Anyone seen anything about eta on 3g enabled transformers?
Decided on getting one quite a while ago, but I need a enabled 3g tablet.
Initially it was supposed to come out around 1-3 months after wifi (April 6) and be everywhere around June/July.
Also, 3g will only be for the 64gb model and cost $699 in USA and 699 euros in Europe.
I hope they release it by late June at least , in India :S
Didn't know it was only the 64gb version getting 3g :/, that really sucks. I was hoping for a 32gb version.
But I don't see many alternatives to the transformer I want either. If another one came out that was both price competetive, comparable in hardware, and had honeycomb, I'd consider it. But right now the only 3g tablet being sold and easily accessable to me in norway is the xoom. And that seems far too expensive, for something not that spectacular. :/
Whats wrong with the wifi model and tethering to a smartphone when you want internet access, away from your home network?
I can use the same setup to my laptop, and it's an extra step. I've noticed it reduces the amount of times I check something on the laptop, because it's an extra thing to do.
"Just checking something" is a lot more work when I need to pull up the phone, go through 2-3 menu's. Pull up and refresh the wireless until the androidap shows up, connect. And then I'm ready to go.
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I'm new to Android and picked up a G Tablet have a question on if you can use the USB for a Verizon Wirelss card.
I was wondering this also. Does anyone know if this is possible? I have to admint that I have not searched too much as I just took my G tablet out of the box and my Verizon card is sitting here and I was thinking 'wonder if I can make that work"???
I remember seeing in a few other threads that people weren't able to get a 3G card to work. Not sure about this particular Verizon card though.
The usb wireless dongle wont work. You would need something like mifi.
There is a thread in development on this I think. He was working on it but put it on hold.
Found the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935810
ketjr81 is correct. Unless you have a Huawei card you have almost no chance of it working at the moment. I have discontinued development as I mentioned in the thread referenced. If you want, you can spend 70 dollars or so and get a wireless hotspot that uses the USB dongle and a battery for 5+ devices.
I picked up a Verizon MiFi Hotspot today... figured that it was a good investment, that way I can use it for my laptop, GTab, and anything else I find myself in need of connecting. It will connect up to 5 devices at a time. I looked at the Sprint and Virgin Mobile models too.
The Sprint model actually has 4G and GPS capability, and the plan looked good on paper; the same price as the Verizon for 5GB ($60/month), plus unlimited 4G downloading. However, when I looked at the coverage map, Sprint doesn't have anywhere near the coverage area that Verizon does, and there are only a handfull of 4G towers out there.
Then I looked at Virgin Mobile. Seemed like a great deal; they use the same hotspot device that Verizon does (and Sprint used to), and you don't have to commit to a contract. You buy the device for something like $160, and for $40/month you get unlimited 3G downloading through the Sprint network. I headed out today to get one, only to find out that as of next week, Virgin will be capping monthly downloads to 5GB like the rest of them. After 5GB, data will slow to a crawl.
Then I found out that Verizon is offering new data plan options for a limited time, starting this weekend I think. There are monthly plans for 1GB ($20) , 3GB ($35), 5GB ($50), and 10GB ($80). For every GB you go over your plan, you pay an extra $10. The hotspot is free with a 2-year plan, or $70 with a 1-year plan. I went with a 3GB plan, even it I get up to 5GB one month that's still gonna run me less than the Sprint plan.
So I brought one home, had it set up pretty quick (it took longer to run the updates than to set it up), and it works great. The hotspot is smaller than I thought it would be, even after looking at the pictures. About as wide as a business card, a little taller, and a bit over 1/4" thick. Best thing is, I'll be able to use it with any tablet I get my hands on as long as it has WiFi, plus my laptop and even my iPhone if find myself in the boondocks again where AT&T doesn't reach.
MiFi is the way to go with a GTab; just turn it on, put it back in your pocket or bag, and surf away.
I'm surprised more people don't just tether their G-Tabs from their cell phone data plans. I've got a Verizon Eris (about a year old) and it's modded, with wireless tether. I pay $30 a month for unlimited data (on the phone, of course, but they don't know I'm tethering, nor do they probably care since I don't actually download much data).
It's fast and cheap.
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I'm surprised more people don't just tether their G-Tabs from their cell phone data plans. I've got a Verizon Eris (about a year old) and it's modded, with wireless tether. I pay $30 a month for unlimited data (on the phone, of course, but they don't know I'm tethering, nor do they probably care since I don't actually download much data).
It's fast and cheap.
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I use Wireless hotspot on my Rooted Sprint Evo
Just a comment....
Most of us don't take the wireless mifis, etc. serious because of the limits.
My tablets, laptops and computers -- yes, I have a bunch -- usually result in my downloading a month's worth of wireless limits in a night. I have several programs that the updates run in the GBs just for one program.
I'm happy for people that can use them, but I always warn them to watch the usage and avoid the overages.
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I am using my Virgin Mobile USB (Walmart special) plugged into the Cradlepoint. Lasts about 2 hours and warms the pocket...
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I'm surprised more people don't just tether their G-Tabs from their cell phone data plans. I've got a Verizon Eris (about a year old) and it's modded, with wireless tether. I pay $30 a month for unlimited data (on the phone, of course, but they don't know I'm tethering, nor do they probably care since I don't actually download much data).
It's fast and cheap.
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You and many other people say that. I personally don't want to kill my phone's battery and its just more work to turn the hotspot on and off every time I want access on the tab. Its surely cheaper, but not faster.
I currently have a 4G Verizon xyboard that is going back to Motorola for the 2nd time in 2 weeks. Bought it the end of March. You guessed it - I'm not happy with the quality since this will be the second repair and it's not like I've thrown it around. On the other hand, I love the 8.2 size and when it works, it's a nice tablet. But that's the hitch "when it works", which is not a lot these days.
It started with charging and lockup issues which were repaired, and now it won't stay connected either to wifi or VZW on a consistent basis (as in, sit in one place, get connected with good signal, don't move, wait 2 minutes, lose signal). And since I bought it because of the VZW coverage, I'm paying for a data plan I can't even use.
So, I'm getting prepared here - if by some chance, mine fails a third time, I'm changing xooms. Given the love that the original Xoom still has on here and from Google, I'm going to try and get a model that will upgrade, which probably means ebay or craigslist even though mine should still be covered under warranty.
Which xoom do I want - I see version numbers all over the place and I'm confused. For example, I think there was a thread about the 'original' 3G xoom being upgraded to 4G through Motorola? So which model is/was that? If you have one of those models, does the 3G/4G service work well for you? Is there a different model I should look for?
Thanks in advance - any useful advice would be appreciated!
Dear all
Couldn't find a DV8P forum section as yet.
I have the wwan (3G/HSDPA) version of the DV8P (brilliant device) but Dell have locked it to o2 and I use ee.
Does anyone know how I can remove the carrier lock given that it is not tied to carrier contract. Dell have said they don't knowhow too and have never had a request before???
The wwan card is a sierra wireless card which is branded as the Dell Wireless 5570e HSPA+ (42Mbps) Mobile Broadband Card.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Matthew
Hi,
I don't have DVP8, but I'm a little bit familiar with how most laptops wireless card works. (The WWAN card used on Dell VP8 is the same one used on Precision/Latitude Laptop)
Typically those WWAN cards (Especially GSM with simcard slot) are not locked, but the provided windows software does not support provider other the one it's bundled to (in this case O2),
So are you sure if your card is really locked?
I'd try the Connection Manager program that comes with the Latitude series http://www.dell.com/support/drivers...leId=3336416242&languageCode=en&categoryId=CM. You might need to bypass the model check in order for it to install.
Side question, is the DVP8 WWAN card removable by user? I'm curious whether the Wifi model can be upgraded to 3g enabled.
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Side question, is the DVP8 WWAN card removable by user? I'm curious whether the Wifi model can be upgraded to 3g enabled.
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Assuming that Dell doesn't have different hardware layouts for different countries... my US Wifi module can't be 3g enabled... or at least, not without some serious soldering skills.
You can see where the slot would be, if it was soldered on.
Also, I don't know for sure, but it looks like it might be an m.2 slot instead of the mini pcie standard. Or the WWAN module might be soldered directly onto the mainboard, although there seems to be a spot to for a screw to hold the module in, so...
Now if Dell would only release the WWAN US version tablet... feels like I've been waiting forever.
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I have the wwan (3G/HSDPA) version of the DV8P (brilliant device) but Dell have locked it to o2 and I use ee.
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You might also want to try setting up a dial up connection using the correct settings for your ISP, if a connection manager for your cellular provider doesn't exist. As WhizzWr said, the only locks on laptop cards are usually software based, or maybe profile/firmware based (such as Gobi cards that support multiple networks with different profiles).
I see. So apart from the lack of sim card slot, no place to add any expansion card, either.
I just googled a bit and some rep from Dell forum seems to confirm our finding: Wifi model is not upgradeable to 3G/LTE.
http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/mobile-devices/f/4586/p/19528733/20480210.aspx#20480210
That's too bad but considering the price difference between WIfi and 3G model, I'm okay with tethering
Thanks WhizzWR and Jackfrost7
It was a software thing.
It would only show telefonica as the available connection.
Uninstalled the driver and re-installed and it suddenly started showing an ee connection; took a few connection attempts before it seemed to work and now no more tethering!
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
Matthew
the_biochemist said:
Thanks WhizzWR and Jackfrost7
It was a software thing.
It would only show telefonica as the available connection.
Uninstalled the driver and re-installed and it suddenly started showing an ee connection; took a few connection attempts before it seemed to work and now no more tethering!
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
Matthew
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Glad you sorted it out!:thumbup:
Did you get the DVP8 direct from Dell UK? Mind giving us some price figure?
Yes - it was strange as I had been looking at it for ages on the 'for work' area but it had a lead time towards the end of March but suddenly dropped to 2 days so I went for it.
The price with no extras was:
Device £319
Shipping £5
VAT £64.80
Total £388.80
Not sure if the offer is still on at the moment it was when I ordered on the 24th Jan.
Ah thanks, I also have checked the Dell UK business website, the offer is still going on.
Aside from the fact I'm not in UK, I think extra £100 for WWAN card is a bit steep
So I planned to get a wifi only model soon.
But I also think DVP8 with always on internet is damn sweet.
I must admit the extra form the card is a little steep but having used tethering on my htc one for a couple of days till you helped me work out my issue drove me mad as it is nigh on impossible to cope with calls for work, tethering and general phone use without additional phone charges throughout the day.
It is a cost benefit question though.
It really is a brilliant tablet - was a little unsure about windows tablets, having memories of old atom netbook performance, but even have visual studio working on it not much slower than my i5 laptop.
So I've been waiting to get internet at my apartment, and have been using my one m8 tethered as home internet (thanks to the help on this forum getting a ROM running on it that lets me use the mobile hotspot).
Its working great. However, i'm at 120GB with 5 days to go. Being that this would be, under most carrier plans, an insane amount of data... I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with this. I definitely haven't seen any throttling or slowdown. Runs PS4 games, streaming, whatever. I was actually at 60GB 5 days into the month and have made a concereted effort to slow down lol, otherwise I might be in the 300-400GB range. That said, it really isn't too bad.
I actually just ordered time warner cable for $40/mo, so I guess I'm moving on anyway. But I'm curious if anyone has been doing this for an extended period and if Verizon ever made a stink.
Someone I know does. He canceled all wired tv, phone, & internet service to his home and has been using his verizon S4 for it all for over a year now. He's on the old unlimited data plan. It is apparently working well for him but he had to get a special wifi card for his PC to use the hotspot from the phone. He uses a wifi capable "smart" bluray player to get all his TV programming from youtube, netflix, and amazon prime. He said it was a learning curve to find all the tv programming he used to watch on cable but he has been able to get it all, albeit, at a later release date then the mainstream networks' prime time debuts.
I do it, but with T-Mobile.
Just one thing though....constant wifi tethering will destroy your phone. Specifically the battery, but all that heat and energy use can't be good for the rest of it either. I ruined 2 batteries on my Galaxy Light in less than a year. Ruined 2 Motorola Razr Maxxes this way too. You don't want to be doing this with a phone like the M8 that is practically impossible to repair.
If you choose to go this route, pick up a cheap (rootable, obviously) phone with a removable battery, like a Galaxy S3 to use as your "home" phone.
The S4 is better then the S3 in that regard because it supports that newer faster LTE (aws?), the wifi hardware is quite a bit more advanced (faster), and the repairs (if ever necessary) are easier. Wifi tether does use a lot of power but you'll be plugged in for that most of the time, especially at home. The circuitry holds up just fine in the S4 as long as you're not aggravating the situation with over-volting / over-clocking.
I had been using my old Droid 4 as a home gateway/router before I got the One working. Perhaps I could just use that as my home router.. it worked well enough but would cut out occasionally (annoying during games... the One doesn't do that). If anything the Droid 4 seemed to have a stronger wifi signal when it worked though... better range, just as fast as the M8.
Do you know how much data your friend goes through?
The Droid 4 does/did get really hot while tethering. To the point I'd usually rest it on a cold can of soda or something while using it, lol. The One doesn't get nearly as hot.
Keep in mind that the power consumption and heat generation of the screen still dwarfs that of the wifi module. While using the phone as a home internet gateway the screen will likely be off most of the time.
I don't know about his data useage quantity but he's almost always got something streaming video of some kind. Its probably not ideal for serious gaming because the signal does drop out from time to time. Toggling airplane mode on and off again reestablishes a full-speed connection pretty quick but it would be disruptive in a game.
well. my signal on the One hasn't dropped and I've been logging a lot of Destiny this month. Sometimes you'll get a little lag but it isn't bad.
Just saw that VZW is hiking unlimited prices $20/mo... wonder if that'll get challenged by the FCC (like throttling etc): http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/08/tec...ted-plan-increase/index.html?iid=hp-stack-dom
I have old UDP and use my phone hotspot to devices it in my motorhome. All was good until 2 months ago when I used 50-60gb and they throttled me since. No 4g at all from home tower. get 4g elsewhere .
How do I approach customer service to get un-throttled? New reports say they are not throttling anymore.
Thanks.
Try cycling airplane mode on/off to reestablish a 4G data connection.
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Try cycling airplane mode on/off to reestablish a 4G data connection.
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Tried that 50 million times. She a no work! Others get 4g at my place not me.
This is my SOLUTION
Verizon 4G LTE Broadband Router With Voice
Works like a charm.
Born<ICs said:
I have old UDP and use my phone hotspot to devices it in my motorhome. All was good until 2 months ago when I used 50-60gb and they throttled me since. No 4g at all from home tower. get 4g elsewhere .
How do I approach customer service to get un-throttled? New reports say they are not throttling anymore.
Thanks.
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i would just call them and explain your problem as you have here, and leave out the throttle part.
back up your data firs, they will likely have you factory reset at some point.
it could be a problem with your phone, or a problem with the towers in your area. they will determine which.
its very unlikely they are throttling. they wouldnt reduce the 4g signal output on an entire tower to do it, and they are actually prohibited from doing it by the fcc.
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i would just call them and explain your problem as you have here, and leave out the throttle part.
back up your data firs, they will likely have you factory reset at some point.
it could be a problem with your phone, or a problem with the towers in your area. they will determine which.
its very unlikely they are throttling. they wouldnt reduce the 4g signal output on an entire tower to do it, and they are actually prohibited from doing it by the fcc.
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Thank you. Ended up swapping Sim then got consistent signal a few days later. No idea what they did on their end. Swapped Sim to 6P and all is good now.
I did this when I was doing my internship. I mainly just streamed Netflix and only hit 256GB that month. There was a time Verizon was throttling my data even though they wouldn't admit it until I eventually got transferred to an engineer . None of their support tiers could answer my questions and kept telling me they didn't have the capability to throttle so the problem is my fault. I somehow eventually talked to an engineer at Verizon and the engineer didn't directly admit it but rather, he implied that they do have that capability and the support techs were lying. One tech blamed "tower service in the area" and another tech blamed the unlocked bootloader on my 2013 Moto X DEV for causing the connectivity issues even though I was running the stock ROM and even restored everything back to stock prior to calling. Hahaha.. The funny thing is that the connection went back to normal directly after that call ended. Weird how that works....
Until about last year, I trusted Android...
Then my mum bought me a present, a cheap Allview P7 Pro. Phone was looking fine, it was supposed to be Dual Mode 4G (FDD-LTE and TDD-LTE), Dual Sim as my old Allview V1 Viper...
She bought it in Romania and managed to send it to me in UK. Unpacked, plugged in both sim cards (Romanian Digi and UK Three). Been negatively impressed of the new interface looks, those devs really like to completely change interface from build to build, but it was very white-ish and I am a night person...
Impossible tethering. At the time, if I remember well, P7 Pro had Lollipop running, though now gsmarena says it's Marshmallow.
The phone was actually creating the wireless connection, but it was no tethering on it, as I presumed it was actually trying to tether internet from the Digi sim (which was disabled) instead of the one from the Three sim (which was enabled). I couldn't believe my eyes, there was no way to get tethering to work.
Then I just unmounted the Digi card and left just the Three. Finally tethering was working. But hey, we use dual sim phones for a reason.
Anyway, I've seen there were problems with connection. Even deep in the night towards morning when finally Three was working in the remote Highlands... (One of our colleagues had a Utok 400D, and I still think about buying that as a modem, he was shaming us with his phone, his girlfriend streaming a movie and he playing a game on the same connection during daytime, which was impossible for everyone else, but gladly I'm no longer there).
So I tried to download a movie. After about 2-3 minutes of download, it was actually going to stop. Pretty funny, Internet Download Manager, which didn't ever have any problem, before, or after that night, was becoming blocked into a "Connecting"/"Sending GET..." endless loop. Stop & resume. Did that more than 100 times in about 3 hours. Downloaded the movie, however, but I was determined to get rid of the phone. Packed the sims back on my old Allview V1 Viper, which I still use today and managed to sell the brand new P7 Pro...
Now I'd like to buy a new phone, but I'm really scared.
I don't know what's out there, I don't know how much devs possibly screwed Android builds, I don't wanna end with a defective flagship because some mofos talked to some networks in order to screw users tethering.
I still don't have good wireless in this location, but Three works very well. Still, I need to know which Android versions are to be trusted at least on this aspect of tethering.
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Until about last year, I trusted Android...
Then my mum bought me a present, a cheap Allview P7 Pro. Phone was looking fine, it was supposed to be Dual Mode 4G (FDD-LTE and TDD-LTE), Dual Sim as my old Allview V1 Viper...
She bought it in Romania and managed to send it to me in UK. Unpacked, plugged in both sim cards (Romanian Digi and UK Three). Been negatively impressed of the new interface looks, those devs really like to completely change interface from build to build, but it was very white-ish and I am a night person...
Impossible tethering. At the time, if I remember well, P7 Pro had Lollipop running, though now gsmarena says it's Marshmallow.
The phone was actually creating the wireless connection, but it was no tethering on it, as I presumed it was actually trying to tether internet from the Digi sim (which was disabled) instead of the one from the Three sim (which was enabled). I couldn't believe my eyes, there was no way to get tethering to work.
Then I just unmounted the Digi card and left just the Three. Finally tethering was working. But hey, we use dual sim phones for a reason.
Anyway, I've seen there were problems with connection. Even deep in the night towards morning when finally Three was working in the remote Highlands... (One of our colleagues had a Utok 400D, and I still think about buying that as a modem, he was shaming us with his phone, his girlfriend streaming a movie and he playing a game on the same connection during daytime, which was impossible for everyone else, but gladly I'm no longer there).
So I tried to download a movie. After about 2-3 minutes of download, it was actually going to stop. Pretty funny, Internet Download Manager, which didn't ever have any problem, before, or after that night, was becoming blocked into a "Connecting"/"Sending GET..." endless loop. Stop & resume. Did that more than 100 times in about 3 hours. Downloaded the movie, however, but I was determined to get rid of the phone. Packed the sims back on my old Allview V1 Viper, which I still use today and managed to sell the brand new P7 Pro...
Now I'd like to buy a new phone, but I'm really scared.
I don't know what's out there, I don't know how much devs possibly screwed Android builds, I don't wanna end with a defective flagship because some mofos talked to some networks in order to screw users tethering.
I still don't have good wireless in this location, but Three works very well. Still, I need to know which Android versions are to be trusted at least on this aspect of tethering.
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I think that would be more of an issue of the network involved instead of the device or android version.
Tethering should not be a problem if you root the device though. There is usually a mod or an app of some sort that can be used to enable hotspot/tethering on pretty much every device.
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I think that would be more of an issue of the network involved instead of the device or android version.
Tethering should not be a problem if you root the device though. There is usually a mod or an app of some sort that can be used to enable hotspot/tethering on pretty much every device.
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Still, my old Viper V1 never had a problem to tether, it never needed root for that (I rooted it because I believed at some point the speeds were too low for that to be the network's fault, believed it to be a policy thing, but Three in Highlands is 2G basically).
I was 100% convinced it was a Lollipop bug, that some developer addressed a wrong object, trying to get the internet from a wrong sim. I could not swap the sims, cause they were different sizes, however it could tether when only the Three sim was physically inserted in the phone. Still, there was the other bug, connection not actually working after a few minutes.
I mean the surprise was too much. You don't expect that kinda issue with a brand new phone and a supposedly newer version of Android. (I remember when Ice Cream Sandwich came out, I couldn't even find the internet settings, in 5 minutes I was flashing back Gingerbread, but Gingerbread was working fine on my Galaxy S at the time). Hate those interface changes they dish out on every new version.
Still, my question is: are the new versions having the same Lollipop bug on dual sim phones ? Can I safely buy a new phone now ?