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4G Off :D

battery is ALOT better without 4G. I came from an EVO and its the same thing...just keep it off and we'll be good. its not necessary to have it on at all times, especially when you're in areas where theres no 4g or on the edge of it and it keeps jumping from 1x-3g-4g. I know the dialing method is going around here but i found a better way...not exactly a "widget" but better than dialing.
Instructions
"1. Download an app from market (it is free) called Any Cut.
2. Once downloaded, run the app and Select New Shortcut.
3. Select Activity.
4. Scroll way down to Phone Info and select it.
5. Rename it to what you want it called and tap OK.
6. A new shortcut will be on your homescreen.
7. Go into the newly created shortcut and scroll down to Set Preffered network type:
For 3G only, select: CDMA auto (PRL)
To go back to 3G/4G select: CDMA + LTE/EvDo auto
Hit the back arrow...
Credit for the find goes to ThatDudeButch for this info.
Source : http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-thunderbolt/69957-poor-mans-4g-toggle.htm"

Huge thanks, been wanting to do this since I got it to preserve battery!

I recommend the an app called "Network" From Philipp Manelow.
Its a shortcut that takes you to the settings page to turn 4g on/off.
Just install and open.
All it does it make a shortcut.
Here is the link:
https://market.android.com/details?id=de.mangelow.network&feature=search_result

I actually think I get better 3g speeds with HTC phones than my moto phones. I rarely ever got over .75 down and .5 up. Now that I turned 4G off and tried it I get 1.5 down and about 1 up. With my TP2 I regularly got 1.25+. WIth the D2 I don't remember getting that much ever.

I've been using Quick Battery.

Thanks for the info! How much more time are you seeing now?
I did a combination...
Installed Network AND QuickBattery.
in quick battery, i selected quick action and pointed to the "Network" widget
So now i see a battery meter and if i press it i can go into the setting and turn on my 4g

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Scroll down to select network type
CDMA = EDGE
EvDo = 3G
LTE = 4G
personally I have mine on LTE only ( live in Houston strong 4G network (D/L speeds constantly in midteens to low 20's Mbps ) and my battery isnt that bad.

1454 said:
I actually think I get better 3g speeds with HTC phones than my moto phones. I rarely ever got over .75 down and .5 up. Now that I turned 4G off and tried it I get 1.5 down and about 1 up. With my TP2 I regularly got 1.25+. WIth the D2 I don't remember getting that much ever.
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lol for me it makes me remember why I left verizon in the frist place. I maybe get .50 down at my house if I am lucky on 3g. My house is like an anti-cellphone but still with AT&T I was almost always at 1.5 down. But with LTE I always pull 10-11 ish at my house, so I have no complaints

thanks I will try any cut now..I have been doing the dailing method...3g off is very good on the battery

I used to get much better results with my old winmo device, I'm not sure why? The droid 2 was just downright awful for 3g speeds. The most I ever remember seeing was maybe 1.0. Maybe different phone act differently with the speed test like apps. Or different radios? I'm not that smart, I just know that there has been a difference between htc and my moto phone.

my_handle said:
or dial *#*#4636#*#*
Scroll down to select network type
CDMA = EDGE
EvDo = 3G
LTE = 4G
personally I have mine on LTE only ( live in Houston strong 4G network (D/L speeds constantly in midteens to low 20's Mbps ) and my battery isnt that bad.
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If anyone have sperodic 4g, switches back and forth on 3g and 4g but you want to it to be consistant with 4g, turn it to LTE only and it'll stay lock on 4g. My house is in the 4G coverage but I'm near the edge. I would get 4g if i move near windows but if i moved to center of my house, it switches to 3g. This drove me nuts. So found out about this shortcut and now after setting to 4G LTE only, I'm lock onto 4g everywhere in my home...Happy camper. Battery life, what battery life? I'm making through the day with 25% left when I come home. Medium to heavy user too.
VY.

I downloaded anycut this morning before going to work and my charge meter was at 96%, 14 hours and 16 minutes later after talking, we browsing with 3g, using my bluetooth and wifi my battery life is still at 37%. Ladies and Gentleman, I'd say we have a winner!

definitely easier to just use network by mangelow..

So i set my phone to cdma PRL auto..
and i was playing with th phone running emulators for about 2 hours.. batt dropped to around 70%. The Battery is already much better....
Now i want to try how long it will last for tomorrow if i leave it in 3g or if i set it to exclusive LTE. In NY verizon has pretty good coverage.
Im sure in 3g it should last a pretty long time. I am assuming this phone should have a pretty efficient 3g chip by now that wont suck dry your battery dry

Yeah. Went to work with just 3g and I went about 8 hour and only hit 86%

damn.. so LTE is sucking like 3x (made up number) more batt power. Guys please keep updating this.. looks like were definetly up to something here lol
BTW im using the stock rom.. havent rooted yet. im gonna leave it in 3g for tomorrow all day and see how i fare..then LTE the next.

Cg006 said:
damn.. so LTE is sucking like 3x (made up number) more batt power. Guys please keep updating this.. looks like were definetly up to something here lol
BTW im using the stock rom.. havent rooted yet. im gonna leave it in 3g for tomorrow all day and see how i fare..then LTE the next.
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Not so much the LTE. Someone else posted that them having LTE only gives them a good amount of use throughout the day with medium to heavy usage. The problem is that the 3g and 4g never cancel each other out, they are both always on....

Ive been doing alot of reading around here.... i didnt catch that piece....i guess i will go LTE only tomorrow for work. If LTE dont suck so much power... i may as well leave it on
I guess this can be addressed in a new software update?
I LOOOOOOOVVVVVEEEEEE these speeds with LTE. just did a test, 15.78mbps down.... epic!

Sweet thanks, this should help some with the battery life.

I would think that once it is locked onto LTE, it won't drain as much juice as it was. Because before it probably switches back and forth so it is constantly looking for that 4G signal. I was at the verizon store today after work, and when I got there, all they had for their coverage was 1x. The guy said that the converage had been switching back and forth. He left to help other people and i got into the phones settings to change the signal. LTE only got perfect 4G. EvDo wouldn't connect for some reason. CDMA gave the 1x. I also tried to see if i could browse the web while on the different settings, and it only worked with LTE.

Sadly giving up on 4G for now...

I got the phone on day one. The first thing I noticed as I looked at the phone as I walked out the door to my car was the 4g icon. Yay, I am on 4g! Wait, where did the icon go? It's pretty much been that way since I have had it. I keep it on Wifi at home. To put it on 4g, pretty much kills having a MOBILE smartphone. Data is the lifeblood of a smartphone and if it is not there, what's the point.
I have tried every single fix read here (and other forums). Including:
Rev A fix
Hard Reset
Pulling Battery and Sim card and placing back in
I have tried everything but take the phone back and complaining (rooted it).
Per the Verizon coverage map, I am (my house) in a 4g area. On the map, they ask for your address and it say's "I am covered" for 4g. I will note there are a few pockets on the map near my home that is 4g extended. I had been thinking it's just my area. As I would drive around, it would seem to lock onto 4g. But lately, no matter where I go, 4g goes in and out.
When the 4g goes in and out, it is killing all data. It's not like it quickly finds the 3g and resumes data transfer, it just stops. Goes to 1x after a while mostley.
So where I am at right now is that I have forced 3g (using Phone Info app) and now can get reliable mobile data.
Should I be patience with the network and wait it out or should I take this back and ***** (possibly being the device itself)? When does one suppose a possible software fix will be put out for the Thunderbolt?

Hey Man,
I read your post and I am a little confused. In summary is your issue that you dont have great 4G coverage by your house and 3G isnt picking up when 4g drops off?
If thats the case I know you said you tried the Rev A fix but just to double check did you:
Use the ##778# menu (hit call after ##778#)-->password is 000000-->modem settings-->Rev A-->choose enable-->hit the menu button on the tbolt and commit changes
Also have you had verizon try to swap out your sim card and/or called them up and made sure your current sim card is provisioned correctly? If both of these are the case and you tried all the other standard stuff I would go get the phone swapped out for another new device before your time runs out. I had the same problem and the Rev A fix did it for me.
jvward

What city are you in?

psufan5 said:
What city are you in?
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Cincinnati area. Northern suburb. Close to towers and major highways.

Maybe return it and get a new TB?
I didn't have 4G in my home although Verizon's little "insert address" said I would. When I called, however, they said that I was on the border and it's a tough call for now.
When I started driving around to different areas, however, it picked up 4G signal just fine. When driving back into a 3G area it switched with no issue.

psufan5 said:
What city are you in?
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And thats the right question to ask.
My 4G, in Los Angeles, is amazing. But Verizon is just starting to get 4G up and running in many cities right now, cant expect to have great coverage for many more months.

jvward said:
Hey Man,
I read your post and I am a little confused. In summary is your issue that you dont have great 4G coverage by your house and 3G isnt picking up when 4g drops off?
jvward
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When the 4g drops, data stops. No icon. Sometimes 3g shows up. Mostly 1x. Lately, nothing. No icon, no data.

jawa5636 said:
Cincinnati area. Northern suburb. Close to towers and major highways.
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I'm in northern Cincinnati too. Contact me before you do anything.
Hey, I have had problems too. I work in the Tri-county area and have GREAT 4G coverage. If you look at the 4G map I am right on the cusp (Maineville) of coverage. In my house, it will rotate between 4g/3g/1x constantly. I downloaded the "LTE OnOFF" app from TeamAndIRC and will toggle 3G only when I'm at home. For some reason I STILL HAVE TO DO THIS even though I'm using wi-fi 100%. When I get to work I toggle to 4G. Doing this, my battery life is exceptional. Before I figured it out I was draining my battery overnight every night. I don't know why the wi-fi requires that 3G only be on but it works.

Almost, but hanging on by a thread....
I am new to Verizon and I picked this up the day after launch. My two weeks are up. I am not in the 4G area (home), but spend most of my waking moment in a 4G area (work). While the phone itself doesn't have a hard time switching between networks on the handheld (I've watched it go from 3 to 4G while driving, I can almost pinpoint the switching area), it does have a hard time when in WiFi Hotspot Mode.
Here's what I mean. I'll be on wireless tether in a 4G zone and then without notice, the phone reports (via Hotspot App) that there is no mobile network ready and there is no data connection icon on the top menu bar. My Xoom is much more reliable on maintaining a connection (3G of course).
This is my only complaint about the 4G network, but it's a small one. The handheld itself is wonderful. I'm keeping both for now.
Check out my speed test on WiFi tether.

Verizon confirmed on the phone with me that there is in fact a bug in HTCs software switching from 4G to 3G when coverage drops. It should be fixed... In the mean time make sure you are using an app from the market to switch to 3G only unless you need 4G.
Other than that, just return it and wait for something else.

ridobe said:
I'm in northern Cincinnati too. Contact me before you do anything.
Hey, I have had problems too. I work in the Tri-county area and have GREAT 4G coverage. If you look at the 4G map I am right on the cusp (Maineville) of coverage. In my house, it will rotate between 4g/3g/1x constantly. I downloaded the "LTE OnOFF" app from TeamAndIRC and will toggle 3G only when I'm at home. For some reason I STILL HAVE TO DO THIS even though I'm using wi-fi 100%. When I get to work I toggle to 4G. Doing this, my battery life is exceptional. Before I figured it out I was draining my battery overnight every night. I don't know why the wi-fi requires that 3G only be on but it works.
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LOL. I live straight down 747 in Liberty Twp. (few miles up from Beckett Ridge). Driving around would get me a better connection (4g) at first but lately, as I drive around, it's all over the board. Most the time there is no data icon. I have another app (Phone Info) that has a toggle.
It gets frustrating in that I don't know if the issue is the phone, network or both. Hard to troubleshoot. I suppose I should mosey on down to the mall for anything and see what kind of 4g I get.

I am in almost the same situation as the OP, I have 4G everywhere but my home which I have confirmed with VZW is in a 4G coverage area, not an extended coverage area either. I have narrowed it down to my street exactly. Right after I turn down imy street I lose 4G.
I then once I am home and no I don't mean indoors just at my house I frequently go between nothing, 1x, and 3G(Very Weak) with sporadic data. Will not get 4G back unless I drive around. This is my second device, and second trouble ticket with VZW this time giving more detailed information.
I have also tried every possible solution but unfortunately switching to Rev. A is not a "solution" for me as I am in a 4G area and if I wanted 3G I probably would have just kept my Droid X.
I sure hope this bug if it is one in the software will be fixed with an update or VZW can sort it out if it is my network.

ridobe said:
I'm in northern Cincinnati too. Contact me before you do anything.
Hey, I have had problems too. I work in the Tri-county area and have GREAT 4G coverage. If you look at the 4G map I am right on the cusp (Maineville) of coverage. In my house, it will rotate between 4g/3g/1x constantly. I downloaded the "LTE OnOFF" app from TeamAndIRC and will toggle 3G only when I'm at home. For some reason I STILL HAVE TO DO THIS even though I'm using wi-fi 100%. When I get to work I toggle to 4G. Doing this, my battery life is exceptional. Before I figured it out I was draining my battery overnight every night. I don't know why the wi-fi requires that 3G only be on but it works.
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Update:
Per my experience yesterday, if you are within the 275 loop, you are golden. Once I hit West Chester/Beckett Ridge, LTE started dropping. At my house, it is almost non-existent.

So my tbolt says 4G, but it's not working

It keeps intermittently going to 4G and lighting up only the UP arrow, but it's not actually transferring any data -- FB doesn't work, browser, speedtest won't find a server, etc. And then it will toggle to 3G on its own and get the standard .5-ish MB up/down.
I never made the fix yesterday to switch to 3G, figured I'd wait. Wondering if anybody else is seeing this kind of issue. I'm in Detroit. When 4G was up I was getting 30+ MB down as the norm.

trau said:
It keeps intermittently going to 4G and lighting up only the UP arrow, but it's not actually transferring any data -- FB doesn't work, browser, speedtest won't find a server, etc. And then it will toggle to 3G on its own and get the standard .5-ish MB up/down.
I never made the fix yesterday to switch to 3G, figured I'd wait. Wondering if anybody else is seeing this kind of issue. I'm in Detroit. When 4G was up I was getting 30+ MB down as the norm.
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Happens a lot... turn data off, then turn it back on...

yeah my thunderbolt also says 4g but only the up arrow lights up and it sits there for like 3 mins until it switches to 3g and starts working again. i only just started noticing it after the outage. is this normal then? how do you fix it when it happens?

This was happening to me all day long as well. It's still really flaky even right now. Also in Detroit.

4G is now working up & down. It was only doing 4G up earlier, so I was forcing it to CDMA auto (PRL) to keep it on 3G.
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Anybody in Detroit seeing any improvement on this? I tried turning off/on mobile data, restarting, battery pull. Still same issue as I mentioned in the original post. The frustrating thing is it won't just automatically go to 3G when 4G isn't working. I just notice it's switched to 3G randomly at times.
Note: I tried a *228 when the network dropped before I heard the news and before I read that it was a bad idea to do that. Of course now I'm wondering in the back of my mind if that's the reason I'm getting this issue now.

I am on BAMF remix 1.5 with the new radio.
Since the new radio came out, 4g was working pretty good. BUUUUUUUT, since the 4g outage, it's working like pre new radio.

What a CS rep told me was to check the Data roaming feature to fix the problem.
Settings > Wireless & networks > Mobile networks (under Mobile network with the check mark)
Then check the data roaming.
I had the same problem. Where I would lose connectivity to data. However, checking it seems to fix it for me. I just turn on the option "data roaming sound" just in case.

eHRPD causing issues??

Today the eHRPD network came back on in Raleigh, and I have had several issues since. A few people said they couldn't text me, and I had the first reboot I have seen in a long while. went into EPST and set the modem back to enabled (revA) and now I get all my texts. Anybody else seen issues like that?
LTE is not on in Raleigh yet, but they are testing and it pops up from time to time, so eHRPD is not necessary

eHRPD came up for me last night and i was having multiple reboots all day. But it might be from something else.

Yea, If I don't enable REV A the damn phone always wants to go into 1x. What is the deal with the way they have these set up?

zx12dak said:
Yea, If I don't enable REV A the damn phone always wants to go into 1x. What is the deal with the way they have these set up?
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We're the guinea pigs

Do these phones talk over EVDO or 1x??

eHRPD has been back in Southern California but I noticed my 4G has been dropping in and out since. Tried doing ##778# and changing from eHRPD to Enable Rev A and that appears to have resolved the 4G drop out.

mi7chy said:
eHRPD has been back in Southern California but I noticed my 4G has been dropping in and out since. Tried doing ##778# and changing from eHRPD to Enable Rev A and that appears to have resolved the 4G drop out.
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After I updated yesterday, I briefly re-enabled LTE and eHRPD. Almost immediately, I began to have issues with data dropping out. I switched back to Rev A and will keep it there until the network is more stable.

mi7chy said:
eHRPD has been back in Southern California but I noticed my 4G has been dropping in and out since. Tried doing ##778# and changing from eHRPD to Enable Rev A and that appears to have resolved the 4G drop out.
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Yeah same here actually. I was wondering why my 4g had been dropping in and out. Been happening since eHRPD came back on. I personally think they're probably better off without it.
Been operating with LTE only or with Rev A enabled. Like you, it fixed the drops.

Anyone having issues with signal constantly dropping to 2G?

My wife just upgraded from the MyTouch Slide 3G to the Slide 4G. The 4G is constantly dropping to 2G so obviously the data speeds are terrible. Her Slide 3G usually always stayed in 3G in the same areas the 4G is now dropping. Anyone else experiencing this?

Did experience something like this at a friend's house.

Sounds like the problem that the one of the reviewers of the Sidekick 4G was having (ping-ponging between 4G and 2G). Not everyone was having that problem in the wild, though. Could be a coincidence that two recent physical keyboard-based 4G phones are having trouble holding their T-Mobile HSPA+ connections and skipping the 3G alternative, though it could be a bug with T-Mobile's HSPA+ at the tower or phone level. I don't know know the protocol rules on the handoff between 3G and HSPA+. Some reviewers have reported lower data rates than expected with the Slide. The Sensation supposedly has a death grip issue, so maybe there's a variation of that with the Slide (due to a different landscape hand position using the physical keyboard) resulting in 2G connections. Could be temporary capacity issues with your wife's local 3G/4G towers. Is this a constant problem or worse at different times of the day? I remember a few years back reading a report on 3G mobile streaming usage experiments in Europe that it only took like 8 people streaming on the same tower to saturate the tower's 3G capacity. Of course, the number should be higher with HSPA+, but just wanted to point out it is possible for a tower to get overloaded. Keep us posted. This is the kind of stuff that will determine whether I get the Slide and stay with T-Mobile.

I'm in MD and I'm constantly having this issue in my apartment. One minute I have 4g and the next I have 2g and it wont switch back until I restart the phone. I wont even be holding it and i see the issue. Dunno, at least I have 14 days to bring it back.

Had same issue with my sensation. Try going into settings and switching to just wcdma as opposed to it picking between gsm/wcdma. It is under wireless and mobile settings. That is assuming you are in a good 4g area. It will not show 3g
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Well i saw this happening on the 1st floor of my house. But it was in a hallway away from the windows. but when i moved it came back to 4g and stays there. I think it has do more with the tower and whats available in your area.

Should I ever see 3G on the phone? Currently it is only ever in 4G or 2G. I notice the manual mentions 3G also though. I was assuming it always said 4G even if it was really 3G, but now I'm not sure. Has anyone seen 3G at all for their signal? I'm wondering if there is a setting wrong on the phone.

For those of you that don't have the network settings, go to the market and download an app called Network, it's free. Scroll down to set preferred network type and chose WCDMA only.

Randomocity812 said:
I'm in MD and I'm constantly having this issue in my apartment. One minute I have 4g and the next I have 2g and it wont switch back until I restart the phone. I wont even be holding it and i see the issue. Dunno, at least I have 14 days to bring it back.
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This issue is the phone itself. This is a verry buggy phone. Coming from a family g1 plan and were very excited but these phones have issues. Cant wait for root. Neways i know the 2g issue is that it gets stuck and u have to reboot. For ex. I tested in cordelane ID in near costco. Full 4g bars. Had 2 mt4gs's. One phone was in 4g and the other was stuck. I tried the old g1 trick they had in the beginning switching in and out of airplane mode. Did not work. Rebooted and it worked fine. Many other issues like all the time on both phones the widgets get stuck. U must slide to next screen than go back and widget works. Like i said i have 2 phones so i can troubleshoot and feel confident its not a glitch with a particular phone, etc. These phones suck.