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Hi guys, I am not sure if many of you have this problem, but the arrow keys on the bottom row is really a pain, as it is just below the space bar.
More often than not, when I try to tap the space bar, I tend to accidentally hit the arrow keys below it, causing T9 to change to an alternate word.
This has been very annoying to me. I have done some search and found quite a few complains from the others as well regarding this issue.
I personally find no use for the keys to be there. and I believe same goes to most of you HD2 users.
Can I please ask for some help from the expert around to create a tweak or maybe some step by step guide to remove the arrow keys from the bottom row of the keyboard, making the keyboard shorter.
This is something that I believe will help many of us out there. thanks for viewing.
Your help will be appreciated!
PS: I have tried finger keyboard, but it still have the arrow keys, and i am having some problem with the suggesting contact names. I really hope some one could just remove the arrow keys from the original keyboard, as it is really good aside from the arrow keys being there. Thanks Again!
leejiahui said:
hi guys, i am not sure if many of you have this problem, but the arrow keys on the bottom row is really a pain, as it is just below the space bar.
More often than not, when i try to tap the space bar, i tend to accidentally hit the arrow keys below it, causing t9 to change to an alternate word.
This has been very annoying to me. I have done some search and found quite a few complains from the others as well regarding this issue.
I personally find no use for the keys to be there. And i believe same goes to most of you hd2 users.
Can i please ask for some help from the expert around to create a tweak or maybe some step by step guide to remove the arrow keys from the bottom row of the keyboard, making the keyboard shorter.
This is something that i believe will help many of us out there. Thanks for viewing.
Your help will be appreciated!
Ps: I have tried finger keyboard, but it still have the arrow keys, and i am having some problem with the suggesting contact names. I really hope some one could just remove the arrow keys from the original keyboard, as it is really good aside from the arrow keys being there. Thanks again!
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amen too that!
I would also like to see this happen.
me also
Maybe something like the HD Mini, it has a button to switch between having the arrows and disabling them.
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Maybe something like the HD Mini, it has a button to switch between having the arrows and disabling them.
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ya maybe someone can port the hd mini keyboard for hd2
nirvanax said:
ya maybe someone can port the hd mini keyboard for hd2
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This would have the added bonus of freeing up more screen real estate. Or bigger buttons would be nice.
I would also love to see this happen.
The simple solution is for some third-party developer to design an alternative VK that finally utilizes the upgraded screen real-estate.
Android has tons of different keyboard layouts... developers just need to jump on-board with Windows Mobile.
Reignzone said:
The simple solution is for some third-party developer to design an alternative VK that finally utilizes the upgraded screen real-estate.
Android has tons of different keyboard layouts... developers just need to jump on-board with Windows Mobile.
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I hate the arrows as well... We need a project to start working on this
Hi me again. So has any expert programmer out there could please please help us out???
any guidelines would be good. Thanks!!
Search for Nikoan89 wvga keyboard v2.2. That has the function with arrows you want.. Its an old feature btw..
Correction. version 1 see to be better... Pressthe arrow button and magic happen on top of the kb..
Hi, Nikoan keyboard seems to be ideal, however after installing his WVGA cab, my HD2 wouldnt boot and was always stuck at the white screen with the HTC words. At 1 point I tot i have bricked my phone... coz i wasnt able to sync and re flash my rom. However i got it fixed in the end.
i too am looking for something like this as well as modifying the landscape SIP to put the cursor keys on the left side of the KB.
why?
cuz i have small hands/thumbs. if the cursors were on the left, there would be equal reach to the keyboard on both sides, unlike now where the right side is twice the length than the left due to the strip of hardware keys adding to the length of reach.
if someone could reorganize the stock (HTC) keyboard cursors:
1. in portrait: remove the row of cursors or place them along the TOP edge of the keyboard.
2. in landscape: move the column of cursors from the right to the left of the keyboard.
SPB and Resco charge $20-25 for their keyboard solutions. after trying both, i think they both suck and i'm glad i trialed them first.
therefore, i'm willing to pay/donate $25 to the first person who can meet both of my requested modifications without bugs.
I personally prefer those arrow keys to be there. Only because I find it annoying that when I type, and make a mistake, putting my blinking cursor-line right after the mistake only to hit backspace to delete the mistake, is annoying.
I just typed a mu|stake. ARGH! (Must put cursor between U and S in order to edit it. - Always a hit/miss)
Any tips?
Hey guys,
Just wanted to share an image with you of a keyboard project I'm working on for tablets. Currently all dev and testing is being done on my Galaxy Tab, but next week I'll start working on the xoom screensize port as well.
Info:A free basic multitouch keyboard for tablets, (a paid version with more features may come later, or I may just update the free version)
Features:
-Fast
-Word prediction
-Multitouch
-capability for multilanguage support (depends on interest I guess)
-FREE (My favorite words ever!)
How can you help?
Well as you can see there is some space in the middle of the screen, while I've still setup the keyboard with a seperate symbols keyboard (also tablet/thumb friendly) I'm wondering if there are some 'must have' buttons that should be put in the middle. My thoughts are they should be key's that are essential but not normally used, like arrow keys maybe? There's probably room for about 12 keys? So chime in and let me know.
How do I help not to clog up this thread
I don't need testers thanks. But if I do in the future I'll ask.
When is it coming out! I want it now!
As soon as it's ready, obviously it's mothers day this weekend so don't expect it until next week some time at the earliest.
Final info:
This is not the final theme, although it will be something along these lines probably.. I like a clean, minimalistic approach. Also in the second picture (the symbols) you can see the keys are slightly larger, I've also not decided on the final key size yet.
*Update*,
I've updated the attached pictures with the latest revision, and the initial sizing for the 10.1" Tablets. I've only speant a few minutes with the xoom, but being able to input text with both thumbs while holding it makes all the difference in the world.
*Update*, Portrait orientation fixed for 7 and 10" layout
*Update 05-12* I'm pretty happy where things are at right now with the 7" version. I just need to incorporate those changes into the 10.1" size and it should be basically ready. I've tweaked the sizing a bit since these latest screenshots now that I can put the xoom through more testing. I'll maybe add another couple of languages before release, if not everyone can work on those after. I've kept the additional keys in the space minimal, as I said before I like minimal.
hey that's pretty great. But instead of black is it possible to make the background translucence so as to see the content of the app.
a translucence background is a great idea
Will this require 2.2+?
I know you specified Galaxy Tabs, but I have been messing with a cmp738a craig tablet lately and this is exactly what I have been looking for.
Would be willing to test it if you are willing to add support.
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a translucence background is a great idea
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Hmmm. Maybe, first up though before I finalize the theme is the layout.. ill keep it in mind though, thanks for the suggestion
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I have played around with a Xoom for a while and this looks like a great replacement for the stock keyboard.
One thing I really miss on the Xoom is the ability to quickly write numbers by long pressing the alphabetic keys (secondary keys in general would be nice).
Frequently used keys in the middle seems great, a few symbol keys would fit nicely there. I find myself typing @ a lot, but other than I can't think of anything (except numbers) that I type often.
// A
Nice.
The screen res of the Galaxy tab is the same on my Nook running CM7 Gingerbread 2.3.4.
So I would like to help test if possible. This looks lime a nice project.
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How do I help not to clog up this thread
I don't need testers thanks. But if I do in the future I'll ask.
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12paq said:
Nice.
The screen res of the Galaxy tab is the same on my Nook running CM7 Gingerbread 2.3.4.
So I would like to help test if possible. This looks lime a nice project.
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thanks for the offer though
Portugal here, i can help with pt-PT translation
numbers
numbers in the middle would be very helpful and a .com thank u for this
What about the international characters? It would make no sense to limit your work to English language, especially in times of European Community. If possible, it should be more explicit than they Android standard one.
Perfect it was a customizable panel, on which we could put our preferred characters/smiles/etc
Looks nice. An @ button instead of an emoticon button might be used more in the default layout. Also, left and right arrow keys in case someone misspells a word & do not want to delete all letters or try to tap the exact space before the wrong letter.
How does it look like in potrait mode?
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Well its really designed for tablets and landscape mode.. on the todo list is portrait layout.
As for the @ sign and the number keys. They'll be setup on the symbols keyboard(as per the pic) and with long presses. Though honestly its faster to access them on the symbols keyboard than by long pressing.
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Reminds me this keyboard a lot.
a.) I wish it could look that good
b.) there's not way it'll have the same level of features.. well not 'no way', but not likely at all
Arrow Keys
Arrow keys are a must.
Initial concept looks pretty good. Things that stand out for me as a Xoom user with slightly more space:
Ability to swap between traditional and thumb layout
Arrow keys would be fantastic
Long press for secondary symbols much like GB keyboard.
Thanks for your efforts.
latest updates added. Thanks for all your feedback guys. A couple of notes.
this is for a tablet layout, the original layout will not be available to switch between, the portrait is fairly close to stock.
I haven't added in arrow keys as of yet, and don't think I will before release. In all my years with android I've never needed them so why add more clutter.
So I'm curious about looks vs. functionality
Each one of my little drawings here satisfy both.
First off, I apologize for being a retard and using cam scanner to make these images sideways (although they were right side up originally).
Seeing as I can't attach images directly from my phone onto this site, I had to email them to myself, download them and then re attach.
Also another retard thing, I made a home button (app) thing on both of them even though there is a physical one on the phone itself.
Have a look
Also clarify with me which is which (theme or ROM).
How hard is it to design/engineer this and actually have everything function properly?
Theme/ROM 1
Them/ROM
it looks like you want to pull the whole status bar to the bottom of your phone. i didnt think you could just move that stuff around. a Dev would would be able to give u a yes or no.
im leaning more towards a theme than a Rom. but you can only theme what the Rom has. and NO rom has that, that i know of. so its like a combination of both.
Those drawings appear to be a significant layout overhaul, a la Sense and Touchwiz
It would either be:
1) a full-blown ROM
2) A replacement for a number of system apps (but could be an add-on), at the very least the launcher and probably the lockscreen
More than just basic theming, that's for sure.
Well it certainly gives the phone a neater, "in my opinion more efficient" functionality.
The one with the radial app dial, that spins, (you guys probably could tell that already) can fit either 7 or 8 apps.
When you press the home button the phone app automatically aligns directly above the said home button (non physical assuming there are 7 apps not 8).
The apps that go on the radial thing-a-ma-jig are your primary apps.
However since that non-physical home button is not needed, then the phone would be in the center or perhaps you'd like the browser.
In any case whichever app you use most extensively (ie #1).
I certainly cannot do any of the ROM creating but I was hoping to spark interest with the ones who are able to do so with ease.
The one with the triangle side bars (next image) these have 1-3 icons on them, when you tap that icon the first time a box will come up over lapping everything else in the background (or with slight opacity) and that gives you more detail rather than just an icon.
I think it would be neat as hell if this was done.
So is it like, theme = aesthetics ; rom = function
In this case I'd like to do both.
Also the capability to assign any app in that 7-8 slot (radial) would also be nice.
Perhaps done through the command prompt.
This is a feature I picked up from a blackberry (ability to assign any icon to a specific design/theme).
Thanks for the interest, I'm going to try and fix the orientation.
Some of what you're looking to do (the home-dial concept) may be doable without any ROM development at all - after all, plenty of launchers are installable as apps and what you're describing there is a launcher concept.
Notification bar moving could be a lot harder though.
FYI I'm a kernel guy not an app developer, so I can't help you much other than say that I'm fairly certain one of the features you want to implement can be done as a launcher app for any ROM.
Alright alright, we're sifting through sonething here.
I have very little knowledge od 'kernel' 'launchable' 'rom' as far as developing them goes. Are there tutorials ? (search bar probably)
Thanks for your contributions
What about color (borders keys etc)
Nice drawings man
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Hey thanks DevilDogAK
It's one thing to draw the idea by hand but to actually create it with code...
That's where the tires hit the road one might say.
I need to do some reading to get an idea of what I have to accomplish.
Thanks for the interest, as always it starts with a dream
I'll let you guys know whats up when I actually get to the point of dev
But team work goes a long way (hint hint hint)
sweet... great concept imo, & hey, cyanogen started with just a concept. wish i knew more to help you out, but we're with you in spirit nice drawings too lol
from Sams inFuse... inFused GB
About the launcher comment, does having two mean more computing power needed to run the first and second launcher or can I just do one primary launcher?
If I can just move things around, what about putting some notification components under the wheel? Components such as the wifi toggle and the data image or perhaps the data and battery.
Anyone smart enough to do that probably isn't dicking around on XDA. You never know though.
Well... I'm here
Haha just kidding, I do wish somebody with some experience knowledge (ie developer of Serendipity etc... ) a man can dream... a man can dream.
I would love to offer any help I can to make this mod a reality. So far, I have gathered the following links that will surely be helpful in making this mod.
There are many users on the different individual rom threads, especially in senseless and aosp/cm9 roms, who are requesting to install HTC_IME (Touch Input), as it is the best input option around for some languages. I can attest firsthand to the fact that the Chinese handwriting input is by far the best handwriting input available for android (HTC is a Taiwanese company), so please don't suggest that everyone who wants htc_ime just go and download some other keyboard. They really did a good job with it, and people want to use it on AOSP!
The work done so far:
Jonas made the mod for gingerbread and devices with lower resolution screens. There is a lot of information about it here and links to downloads. It works on non-htc android devices.
http://www.linux-wizard.net/2011/02...c-ime-keyboard-under-a-non-htc-android-phone/
Original HTC_IME mod thread by jonas. The last page or so of the thread is full of posts of people saying please make this mod for ICS/qhd. So far, no one has done it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624416
This is a HTC_CIME mod for qvga screens. You can see in the screens that it works on MIUI and with multi-language support. This seems like a very good lead, as it may possibly work on our device if scaled up!
http://www.miui.com/thread-109295-1-1.html
A way to get touch input back into virtuous inqusition rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1462460&highlight=with+libs
And finally, from our very own device theme forum, there is of course the package done by MichaelM. I think this is going to be our best shot at getting this working in aosp roms. I triead flashing the file "with libs" (should include multi-lang) on Vorbeth's rom, but it just continuously FCs with u select touch input (but touch input does show up!).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1384640
As I said, I am willing to learn as much as I need to to help make this mod, I just need someone with a bit more experience than me to offer some help! Can someone please give even a brief overview of how to do this. Do we need to run logcats to find out lib dependencies? I'm sure the whole process can't be all that difficult (well, one can hope!).
Thank you in advance, sensation community!
p.s. if I forgot to give credit to anyone else who has done work on htc_ime mod please forgive me. Post the info in this thread if you find it so we can get this going!
2 things, 1, I would love to see this mod happen, I've gotten used to the ics keyboard but would still love the HTC one. 2, if possible, the latest HTC_IME keyboard would be best in my opinion because I love the swipe gestures that you can turn on and off without actually using the Swype keyboard because the Swype keyboard isn't something I am entirely fond of anymore
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2 things, 1, I would love to see this mod happen, I've gotten used to the ics keyboard but would still love the HTC one. 2, if possible, the latest HTC_IME keyboard would be best in my opinion because I love the swipe gestures that you can turn on and off without actually using the Swype keyboard because the Swype keyboard isn't something I am entirely fond of anymore
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latest is usually best! sounds good to me.
I would love to see that... I am starting to like CM9, but the keyboard just isn't good enough no matter which one I try... I will try gimpsta.com to create one and hopefully will have it working
good luck to you, sir!
BUMP! I really wanna see this happen too! But maybe we are looking at it from the wrong angle? I'm no dev, not in the slightest, but the HTC_IME that comes on the stock sensation is already qHD formatted. Would it be possible/easier to port jonasl's mods to the newer HTC_IME rather than trying to scale up the old one and fix it to run on ICS?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1844512
a MOD for HTC IME on QHD resolution is out.
Now all we need to do is to put CIME back to it.
Hi at all!
My request is if it's possible to have a mod that enables onscreen buttons (better if resizable) and disable the soft keys of our one s!
I have to do this request because some people have an issue with soft keys of the one s that interference with gsm antenna and this will be a nice workaround for that, until the official htc radio bug fix.
Here you can find the thread about the issue and there is also a spreasheet to collect signature of the issue. (we are about 150 till now)
Thanks at all, that will take us and help!
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Hi at all!
My request is if it's possible to have a mod that enables onscreen buttons (better if resizable) and disable the soft keys of our one s!
I have to do this request because some people have an issue with soft keys of the one s that interference with gsm antenna and this will be a nice workaround for that, until the official htc radio bug fix.
Here you can find the thread about the issue and there is also a spreasheet to collect signature of the issue. (we are about 150 till now)
Thanks at all, that will take us and help!
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Check Button Saviour - the Pro variant costs only little money and lets you remap the original buttons. Maybe you can disable the buttons too. I am not going to test this as i was using it with my HD2 already and i hated these artificial buttons. I want the real ones to work, but if it helps you, you could always try.
thanks!
but i was thinking about the ics onscreen button like gnexus because they are more integrated in the system.
masca88 said:
thanks!
but i was thinking about the ics onscreen button like gnexus because they are more integrated in the system.
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So, like porting that from the Gnex onto the One S?
But that's kinda hard i think because we have sense on top of Android and that'd mess with it pretty much. Dunno, maybe som Dev has an idea then.
Probably easier to achieve on an ICS only ROM.
Capazitive Buttons
I've looked around a bit with something in the XDA thread CM9 found something interesting, it's there to change the layout / function of the capacitive buttons.
my intention is to find a Workaround regarding this Touch Button Issue
at least I've played around with some of the offered file and I have managed the home and the back button to swap.
This doesnt fix the problem but it makes it a little more tolerable, you can feel the still wriggling in the haptic feedback but the screen just does not jump back and forth., At least a little workaround until there is an update to it.
anyone who feels it can test it out, if necessary, please improve, I'm not the Hero in such Things :cyclops:.
the files can simply be flashed in the recovery.
please excuse my cruel English, it mostly came out of Google Translator
EDIT: it does not work on CM9 ROM !
will it work on Trickdroid?
I will test if it will
will it work on Trickdroid?
i've testet it on Energy Rom, on CM9 it endet in a Boot-loop, so i suspect it will work on stock based Roms.
works on trickdroid. Testing... thnx, btw =)
now it goes back from time to time. Is it possible to put back action to back button, make Recent apps button work like Home and disable Home button?
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anyone who feels it can test it out, if necessary, please improve, I'm not the Hero in such Things :cyclops:.
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You can try it yourself, just edit the cy8c-touchkey.kl withe an Edior like Notepad++
I've figured it out by playing around and this has cost me a few restarts. I'm really not an expert.
i've just figured out how to disable the Home Button, as compensation i use Button Savior
I know it is a crude Workaround, but it helps me to maintain the Hope for a soon Update..
however, for the Moment no more wriggling :victory:
the File can by flashed easy in the Recovery and should work on stock based Roms, NOT on CM9!
Very good. I'm now going to learn from your file
Thank you ;-)
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