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[Q] PANIC

If I break forum etiquette in some way please excuse the lapse - this is my first post to any forum. Honestly, it's a bit intimidating but I'm more than a little desperate right now. Near panic would be a better description of my state.
My Droid Incredible is stuck in a continuous boot loop. 24-48 hours after downloading a sleep sound generating app (if this is relevant), I was trying to use a different app and a pop-up stated "internal error" and would not load the app. I tried another and same result. I tried to kill all running apps with advanced app killer and same result. I turned off the phone thinking that it would correct when turning it back on but no luck. Now it just power cycles in a continuous boot loop. There has been no solution through tech support or a store visit. I don't care about the phone. At this point I would like to strap it to a steak and throw it in a lion cage. I do care about the data its holding - none of which is backed up in any way. There is no sd card and no back-up in my gmail account. I need to try and rescue the following data: voice memos from the HTC app, notes from the 3bannana (catch notes) app, photos, videos, apps, bookmarks from the dolphin HD browser and the Android browser, pdf downloads, text messages, call log settings, etc.
I have tried to boot the phone with a sd card installed. I have tried to view the data from a Celebrite machine at the Verizon store - it sees the drive but not the data. I tried to get into a "safe mode" menu by depressing down volume+center click+menu. Nothing has worked.
Is there any desktop software (or any other solution) that would enable me to restore (rescue) the data from the phone while it is in this state?
If there isn't, please just make something up so I can continue for a while in a delusional state of hope and get over this gradually.
Thank you for your wisdom and mercy.

Kandinsky1 said:
If I break forum etiquette in some way please excuse the lapse - this is my first post to any forum. Honestly, it's a bit intimidating but I'm more than a little desperate right now. Near panic would be a better description of my state.
My Droid Incredible is stuck in a continuous boot loop. 24-48 hours after downloading a sleep sound generating app (if this is relevant), I was trying to use a different app and a pop-up stated "internal error" and would not load the app. I tried another and same result. I tried to kill all running apps with advanced app killer and same result. I turned off the phone thinking that it would correct when turning it back on but no luck. Now it just power cycles in a continuous boot loop. There has been no solution through tech support or a store visit. I don't care about the phone. At this point I would like to strap it to a steak and throw it in a lion cage. I do care about the data its holding - none of which is backed up in any way. There is no sd card and no back-up in my gmail account. I need to try and rescue the following data: voice memos from the HTC app, notes from the 3bannana (catch notes) app, photos, videos, apps, bookmarks from the dolphin HD browser and the Android browser, pdf downloads, text messages, call log settings, etc.
I have tried to boot the phone with a sd card installed. I have tried to view the data from a Celebrite machine at the Verizon store - it sees the drive but not the data. I tried to get into a "safe mode" menu by depressing down volume+center click+menu. Nothing has worked.
Is there any desktop software (or any other solution) that would enable me to restore (rescue) the data from the phone while it is in this state?
If there isn't, please just make something up so I can continue for a while in a delusional state of hope and get over this gradually.
Thank you for your wisdom and mercy.
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If you have a custom recovery image and the partitions aren't corrupt you should be able to recover everything with adb.
If you don't have a custom recovery then it might be impossible to recover anything.
Have you rooted the phone and installed a custom recovery?
With respect to backups - GMail for example is stored in the cloud - so the data on your phone is just a clone - you won't loose your mail - other apps I don't know, you'll have to check each.
If you can't get stable adb access you will need to research a factory reset for your phone which should fix it (but will wipe your data).

djmcnz said:
If you have a custom recovery image and the partitions aren't corrupt you should be able to recover everything with adb.
If you don't have a custom recovery then it might be impossible to recover anything.
Have you rooted the phone and installed a custom recovery?
With respect to backups - GMail for example is stored in the cloud - so the data on your phone is just a clone - you won't loose your mail - other apps I don't know, you'll have to check each.
If you can't get stable adb access you will need to research a factory reset for your phone which should fix it (but will wipe your data).
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Unfortunately, I have not rooted my droid, have no custom recovery image and don't even know what adb is. As you can tell, I am a complete novice - but a novice in serious trouble if I can't recover the data. When you say stable adb access, what do you mean?
I was hoping to find some type of desktop recovery software that may be able to recognize the drive on the phone and then view and copy the data. Is it possible that this might exist. By the way is there a more appropriate sub-forum to place this post?
Thanks for your help,
Caleb

Kandinsky1 said:
Unfortunately, I have not rooted my droid, have no custom recovery image and don't even know what adb is. As you can tell, I am a complete novice - but a novice in serious trouble if I can't recover the data. When you say stable adb access, what do you mean?
I was hoping to find some type of desktop recovery software that may be able to recognize the drive on the phone and then view and copy the data. Is it possible that this might exist. By the way is there a more appropriate sub-forum to place this post?
Thanks for your help,
Caleb
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lol ADB is the Android Debugging Bridge - in layman's term, it's a way to gain terminal access to your phone and do several other things with your phone. Mostly for debugging, but can be used for these purposes if you're rooted/installed a custom recovery.
That said, it would be at this point in time, virtually impossible to save your data that hasn't been backed up. Even if you had root, this might have been a bit more accomplishable (though usually a custom recovery never hurt ). If you're REALLY desperate, there might still be a way, though the chances of it working and providing good results is a mixed bag of results.
I'm assuming that if you didn't have an SD card in there in the first place that it has some built-in memory, right? Well, If not, then Catch notes would not have worked as it depends on an SD card to hold backups and (if i believe correctly) notes. Also, I'm assuming that you had some accounts set up on your phone (HTC/Google). If not, then I don't know how you've gone this long without it, but I'm almost positive you did have at least those two. In that case, the voice memos might be saved as well as the call log settings. Contacts might also be synced, so its more of the physical stuff we need to worry (texts/pdfs/bookmarks/pictures/videos)
Now, there are ways to recover using a computer. It all requires that you get your phone to work again (don't throw it to the lions yet!) So, we'll need to try and unbrick it. Follow the instructions here to try and get your phone back into factory state. It's true this will delete all your data, but as you are now, you have even less of a chance of recovering it.
From here, you're going to just skip past the setups and everything. After that, you're going to mount the phone as a disk drive. Now, this is where things can either go really good or really bad for you.
Get a recovery software for Windows, Linux, or Mac here. I honestly prefer Recuva as it has worked well for me in the past and this other program I had to pay for (can't remember the name. Search google and you might find it ;P), but Recuva should serve these purposes well.
The reason why these things work very inconsistently is that when you delete stuff in your phone/computer, they don't actually get "deleted". Rather, they are flagged as "not needed" and is left there until the phone/computer needs more space. It'll search out any flags, then overwrite them. In our case, that will work for and against us. Since we have to rewrite about 1 GB of data to reinstall the system (or was it +- 500 MBs?) we'll have to assume that about that much will be lost to us. That's why usually videos are unrecoverable. They are large and usually take up the most space, so they will be hard to recover if anything.
However, this works out for us as we can recover things like texts, contacts, your color note files, bookmarks, pictures, and whatever else you can dream of with a very high success rate. This is because they are small enough and if they don't get touched, you can probably get them in their original form. However, if parts of it is overwritten (i.e. texts, video) , you'll know cause the texts will have funky characters that dont make sense and the video wont load. Use this to your advantage and recover only small things first. Rule of thumb: if its small and seen by the software, most likely untouched. Grab these first.
I apologize for this really really long post. I just wanted to explain every part to you so you can understand the thinking behind why I'm asking you to do something as delete your precious data. However, like I stated earlier, there is almost 100% chance you won't get everything back and you could still possibly lose all your data should the software not see it. However, I feel this is much better than not having any chance at all and just staring at your phone waiting for it to grow brains and spit out the data in a conveniently-hidden SD card. So, I hope this works for you and if things go well, let me know! =]
~jojojohnson7410

In case hard reset didn't work...
You can follow the following section by clicking here:
How to revert to factory (stock, S-ON, no root):
Get S-ON by flashing THIS FILE (218.5kb) via recovery the same way you would flash a ROM. If you're not on the stock radio, you'll first need to FLASH THE STOCK RADIO. If you don't know how to do this, then you've never flashed off the stock radio, so you're good.
Revert your phone back to the stock, unrooted ROM. You have two options.
Option 1: Download HTC Sync and run the RUU. You can download the RUU HERE (180MB).
Option 2: Download THIS FILE (172.5MB) and place it on the root of your SD card. Reboot your phone into HBOOT (Bootloader, NOT RECOVERY!!!). Once the bootloader checks the image, it will ask you if you want to update. Select Yes and let the update run. After the phone reboots, you will have a stock, factory Droid Incredible running the November update.
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It's all the way at the top. Do this only if the hard reset didn't work. If you need help using this or encounter any problems, let me know =] (oh, PM me cause sometimes I forget to check >.>)
~jojojohnson7410

[Q] Operator/Network Branding Removal Help

Is there a way to remove branding on the LG P920? I bought the phone outright but it is filled with useless stuff from Optus here in Australia and i am with Vodafone.
Any help highly appreciated!

Aussie Adam said:
Is there a way to remove branding on the LG P920? I bought the phone outright but it is filled with useless stuff from Optus here in Australia and i am with Vodafone.
Any help highly appreciated!
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Just curious,how much does Optus charge for a outright phone,i thought they were available only on the $59 plan.
Dont know if these are any help,but they will remove Optus voicemail and other garbage :
HOW TO TURN OFF ALL OF OPTUS'S GARBAGE
1) Dial ##002# -> Turn off diversions. It works, but only partially.
2) Dial ##21# -> Turn off call redirect. Don't ask me what the difference to the above was.
Now, this is supposed to turn off ALL redirects (below), but Optus STILL didn't want to give up it's useless services! I had to disable them seperately.
So you will need to:
3) Dial ##67# -> Disable Busy redirect. People will NOT GET CHARGED if you're on the phone, and simply get a 'number busy' error.
4) Dial ##61# -> The phone will RING OUT and the caller will NOT GET CHARGED for useless voicemail, which whilst still apparently 'disabled' from above.. Isn't!
5) Dial ##62# -> The caller will simply get a 'phone not available' message, when Out of Coverage area or switched off. No charge-incurring voicemail.
Now, time to turn off useless services like Missed Call Services, which are redundant anyway.
6) SMS 'OFF' (without the ') to 159 -> Disable 'Missed Call Service'. You may get an error, but just keep spamming this number over days/weeks and it will eventually work.
7) SMS 'OFF' to 147 -> Disabled 'Call Recall'

Wow, so much info. Thank-you for taking the time to post all that. I bought the phone from Telechoice for $679, sold my iPhone 4 to get it lol.
I am trying to remove all the icons an menus on the phone that relate to Optus Zoo, there is so a lot. Also there is an Optus screen at startup. My call services are all working fine with Vofafone sim eg; Voicenail and diversions.

root your phone then install root unstaller you can remove anything
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Cheers Mate, really appreciate this solution you have given me, when i can read more info and find an easy way to root that i am confident with i will give it a go. Only been using Android for 3 day's and don't know much yet. It's not easy from what i read here. I am used to the simple jailbreak tools for iPhone for the past 3 years.

Aussie Adam said:
Cheers Mate, really appreciate this solution you have given me, when i can read more info and find an easy way to root that i am confident with i will give it a go. Only been using Android for 3 day's and don't know much yet. It's not easy from what i read here. I am used to the simple jailbreak tools for iPhone for the past 3 years.
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Goto settings then applications then development turn on usb debugging
then connect the phone to your pc
download this http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IKMS0QN3
extract it run super one click as admin click root after it's done reboot the phone
you should see superuser app on your phone

SuperOneClick should be done in less than 20 seconds, if it's stuck then you probably need to load the proper drivers.
Download the LG Mobile Tool from here: http://www.lg.com/uk/support/mc-support/mobile-phone-support.jsp
Run it, set your country and language in the options menu and then press the Install USB Driver button on the right. Doubleclick on LGP920 and it should download and install the proper drivers. If for some reason the LGP920 doesn't show up in the list you can select another country where it's available (The Netherlands for example).
Then follow ik911's instructions again and you're rooted. I recommend getting the Busybox installer from the market and run it once you're rooted to get all the proper tools a rooted phone needs.

Adam ,be careful when you root this phone,several people on this board have bricked their phones after rooting it, unless the branding is severely annoying you then dont do it,its not worth the risk.I dont want to be the one who says "i told you so ".

Thanks for the info you all have provided. I feel that i am confident in the methods supplied but will head Bolino's advice and wait a little longer before i root the phone.
Regards to all for taking time on this,
Adam

I thought you could only brick it if you rewrite the bootloader, but that you can mess up the rom and recovery partitions as much as you like, as restore of the default LG rom/recovery partitions would be possible with the bootloader and software on PC...
Is this wrong? if so, how does it work?
or is this an special case of extra brickability with the Optimus 3D that i should be aware of, and not install common root apps like CWM recovery or ROM managers?
(I ask because I'm getting one in the morning, and will no doubt root it immediately,.. then after that ill gain root access to to OS..)
Thanks

Rooted - What to do and what NOT to do?

okay I just rooted my phone since everyone here told me to. I only did it so I can fix this Skype problem so I didn't have to factory reset.
What exactly can I do now that it is rooted with my LG optimus 3d.
Also I was told there are things you cannot do.
- You can't factory reset or it will brick your phone.
- You have to use usb debugging everytime you plug the phone into your computer.
- You have to have usb mass storage off always when plugging into your computer.

umirin said:
- You can't factory reset or it will brick your phone.
- You have to use usb debugging everytime you plug the phone into your computer.
- You have to have usb mass storage off always when plugging into your computer.
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1. Never heard of that.
2. Yes.
3. Depends

I Am Marino said:
1. Never heard of that.
2. Yes.
3. Depends
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can you explain in more detail.
because when usb debugging is enabled with the phone plugged in there is no way to get anything on or off my phone.
I cannot take the pictures off my phone, I cannot drag music onto the phone, etc.

umirin said:
can you explain in more detail.
because when usb debugging is enabled with the phone plugged in there is no way to get anything on or off my phone.
I cannot take the pictures off my phone, I cannot drag music onto the phone, etc.
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Not true, when you plug your phone to your computer depending on the ROM it will either automatically enable USB mass storage, or bring up a screen on the phone allowing you to put it in USB mass storage mode. Either way, your phone will still function the same (unless using ICS).

I haven't come across a ROM that doesn't let you use mass storage unless that feature is broken on it.
USB Mass Storage should be perfectly usable for you. Especially if you're still running stock.

USB mass storage doesn't automatically turn on when the phone is plugged in, so nothing shows up. I have to manually turn it on.
if usb debugging is not enabled when I plug my phone in will anything screw up?
and what else can I do now?
I have superuser and I fixed my skype problem.

umirin said:
USB mass storage doesn't automatically turn on when the phone is plugged in, so nothing shows up. I have to manually turn it on.
if usb debugging is not enabled when I plug my phone in will anything screw up?
and what else can I do now?
I have superuser and I fixed my skype problem.
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No it won't mess it up if you plug it in with debugging disabled. Probably the most important thing for you to do now is flash a custom recovery, make a nandroid back up and if you want, flash a custom ROM.

lowandbehold said:
No it won't mess it up if you plug it in with debugging disabled. Probably the most important thing for you to do now is flash a custom recovery, make a nandroid back up and if you want, flash a custom ROM.
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how do I flash a custom recovery and do a nandroid backup? What is a safe custom ROM?

umirin said:
how do I flash a custom recovery and do a nandroid backup? What is a safe custom ROM?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1467868&highlight=recovery
That will point you in the right direction to get CWM recovery. The dev forum is not the easiest to navigate. To make a nandroid backup, just go into recovery and select "backup and restore" and then "backup". I can't comment on the ROM's because I don' have that phone.

Download ROM manager from the market. You can backup your existing ROM, install custom ROM's. There is a free version which I used for a while, but wanted to support the developers so I went ahead and got the premium version.
I would also highly recommend Titanium Backup. You can backup wifi settings, sms, mms, apps, etc.

yeah I downloaded ROM manager and I also have the same problem it only shows the 1 version, not my phone listed.
I looked in the thread you linked me... v.4.8.0.7 is a premium version. I found a link on google to download it but it's from my mediafire, I don't know if that's safe it could be infected.
apparently v.4.8.0.7 is the only version that has my phone model.
is there a safe site to download an old version? maybe there is a v.4.8.0.7 that isn't premium.

can I assume it's safe? It's an old premium version so...

Have you tried any root apps? I have recently rooted and finding some of them really worth the trouble of going through the rooting process

you guys really should elaborate a little bit more, or atleast point in the right direction....
1) you can do a factory reset all you want. it's just going to put the phone back into its stock condition. there really isn't a point in doing it though, so don't bother
2) usb debugging mode is only needed if you want to interface with your phone in a certain fashion. read up on ADB. if the ONLY thing you want to do is be able to get pictures from your phone, or put music on it or whatever, you do not need usb debugging mode enabled.
3) again, you can mount your phone as usb storage all you want. it isn't going to hurt anything. the ONLY reason you would NOT want your phone in this mode is when you are doing stuff with #2.
and to be quite honest, before you do ANYTHING with your phone like this again, do your research. i researched for a week before I rooted my phone. i already knew why debugging mode needed to be enabled and when/why i would want my phone in either storage or charge only modes. learn what you can from your specific phones section as taking info from a different phones section and applying it to yours can seriously mess you up. like brick your device kind of mess you up.
here are a few links to get you started:
LG Optimus 3D forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1073
(I noticed that it doesn't have a Q&A section. Ask questions in the GENERAL section, NOT the Development forum)
A VERY general overview of what ADB is and what it can do:
http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=ADB
And if you don't know something, or feel like "winging it" when it comes to altering your phone in any way, stop, don't do it, research and ask questions. Trust me you'd rather be the annoying guy asking the right questions than the idiot that says "HALP! I FUX0r3d my phone!" because you didnt know exactly what you are doing.
ALSO: if the ONLY reason you rooted your phone was to fix this Skype issue, and it has been fixed, you don't really NEED to go any farther. You accomplished your goal. That being said, with a rooted phone the possibilities are pretty much endless. The Devs do awesome work
EDIT!!!!
Here is a link to the actual ROM Manager website. At the top of the page it says "ROM Manager APK" download and install that to your phone.
http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
Alternatively, here is the link to the FREE version of ROM Manager on the Market:
https://market.android.com/details?...yLDEsImNvbS5rb3VzaGlrZHV0dGEucm9tbWFuYWdlciJd
Hope I helped.

umirin said:
USB mass storage doesn't automatically turn on when the phone is plugged in, so nothing shows up. I have to manually turn it on.
if usb debugging is not enabled when I plug my phone in will anything screw up?
and what else can I do now?
I have superuser and I fixed my skype problem.
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I have optimus 3D and when you connect to pc via usb you should see a message on phone saying to press its button to enable usb storage.
Press the button on screen and it will then enter usb storage mode.
Dave
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this is what reason？need root？

Uh oh I do all three of those things probably on a daily basis....
Nandroid backup is your best friend. Get used to using it first and foremost. It's a total snapshot of your system. Once you get used to backing up and restoring a few times, and see how great it works, you'll gain a lot of confidence in trying out custom ROMs, which is where a lot of the fun begins.
It is so easy to take a backup, flash a custom ROM, get your email, calendar, phone, etc etc up and working on it quickly, play around with the settings, then take a nandroid backup of THAT (so you can come back to it and continue playing with it where you left off) and restore your "original" system -- it will be exactly as you left it. You can almost think of it as putting down one device and picking up another... the only limitation being you can only "hold" one at a time.
You can essentially live on 2 or 3 different ROMs at once. I generally have my go-to CM7 ROM which is my daily driver, but I've flashed a few different ROMs to check them out, including some pretty stable looking ICS ROMs.
Titanium Backup is helpful in this regard if you have certain apps and user data you want to bring over to a new ROM you're trying out. I've found doing a whole hog TB restore to a new ROM to be too much at once, and restoring system settings from one ROM onto a completely different ROM is often a square peg/round hole situation.
Lurk around on the relevant forums too and you will learn a lot of things you can try!
Oh as for what not to do - first and foremost DON'T PANIC! Anything goes wrong there is a lot of help available but it might take a little time to work out...
Second I agree with the above posters who say don't do something you don't understand. Read and research first, ask questions.
Third, if you really, really rely upon your device for your livelihood, or you mortgaged your house to purchase it, etc etc, don't mess with it. If you can't afford to be down half a day or two days if you messed something up and it might take a while to fix, go buy a cheap android device somewhere for just fooling around with.

Dubbee said:
Oh as for what not to do - first and foremost DON'T PANIC! Anything goes wrong there is a lot of help available but it might take a little time to work out...
Second I agree with the above posters who say don't do something you don't understand. Read and research first, ask questions.
Third, if you really, really rely upon your device for your livelihood, or you mortgaged your house to purchase it, etc etc, don't mess with it. If you can't afford to be down half a day or two days if you messed something up and it might take a while to fix, go buy a cheap android device somewhere for just fooling around with.
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this is really fantastic advice. this forum (along with others) is an amazing resource, and it's really because of the help you can get from really knowledgeable AND unpretentious people. for someone who is new to root/android like me, it has proven to be invaluable. whatever you mess up, you can probably get fixed. just don't be too hasty or too careful. i came to android from a work-paid-for BB9630 (tour) i did all kinds of crazy stuff to that phone without fear b/c i knew if i bricked, my company would just give me another one no questions asked .. but i recently bought an evo (for personal use) when i switched jobs, and i wanted to root it and mod it immediately..but... i was a total noob to the process with android AND (just as importantly) i COULD NOT just break my phone and get another like it was nothing. so i read and read and read and asked a bunch of questions on various forums. then one day, like a little kid about to jump off the high-dive for the first time, i rooted and flashed a custom rom. pretty scary that first time, but now i flash a new rom a couple times a week. i have learned so much and am now rooted and enjoying all the things that come with that (except for going to bed later.) don't panic...great advice. i love it.

I have factory reset my phone 3 times while rooted. I didn't think much of it. I have a dinc 2, mabey it depends what phone you have.
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I know you can factory reset from recovery but you need to flash a ROM? And your not supposed to factory reset from your phone settings cause it might mess up your phone?
I put them as questions cause I'm not sure.
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[IRC] #HTC_MT4GS - Support Channel for MyTouch4G Slide

Noticed you guys didn't have a support channel 24/7 in case people have issues with their device. I've set this up and granted I can't stay awake 24/7 I would like to see this community more involved. The more support you have for the community the more support for the phone So come in, chat, ask questions, its all up to you!
Server: irc.freenode.net:6667
Channel: #HTC_MT4GS
Browser: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=HTC_MT4GS

Cool idea. Thanks.
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Thank you for this !

This is a good idea.
I tried to connect last night through the device, but it wasn't working out too well.
Is there a recommended way to connect through the phone? Maybe an app that works through the T-Mo network?
Also - Since this has the potential to let people work things out much more quicly/easily... Can I request that if problems get solved or new information is discovered and there are no threads about it, can one be made after the fact?
Anyone who wasn't in the irc chatroom won't have access to that fix otherwise.

Blue6IX said:
This is a good idea.
I tried to connect last night through the device, but it wasn't working out too well.
Is there a recommended way to connect through the phone? Maybe an app that works through the T-Mo network?
Also - Since this has the potential to let people work things out much more quicly/easily... Can I request that if problems get solved or new information is discovered and there are no threads about it, can one be made after the fact?
Anyone who wasn't in the irc chatroom won't have access to that fix otherwise.
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i signed in with the app AndroidIRC, no problem. seems to work better on wifi, but i've used it on the mobile network in the past. i believe the app is a couple bucks in the market.
it would make sense to me to post any discoveries found in the channel into these forums
edit: can't seem to connect to irc.freenode.net via the app while connected to the mobile network only. it keeps saying something about needing to identify via SASL to use this server.

Blue6IX said:
This is a good idea.
I tried to connect last night through the device, but it wasn't working out too well.
Is there a recommended way to connect through the phone? Maybe an app that works through the T-Mo network?
Also - Since this has the potential to let people work things out much more quicly/easily... Can I request that if problems get solved or new information is discovered and there are no threads about it, can one be made after the fact?
Anyone who wasn't in the irc chatroom won't have access to that fix otherwise.
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thats fine ill log the chats in case something comes up

yogi2010 said:
i signed in with the app AndroidIRC, no problem. seems to work better on wifi, but i've used it on the mobile network in the past. i believe the app is a couple bucks in the market.
it would make sense to me to post any discoveries found in the channel into these forums
edit: can't seem to connect to irc.freenode.net via the app while connected to the mobile network only. it keeps saying something about needing to identify via SASL to use this server.
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On a quick search, that's the only one with SASL support, which is where my problem was. When I get the chance to get market apps again it's on my buy list.
I tried to log in through the web page, but on the mobile it was no good on mobile network - I imagine it would be fine on the device through wifi and i'll try sometime. I have no trouble logging in through the webpage on a computer on a wifi network.
The last time I used IRC, mIRC was pretty new, so was my first brush with it over cellular networks. If you had no issues using that app then that'll probably be my answer for out and about.
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thats fine ill log the chats in case something comes up
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That would be fantastic - probably the best way. Over time we can compile a pretty thorough FAQ, if people use it, and the easy web login makes that more likely.

andChat is a way to go.

Yaaic is another one that works

hboot and recovery
I had my phone rooted for months (I think I did it properly using the method from unLocker.com, although when the hboot would load it would say no image found) Then all I would do is run recovery (clockwork I believe) to flash new ROMs... but now I am trying to upgrade to pyr-o-ice 1.1.3 from 1.1.2 and everytime I try to run recovery, it just brings me back to the hBoot. I think I messed things up when I downloaded the Clockwork app from the market and let it do it's "thing". I think it changed my hboot from 1.44.00something to 1.44.1107 (that may be the problem). I have been trying for hours to re-root using the method from unlocker but it is not working. Can anyone help me get recovery working again to flash new ROMs? p.s. Sorry if a solution is already given somewhere, I have looked for a while and haven't found it.

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I had my phone rooted for months (I think I did it properly using the method from unLocker.com, although when the hboot would load it would say no image found) Then all I would do is run recovery (clockwork I believe) to flash new ROMs... but now I am trying to upgrade to pyr-o-ice 1.1.3 from 1.1.2 and everytime I try to run recovery, it just brings me back to the hBoot. I think I messed things up when I downloaded the Clockwork app from the market and let it do it's "thing". I think it changed my hboot from 1.44.00something to 1.44.1107 (that may be the problem). I have been trying for hours to re-root using the method from unlocker but it is not working. Can anyone help me get recovery working again to flash new ROMs? p.s. Sorry if a solution is already given somewhere, I have looked for a while and haven't found it.
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What's your exact HBOOT version number?

my hboot is 1.44.1107

oh wow! I just tried using the using the clockworkmod ROM manager app from the market and it actually worked this time to flash pyr-o-ice 1.1.3_2. I don't know why it didn't work the several times that I tried this before. I guess I will just use this app to go into recovery and flash ROM in the future (kind of better anyways because I don't need to do a battery pull now everytime to go into hboot) apparently this app works to flash stuff. I haven't yet tried to go into Recovery the old way and I guess I don't need to worry about it any more.

It's not necessary to do a battery pull to get into recovery...
...power off (not hibernate, turn that fastboot off in settings!) and wait for it to turn completely off.
...hold the 'Volume Down' button, and then press and release the 'Power' button (maybe 2 or 3 times if necessary while holding volume down...)
When you see the Hboot screen release volume down...
Let it load and settle for a minute, then choose 'recovery' from the menu...
...and that's it.
Not sure where you had to do a battery pull, unless you didn't have 'fastboot' turned off from in the ROM settings menu?
Go to your app drawer, then open the 'Settings' apk...
...find 'Power' in the list and tap it...
...scroll to the bottom and un-check the 'Fastboot' option.
The 'Fastboot' option in the settings -> power menu is a deep-sleep hibernation mode that turns almost everything off, but leaves the tiniest bit of power to one chip so it can wake everything up.
When it's ' off ' in HTC Fastboot mode, pressing the power button wakes the device up skipping a lot of things like hboot and so on to get your device from ' off ' to working in just a few seconds, instead of the minutes a normal boot takes.
Anyways, glad you found a way to get it all working!

That is probably why I would have to do a battery pull (fastboot was never turned off to my knowledge). One problem though... I still can't find the option "power" in the settings menu to actually turn off fastboot. I am running pyr-o-ice 1.1.3_2 right now (that I was able to flash using the ROM Manager app made by Clockworkmod) When I select Settings; it brings me into a series listed as the following:
WIRELESS & NETWORKS... Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, Data Usage, More DEVICE... Sound, Display, Storage, Battery, Apps
EXTRA SETTINGS... Toggles, Clock, Battery Text, Custom carrier label
PERSONAL... Accounts and sync, Location services, Security, Language & input, Backup & reset
SYSTEM... Date & time, Accessibility, Developer options, About phone.
I couldn't find the fastboot setting anywhere in these. Also, I think something is wrong with the Recovery that I was using before ever since my Hboot changed to the 1.44.1107 it is now, because when I am in hboot and try to go into Recovery, it just loops back to Hboot. Luckily that ROM Manager App was able to flash the ROM (pyr-o-ice 1.1.3_2) but I don't know if I would recommend that to anyone else to use as I think when I installed ROM Manager and ran some of it's features, that it probably what changed my HBoot version (and subsequently messed up my ability to use recovery straight from hboot). I guess I am OK though since I can at least flash ROMs, but I am limited from some of the other features the old recovery had to offer.

OK! So, so, sorry... I just went and did a power down and tried to go into hboot (volume down and power buttons) w/out battery pull and it DID go into hboot. I guess fastboot is turned off (even I couldn't find it anywhere in settings still). Sorry for confusing anybody (I'm a little confused myself) And now when I chose RECOVERY, it did work fine ( I have no idea what happened). I guess I just always assumed I needed to do a battery pull since that is what I had to do way back when I first rooted my phone and started flashing ROMs.
I still can't really get my USB to recognize on my computer though with this pyr-o-ice desense 1.1.3_2 (I got the Dual Mount SD app from the market but am having "weirdness"... when I plug in the USB to the phone and PC, I hear the "bloop bloop" sound but no icon pops up in the "devices with removable storage" catagory of my computer. I can only get it to recognize as a drive by selecting the "Power On Auto Mount" feature in Dual Mount SD app and then doing a power off and back on w/ the phone plugged in the whole time via USB to PC... and then that is even hit or miss. sometimes it comes up as a drive and sometimes it doesn't.) I would really, really love to get my phone to recognized as a drive just by plugging it in w/out having to do a power off and back on since I love taking pictures with the phone and getting them to PC asap. If anyone knows any tricks to help me out that would be super cool. And P.S.: sorry I'm such a noob, I am trying really hard and am a bit intimidated by complete lack of knowledge about most of this stuff.

How are there no people in the IRC? .__. It's a great way to chat guys.

the diode of "ALT" and "SHIFT" do not highlights [Pyro Ice
I have these problem: the diode of "ALT" and "SHIFT" do not highlights when i push it. I didint dropped the phone or something. But it is very annoying
How i can fix this bug? Some1 have this bug? Should i just reflash a other CWM?
Thank you

thank you!

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How are there no people in the IRC? .__. It's a great way to chat guys.
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Still no people

[App Idea] Plan B for data recovery on broken stock phones.

I feel this idea could be useful for a lot of us, not on our phones since we are likely rooted but on our family members and non tech friends stock phones. Which we usually end up fixing.
My idea if it is possible would be be for a "Plan B" type app for use after a broken screen, were the completely stock phone without ADB enabled needs data extracted.
My hope is that someone could make a app that is remotely installed from play.google.com that automatically turns on ADB debugging (if possible without root)
After that most data can be extracted with "adb backup" or adb pulls.
I can't count how many times this would of helped me in the past if it existed. Any dev up for the job? I am sure it would be appreciated by people.

Guess no one was interested in this idea.

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Guess no one was interested in this idea.
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I think many of us are interested but one (so far) can help.

would be a good idea.... who ever was in need for something like that will be likely to pay for that... :laugh:

I could see this being a massive security risk. Sure the app could be handy, but it would also make stealing info from a phone very very easy.
So on that note, I don't think it will ever make it through, though I am sure there are ways.
Just install something like SMSBackup+: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zegoggles.smssync
Set it to automatically back up to their gmail, every so often, and then when it comes time to have to do repairs, you can get all of their calling/sms stuff back, since Google automatically deals with the contact infos.

it wouldn't be a security risk since the only way to install it would be from play.google.com which no one can do without your password. also pour planning with other software is not the point of this since I have been asked to recover data from devices by people that I honestly had no clue they owned the device before they broke it.usually family I don't see on s normal occurrence.

I've always been taught to keep a back up of anything you consider important.
Either way...
There are ADB backup solutions out there, there are recovery apps in the Playstore that will scan for missing or deleted files.
If you have access to the Playstore you have access to all the already available recovery apps. Why the need for an app that will basically root and unlock the device from behind their 'lock screen'?
If you have no direct GUI access, you want an app that you run on your computer that forces the phone connected via USB, to unlock and let you access whatever you want before you restore the phone. This is a massive security problem, because anyone could download that app, and use it to break into phones.
Sound like the 'prior planning' apps, are the best way to go.

I think you are missing my point. I know that prior planning is the best but it it not always possible when dealing with people so tech illiterate that even thought they own the device they barely understand it is not a iPhone because that is what a smartphone is to them.
My intended use is for physicaly broken phones (mainly screen) where I can't control any apps with the screen or turn on ADB from settings.
You thought on the security risk is wrong since out of the ways I can think of to install it via play store on the phone is would not be used since that would mean the attacker could just go into settings and do it the normal way. sideloading is impossible since it would be redundent due to that already needing ADB on.
The intended way via the web is safe enough since the attacker would need your email, password.
Do you hate the "Plan B" app that gps tracks your lost or stolen phone that is already in the play store and gave me this idea. It shows in the store as having between half a million and a million installs. Do you think those people should of went without such a app and lost their phone since they should of just pre planned since it is better.