately also be going back. The first one had some extreme screen separation on the right hand side. It was an C06 serial number. The one I'm on now, my second is a C80 serial number. The screen is good, with just a slight clicking in one spot on the right hand side. I'd live with it. However the light leaking out onto the screen along the bottom and right side from the LEDs is very very noticible.
I won't give up. I really love everything about the TF700 except for the build quality issues that I have experienced. I think the OP has a valid point in saying that the issues are not fixed yet. When my second unit came, I was psyched to see the serial number on the box said C80. I was very disappointed that it too has issues.
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I think the screen seperation can be because of the humidity. Where do u live?
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I think the screen seperation can be because of the humidity. Where do u live?
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I don't think it's humidity. I live on the west coast of the US. Pretty dry here. I noticed a curve in the glass along the top of the screen as soon as I took it out of the box and removed the skin/wrapper. It's noticeably bowed out in the middle of that edge.
I just wanted to chime in to say that this is my 2nd C8. The 1st had a June build date and it came with the .22 firmware. I exchanged that one for this 2nd C8 which came with the .26 firmware and a 20120720 build date.
The 1st infinity had power and volume button issues and sharper than normal edges all around. I can't find anything wrong with the build on this second C8 other than the haptic feedback is set really low. (Does vibrate when power on)
I'm rooted and have the dmclient froze in titanium backup while I read up on NV flash. (Guarding against a forced OTA update) I made the mistake of applying the .30 OTA to soon last time.
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I just wanted to chime in to say that this is my 2nd C8. The 1st had a June build date and it came with the .22 firmware. I exchanged that one for this 2nd C8 which came with the .26 firmware and a 20120720 build date.
The 1st infinity had power and volume button issues and sharper than normal edges all around. I can't find anything wrong with the build on this second C8 other than the haptic feedback is set really low. (Does vibrate when power on)
I'm rooted and have the dmclient froze in titanium backup while I read up on NV flash. (Guarding against a forced OTA update) I made the mistake of applying the .30 OTA to soon last time.
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Glad to hear that. Hopefully, 3rd time will be the charm. I really do LOVE this tablet, I just want one that's solidly built and works.
Agreed. I don't see how humidity is going to affect Corning's Gorilla Glass 2. Seriously don't see this being a factor at all.
I suppose I am one of the luck ones as well, no discernable bleeding edge light and completely flat screen. Of course, I bought the 64GB model from BB online, and it already have .26 on it when it arrived.
I too just returned my c8 version today that suffered from light bleed, mushy/sticky power and volume buttons, separating screen which also had sharp 90 edges. The one I just picked up is a night and difference from the first one. This one is a c9 version and other than a little light bleed the construction is solid. It doesn't even appear to be the same tablet....its like the first one was a cheap knock off. Another thing I am noticing with this new one is that the speed of touch feedback is so much faster than the C8.
I did decide to purchase the extended warranty this time around...my experience with the prime has left me jaded and there is no way I'm going to be left holding a dud.
With that said, I suggest if possible to keep on returning them until you find a good one...they do exist!
If Asus can't be persistent with their perfection...Be persistent with the returns!
F me! Just noticed this one is creaking like an old rocking chair, its on the left side by the hdmi port.
Today, I swapped out my first C7 after owning it for a week and received a C8 as a replacement. It amazes me the differences between the two.
For my particular devices, the differences were:
C7 pros: The construction was very solid. I kept reading horror stories about screen lift, creaking, etc. and mine felt solid like a tank. No light bleed issues either.
C7 cons: It suffered from severe I/O issues. Trying to download something from the market would grind things to a halt until the download and install finished. The Browser lagged a bit as well........as did moving around the launcher or clearing items from the recents menu . I returned it because there was a spec of dust under the screen which just really bothered me.
C8 pros: It feels like they put better quality internals in this one! There have been none of the i/o issues, lag, or stutters. Everything is very responsive and snappy. From a software usability standpoint, this feels like a completely new device.
C8 cons: The physical build quality is definitely not as high as the first. There are spots around the edges of the glass that feel "squishy". There is also a bit more lightbeed but i would not call it bad by any means.
For now, I am going to keep the C8 because the performance difference alone is worth it. The minor physical build quality issues aren't bothering me enough yet to risk giving up the performance.
One trend I seem to have noticed after reading all these reviews is that the build date does not seem to have much correlation with physical build quality. However, it does seem that more recent models may be using higher quality internal components contributing to noticeable performance gain.
These are just my observations.
I notice a small (3mm x 3mm ) spotty blemish (four tiny dots arranged like the new windows icon) on the screen, probably in the actual LCD (cannot touch it).
It is only visible when the screen displays white.
I suppose this is a manufacturing defection. Anything else about the screen seems fine. quite solid build, except for negligible 0.5mm give on the left edge.
Anything else I should particularly check for? Shall I exchange it at bb?
There is really no anything else as big and as light as tf700, right?
Thanks.
Hello.
Not sure if we talking about same issue but I also have this white dot, almost like a dead pixel but it isn't. Its possible to be seen only when white background and easier to spot when viewing from side, not straight ahead.
I believe this is what is called hot pixel.
Bad thing about this is that I first had 1, then 2. Then I returned it. Asus said no problems. Now I have 4 and I am seriously considering to returing this. Just that I need my tablet for work and I know for Asus it takes over 2 weeks to consider what they would do.
Probably when not so hectic at work I will go and try returning again.
I have on right hand side some loosening. If I press the screen where is the volume buttons I can feel it moves. It is the only place of the tablet where this kind of movement can be spotted.
Yet 3 of the hot pixels are on the left side of the tablet. The newest one is close to middle but a bit more to right side.
I'll definitely return mine to Best Buy, but a bit debating whether I shall stick with tf700t after all.
Any clue whether there is any systematic difference between retailers / batches of s/n's ?
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Hello.
Not sure if we talking about same issue but I also have this white dot, almost like a dead pixel but it isn't. Its possible to be seen only when white background and easier to spot when viewing from side, not straight ahead.
I believe this is what is called hot pixel.
Bad thing about this is that I first had 1, then 2. Then I returned it. Asus said no problems. Now I have 4 and I am seriously considering to returing this. Just that I need my tablet for work and I know for Asus it takes over 2 weeks to consider what they would do.
Probably when not so hectic at work I will go and try returning again.
I have on right hand side some loosening. If I press the screen where is the volume buttons I can feel it moves. It is the only place of the tablet where this kind of movement can be spotted.
Yet 3 of the hot pixels are on the left side of the tablet. The newest one is close to middle but a bit more to right side.
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Hi there,
I would give an help to all the people that are waiting to buy a z3... I can imagine, reading all posts about production issues, that they are really demotivated to buy this smartphone, and maybe they will wait a month, a month an half, hoping that Sony will resolve all this issues. Well, I don't know if the problem is associated to the week of realization.... but, we can have a better idea if we put here the week, and if our z3 have problems of gaps, lines of lights from gaps, and other problems... I'll start with my product code:
(you can find the code on the little piece of sheet under the memory card)
14W36 - model D6603
Problems
- Glass is not centered ( gap on the all right side )
- line of light coming out from the right side
- light of the led notification coming out from the gap on the top left corner ( if the led is on of course)
Same batch/week, completely centered glass (as you have seen), screen light leaking from bottom left corner and led leaking like OP has said. Other than that it's all good, it seems.
Don't know if the model makes any difference or not bu mine is D6653.
Someone else who wants to share infos about his phone? Come on guys
14W34
No problem so far...
Out of four I have gone through, two had gaps, ironically the gap ones had no light leak lol. All are from different batches. Last was 14W40 (Gaps) and current one is 14W39 (No Gaps).
how big are the gaps you guys got? On mine I can stick the corner of a thin piece of paper on all sides. Would that be considered a gap? Its symmetrical overall. Mine is at 14W40
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how big are the gaps you guys got? On mine I can stick the corner of a thin piece of paper on all sides. Would that be considered a gap? Its symmetrical overall.
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No thats not a problem, that should be fine. When you can fit a postcard then its a problem aesthetically for me, because at that size it's very visible, this only generally happens if the screen is fit off centered.
I can share one information:
This is what happens if you read the internet too much. People tend not to praise the device they buy - because they are too busy being happy with them. People mostly post negative stuff - but that doesn't mean negative stuff is the only thing that happens...
It's good to be aware of potential issues, but if you read into it too much - you will get discouraged from buying any device.
Now about my device - no problems apart from a small light leak on the bottom left corner, but I can't consider that being a problem as it's only 3mm tall.
I checked every little bit of my phone, i haven't seen any bleeding light nor gap, So i'm not sure what everyones talking about, My model is D6603
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I checked every little bit of my phone, i haven't seen any bleeding light nor gap, So i'm not sure what everyones talking about, My model is D6603
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You got a good device enjoy.
Slight gap is normal, light leak is actually the backlight being seen thought the frame/LCD gap. The Sony rep for TMO said its a known issue (big gaps/lightbleed), not everyone but a significant amount are getting it, TMO apparently got dumped bad batch/es, quality control wise.
To anyone thinking of avoiding the device, please don't. Every manufacturer has production issues here and there, aka HTC One M7 purple cam issues, G3 back cracking near mic etc. As Akiainavas mentioned its mostly people with issues on forums complaining (like me), many with good devices won't go on to say how great it is as they are too busy enjoying.
All I am saying is check your device, and get a replacement one if it has defects.
With my current Z3, I am very happy love it as much as my LG G2.
So mine has a screen gap on right side but no light leak, im assuming if my gap was bigger it would be a defect?
So i was just browsing You Tube when I noticed that at the edge of my screen there was a yellowish tint to the white that it should be, so I brought up a completely white image on Google to find that 3 of the cormers had this yellow tint on them and in fact now that I have spotted it is quite noticable. I know the picture I've added is very poor so if you guys can't see it then I'll add another one. Anyone else experiencing this?
Image: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B23HaRU0Ru14bWtiODNvbDZHdkk/edit?usp=docslist_api
Usually that's the glue isn't it? Should vanish as you use the tablet, give it a week or so and if it is still there, take it back.
Well Ive had the tablet since it released so I think I might have to take it back
I've been noticing this lately as well. It started with the bottom left corner, and now it's also in the top right. It's rather distracting with light backgrounds.
Same thing after using the tablet for a month
You guys might just want to RMA your tablets. Although it's only an aesthetic issue, NVIDIA should allow replacements for that kind of thing. Is the tint extremely noticeable or only when there's a white background?
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You guys might just want to RMA your tablets. Although it's only an aesthetic issue, NVIDIA should allow replacements for that kind of thing. Is the tint extremely noticeable or only when there's a white background?
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No guy, i love my tablet soooooo much *_*. Just noticed i have the problem. That's not so unpleasant.
I have this issue as well. I'm going to RMA mine