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Just to start off the problem I am having is prevalent in all 2.1 stock sense hero roms. There is so much keyboard lag in the sense messaging app that it is pretty much useless. You really can't type the way you want too. Considering I use my phone pretty much for text messaging and music, this has destroyed my opinion of the phone. Sprint was so excited about this phone and gave up on it within 7 months. Considering all contracts last for 2 years (if you want the good upgrade prices), don't you think it would be the ethical thing to do to keep a phone updated for at least that duration. This is a $500 dollar phone that can't text message correctly.
Alright after my ranting now down to the problem. I feel like the #/160 character counter right above the send button is the issue causing the terrible keyboard lag. I rarely do texts over 160 characters so I really don't need this. I remember back in the day of my touch diamond, there was an .xml mod you could do to eliminate the character counter which sped up the texting perfectly. I have no idea how to go through all the .xml's and .pngs of the apks but I figured someone in here could help. Basically I want the character counter to be removed to see if this is the problem. I do have only prediction on, no vibrate or sound, and it still lags out of control. It happens on every sense rom I've tried (and trust me I've tried them all). This does not happen in any of the AOSP based roms such as Cyanogen and Aospmod with the stock android Mms.apk, where there is no character counter. I tried pushing that to my phone an I like it but it just doesn't match up with the rest of the sense, plus it doesn't have the message counter option on the icon which i really like. I pretty much came to this conclusion when i used both of Zen's ports, Aria and MT3G, and I had absolutely no lag when texting. Both roms have different framework i understand which doesn't allow me to push either of the MMs.apk's from either of these roms to my hero stock 2.1. I am using IcedHoneyBun with Zens' any rom Kernel right now but it happened in NfinitiFX's rom too. ONCE AGAIN I NEVER USE VIBRATE OR SOUND so please don't mention that as a fix.
I am posting the Mms.apk below. If somebody can help me I would be glad to donate.
you might want to post this on android central, Beezy420 build icedhoneybun, and he might be able to fix it for you. Although i blieve hes mostly developing for EVO now, he is still around. Post in his honeybun thread.
The Mac said:
you might want to post this on android central, Beezy420 build icedhoneybun, and he might be able to fix it for you. Although i blieve hes mostly developing for EVO now, he is still around. Post in his honeybun thread.
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I know beezy built it but it has nothing to do with the rom. It has everything to do with the stock sense Mms.apk. More hero users use xda than any other site thats why i posted it here.
I *highly* doubt that a simple character counter is causing the delay. First of all, that only makes sense if the keyboard is *completely* lag-free in all other "known-good" apps.
Handcent's text messaging app also has a character count... have you tried that app?
Can you type without any lag in a basic notepad application? Make sure you have all of the same auto-correction and spelling options enabled.
HTC MMS is laggy as hell!!! This isn't "the fix" but it should help somewhat. Turn off ur notifications and auto-retrieve in stock MMS then go into your stock app manager under settings~~>manage apps and force stop Messaging. Now download either Handcent or Chomp from the market cuz they r pretty much the same. Then remove the stock messaging shortcut from your desktop if u have one just so it's outta your way. A good portion of the lag should be gone. Clocking ur cpu higher if u use a clockable kernel will help reduce keyboard lag too.
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I *highly* doubt that a simple character counter is causing the delay. First of all, that only makes sense if the keyboard is *completely* lag-free in all other "known-good" apps.
Handcent's text messaging app also has a character count... have you tried that app?
Can you type without any lag in a basic notepad application? Make sure you have all of the same auto-correction and spelling options enabled.
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I mean my keyboard is lag free in any other application except ones that require per letter searching such as google search. I just feel like getting rid of the character counter would help a great deal just because you are absorbing a but of memory after ever letter you type. I really don't know what is the cause. I don't like chomp or handcent i've tried them both. Not as much lag but there is still some lag. I just wanted to see if this was the problem and then go from there.
I would love for someone to pull the counter out of the HTC mms app. I will also gladly donate.
...still willing to donate...
Not possible. I'm using a GSM port of the Legend 2.1 build, and there is no 160 count at all, and it runs no better/worse than the older one. (The only reason it loads faster is because I'm using Zen's Any Kernel)
anything is possible and we wont know until it happens
tailsthecat3 said:
anything is possible and we wont know until it happens
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Except, this doesn't make much sense. MMaybe I haven't used a CDMA ROM in a while, but I distinctly remember the HTC Messaging app always being a bit sluggish.
You should try swype its great and quick as hell! =]
Has nothing to do with what you are saying. My brother has a Droid Eris with the same messaging app and its flawless. Maybe ours will get fixed in the update rolling out
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Woohoo! I wanted to make an announcement that although Swype is still in beta, it is now available for Free for Android owners (that meet requirements) and are accepting new beta signups!
Got the following update from the official Swype website:
Swype is pleased to offer an (updated) Android Beta!
Here are the details:
* In English, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, German, and introducing French and an early, *UNSTABLE* preview release of Chinese Pinyin
* Now includes support for Double-Tap-to-Edit, Cursor Restore, and Voice-to-Text (requires Google Voice Search be included in your system firmware)
* HVGA, WVGA, and WVGA854 Resolutions - don't worry we'll detect this automatically. Sorry, no QVGA
* Limited End User Support - mostly via our forum
* If your phone came pre-installed with Swype
DO NOT download this beta (it won't work)
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I have an in-depth writeup of Swype at http://jonsuh.com/2010/11/swype-never-tap-to-type-on-your-phone-again/
You must still register at http://beta.swype.com/ to receive the link for the download.
Thanks, but why is this in the development section?
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Eskimo_Joe said:
Thanks, but why is this in the development section?
Sent from my Htc Incredible using XDA App
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Umm, because it's still beta and historically a lot of devs have built on the apk?
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Thanks, but why is this in the development section?
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Woops! Was checking through the development section and forgot to switch out, haha, my bad. Admin was gracious enough to move it.
Why do I keep getting, "Sorry! This is not an Android phone"???
disregard..browser needed to be in "Mobile View".
sd5500 said:
Why do I keep getting, "Sorry! This is not an Android phone"???
disregard..browser needed to be in "Mobile View".
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Actually, I'm glad you figured that out. I changed from a Desire Z port to one of Lou's (which is great anyway). There have been other instances this has come up for me as I usually turn Mobile mode off.
Thanks!
X
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Thanks! I've been waiting forever to get my wife signed up. I can't live without Swype.
any other Droid Inc users having issues with this beta?
Everytime I reboot my phone the swybe keyboard loses swype ability, still allows touch type though, and I have to reinstall to regain it.
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I've had that issue as well.
The fix I found was to switch the input method back to the stock keyboard and switch back to swype. It should start working like normal again without having to reboot and reinstall swype.
dali137 said:
any other Droid Inc users having issues with this beta?
Everytime I reboot my phone the swybe keyboard loses swype ability, still allows touch type though, and I have to reinstall to regain it.
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I had this problem no not than a week ago. I don't believe I for anything different, but its working upon reboot now lol. Rather odd. But yeah, just change input method then change it back to Swype as someone else said.
Sent from my Droid Incredible running Myn's Warm Two Point Two RLS5.
Yes the reboot phone-no longer Swyping issue is all over the Swype forum and is well known by their development team. It's pretty annoying, but the switching input mode "fix" works everytime.
DJ Jazzy Chris said:
I've had that issue as well.
The fix I found was to switch the input method back to the stock keyboard and switch back to swype. It should start working like normal again without having to reboot and reinstall swype.
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wish I had seen this.. I have the same issue on my EVO4G. any fix for this?
dahauss said:
wish I had seen this.. I have the same issue on my EVO4G. any fix for this?
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Nope. I still have it, and I think that it is still a known issue with Swype. It doesn't happen too often on my install of CM7, but it has happened a few times. It is annoying but I love Swype, so since it's so intermittent, I can deal with it.
Agreed. It's just one of things you know you're going to have to do when you reboot.
I found another way around said issue. When Swype loses it's ability, long press>input method>chose another keyboard>long press>input method>chose Swype. Fixed.
Im using a themed swype that i found on someones twitter even though im in the beta, the official beta swype wont work after a reboot like mentioned above, but the themed one had no issues when rebooting.
Its based off an older build, but working is better than newest
thank you pieter3d
I used Swype for a long time, but ended up switching to SwiftKey for the day-to-day because it was more accurate and less annoying. I still love swyping, I just wish it had predictive capabilities.
Then I started flashing hella ROMs and now I can't get Swype to activate properly on MIUI, because MIUI doesn't disable keyboards the way that Swype wants it to. This forced me off of Swype... not to mention Swype having the no-longer-swyping-after-rebooting or no-longer-swyping-because-of-random-bull**** issues.
As soon as SwiftKey implements swiping, Swype is toast. It's up to the Swype devs to fix their hamfisted licencing issues. And while they're at it, implement skinning and design prettier skins.
Here are two of the onscreen keyboards that I use on a daily basis, swype is also a great alternative but posts with swype links have been shut down by the mods so the best thing to do is to sign up for the beta program directly here or use google
Of course to install these for now you can go to the thread created by me on xda here to sideload the .apks
These are both being used currently on my 2.2.1 Rom with zero issues.
Thanks to all that have made these programs possible, we truly appreciate the hard work.
HTC_IME (My Favorite tap to type on screen keyboard)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624416
** UPDATE: Keyboard from Android 2.3 +
http://www.appbrain.com/app/keyboard-from-android-2-3/com.moo.android.inputmethod.latin
or the try the FREE version first, info here: http://www.appbrain.com/app/keyboard-from-android-2-3/com.moo.android.inputmethod.latin.free
** UPDATE: Big Buttons Keyboard Deluxe
http://www.appbrain.com/app/big-buttons-keyboard-deluxe/com.bigbuttons.deluxe2
or the try the FREE version first, info here: http://www.appbrain.com/app/big-buttons-keyboard-standard/com.bigbuttons
Renamed Gingerbread Keyboard
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875202
Not knowing much about these kybds, I'm curious as to whether you have a preference towards one or the other using swype? I can't use and android without it after using it on my captivate.
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Not knowing much about these kybds, I'm curious as to whether you have a preference towards one or the other using swype? I can't use and android without it after using it on my captivate.
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Swype is nice but inputting email addresses and passwords are somewhat of a hassle.
I prefer HTC_IME as the tap to text option of the two because of the word prediction software that is always on point.
Its hard to compare swype vs. the one above because they are completely different ways of using your onscreen keyboard.
The HTC ime mod is the best. I don't like the clunky stock keyboard the inspire had. Plus the layout was shifted from other virtual keyboards. The mod keyboard give you the ability to customize so much. Including the layout.
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The HTC ime mod is the best. I don't like the clunky stock keyboard the inspire had. Plus the layout was shifted from other virtual keyboards. The mod keyboard give you the ability to customize so much. Including the layout.
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Yeah, I would rather deal with the occasional hassle w/ email and passwords and text like a mad man... lol
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Yeah, I would rather deal with the occasional hassle w/ email and passwords and text like a mad man... lol
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Well I have Swype fully working on the Inspire, installed using the Sideload Wonder Machine for Windows (Best thing since sliced bread).
Highly recommended
The gingerbread keyboard keeps force closing on me.
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Same here, the Gingerbread KB FC's on me. I reinstalled just to be sure but it still does it. Anybody know how to fix it?
The Gingerbread KB worked fine on my HTC Dream / G1.
Thats weird, I didnt get around installing it on the Inspire yet so maybe Ill have to edit the OP and take that link to the app off if more continue to report the FC.
For those having issues just unistall it and use the other options listed please.
HTC_IME - High resolution version (Froyo/2.2)
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Swype are the only onscreen keyboards I currently have installed as of now.
There is a gingerbread keyboardon the market
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I just noticed that it FC's when you have different languages enabled in the settings. If you don't tinker with the settings at all (default) it will work, but I mainly write in English and Spanish and is the main reason why I installed it to begin with...
never mind it FC's as default as soon as you try to type the first letter...
trying the one on the market in a minute...
Tried the one on the market and it even has more features than the one in the forums, I highly recommend it...
swype wont install
i got the .apk for the swype installer and sideloaded it, but now, every time i run the installer it still tells me that the install is blocked...how did you guys get past that without having the ACTUAL keyboard .apk (not the installer .apk)
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i got the .apk for the swype installer and sideloaded it, but now, every time i run the installer it still tells me that the install is blocked...how did you guys get past that without having the ACTUAL keyboard .apk (not the installer .apk)
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You might want to try this app instead, unsure why you are having issues with Swype:
http://www.androidtapp.com/slideit-keyboard/
I would really like to use swype though...I appreciate the suggestion though...any ideas or does anyone need clarification of my problem?
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I would really like to use swype though...I appreciate the suggestion though...any ideas or does anyone need clarification of my problem?
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Like I said in the OP google is your friend, lol.
We cant post up swype .apks, its prohibited.
i understand that, and thats totally fine...but how the heck do i install it? i got swypeinstaller.apk to install fine. but after that it attempts to download and install the swype.apk from the server and it tries to install it, and thats where it gets blocked. so im trying to figure out how to install the swype.apk that was downloaded through the swype installer, when i cant find any temp file or anything that just says swype.apk
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i understand that, and thats totally fine...but how the heck do i install it? i got swypeinstaller.apk to install fine. but after that it attempts to download and install the swype.apk from the server and it tries to install it, and thats where it gets blocked. so im trying to figure out how to install the swype.apk that was downloaded through the swype installer, when i cant find any temp file or anything that just says swype.apk
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This is where you might want to contact swype directly.
That would be my best advice for you.
I'm working on getting the Gingerbread keyboard working.
That sentence just doesn't feel right to me.
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Same here, the Gingerbread KB FC's on me. I reinstalled just to be sure but it still does it. Anybody know how to fix it?
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http://www.appbrain.com/app/keyboard-from-android-2-3/com.moo.android.inputmethod.latin.free
Download this.
How did you install swype, in bullet point. Mine went like this
-registered on swype's website
-downloaded swypeinstaller.apk
-used sideloading wonder machine to install swypeinstaller.apk
-opened swype installer app
-logged into swype's server
-downloaded the 2.5MB swype (english/spanish)
-got the install blocked error, gave option to go to settings or cancel (obviously settings does nothing because we cannot check "unknown sources")
I'm not new to this stuff, and i've had HTC phones before, so i really doubt i did anything wrong, and i cannot accept the fact that the phone i purchased on launch day is blocked more than anyone elses phone that also got it on launch day. Im not being a jerk, but the only people that can help are the awesome devs on XDA, so help lol prease
why would this phone not have swype not installed? the evo got it via an OTA update and every phone has swype on it that htc has released after the incredible... luckily I'm still enrolled inthe beta so I just dl it and I'm fine but I still have to switch keyboards to get swype to work...
HTC hub? where is it? is it not supported in USA yet? I had it on my incredible from a z rom and it was nice to have but not really a necessity.. I'm hoping for an update within a month to add these 2 things at least
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why would this phone not have swype not installed? the evo got it via an OTA update and every phone has swype on it that htc has released after the incredible... luckily I'm still enrolled inthe beta so I just dl it and I'm fine but I still have to switch keyboards to get swype to work...
HTC hub? where is it? is it not supported in USA yet? I had it on my incredible from a z rom and it was nice to have but not really a necessity.. I'm hoping for an update within a month to add these 2 things at least
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+1 on swype. I still have my swype beta email so I guess I could technically still download it for my TB, but I assumed that swpye would come preinstalled on the phone. I thought i read somewhere that it was suppossed to, but I guess I was mistaken.
I installed the swype beta and it doesn't seem to space words automatically (no matter the setting) in the sense text messaging window - real annoying.
Possible to get that beta apk from one of you so I can theme it?
I don't know if it works like that or I certainly would.
The APK is an installer. Once installed, you launch the installer where you log in and it downloads the files to your phone.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the website looks like it's open enrollment for the beta?
beta dot swype dot com
Lets continue this discussion under the thread in applications...
I see a moderator moving this thread soon anyways.
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I installed the swype beta and it doesn't seem to space words automatically (no matter the setting) in the sense text messaging window - real annoying.
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I noticed this too. Very strange.
I had this problem on first install I rebooted and it spaces correctly now but I have to switch back to ht,.keyboard and back to swype to allow me to swype again... My bootleg I have works better than the beta
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Bodero said:
I installed the swype beta and it doesn't seem to space words automatically (no matter the setting) in the sense text messaging window - real annoying.
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i just posted a note about this issue in the main forums. good to know i am not the only person having the problem. i guess we need to submit a bug report to swype about it but not sure where to do that.
I remember seeing a swype that works in sms somewhere but i am unable to find it now, could someone please link me to one
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I remember seeing a swype that works in sms somewhere but i am unable to find it now, could someone please link me to one
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Swype works fine with Handcent. Pretty sure we're all using the same version of Swype.
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Swype works fine with Handcent. Pretty sure we're all using the same version of Swype.
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Use the attached MMS.apk, use titanium to uninstall your current messaging app, and then install that.
It is AOSP messaging app. I personally hate handcent's look.
I'm using flex T9. I actually like it better than swype.
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Just installed SlideIt and it seems to be working fine. Only thing it's not performing auto cap after you complete a sentence. Wondering if the pay version does. After only playing with it a few minutes i kinda like it better than swype.
Is there anyway to eliminate all the extra languages that come with this keyboard. It sucks up over 17 mb of memory. Would be great if we could erase all languages we don't need.
Thanks,
Vinny
Try this one, it works great with no flaws, the only thing missing is it is a version without the voice button...but it works flawless.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=985683