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I know there is a bunch of threads about this but I am considering about a replacement at this point.
My battery is draining pretty fast doing same task as with my Galaxy S 4G. Web, few games, texts, few calls.
My battery life is around 5-9 hours and gotta recharge twice a day at this point. I though it would get better with time, had the phone since launch day.
What are your experiences?
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I get 12-16+ hours heavy use
I'm in a 3g only area so I'm guessing people that live in a 4g network see worse battery drain.... I'd honestly stop all synching and do a full charge with battery wipe
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Any one with same experiences?
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I already tried with about 3-4 factory reset, deleting battery stats with battery calibrator and clock work mod.
Still horrible
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nate420 said:
I get 12-16+ hours heavy use
I'm in a 3g only area so I'm guessing people that live in a 4g network see worse battery drain.... I'd honestly stop all synching and do a full charge with battery wipe
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I don't think 3G/4G makes a difference on battery usage. It's HSPA vs HSPS+, both are 3G, just one is a bit faster. It's not like Verizon where you have 3G and LTE 4G, and one sucks up more juice than the other.
lol yeah, it's pretty funny how all T-Mobile has to do is put a "4G" icon in your notification bar and people think the phone is running on a different network. The only thing that's different than, say, a N1, is that the G2x has a higher top end. Wireless companies have really effed everyone in the head with this 3G/4G BS.
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I don't think 3G/4G makes a difference on battery usage. It's HSPA vs HSPS+, both are 3G, just one is a bit faster. It's not like Verizon where you have 3G and LTE 4G, and one sucks up more juice than the other.
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i just guessed
but this device is know for having driver issues/mega bloatware running unless frozen or removed
and its a android phone... its not going to have a lot of battery left after powering all the bull spit that is running on it/screen/tethering/gps/mms & texting let alone all the other stuff people do with this phone....
talk to tmobile maybe you can get a new battery sent after saying yours is bogusly sucking.....
other than that wait for the drivers to be fixed.... a stable rom like BIONIX that krylon is baking in the oven and a UV/OC kernel MorFic is putting in the steamer as well....
its been less than 20 days this phone obviously has some issue's since LAUNCH
but to just give up like some people are doing and going to the HTC crapsation with 3.0 sense and a locked (not encrypted thank god) bootloader that will most likely have some issues as well is just flat out idiotic....
(i dont mean people dumping the phone are stupid... just expecting too much out of a 2 week old phone)
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I know there is a bunch of threads about this but I am considering about a replacement at this point.
My battery is draining pretty fast doing same task as with my Galaxy S 4G. Web, few games, texts, few calls.
My battery life is around 5-9 hours and gotta recharge twice a day at this point. I though it would get better with time, had the phone since launch day.
What are your experiences?
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all battery's like that....(hd2, nexus s, nexus one, g2x)
My battery goes from full to 99% in about 6 hours when I sleep and wake up. The phone is not turned off btw. I am now using "Juice Defender Ultimate". Paid $3 and change when you get the free version and upgrade it from that free app (otherwise I think it is around $6). I have it at the "extreme" profile which shuts all wifi and data. I disable it and then turn on either wifi or data when I need to use it (Use Switchpro to toggle on and off easily from my home screen). I also the free Advanced Task Killer with only ATK and Juice Defender running. In 12 hours of using the phone a few times, texts, and even surfing the web, and watching 20 mins of video I still have about 80%. It makes a big difference.
I just make sure to use my ATK before I turn the screen off on my phone.
Oh yeah I also rooted my phone and removed all bloatware.
Well, when I had a G2x, it wasn't too bad at the start, but after I tried the HDMI output, the battery life went to hell in a heartbeat, i.e. full to dead within 8 hours with no network connectivity, and the phone always using the battery even when off. I think the HDMI output got shorted somehow to always on, and thus never stopped drawing power for nothing. Besides, my G2 was never anywhere near as bad as the G2x in power usage, even back at stock unrooted Froyo, so to give a blanket statement of "all Android phones suck down batteries like nothing" is simply an over-generalization.
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Well, when I had a G2x, it wasn't too bad at the start, but after I tried the HDMI output, the battery life went to hell in a heartbeat, i.e. full to dead within 8 hours with no network connectivity, and the phone always using the battery even when off. I think the HDMI output got shorted somehow to always on, and thus never stopped drawing power for nothing. Besides, my G2 was never anywhere near as bad as the G2x in power usage, even back at stock unrooted Froyo, so to give a blanket statement of "all Android phones suck down batteries like nothing" is simply an over-generalization.
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im not saying all android phones batteries suck..... but take into consideration what these phones are doing.... and you cant really compare the G2x to any other android phone except the Atrix and o2X because its a dual core...... so comparing it to a galaxy s 4G or a nexus s isnt really giving this phone the credit it deserves
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im not saying all android phones batteries suck..... but take into consideration what these phones are doing.... and you cant really compare the G2x to any other android phone except the Atrix and o2X because its a dual core...... so comparing it to a galaxy s 4G or a nexus s isnt really giving this phone the credit it deserves
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I will try once again and see hoe much it last before it is down to 10%. Wiped battery stats last night and realized that i had unfreeze my account. So i just froze it again and recharged the phone.
Don't get me wrong though i really like this phone alot better than my other two smartphones.
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I've always had Motorola Droid phones. They have excellent battery out of the box, but I truly bumped it up with a few steps.
First off if I buy a phone that has GPS, WIFI, Bluetooth, etc. I plan to keep those functions ON and running ALL THE TIME as I don't want to get in my car and say, ohh yeah let me renable bluetooth etc. No, that's now how I operate. So all the tips below greatly extended battery life without disabling functionality. I do however disable autostarting of apps like Skype, Fring, and Qik. I mean let's face it how often is someone video calling you randomly?
This phones are turning into computers, think about how long it takes to install windows, load all your applications, configure and tweak your settings, register your software etc etc. But just like the more apps you install in Windows the more sh1t wants to autostart when you boot into Windows and load up your task tray (taking resources) is the same way the phones are working.
I recently returned a G2X, not for battery life but for other reasons. I actually was able to improve the battery life using the methods below.
First off, everyone always talks about a task killer. This is a must have. BUUUUT! You have to use it properly and this isn't the main thing that will help you save your battery.
Another must have but NEVER talked about app is AUTOSTARTS. **Root Required**
Autostarts let's you disable items that always enable themselves on certain actions. For example, why does an app you killed relaunch itself randomly? Why does it load on start up? Well autostarts let's you see all apps set to load on startup, also when certain criteria is met. For example, some apps are set to start on "click" of a button for example.
Autostarts let's you disable those apps from EVER starting unless you specifically start it. Let's face it, most apps we download only need to be used when we launch it.
Task killer let's you kill unnecessary apps running in the background, or an app you're down with that you want to kill versus it running in the background using CPU cycles and battery life.
THE KEY IS, YOU MUST NOT KILL OR DISABLE A SYSTEM SERVICE. Most system services are obvious GMAIL, CORP EMAIL, BLUETOOTH SERVICE, WIFI SVC, GOOGLE SERVICES, AT&T/VERIZON/T-Mobile/SPRINT (etc) SERVICES (with the exception of bloatware services).
Task killer will let you see what's running, and place certain items on the IGNORE list so you don't accidentally disable it in the future. Then you need to set your options in task killer to HIDE IGNORED items to further take it from your view.
Those are the first steps. I don't know why AUTOSTARTS isn't more popular. For you computer geeks, it's like MSCONFIG in windows where you disable services that load automatically for no reason.
Also believe it or not WIFI seems to use much less power than AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint's 4G network. And let's face it, neither of the aforementioned carriers are really giving us much with their 4G. Wifi still beats them in speeds, and of course Verizon LTE sh1ts on them. So keep your WIFI on when in an WIFI area like home, work, etc. You'd be amazed at just how much battery life that alone can save.
Next, I followed the steps below taken from another thread started by spencersir2, many of the steps I had never done before on previous phones, but I did on a G2X and Atrix and it actually did help even further. I only listed the steps I used that helped, he recommended installing a lot of other software that in my opinion only adds to the problem.
All the steps work for any Android phone, but some of the steps are specific to T-Mobile (i.e. wifi calling option)
Root The Phone. There is plenty of links and help if you don't know how or have questions about rooting.
(Root Needed) Set CPUand it does nothing but save battery. I currently have it set on 216 - 1000 for when the screen is on and the only profile i have is for when the screen is off and it is at 216-216.
(Root Needed) Battery Calibration. I'm still skeptical if this helped but it can't hurt. Because I did everything at once, I didn't individually test this to see if it made a difference. It doesn't hurt so just do it.
Wifi Never sleep. Supposedly according to some if you change wifi to Never Sleep it will stop some loop in the programing which in turn will save battery. - TRY AND SEE IF THIS HELPS, I THINK IT DOES HELP THE G2X NOT SURE IF IT HELPS OTHER ANDROID PHONES
T-Mobile specific - Wifi Calling. If you didn't decide to freeze/uninstall this app. Make sure that this is OFF, because whenever you have wifi on it will constantly flip between Wifi Calling and normal radio towers, which once again is bad for your battery life.
RECAP:
- Root Phone
-Download SetCPU from market. G2X users, select NVIDIA Tegra 2 at launch of app. Other users select one best appropriate for your device. Create a profile that says SCREEN OFF MIN=216 MAX=216. You may need to adjust the max to wake phone up faster depending on your phone. You shouldn't need to bump the max up to more than 400 something. This only reduces CPU speed when screen is off. Helps with battery!
- Download Autostarts from market, look at all that's running under each column, disable anything you don't need to autostart
- Download Taskiller (it's the red guy, not the green one). Hide system services by long pressing on icon, then select IGNORE. Then go to options and say HIDE IGNORED ITEMS. This so you don't KILL an important system app. (Read above for details on what is a system app)
- Use WiFi whenever possible. Uses much less power than 4G. Not sure about 3G but 4G is a battery killer. If you have Wifi, use it. It's faster anyway.
- Change Wifi settings to never sleep (test for a day see if helps or not, if not change it back to default setting). It helped G2X not sure if it helps other Android phones.
- Disable Wifi Calling (T-Mobile only)
- Download battery calibration from market, not sure if it helps but it def didn't hurt anything. and it's very simple.
I've tried all the tricks listed before (freezing apps, doing the secret menu, etc), and still had TERRIBLE battery life. I tried installing an app (switch pro), and had a toggle switch for data on and off thinking it might help. It helped just slightly. What did work, was putting a 2g-4g toggle switch on, and it has made a night and day difference. This, and I used the battery calibration program a few times, and in clockwork. Normally, I wake up at 6:30am and by the time it's 4pm I was normally down to 35ish %. Now, I'm at around 85% when I leave work. I'm thinking it has to do with the 2g, but it doesn't make sense that when I toggled data off, I got terrible battery, and just switching to 2g makes that big of a difference. Either way, I'm SUPER happy with battery life now.
i really have to question people saying they get 20+ hours of battery life, i mean if i stop all sync, disconnect 4g and only use 2g, not use the internet, shut off wifi, no bluetooth and do all the tricks that people have suggested. I still don't get a full day's use. but what the H is the point of having a super phone that i can't use it's functions i might as well get a clam shell phone that lasts 3 days without charging. I really like this phone but at this point the battery life is killing me i have to take like 3 different chargers everywhere i go!!
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I don't see how you guys are still having battery problems. One a full charge, i'm able to get at least 12+ hrs with moderate to heavy use. Facebook and 3 email sync is set at 1 hr. About 100+ text and 10 emails a day. Wifi is on the whole time. Wifi calling as well. My screen brightness is set to auto. GPS is also always on.
I have to admit, the first few days, the battery life was about the same as my hd2 running android, but its gotten better now and its amazing.
Solution: buy a new battery.
Ive searched around and this seems to be a common issue, I tried the factory reset even the htc battery conditioning where you charge fully turn off then another hour back on for 2min off again and charge for another hour with no positive results, I read online some ppl are getting -1/-2 mah an hour I have never seen single digit in my phone.
I included screenshots of my battery drain even adjusted the app to read 1500mah, anything else i missed in settings? Also went into phone information in the Tests menu set it to auto instead of GSM, also with SetCPU I tried underclocking with little change to mah usage, running out of ideas...
Currently its rooted with GingerBreak, and CM7 with #48 nightly installed, any help would definitely be appreciated.
How many hours is your phone lasting on a single charge?
Lately between 5-7hrs one had about 8 and half hours a handful of times
it's true that if you constantly use the phone nonstop like watching youtube, browsing, playing games, etc. the battery won't last longer than 4 hours without getting an extended battery, heck just using moderateley the battery will be about 50% by the end of an 8 hour workshift, but what I found that will extend the battery life with moderate use are these...
1. Turn of wifi, bluetooth, gps, sync. (contrary to what ppl say on this forum I find that wifi eats way more battery than being on 4G)
2 Disable background data. (The only thing I actually need background data checked is to use the android market or maps when I need to, with it off it's a huge battery saver)
3 In settings choose to use only 2G (This will increase battery life 4x and Tmobile 2G is pretty fast, just like 3G)
4 Download Opera Mini (Since you'll be using 2G to save battery you'll want to surf the web with a browser that is super fast using slow connections, and Opera mini is second to none. You can always turn on 4G when you want to have fast video streaming but then you eat alot of battery again.)
5. Install Auto Airplane Mode (you can turn auto airplane mode on when you're not gonna be expecting calls such as at work or when you don't want to be disturbed, hell, if you just want to save as much battery as possible. Since Auto airplane mode disables the radio and data completey which is the number 1 cause of battery bleed with it on from a full charge unplugged you'll still have a 100% when you wake up your phone after a day.)
6 Install juice defender (free is fine)
7 Don't use Lookout Antivirus (I've found Lookout drains the battery quick, if you want an antivirus that doesn't eat the battery try AVG. I prefer AVG because I notice it does not drain my battery like Lookout.)
This has made my phone last more than a day on stock battery with moderate to light use. If I think of more tweaks I'll add later
This is ridiculous. If you have to turn off all those features, then don't even bother getting a smartphone.
My tips are:
1- Set brightness to auto.
2- Avoid Skype and other apps that usually appear as On going on the status bar.
3- Get rid of any task killer. They actually make the battery life worse. Don't worry about tasks running in the background, the OS takes care of them. If you wanna quit an app, try to look for a quit button by pressing the settings button when the app is on the foreground. Otherwise, just press the back button below the screen until you get back to the home screen (for some reason this seems more efficient than just pressing the home button.)
4- If you don't use IMs, get juice defender and set it to disable data when screen is off. It will turn data automatically on once you turn the screen on by pressing the lock button on the top of your device. Note that this is different compared to auto airplane mode, with Juice Defender you can still receive phone calls and text messages when the screen is off.
Last but not least, consider purchasing an extra battery and/or car charger.
Mine usually lasts for about 12 hours with moderate to high use. Almost all smartphones have short battery life if used heavily.
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Lately between 5-7hrs one had about 8 and half hours a handful of times
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Yea that's awful. Do you by chance have your brightness set extremely high? And how is the cell coverage where you usually use your phone?
I think all of the advice above is valid and will save your battery. The question is to what extreme do you want to go? I tend to agree with donatello88 that there comes a point when you get so paranoid about battery life that you may as well not have a smartphone because you've turned off most of its features.
Get rid of any task killers, battery monitors, etc. They are simply churning thru clock cycles and that uses more battery. Set email, Facebook, etc to check for updates less frequently. Either use auto brightness or manually set your brightness to about 25-30%. That should b bright enough for everyday use unless your in bright sunlight a lot. Use juice defender if you like. And be wary of antivirus apps. I've heard some can suck ur battery dry.
If you do those simple things and are still getting only 5-6 hours then I'd be taking it back to T-Mobile ... unless of course you're on your phone without ceasing. In that case, what can you expect? Lol
Ok with the tips I just mentioned above, I got a chance to put it to real world test. I caught the bus to my son's grad ceremony and reached there at 4pm ceremony didn't start till 6pm so those 2 hours just surfing the web reading articles and forums I was down to 90% battery. Didn't know how long the ceremony was gonna be so called my sister on video chat using tango and spoke to her for about 20 minutes. Did some more browsing using opera mini set to only use 2g for another 2 hours, my don came out, I took some pics and video of him turned on 4g to video chat again with my duster for about 5 minutes, and after 4 non stop hours of consecutive use with screen on, I'm now at 71% battery life. I'm at the bus stop now on my 12 mile commute home and I'm confident the battery will give me more entertainment until I get home. Awesome! You don't have to believe me, just try out my tweaks and you'll be amazed.
Everyone thanks for all of the help and tips, today was the first day I saw 10hrs+(included screenshots), I had my screen on auto and after some reading saw that with CM7 it doesnt work well so I have changed it down to 20-40% depending on where I am, turned off background/auto sync only turn it on when I need it and uninstalled the app killer I was using also changed a few of the SetCPU profiles.
Im not really a heavy user just wondering if having 3email accounts set to update every hour would be a battery drain too? I mostly text/email during the day and talk about 1-2hrs depending how busy I am at work.
Again I thank everyone for pointing me in the right direction...unfortunately at home I have 1bar to none for service so I do depend on Wifi calling which im sure drains more juice, also at work since it in a high rise not too much cell signal so wifi on most of the day...
[Ultimate GUIDE] Increase your battery life on Android
risho said:
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Hello risho,
I was having the same kind of battery life... After 3 months of research, I collected all valuable tips.
"Valuable tips" means: tips that do not need constant involvement from your side (you don't need to go switch on/off things, etc..) and also that leave you with a very functional phone (you have location when you need it, you have e-mails flowing regularly enough, etc...)!
With these tips, I am now lasting from 6am to 11pm and at 11pm, remaining battery is 10% at least!
Go and check my thread: [Ultimate GUIDE] Increase your battery life on Android!
Enjoy!
Anyone knows a good battery saver for inspire 4g?
The best battery safer is no safer. Turn off autosync, GPS, WIFI. Put push mail to long intervals, decrease the brightness of your screen. But the best safer is: Don't use the phone at all as a smartphone but as a 2G phone only
Juice defender
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Juice defender
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Oh come one! another app which is running in the background?
Yup. Works great too.
DONT use any battery saver apps or similar as all they will do is make ur phone run all laggy
Lol. Okay guys listen. All you die hard "don't install anything on your phone ever, because it will make it laggy people" need to really give it up.
Sure, you could save battery by turning off every single option then remembering to turn them back on when you need to use them. But why? Not every user is super hardcore as you guys. I guarantee 90% of users in here have the ability to charge their phones thru out the day, be it in a car or at work etc. I for one like the fact that with juice defender, I can walk into my house and my phone will automatically connect to wifi and shut my data off, without me having to do anything. I like the fact that I can stop my apps from randomly connecting and syncing when I don't want them to and will only do so when I physically open them. I like the fact I can make my phone auto sync itself when and where I want it too. I'm sure most people are the same. Sure it runs in the background but at what cost? A tiny bit of extra juice that is unnoticable to the average, if any, user. Get over yourself people, phones are a convenience why are you always trying to make it an inconvenience by having to remember to switch things on and off in order to save a few minutes of battery time. Unless you don't have access at all to any sort of charging thru out the day, then your options are slim. But I'm willing to bet that's a very small majority of people. There are other apps out there besides juicedefender too. Like tasker, except I don't feel like going back to college just to figure out how to use it.
Bottom line. If you're worried that much about lag and battery, then smart phones just aren't for you yet. Wait a few years then try back.
To the original poster. Get juicedefender and install it, it does help battery life in day to day usage and causes no lag at all.
This is all just my opinion and personal preference tho. Do with it as you will.
Saving Your Droid Charge's Battery
We all know that the droid charge is decent with battery but some functions just drain it so quick that it seems like its the phone itself. I have posted in several other threads about saving batter. I wanted to put together a single thread on all of the many ways as to save your battery. Some of these ways can be done through various apps free and paid. Some users of android opt to buy an extended battery for their phones to combat the high power consumption of the phone. This isn't always the best way to handle this as with the extended battery, you are very limited almost never going to find a case that protects your phone. Here are several factors that drain the charge's battery:
1. 4G. Its a known fact that Verizon's 4G connection is the fastest LTE that is in the market. This function is one of the most battery intensive functions that the phone has. While this radio is active it pulls a lot of juice from the battery to ensure that you stay connected and have the highest bandwidth possible.
2. Mobile Data. Keeping this function on allows you to recieve your email notifications, mms, and all other apps that require a data connection. This function can use 3g or 4g connection for data.
3. Screen Display. Though with the super Amolled plus screen is the best on the market, this is THE most drain on your battery.
4. Accounts and Sync. This function is a harsh one to control because it isn't always active and can run in the background or while the phone display is off.
I have listed some of the major functions of the phone that drain the battery. Below are some steps to prevent and/or help your droid charge last throughout the day. I use my phone at work while I am away from my computer or just during breaks and can last throughout an entire 10 hour work day without worry of my charge going dead.
1A. 4G. There are several things to be done to ensure that you don't let one of the droid charge's best feature become your worst enemy. While not using your phone for any data intensive apps, you should always turn this feature off to conserve battery. To turn this feature off, while on your home screen: Menu-->Settings-->Wireless & Networks-->Mobile Networks-->System Selection-->and choose CMDA Only (this is the 3g Network).
There is an easier way to get this feature on and off by a 4G toggle app and is linked here--> https://market.android.com/details?id=com.coreyapps.togglelte
2A. Mobile Data. While the above should be done every time you use/don't use your phone for data, this should be turned off always if you are connected to any wifi source. This also ensures that both your 3g and 4g radios are turned off while in a poor signal area and will save your battery the strain from trying to gain a signal. While turning this off, you will not receive data unless you are connected to wifi, but you will be able to receive calls and sms messages.
3A. Screen Display. This is the number one cause of battery drain. While there are preventative measures to ensure that you limit the strain, if you are using your phone a lot for anything, you will need to charge any device. You should pick a screen lock out timer that best suites you and you should let the phone turn the display off. I have mine set to 30 seconds and believe this to be the happy median between the two extremes. 15 seconds seems to be to short and 1 min is way to long. Note: If using the phone there should be no reason to use over 30 seconds.
4A. Accounts & Sync. This function isn't as bad as the others but can leave you puzzled if this is your first droid. This is the silent killer...To combat this only allow your phone to sync over wifi and the best is to set times to sync every 12 to 24 hours. I use 24 hours and it syncs around 2 a.m. while I am sleeping. To get your phone on a schedule like this, stay up to the wee hours of the morning or until you know for sure that you will be at home at the time for the sync to occur. When the time is right, go through the Manage Accounts and through each of your accounts and sync.
There are many other factors that could play a role in your phone not lasting the day. With the newer phones and the 4G capabilities, we should train ourselves and not our batteries. With this it is up to each individual user to ensure that they manage their phones in a proper manner for proper results. I have used an extended battery until i got fed up with not having a case for my phone. Once going back to the stock battery, I had to train myself to manage my phone to ensure that I could last an entire day on one full battery charge.
Contrary to popular belief, giving your Droid Charge some extra juice throughout the day isn't a bad thing. A full uninterrupted charge is best at night but throughout the day it isn't bad to sneak a good 10-15 min charge in. My battery life is amazing with following my routine of things when I use and don't use my phone.
There are several apps that can aid you squeezing the most life out of your battery. Juice Defender is the main one with many options and very customization.
Please let me know if anyone else has any more information on either battery intensive apps or functions and ways to correct them and I will be sure to update this post for everyone. Hope you enjoyed my write up.
~jkbucksot
Whats the point of having this great phone if you have to go through all that?
blueis300 said:
Whats the point of having this great phone if you have to go through all that?
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For me I use it while away from my desk and don't want to take my laptop into the server room. I don't have time to sit at my desk and charge my phone. I am in a work place where there is no cell service.
Go ahead and see how long your battery last without service, your radios will suck it dry within a couple of hours.
Didn't say you have to do all of that, as there are apps to help you achieve it.
A black wallpaper helps too.
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Ive seen other posts like this before. I know you're trying to help but there's no way I would go through all of that to have a smartphone. What kernel are you using? What Rom? I use my phone throughout the day a lot. I can go 10-12 hours with HEAVY use without turning my phone into a dumbphone. Not all of the time but most of the time you are doing something wrong if you're getting 4 hours of heavy phone use. Either that or you're on the wrong Rom/kernel and/or haven't calibrated it correctly. In my opinion, what's the use of even having a smartphone like this if you're going to constantly turn it into a dumbphone?
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Ive seen other posts like this before. I know you're trying to help but there's no way I would go through all of that to have a smartphone. What kernel are you using? What Rom? I use my phone throughout the day a lot. I can go 10-12 hours with HEAVY use without turning my phone into a dumbphone. Not all of the time but most of the time you are doing something wrong if you're getting 4 hours of heavy phone use. Either that or you're on the wrong Rom/kernel and/or haven't calibrated it correctly. In my opinion, what's the use of even having a smartphone like this if you're going to constantly turn it into a dumbphone?
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I haven't had a steady rom/kernel package in the last week. I have been testing Imnuts new infinity1031 build.
Your not turning your "smartphone" into a "dumbphone". You are managing your phone. No one said to completely turn off notifications/app updates (ie weather) on your phone.
When you say that you get 10-12 hours of heavy use, do you mean data use or just sms messaging etc? Also there is no phone out there that can stay connected to 4G using data and last 10-12 hours.
So your heavy use, isn't really heavy...
I agree, I can get two days or whatever on my battery UNTIL I run Sirius Radio online (& I have 4G)
If I listen to the NFL Sirius online channel I can't make it through a standard work day without using a fat extended battery (& it doesn't matter what ROM/modem I'm using)
~John
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I haven't had a steady rom/kernel package in the last week. I have been testing Imnuts new infinity1031 build.
Your not turning your "smartphone" into a "dumbphone". You are managing your phone. No one said to completely turn off notifications/app updates (ie weather) on your phone.
When you say that you get 10-12 hours of heavy use, do you mean data use or just sms messaging etc? Also there is no phone out there that can stay connected to 4G using data and last 10-12 hours.
So your heavy use, isn't really heavy...
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I never turn anything off. Data is always left on (4G). When I am at home, I will connect via wifi but when I go to work or church or whatever Im on 4G. I have my notifications set to check every hour (Facebook, twitter, tapatalk, Gmail, weather, and Google plus). I text quite a bit throughout the day. Probably on the phone talking an average of 30 minutes a day. I jump on the browser quite a bit. I read twitter, Facebook, and tapatalk quite a bit throughout the day so screentime is average of about two hours. I listen to music at least an hour or so a day. So, again, consider myself fairly heavy user. It seems like I'm always on my phone.
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Same bosy ad sodk msybe a bit more ecyensive about 7 hours i am comoletely dead i am runnung humble 1.6 looking for a rom kernal package that gets me a bit better than that
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Same bosy ad sodk msybe a bit more ecyensive about 7 hours i am comoletely dead i am runnung humble 1.6 looking for a rom kernal package that gets me a bit better than that
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Huh?
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Sorry don't know. About. This. One might have been drinking. This. Time my bad thanks anyway
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I work in a huge metal building, opposite in a 4g area. I've found my 4g radio will drain my battery fast if the 4g signal is low. This is because the phone will keep increasing the power out until it gets good 2-way communication with the tower. If you're using 4g in a good coverage area and have good signal you're probably not going to see the battery drain nearly as much. Personally I use tasker to automatically control the data connection as I move between work and home. I use WiFi at home since its less battery intensive than 4g.
I finally decided I would take some extreme measures to aide the BL of my Androids. I have an HTC Inspire and HTC HD2 with Nexus S Android. The HD2 isn't all that bad...much better BL than the Inspire, but I wanted to apply this measure to both phones. Will it help? Only time will tell.
I started by removing all screen widgets. Then I sorted the screen icons so that a minimum of homescreens were needed...got it down to 2 homescreens. Then I deleted all widgets without apps not able to be opened through an icon. Then I went into Applications manager and cleared and stopped all non-used apps and services. I also deleted all duplicate services such as OEM email accounts and their associated syncing....using add-in apps for them. (example: built-in apps and widgets like Facebook, Twitter are uninstalled or disabled and am using another combining app like Seesmic. Same goes for the email app)
What I currently have is an Android iPhone. I'm using only icons on the 2 homescreens. And this makes me understand why Apple refuses to use widgets and stick with icons...to preserve BL. I hope this will improve the BL of my Androids because it is purely horrendous. And it is horrendous with all Androids I've tried and used.
Until the recently announced battery tech breakthrough is made available, this might have to be how Android is used from now on. But I doubt these extreme measures will actually help.
What is the difference between a widget and an application?
An application is a single, whole program package that is loaded into the phone. Examples would be Tapatalk, the default Calculator, and Angry Birds.
An application can have one or more widgets in it -- a widget is an interactive thing you can place on the home screen. It can give you information, and you can tap on it to change what it says. A good example of that would be Beautiful Widgets, or the little Android guy that tells you about how to use your new phone.
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@Marty, how long was your battery lasting prior to the "Extreme Makeover"? Mine currently will last me 2 days. Admittedly, I've not loaded a lot of stuff on the phone yet, and I have the power saver mode start at 70%...but I only need to recharge every other day.
My desire lasts around 2 days with moderate usage. But on a good day (read: many boring moments), it's completely depleted by the end of the day. My biggest battery drainer is whatsapp, if I uninstall the app my battery will last a LOT longer.
If i really need my phone to last for a long time (when Im on a big trip or on a festival) I always use JuiceDefender with a very strict setting. This is a big help, but not for everyday use
whats the point? Where ever you sleep you have access to a plug/usb w/e so whats the big deal ? how hard is it to charge the phone every night? even thought my galaxy s2 hold battery for 40hrs+ i never need that :|
Ive dont the same thing, I also found some build prop and init.d tweaks that improve battery life.
my brightness is always at minimum, i have only one widget,
My battery could last two days BUT i use my phone a lot. like its on for 7 hours with 4.5 hrs screen on.
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whats the point? Where ever you sleep you have access to a plug/usb w/e so whats the big deal ? how hard is it to charge the phone every night? even thought my galaxy s2 hold battery for 40hrs+ i never need that :|
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Hilarious.
ther have been many apps and disucssions on BL. heres some common tips.
screen to lowest brightness possible setting. background data always off unless using market. disable -use wireless networks- options, no gps, no location. also turn off *back up my data*. wifi always off not in use. screeen timeout no more than 2 minutes. turn off animations and transitions. setcpu with moderate settings (if you can do a screen off profile it will be beneficial but beware Sleep of Death.) no live wallpapers. minimum widgets or none. minimum homescreens or 1. startup manger. adfree. location cache app. and battery calibration to get the most juice.
the issues seems to be alot with hardware the Htc inspire and HD2 have 1250 Mah Batteries , which are very small.
If some people are just like me... I can kill at 1800mah battery in 5 hours even at full charge...
I do everything on my smartphone. So anything to save the battery is a good way.
I have the Galaxsy S II and I've managed to drain the battery in 6hours of usage and since I'm not near a power source most of the time then yeah I need all the juice....
I don't sit in an office or am near a power source 80% of the time. I usually carry 2 spare batteries with me and a charger for them just in case.
Cheers! (Extreme power user).
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whats the point? Where ever you sleep you have access to a plug/usb w/e so whats the big deal ? how hard is it to charge the phone every night? even thought my galaxy s2 hold battery for 40hrs+ i never need that :|
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grudas said:
whats the point? Where ever you sleep you have access to a plug/usb w/e so whats the big deal ? how hard is it to charge the phone every night? even thought my galaxy s2 hold battery for 40hrs+ i never need that :|
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Whats the point??
Here is my daily usage :
Alarm goes off at 6:30am (phone gets unplugged)
Blahblah (at work) reply to emails and messages throughout the day, on twitter A LOT (plume premium)
2 calls approx 30 mins each
Play some games at break and lunchtime (Drag racing KILLS my battery, a bit of plants vs zombies, grave defence HD and maybe some pinball deluxe)
more emails and twitter
another 20min call
a little more gaming while im waiting on customers (1hr or so??)
6pm go home for 6:30pm
BAM! battery is at 10-20% and i need to plug it in again.
this is a typical 12hr day for me and im sure others have longer days and i would appreciate not having to rush home (sometimes) if im expecting a call.
so as far as im concerned anything which will save some precious battery on my devices is appreciated.
btw i have reduced my homescreens to 3 and only have 2 widgets running and that has made a great difference to my battery life (esp. on the DHD)
Irvysan
Basically kill factory and carrier bloatware and you are getting better.
One thing I was amazed about was the eBook reader that comes with our Galaxy Tabs, and suppose others too.. it always working even if you dont have or use it.
And remember, the screen is what takes most out of your BL, always. Lower brightness? Get a better ROM with no bloatware and maybe undervolt the screen.
Homescreens dont change a bit. Widgets do, if they update a lot.. more than that notification stuff do. Like if you use a antivirus or antisomething, just check of notifications.. check of any unneeded notifications.
Vibration theorically is what consumes the most.. but since its not as used as the screen, you dont even compare them. But every little bit helps. Check off keyboard clicks and hepatic feedback - vibrations.
Wifi, bluetooth, data... don't actually consume much.. actually it's better if you leave a service stable on, than keep sleeping and switching it. So leave wifi always on, no sleep policy. But when you go out turn it of so it doesnt keep scanning all the time (unless you want to ).
Just like any PC, the more you install.... Just check what you got going on, learn how to check processes and services that keep on all the time, and there are some utils to help stop some crap from starting up. I use ROM Toolbox and Autostarts.. some stuff get activated just because you plug you device to charge!
DONT use task killers... dont let anything like that keep running... and no, GMail push notifications wont use any batt. Maybe pop/imap emails always pollling will use some.. but probably nothing compared to the examples above.
Cheers for my 2 cents.
EDIT: and after Xmas, remove those animated wallpapers!
Is Juice Defender a task killer? Not really sure what is it but I've been wondering about that.
Juice Defender Ultimate has been giving me about a 1/3 more time with screen on max. Why is my screen on max, because I was trying to drain the phone. It's on about 40% now which is still pretty bright. I wouldn't be mad to get more life but I think 20+ hrs with moderate use isn't bad. I think the most I did was search the net about 4 hours total. But I was also, customizing, so it the screen was lit for a while.
This is a TMO GSII I'm talking about.
There are a ton of things you can do, but the truth of it all is that our 3G/4G radios pull so hard they drain the battery, which is why you were on the right track when you disable active since, Facebook and Twitter.
The main two things I do, is
1. add a widget for turning off 3G or 4G (If its in your area).
2. Installed Startup Manager ( it disables startup programs in the unseen background, (my phone is rooted)).
by doing these two things I am able to get 17hrs+ on a standard HTC EVO 4G battery. Keep in mind the more you use the Internet the more it will drain your battery. So I only turn the internet connection on when I need it or the app needs it.
*I also only use one screen and remove unnecessary widgets but I find that doesn't help the battery life all that much, (my personal Preference)
*When I or my sons game on my phone I put it on Airplane more which turns off all Radios including the Phone (call/text)
*Drawback to turning 3G off, you have to wait a few second for the internet to come back on and MMS won't download through your messenger unless have it one.
I've been off the charge for 8hrs and my battery life is still at 65%
Sorry to be long winded but if I know anything its battery life
Completely agree. What's the point. Either you don't use your phone for ANYTHING, and watch the battery last for 2 weeks (literally), or you use it so heavily that it lasts only 2 hours....
I was sick recently, and as such couldn't use my phone (I couldn't open my eyes without getting dizzy, and even closed.... still was). Suddenly my HTC Inspire 4G used only 20% of the battery in 10 hours. The previous day, heavy mail, "friendstream" (HTC's facebook/twitter/etc app/widget), listening to music (well, audiobooks) for about 8 hours, and I had only 20% left. And i've found that overclocking the phone to 1.3GHz helps more than any other tweak.
Don't get me wrong, I'm obsessive about using my phone *and* getting awesome battery life out of it. But the ONLY way to true "maximize" your battery life is to *minimize* your usage. But then you might as well buy a feature phone.
And I know a few people with iPhones. a 3GS and a 4 and a 4S. They don't get any better battery life than I do. Heck, they get worse. Even under the same type of usage.
For me, the problem isn't the usage, isn't what's running, or what's loaded (but it does help/hurt). The problem is that battery technology has NOT kept up with consumer needs, or IT development. Your battery is dying as soon as it leaves the factory. Your battery is dying every time you change it. Especially when it gets hot. your battery dies faster when it's cold outside. We need better energy storage medium. Period.
Buy the biggest battery I can find on eBay....
Use the fsck out of my phone all day and have plenty of battery left.
Problem solved.
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We need better energy storage medium. Period.
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I don't think the use of WiFi could be overstated.
On my Skyrocket, leaving Wifi on (indoors), it'll sip about 1% every hour. I go out and have 4G LTE on, it drinks up about 3% every hour.
Minimizing widgets also helps. I saw noticeably better battery after removing my facebook and Latitude widgets.
The screen also sucks up the most battery. Turn it off on every occasion. Just turning it off instead of letting it shut off by itself has made a difference for me.
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For me, the problem isn't the usage, isn't what's running, or what's loaded (but it does help/hurt). The problem is that battery technology has NOT kept up with consumer needs, or IT development.
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Battery technology has kept up with usage. However, battery size in relation to the power draw, has not.
Compare the size of the back cover on your phone, with the size of the battery. Why is the battery this tiny little 2" square, when the phone is 5" tall and 2.5" wide? Why aren't batteries the same height/width as the phone? Why isn't the battery the same size as the back cover? Why aren't phone manufacturers optimising the size of the battery (meaning, making it as big as possible)?
It would be so nice if phone manufacturers would stop with this stupid "race to the thinnest" crap, and started:
- releasing phones that are actually comfortable to hold like a phone
- releasing phones with batteries larger than a pack of matches
your battery dies faster when it's cold outside.
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Actually, keeping a battery cool makes it last longer, not drain faster.