Hello!
First off, I am a complete noob. 100%. But I want to root my evo. So naturally I had a few questions. 1 question I haven't been able to find an answer for (sorry if it's somewhere on the forums!) is about "halfway" rooting.
I was going to use unrEVOked to root but I read that that's only a "halfway" root. I wanted to use unrEVOked though so it wouldn't erase everything.
If this is a "halfway" root than I assume that I can root my phone with unrEVOked, make a back up of everything, and then root it another way, right?
That way I could go back and put all the data I backed up back on my phone. I want to make sure I'm right before I try this.
Also, what can I use to do a "full" root if unrEVOked is only a halfway root?
Sorry about being a total noob. Thanks in advance for accepting said noobness.
Unrevoked does fully root your phone, older versions required the forever zip to be flashed through recovery to gain s-off. This is now integrated into the newer versions of unrevoked.
Here's a thread with a similar question that I replied to. It eventually turned into a kind of walkthrough/guide. You may find some useful information there, as it walks one user through the process of rooting and flashing a custom rom. Also be sure to have an understanding of what you're doing, and that you know the pros & cons.
This may be helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045537
Thanks plainjane! I actually ended up using unrEVOked like 10 minutes after I posted this cause I just couldn't handle it anymore!
If you don't mind me asking a few more noob questions I'd appreciate the help.
I was wondering how to do a "NAND backup" for one.
Last, is there a way to flash gingerbread to my Evo without losing HTC Sense? Is there a way to update the Sense I have? Cause the one on the Thunderbolt is way cooler.
Thanks plainjane! You rock!
LostRealist said:
Thanks plainjane! I actually ended up using unrEVOked like 10 minutes after I posted this cause I just couldn't handle it anymore!
If you don't mind me asking a few more noob questions I'd appreciate the help.
I was wondering how to do a "NAND backup" for one.
Last, is there a way to flash gingerbread to my Evo without losing HTC Sense? Is there a way to update the Sense I have? Cause the one on the Thunderbolt is way cooler.
Thanks plainjane! You rock!
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As far as nandroid backups go - boot into recovery, choose backup/restore, and choose backup system now... or something similar. Unrevoked puts the ClockworkMod recovery image on your phone, which I haven't used in ages. I would suggest flashing Amon Ra recovery, but which you use is up to you. There are more details on nandroid backups & choosing Amon Ra in the thread I linked you to.
There are some new roms with Gingerbread & Sense, but it's a port & not very stable. I definitely wouldn't suggest using any of the gingersense roms as your first flash. Once you get the hang of it & can troubleshoot on your own, I'd say give it a whirl.
Since it seems like you really like Sense, I'd suggest trying out Myn's Warm Z, which comes with Sense 2.0. If you want better Sense over GB, that would definitely suit you more as the gingersense roms come with Sense 1.0.
In the thread I posted, that member chose Myn's Warm 2.2 as their first rom. It's a great first rom choice if you want something closer to stock, but nicer.
If you haven't read through that thread, I would do so. I think it would answer a lot of questions you may have, and give you more info on what comes next.
If you need anything else, don't hesitate to ask. Just be sure to do some of your own research as well.
plainjane said:
As far as nandroid backups go - boot into recovery, choose backup/restore, and choose backup system now... or something similar. Unrevoked puts the ClockworkMod recovery image on your phone, which I haven't used in ages. I would suggest flashing Amon Ra recovery, but which you use is up to you. There are more details on nandroid backups & choosing Amon Ra in the thread I linked you to.
There are some new roms with Gingerbread & Sense, but it's a port & not very stable. I definitely wouldn't suggest using any of the gingersense roms as your first flash. Once you get the hang of it & can troubleshoot on your own, I'd say give it a whirl.
Since it seems like you really like Sense, I'd suggest trying out Myn's Warm Z, which comes with Sense 2.0. If you want better Sense over GB, that would definitely suit you more as the gingersense roms come with Sense 1.0.
In the thread I posted, that member chose Myn's Warm 2.2 as their first rom. It's a great first rom choice if you want something closer to stock, but nicer.
If you haven't read through that thread, I would do so. I think it would answer a lot of questions you may have, and give you more info on what comes next.
If you need anything else, don't hesitate to ask. Just be sure to do some of your own research as well.
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Thanks so much for your help. Yeah I really should be more patient but I ended up flashing Gingersense to my phone like an hour after my last post. I got lucky and everything works except one thing. I get an error when moving apps to SD. But everything else works perfect, even the camera. Everyone was having problems with the camera and market but it all works. Like I said, I got lucky.
I appreciate your advice! From now on I'm going to wait for responses before I flash anything. I could have really messed it up. Thanks again!
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I haven't seen a thread about this, and it looks like this method is fairly fresh. I figured I'd give it a try...and it doesn't seem to work.
It gets hung up on the "flashing recovery image" part.
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You have to remove HTC Sync AND the drivers that come with it. When I first tried this, I just installed the USB drivers that unrEVOked came. Looks like you have to totally removed anything from HTC before this can work.
And yes, it does work.
Same thing happens to me.
I have the latest software from Sprint. I don't know if this not working has anything to do with me trying to run unrevoked2 previously.
Not sure...I would uninstall any software from Sprint and HTC before you run this.
That may help.
Great job unrEVOked team. I waited to root my phone again until you guys figured it out again.
What does it do...?
can somebody give a detailed step by step on how to use this unrevoked 3?
and will it leave us having the new 1.47 radio and wifi update?
I asked this on another forum... but why not here?
Does this unrevoked do a full root, where it wipes all your data?
After seeing their one patch potentially ruin people's 4G for good, I've decided not to try their methods anymore. Hopefully 3.0 helps some people.
I like the Simple Root method and Whitslack's method.
So it seems like it doesn't wipe your data... anyone tried this and can confirm?
it doesn't wipe your data i just rooted mine in 3 minutes
halorin said:
After seeing their one patch potentially ruin people's 4G for good, I've decided not to try their methods anymore. Hopefully 3.0 helps some people.
I like the Simple Root method and Whitslack's method.
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I just want to clarify that unrEVOked is not responsible for that. There was a problem with the OTA update itself that broke 4G for some people, which HTC is and was responsible for. The only thing unrEVOked did was distribute said OTA update in pre-rooted form.
So after you run this, will it be possible to unlock nand protection to achieve a full root?
Ah ok uninstalling HTC Sync and its driver did the trick. I'm now rooted for the first time! w00t!
android-wifi-tether works great too!
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I just want to clarify that unrEVOked is not responsible for that. There was a problem with the OTA update itself that broke 4G for some people, which HTC is and was responsible for. The only thing unrEVOked did was distribute said OTA update in pre-rooted form.
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That's 100% not true. The borking of the 4g was due to the way that the unrEVOked method wrote the wimax image to the wimax partition. This wasn't unique to the unrEVOked method, but it was something that should likely have been tested before release.
patelkedar91 said:
I asked this on another forum... but why not here?
Does this unrevoked do a full root, where it wipes all your data?
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No, it doesn't wipe ANY of your data. After I performed it, all of my apps and files were still 100% intact.
SayWhat10 said:
can somebody give a detailed step by step on how to use this unrevoked 3?
and will it leave us having the new 1.47 radio and wifi update?
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I believe it does. My software version didn't change afterwards.
To be frank, I'm not really sure how exactly this works. I know it changes your recovery, but other than that...I have no clue.
Still, it's a way of a achieving root that I'm fairly confident most users can pull off.
Remember: YOU MUST REMOVE HTC SYNC, AND ANY HTC/SPRINT DRIVERS
Otherwise...it gets hung up during the process.
Yeah whoops...
Make sure you uninstall HTC Sync AND HTC Drivers... if you have Windows 7, just search, from the launcher thing, "htc un--" and it'll fill in the rest.
Edit: Trying it for the second time, it gets stuck at "Waiting for device..." and it's connected.
Edit 2: DON'T uninstall the extra htc drivers... I don't know, but it's not recognizing my phone now, zzz.
So I'm confused a little bit. With unrevoked 3 you can flash a recovery image and flash a custom ROM now?
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So I'm confused a little bit. With unrevoked 3 you can flash a recovery image and flash a custom ROM now?
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On their site they say: unrevoked3 will replace the stock Android recovery with a custom one, which adds many features including “nandroid” backups, the ability to use custom ROMs, and a greater amount of flexibility and customization of your Android phone.
So I'm guessing I could finally try out some of those ROM's I seeing floating around here. All I'm really after is a fully functional version of Froyo for the Evo, but I'm not sure if that's out yet...
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On their site they say: unrevoked3 will replace the stock Android recovery with a custom one, which adds many features including “nandroid” backups, the ability to use custom ROMs, and a greater amount of flexibility and customization of your Android phone.
So I'm guessing I could finally try out some of those ROM's I seeing floating around here. All I'm really after is a fully functional version of Froyo for the Evo, but I'm not sure if that's out yet...
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Nothing working 100% yet, but DamageControl & Cyanogen are the two closest i think ( hope to see a 100%-working FroYo within the next few days ).
christophermx4 said:
On their site they say: unrevoked3 will replace the stock Android recovery with a custom one, which adds many features including “nandroid” backups, the ability to use custom ROMs, and a greater amount of flexibility and customization of your Android phone.
So I'm guessing I could finally try out some of those ROM's I seeing floating around here. All I'm really after is a fully functional version of Froyo for the Evo, but I'm not sure if that's out yet...
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So this is full root like how everybody is doing manually? Can a expert chime in on this method and explain the drawback to this if any?
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So being new to the android system and having some experience in the past with WinMo and ROMS and flashing the 1st thing I did with my USSC Mesmerize was to of course root it. No reason.
Used z4root and worked perfect (I guess.LOL) Now have Root Explorer and Superuser.
1st question... Is there a way to unring the bell and Unroot or Reroot. *still learning some new terminology*.
2nd Question.. If I flash with a ROM (once I find one that sounds good) will it be possible to do a hard reset back to factory settings through the Power Button/volume button method. (used that one once as I installed and played with different apps to find what I wanted and needed) It shows a menu when rebooting giving a few options on reset.
Last. If anyone can point me to the Roid Hacking for Dummys section I would be forever grateful. Plans are to learn the ROM processes and work into some app development. (some coding experience and chronic insomniac).
BTW Nice to meet ya all ..
and I thought my Crackberry was addictive
Sighcosis said:
1st question... Is there a way to unring the bell and Unroot or Reroot. *still learning some new terminology*.
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I'm using z4root as well. It gives an unroot option at the main screen. I would assume this would unroot the phone, but I am new as well. My phone unroots everytime I put a new ROM on it, which is strange...
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2nd Question.. If I flash with a ROM (once I find one that sounds good) will it be possible to do a hard reset back to factory settings through the Power Button/volume button method. (used that one once as I installed and played with different apps to find what I wanted and needed) It shows a menu when rebooting giving a few options on reset.
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Last. If anyone can point me to the Roid Hacking for Dummys section I would be forever grateful. Plans are to learn the ROM processes and work into some app development. (some coding experience and chronic insomniac).
BTW Nice to meet ya all ..
and I thought my Crackberry was addictive
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I'm learning but reading and rereading everything. I don't want to offer his help for him, but I know that phidelt82 has been a massive help to me. I cannot thank him enough.
I came from a crackberry as well and this is way more addictive, haha.
Sighcosis said:
So being new to the android system and having some experience in the past with WinMo and ROMS and flashing the 1st thing I did with my USSC Mesmerize was to of course root it. No reason.
Used z4root and worked perfect (I guess.LOL) Now have Root Explorer and Superuser.
1st question... Is there a way to unring the bell and Unroot or Reroot. *still learning some new terminology*.
2nd Question.. If I flash with a ROM (once I find one that sounds good) will it be possible to do a hard reset back to factory settings through the Power Button/volume button method. (used that one once as I installed and played with different apps to find what I wanted and needed) It shows a menu when rebooting giving a few options on reset.
Last. If anyone can point me to the Roid Hacking for Dummys section I would be forever grateful. Plans are to learn the ROM processes and work into some app development. (some coding experience and chronic insomniac).
BTW Nice to meet ya all ..
and I thought my Crackberry was addictive
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To unroot, I would use Super One Click. It is posted in these forums, just do a search and you should easily find it. Once you have it on a Windows PC or virtualbox, you just have to plug your phone in and click UnRoot.
Once you flash a new ROM, if you do a factory reset, all you will be doing is resetting what is stock for that particular ROM. If you want to go back to stock, you will have to flash the stock files using Odin, or flash a stock ROM and unroot it.
Lastly, if you are considering getting in to developing, it is a lot of fun. Be prepared to learn Linux if you don't already know it. Unfortunately, from what I've found in the learning process, there isn't much in the way of a complete document or guide to tell you how to do it. You just fumble around and learn by trial and error piecing what you read together from other phones and talking to people who are already developing. I have only been involved for a month or so, but I'm willing to help you out with whatever I can. We definitely need more people in the mix.
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I'm using z4root as well. It gives an unroot option at the main screen. I would assume this would unroot the phone, but I am new as well. My phone unroots everytime I put a new ROM on it, which is strange...
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I'm learning but reading and rereading everything. I don't want to offer his help for him, but I know that phidelt82 has been a massive help to me. I cannot thank him enough.
I came from a crackberry as well and this is way more addictive, haha.
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I must have been writing at the same time your were. lol... I'm definitely here to help.
1st and formost.. Thank you for your input. Much appreciated.
I am about to try my 1st flash with the Super Clean mod on these forums.
I do have one other question.
is the MEZ basically same as Fascinate? Can we use same ROMS ?
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1st and formost.. Thank you for your input. Much appreciated.
I am about to try my 1st flash with the Super Clean mod on these forums.
I do have one other question.
is the MEZ basically same as Fascinate? Can we use same ROMS ?
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DO NOT FLASH FASCINATE ROMS... it will make you're phone barf... lol
really though. don't flash anything that isn't for the Mesmerize. I can be dangerous.
but yes they are exactly the same... only different. when you look in our firmware there is still a bunch of leftover vzw crap in there.
Thanks .. LOL seen Fac listed in Clockwork in Downloadable ROMS area. Good thing I wasn't in a adventurous mood tonight .. LOL
I am thinking about flashing the superclean rom, but I'm still a little hesitent until I read into it more. I'm new to phone freedom, my crackberry was not nearly as fun as this phone is. I can't wait to see what we can come up with in the future.
imyp said:
I am thinking about flashing the superclean rom, but I'm still a little hesitent until I read into it more. I'm new to phone freedom, my crackberry was not nearly as fun as this phone is. I can't wait to see what we can come up with in the future.
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I'm still using the pick and pack rom. I like being able to choose what programs I want to keep, rather than having all or none. I flashed with the voodoo and it's significantly faster.
I'm also a former blackberry user and I agree, these phones are freedom.
If you need any help, feel free to ask. I'm new to this and still getting a lot of help from phidelt82, but I'll do my best. I save all my chat files and am making a list of what exactly to do in order to get backups going, flash roms, install kernals, etc.
I've never been able to actually get superoneclick to connect to my phone. it just sits there saying waiting for phone and kinda locks up.
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I've never been able to actually get superoneclick to connect to my phone. it just sits there saying waiting for phone and kinda locks up.
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Try a different version. 1.5.5 works for me but 1.5.1 doesn't.
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Sighcosis said:
1st question... Is there a way to unring the bell and Unroot or Reroot. *still learning some new terminology*.
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I use SimpleOneClick to root and Uroot and it works like a charm
I have rooted my phone 4-6 times and even put it back to factory using the odin files
Thanks to the people on this great forum
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Thanks .. LOL seen Fac listed in Clockwork in Downloadable ROMS area. Good thing I wasn't in a adventurous mood tonight .. LOL
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Actually that's how you get the mes CWM to work. You have to install the clockworkmod using the thread in the apps and dev section, then flash the fascinate recovery to finish it up. It's essential for flashing roms and such.
My question is do you backup the rom on the phone first and if so how or where is a good step by step guide? Also I just got the phone and installed rom manager but can't back up until I root. So I take it that you have to root phone first then back it up using rom manager to install clock recovery? I'm new to all this and been reading but theres so much info my head is ready to blow up lol. Any ways thanks in advanced still getting used to the phone already like it better than the iphone. If there is any other help full tips I would glad to listen. I just want to make sure I get a back up before changing anything. I have already made a goldcard.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970824 read up in there and check out development forum
No kidding. so much to read and dont understand a thing . compared to the tilt2 roms, i think i am gonna have to go back to college and get my degree before continuing !!
Hi guys,
I just got a SGS4G about a week ago and I would like to tweak it a little bit but I do have some concerns. This is my first android smartphone
Here are my concerns:
I would like to do a Backup of my ROM in case I ever want to go back to it. How could I do that? Do I need to install a bootloader other than the one that comes with the phone? if yes which one should I install?
I have rooted my phone and would like to get rid of a bunch of apps but was reading that if you remove some of the apps it could cause the phone to malfuncion. Is there a compiled a list of apps that should not be removed? or this is just not true?
When I'm ready to install a Stock ROM how do I do that? Via Odin? (I can look for some guide if it's via Odin)
Can anyone tell me what would be the benefit of installing Deodexed instead of using the Stock ROM?
Will i always me able to come back to my Stock ROM once i figure how to create a backup ROM?
Am I missing any important point that I should know about?
I would really appreciate if you can help clarify this doubts that I got before i try to do anything.
Thanks
i'm new to all of this too but ill try to answer some questions. Although, I think this thread should NOT be in development and should be in general. I personally have read through a lot of threads to get the answers that I was seeking for.
As far as backup goes, I think its possible through Odin via dump option? don't quote me on that, I have not had to do that before, nor have I read up on it. bootloader as far as i see, i did not need it.
there is a thread in here with virgin rom request, LOOK for it.
There is NO compiled list of apps that you can or cannot delete, but if you read, there is a dl for BLOATWARE, use that as a template to what you want deleted.
Right now, ODIN is the only way that you can flash your phone, and use the two roms listed in this development thread.
From what i read a deodexed rom just helps with file system and structure. I think?
you will always be able to go back to stock, if you have the virgin rom.
Imo, you should read up/skim through every thread in here to see what is available, problems people are having and the fixes for them. I know there is alot of information in here and it maybe overwhelming, but there were 172 views of this thread without any replies because us noobs need to READ/SEARCH. Thats the answers we'll get if we continue to make new threads. Just fyi if your new to forums.
Moved as not android development.
As newbie you should first read and use search
then if you dont see question you want, you just ask it
And about Roms , well i tried that deox v2.2 and didnt like it , switched to stock with removed bloat and love it more but thats for different thread
Well thanks for you answers and I do apologize for posting this here. I didn't know. I think i will go with what you have done. Stock ROM without bloatware. Did you flash the Stock ROM from this forum? or did you just deleted the apps one by one?
I will do the fota fix as well.
moshe22 said:
Hi guys,
I just got a SGS4G about a week ago and I would like to tweak it a little bit but I do have some concerns. This is my first android smartphone
Here are my concerns:
I would like to do a Backup of my ROM in case I ever want to go back to it. How could I do that? Do I need to install a bootloader other than the one that comes with the phone? if yes which one should I install?
I have rooted my phone and would like to get rid of a bunch of apps but was reading that if you remove some of the apps it could cause the phone to malfuncion. Is there a compiled a list of apps that should not be removed? or this is just not true?
When I'm ready to install a Stock ROM how do I do that? Via Odin? (I can look for some guide if it's via Odin)
Can anyone tell me what would be the benefit of installing Deodexed instead of using the Stock ROM?
Will i always me able to come back to my Stock ROM once i figure how to create a backup ROM?
Am I missing any important point that I should know about?
I would really appreciate if you can help clarify this doubts that I got before i try to do anything.
Thanks
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ClockWorkMod is the preferred way to backup your ROM, but it does not seem to be working on the SGS4G currently. I was messing with it one night and actually think I got it to backup the Rom one time but I cannot guarantee that I did because I was working on a supposed fix and did not get a chance to copy the backup file to my computer before it got wiped off my SD card. The process is called nandroid backup. If you have a virgin phone and want a clean backup of your ROM you might want to wait until the fix comes out for CWM.
Once you root your phone you can install Titainum backup. That allows you to backup your apps/Data/System settings. At least that’s what it says it does. From what I’ve read, the best way to backup your apps is with ADB which is part of the Software Development Kit. You can also use Android Commander which uses ADB to Pull your apps to your computer and make a backup there. Check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010006 for info on SDK and ADB commands. There is also a direction to making new apps install to your SD card natively. This link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1001202 also shows that command and how to Reverse/Check status of settings.
The Noobs guide to Oden covers the basics to flashing your ROM fairly well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1001759
The [ROM-ODIN]T959VUVKB5 Stock + Root and [ROM-ODIN] Deodexed KB5 Enhanced v2.2 are the two ROMs that are working now for most people. The first is Odexed the second is Deodexed. Odexed is how it comes stock and takes up less room but making modifications or taking apks from other roms is hard, While Deodexed allows modders to work on the apks & easily change stuff like themes. (Description Taken from Damage's DamageControl Thread) My suggestion is to have some patience and wait for ClockWorkMod to be updated and working for the SGS4G before you dive in too deep. Take some time to look around the 4g posts and read as much as you can to get familiar with what is working and what is not. Check some of the threads with locks on them to see what not to do. There is a wealth of information in these pages.
ClockWorkMod is the preferred way to backup your ROM, but it does not seem to be working on the SGS4G currently. I was messing with it one night and actually think I got it to backup the Rom one time but I cannot guarantee that I did because I was working on a supposed fix and did not get a chance to copy the backup file to my computer before it got wiped off my SD card. The process is called nandroid backup. If you have a virgin phone and want a clean backup of your ROM you might want to wait until the fix comes out for CWM.
Once you root your phone you can install Titainum backup. That allows you to backup your apps/Data/System settings. At least that’s what it says it does. From what I’ve read, the best way to backup your apps is with ADB which is part of the Software Development Kit. You can also use Android Commander which uses ADB to Pull your apps to your computer and make a backup there. Check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010006 for info on SDK and ADB commands. There is also a direction to making new apps install to your SD card natively. This link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1001202 also shows that command and how to Reverse/Check status of settings.
The Noobs guide to Oden covers the basics to flashing your ROM fairly well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1001759
The [ROM-ODIN]T959VUVKB5 Stock + Root and [ROM-ODIN] Deodexed KB5 Enhanced v2.2 are the two ROMs that are working now for most people. The first is Odexed the second is Deodexed. Odexed is how it comes stock and takes up less room but making modifications or taking apks from other roms is hard, While Deodexed allows modders to work on the apks & easily change stuff like themes. (Description Taken from Damage's DamageControl Thread) My suggestion is to have some patience and wait for ClockWorkMod to be updated and working for the SGS4G before you dive in too deep. Take some time to look around the 4g posts and read as much as you can to get familiar with what is working and what is not. Check some of the threads with locks on them to see what not to do. There is a wealth of information in these pages.
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Thanks man! Really helpful. I will read into these threads and probably will wait for the clockwork to work for SGS4G.
I really don't see the advantage of flashing to Deodexed. Maybe i'm missing something?
So I waited for the GB update and I like it but I think it is time to root this phone. I want to stress that I have had this phone since a little bit after it came out about two weeks after and it has run like a champ from day 1. No problems at all so when I updated to gb it was actually a downgrade in some ways like the camera but I definitly like gb because of the text editing but I havent noticed any improvement in battery life or speed or signal or GPS but All thouse things were great before and they are great now.
So I am running GB 2.3.3 withthe july 15 baseband and kernel 2.6.32.9 and I know it is different to root but I dont fully uinderstand it so if someone can post a detailed guide with as much explanation as possible so I understand what I am doing I would greatly appriciate it. I assume you cant get NV flasher from the market (I Havent looked) and what is cwm or cmw and if I flash a new rom will I loose the new baseband? Or can I get root permissions and keep stock GB? Tahnk you for all your help
First read the sticky at the top of the Android Development page. That sticky basically explains everything you will need to know, step by step.
In summary though....
Step 1 - NVFlash (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847)
Step 2 - Download Xboarders Rooted OTA.zip (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179748)
Step 3 - Boot into Clockwork Recovery
Step 4 - Install Zip from SD Card - the Zip you downloaded above
Voila you have rooted GB 2.3.3 with new baseband.
An alternative that I would suggest would be Eaglesblood 1.06 GB 2.3.3 though, smoothest ROM on the boards IMO and based on GB 2.3.3
jabhome said:
An alternative that I would suggest would be Eaglesblood 1.06 GB 2.3.3 though, smoothest ROM on the boards IMO and based on GB 2.3.3
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I've tried both Roms and I would have to sway that Xboarder's Tweaked Rom is the best GB update 2.3.3 Rom.
pdxmatts said:
I've tried both Roms and I would have to sway that Xboarder's Tweaked Rom is the best GB update 2.3.3 Rom.
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Did not try Xboarders tweaked, maybe I will give it a try.
Does swype work on that rom as phone just took a dump with swype beta. First reboot in over two months just now.
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Follow the advice above. I flashed a rom for the first time today.
Does the Netflix app work on xboarder's rom? I'm having issues with HDMI on CM7 going out about every 5 minutes but coming right back. I really need the netflix app for travel.
+1 on xboarders. Runs smooth and has all of the stock features
Sent from my LG-P999
thanks guys that was what I thought. So it really is that easy? What actually gives it the root? is it the xboarders rom? I am going to ask alot of questions because I want to understand how it actually works so please bear with me. It sounds like it actually got easir to root with this update no? It seems like NVflash is a app or program that lets me put the rom on my sim card should I go internal or external? I have a whole bunch of external cards with diffewrent capacitys and the one i use now is 16 gig. Then clockwork recovery is a program that is already on the dvice I dont know if it is part of android or what but it is alrady there right? It lets me choose wether I want to recover or make a backup of roms or install new ones correct? Then when I put the tweeked rom on it has something in it hat roots the phone magically.
Please let me know what I am right about and what I am not right about and give me the correct answers because I really want to know I am a nosey motherfer
Charlie
So According to the thread in this forum titles "how to get the new baseband" the rooted version of the new rom does not contain the new baseband. Or is that the leaked gingerbread that came out a few months ago way before the update came out? He is not talking about xboarders rom right? If I do what was suggested here I will in fact have the new baseband and 2.3.3 rooted right?
Charlie
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mojorisin7178 said:
So According to the thread in this forum titles "how to get the new baseband" the rooted version of the new rom does not contain the new baseband. Or is that the leaked gingerbread that came out a few months ago way before the update came out? He is not talking about xboarders rom right? If I do what was suggested here I will in fact have the new baseband and 2.3.3 rooted right?
Charlie
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If you have the new baseband now no roms will change that.
The roms do not include the baseband .
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thanks guys that was what I thought. So it really is that easy? What actually gives it the root? is it the xboarders rom? I am going to ask alot of questions because I want to understand how it actually works so please bear with me. It sounds like it actually got easir to root with this update no? It seems like NVflash is a app or program that lets me put the rom on my sim card should I go internal or external? I have a whole bunch of external cards with diffewrent capacitys and the one i use now is 16 gig. Then clockwork recovery is a program that is already on the dvice I dont know if it is part of android or what but it is alrady there right? It lets me choose wether I want to recover or make a backup of roms or install new ones correct? Then when I put the tweeked rom on it has something in it hat roots the phone magically.
Please let me know what I am right about and what I am not right about and give me the correct answers because I really want to know I am a nosey motherfer
Charlie
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I flash from my external SD Card. You just need to decide where you want to install from, and then make sure you set up NVFlash with the correct support, external or internal.
Not sure of the exact terminology, but I think the procedure itself would be called to NVFlash ClockworkMod. NVFlash is the procedure to install CWM, while CWM is the program that you will run via Volume Down + Power when you boot up. CWM 4.0.0.2 will boot up and from there you will be able to flash roms, backup and restore Nandroids.
Ah that makes sense Now I see CWM stands for Clock work mod. See I was thinking CWM is a rom I actually thought it stood for cyogen mod I just couldnt figure out the W. So when I flash CWM it contains the root permissions already is that how it works?
So I should use nvflash to install cwm then I should probally make a backup of my stock rom. Also If I just install or flash CWM and not flash a new rom then Will my phone be rooted stock? or do I have to flash the xborders rom to gain root?
Thanks alot guys
Charlie
mojorisin7178 said:
Ah that makes sense Now I see CWM stands for Clock work mod. See I was thinking CWM is a rom I actually thought it stood for cyogen mod I just couldnt figure out the W. So when I flash CWM it contains the root permissions already is that how it works?
So I should use nvflash to install cwm then I should probally make a backup of my stock rom. Also If I just install or flash CWM and not flash a new rom then Will my phone be rooted stock? or do I have to flash the xborders rom to gain root?
Thanks alot guys
Charlie
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CWM doesn't "contain" root permissions, it just allows you to flash any ROM into the phone, rooted or otherwise. The Xboarder ROM is pre-rooted, along with most of the others.
THANK YOU!
I too am a noob and was a little confused. I'd search the forums and come up with too much info. Plus, some terms used on this forum are slightly overloaded (in the C++ context) from the classic meanings, like "ROM" and "baseband". Those terms as used here do not mean exactly what they meant 20 years ago.
I'm sure I need to read more on app dev (but I have too many hobbies already), but I'm confused about the layers of s/w. As a noob, I would think the layers would be BIOS or maybe BSP, Linux, Android. So I don't understand:
1) where does the clockwork mod fit within the layers?
1a) nvdia nvflash installs new drivers in the Linux layer?
2) what is contained in the ROM image? A new version of Linux, andriod, nvdia drivers, baseband?
3) Is there a BIOS/BSP, or is all register access done in Linux drivers?
I'm not looking for a developers level answer to these questions, more of the readers digest version of the answers.
Since I'm having black screen of death (I believe referred to here as "SOD"), on two phones, I'd like to understand more, to figure out if this problem is h/w or s/w. I am definitely leaning towards s/w problems and my wife and I would love to keep these phones.
Thanks again.
-Bob
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Ah that makes sense Now I see CWM stands for Clock work mod. See I was thinking CWM is a rom I actually thought it stood for cyogen mod I just couldnt figure out the W. So when I flash CWM it contains the root permissions already is that how it works?
So I should use nvflash to install cwm then I should probally make a backup of my stock rom. Also If I just install or flash CWM and not flash a new rom then Will my phone be rooted stock? or do I have to flash the xborders rom to gain root?
Thanks alot guys
Charlie
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Continuing off of what Spyvie said, you do need to flash xboarder's rom to gain root, (more like repeating what he said). As for nvflash, this should make things a bit easier. tgagunman made a nice one click feature that if you follow the directions, should be easier to follow. You will get clockwork mod recovery, it will be nvflashed, but it's a lot easier for a non-techie to use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
I want to thank everyone who chimed in you guys have been really good to me Bob has some really good questions also and I hope this thread can help you out bob. That is why I started this thread for people like me who are really good with computers and like to mess around but don't quite understand phones. Every time something goes wrong with my PC I go to the forums and I fix it myself then I feel good. (And I have had some real disasters on my PC I have come back from)
Anyway I will be doing this procedure soon as I feel confident that I can do it and I see there is a fix for unbricking phones. One last question before I hit the green light: Can it be unrooted just in case I have to send it back for warantey issues and can CWM be uninstalled? I suspect that since the ROM is pre-rooted that all I would have to do is format and install my original ROM then uninstall CWM is that on point or no? And Again THANKS TO ALL WHO CHIME IN WITH THE ANSWERS AND I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE OTHERS TO CHIME IN WITH THERE QUESTIONS.
Charlie
Okay so I checked out the links. So I gather that step 1 has to be skipped now because super1click does not work. So we can just NVflash CWM which looks easy enough. Now I have winzip on my computer will that work for extracting .rar files? I am pretty sure it will but I want to make sure. And I am going to shut off user control permissions and I use MS security essentials for my Anti virus so I am thinking of shutting that off for this procedure would that be a wise thing and is there anything else that I should do. I am not a computer expert but I am not a idiot either I am just inexperienced. Thank you guys
Charlie
mojorisin7178 said:
Can it be unrooted just in case I have to send it back for warantey issues and can CWM be uninstalled?
Charlie
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You can restore you Nandroid of the preroot OTA, or you can unroot with the unroot zip that Xboarder provided in his link.
mojorisin7178 said:
Okay so I checked out the links. So I gather that step 1 has to be skipped now because super1click does not work. So we can just NVflash CWM which looks easy enough. Now I have winzip on my computer will that work for extracting .rar files? I am pretty sure it will but I want to make sure. And I am going to shut off user control permissions and I use MS security essentials for my Anti virus so I am thinking of shutting that off for this procedure would that be a wise thing and is there anything else that I should do. I am not a computer expert but I am not a idiot either I am just inexperienced. Thank you guys
Charlie
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no, there is nothing else you need to do to your computer. The link provided by the brother above (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847) is where you need to be. Skip the one click root and go straight to NV flash. It will guide you through installing the nvidia drivers you need. TGA_Gunnman has is laid out really nice and easy to follow and the program he put together (one click clm recovery nv flasher) is really simple to understand and use. he also has another post out there (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060715) that is also helpfull. Once you get nv flash done make sure you copy the rom you want on your sd card. IMO Xboarders is very nice and smooth. You will hold down volume down and power together until you see the android screen. Then in the menu use vol keys to move to backup and restore and use power to select. Then move to yes and run the backup. then you can wipe data/factory restore. Then wipe cache. Then go to advanced and wipe dalvic and batt stats. Then go back to "choose zip from sd" and find your rom zip and select it. It will run for a while and tell you when its done, Then go to advanced again and fix permission. After that just go to reboot option and let it reboot. It may take a little longer the first time, just let it go. When it reboots you will have a rooted 2.3.3 with the new baseband you just updated to. After that go to the market and get Titanium Backup and run a backup of all your apps and data. From there your pretty much good to start flashing away. Have fun, Good luck