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4G not implimented yet!!?? plus more

ok i havent seen a post for this so here we go..
if you use adw launcher and custom make an icon attached to the hidden menu apk you can access the test and servicing menus like other phones BUT... if you go into test settings for phone (play around its in there) there is a menu the shows hspda (3g, hspda+ being 4g) and many other functions that are advertised on the phone that are all listed as NOT IMPLIMENTED YET!!
so as far as i can tell 4g is NOT active on tmobile at all yet. not until the software is upgraded (gingerbread i am assuming). so it would make sense why the signal on the phone is screwed up and dropping (confused phone maybe?) and why im still getting 3g speeds (slightly faster maybe from better signal reception due to upgraded hardware from my previous Vibrant).
go take a look for yourself and let me know what you think. im sure you can use desktop visualizer to get to the menu to. DONT MESS WITH ANYTHING THOUGH. i had to reset my phone and not with a hard reset, but a recovery i found on a nvflash website. almost bricked it. so just look but don't touch anything important unless you know what your doing.
im looking forward to hearing what everything thinks of this and the giant list of other features also saying this in the same menu. because i feel mislead just a little bit.....

I think it's just that the functions in the hidden menu aren't implemented yet.

Hmmm, interesting find! Maybe this explains the problems I'm having maintaining a stable 2g only connection as well

Dolphinwigs said:
ok i havent seen a post for this so here we go..
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There's a reason for that...
so as far as i can tell 4g is NOT active on tmobile at all yet. not until the software is upgraded (gingerbread i am assuming)
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I've got a hot 4g connection where I am (west Texas), you don't get 4.9-5.6mb (Speedtest) download on 3g. Did you check the T-Mobile coverage map to see if you have it in your area yet?
Edit: you also may need a new sim card. Depending on the age of the card, you might not be able to get a stable lock on to 4g (age as in what generation it was produced.. not how long you've had it)

thats possible, but im getting 3g speeds still as far as i can tell and i don't see why it wouldnt be included in the "hidden menu" if it is working since we aren't "really" supposed to know about the hidden menu. anyways just something i noticed.
menu is Hidden Menu->modem settings is where the menu is at.
and i got a new sim card (tired 2 new ones both the same) and yes i am in salt lake city and it is a 4g area for tmobile. but seems like everyone (mostly) is getting signal drops all over the place. my 2g isn't working as consistantly as it did before on my vibrant either. im sure gingerbread will fix all of this though.

I'm getting 4-8mps down in Metro Atlanta. I say 4G speed is on.

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Hmmm, interesting find! Maybe this explains the problems I'm having maintaining a stable 2g only connection as well
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I'm having the same problem, and I've even got a 2G booster in my house. My 2G connection drops all the time on my G2X but not my Vibrant. When I look at the signal strength when it's up it's not much different than the Vibrant, -104dBm on the G2X vs -100 dBm on the Vibrant

Im at a consistent 6-9mb dl at my house with a 1mb+ ul. Im calling it 4g and have you tried your conn outside of your city to see if its just congestion on the network?

I'm also getting 4-8mbps speeds in Atlanta, 4g is definitely working.

I'm in vegas, every hour, I get only 10 or 20mn of 4g at 6Mb download speed, the rest of the time I'm on 2g. At night time,i get 4g most of the time. So I guess in the day time, they kick me back to 2g to save their bandwitch, I'm returning my phone to let them know this is not acceptable
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My phone SAYS 4G all the time in Charlotte NC but I have only been getting 1mb DL and about 1.5 upload. The weird thing is that browsing the web is lightening fast compared to the vibrant. I would say it loads pages twice as fast.

jrharvey said:
My phone SAYS 4G all the time in Charlotte NC but I have only been getting 1mb DL and about 1.5 upload. The weird thing is that browsing the web is lightening fast compared to the vibrant. I would say it loads pages twice as fast.
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Not sure but this may have as much to do with the processor and RAM speed as the connection speed.

I get crap speeds compared to the Nexus S, and that phone doesn't support full hspa+

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I get crap speeds compared to the Nexus S, and that phone doesn't support full hspa+
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I am not complaining about my speeds which are plenty good IMO, averaging around 3-3.5 mbps. However, I have been surprised that they are no better than my Nexus One was that also didn't support HSPA+.

A few things, before we get too heavy handed on the FUD:
The phone is technically '4G' compatible, and it supports it out of the box.
Most of T-Mo's towers have been upgraded to support their 4G (HSPA+)
Regular HSPA caps out at about 3.5Mbps down. I've gotten as much as 7Mbps down on my G2x
Personally, I haven't had many issues with signal, but I live in Houston, so that may have something to do with it.

4g is on in Huntington Beach, and irvine.
I did notice its not a huge difference speed wise though. I had the moto cliq 3g and i would get 1mbs ish to 5mbs DL, and with the G2x im averaging about 3mbs to 7mbs. not a huge difference but the big change is Latency. I used to rock 700ms to 1000ms on 3g with my cliq, im getting around 55ms to 150ms on my G2x.
Latency is key for me though, i would prefer lower latency than higher download speeds. Due to the fact I need to vpn and voip with company network.
I found that t mobiles 3g network is still very capable in speed. the main issue i had was my cliq was underpowered to handle the t mobiles network. when i would tether my rooted nook color it would perform like a champ.

jimbo831 said:
I am not complaining about my speeds which are plenty good IMO, averaging around 3-3.5 mbps. However, I have been surprised that they are no better than my Nexus One was that also didn't support HSPA+.
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Where do you live? Is it possible T-Mo may not support HSPA+ in your area?
It's also important to note that even if the towers you're connected to support HSPA+, that's only one part of the process. They also have to upgrade the data connection to the tower itself (backhaul) to ensure it can handle the speeds. If you're connected to an HSPA+ tower that doesn't have the upgraded backhaul, that could explain slow speeds.

No.
HSPA+ ("4G") is on and working. You're just not in an HSPA+ area it seems.
We're all getting faster than HSPA speeds, so we are certainly on HSPA+. Speedtests are the best way for you to verify if you are on EDGE (2G), HSPA (3G), or HSPA+ (4G).

I would like a 3g icon just top know what type of tower I'm on, I think the baseband is wack, I bet when gingerbread comes out we will get the separate icons... Also my vibrant would get steady 5-6mb down 2mb up, but with this phone its anything but steady, I can get up to 8mb down but its crazy random, regular use is sometimes slow initializing, and someones websites timeout.... I think a baseband upgrade will fix all this stuff tho, or software upgrades.
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pychobj2001 said:
I would like a 3g icon just top know what type of tower I'm on, I think the baseband is wack, I bet when gingerbread comes out we will get the separate icons... Also my vibrant would get steady 5-6mb down 2mb up, but with this phone its anything but steady, I can get up to 8mb down but its crazy random, regular use is sometimes slow initializing, and someones websites timeout.... I think a baseband upgrade will fix all this stuff tho, or software upgrades.
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That's the thing though. The way T-Mo has their network setup, if you can get 3G from a tower, you should be able to get 4G. Period. You may not get 4G speeds, but you're technically connected to an HSPA+ tower, and thus the 4G icon. It'd be weird to connect a tower that supports HSPA at this point, but not HSPA+ (though I'm sure there are some out there)

Has anyone EVER seen "3g" displayed on their status bar on this phone?

I have only ever seen it say 2g or 4g. I don't have the best coverage so I didn't think much of it, but a friend I'm Chicago is reporting the same issue.
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Same here. TMobile has to figure this out. My brother's G2 goes from 3G to H.
Mine goes from 2G to 4G.
Make it a standard as to what shows up on the screen. My understanding it even when it says 4G, you may be in 3G. Only way to know is go into network settings or run a speed test.
Kind of stupid in my opinion.

Yeah, it's not a big deal really, just annoying.
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the exact reason given to me by tmobile is that our phones only register gsm(2g) and wdcma(3G and 4G both fall under this on tmobile) so without really checking at anytime 4g could be 3g its fast either way but annoying none the less

Same here...

So the phone just doesn't ever display 3g? When I'm on the 3g network it will show 4g? Sounds a little bit like false advertising to me. I really don't care too much, but if I am getting less than 1mb down and the phone claims to be on 4g it's kinda bs.
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From what I understand, if you go to Settings > About Phone > Status > Mobile Network Type.
If it says UMTS, then your on 3G
If it says HSDPA or HSPA or HSPA+ then your on 4G.
I could be wrong, when Im out and about driving, I can run a speed test and hit 10-12 Mbps and the settings will still read as UMTS even though that appears to be 4G speeds.

jsauce75 said:
So the phone just doesn't ever display 3g? When I'm on the 3g network it will show 4g? Sounds a little bit like false advertising to me. I really don't care too much, but if I am getting less than 1mb down and the phone claims to be on 4g it's kinda bs.
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Thats exactly what im going through now. My phone right now for example shows "4G" in the status bar, but Settings/About Phone shows "UMTS" doing a speed test right now, my speeds are Download-0.53 Mbps Upload 0.41
I agree this is BS.
Tried calling TMobile to explain how the coverage map for my area says 100% complete 4G coverage but my speeds are slow as ****. Tried complaining so I can get out my contract and go to Sprint but they say as long as voice calling works slow data speeds dont permit to break contract.
But TMobile and there whole 4G compain definetly is false advertising.

ive gotten 3 or 4 different answers from various reps at tmobile but there all terrible i get fast enough service all around me even edge runs well enough but i wish they would show 3g when its 3g they act like they have amazing 4g coverage but all the new 4g phones do this at least i know the sidekick 4g does and correct me if im wrong but the g2 does as well its just a marketing scam

Hey i work for t-mobile and have the G2x. I hosted an event for the launch of the phone and had my LG rep there. She explained that LG actually forgot to put the 3G indicator on the phone. LG is supposed to be putting out a software update for that as well as the terrible battery life on their website very soon. Lets keep our fingers crossed

Ummmmm oops....
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Helluva thing to forget. If it's true.

I hope they do!!!
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Personally, I think they need to do with the G2x like they did with the ipad... stop all manufacturing of the item, until all ends and malfunctions are corrected.
including software & hardware. They're just sending stuff out, and in the end sticking it to the consumer by giving them less than quality standard work for the same amount of money they would expect to receive for something put together and functioning "correctly"
(p.s. before i get the "apple made the ipad" bull, LG created the screens, hence the same "bleeding" "light leaks" in the new ipad 2, also Samsung took over when they halted the production of LG screens)

eastonroc said:
Hey i work for t-mobile and have the G2x. I hosted an event for the launch of the phone and had my LG rep there. She explained that LG actually forgot to put the 3G indicator on the phone. LG is supposed to be putting out a software update for that as well as the terrible battery life on their website very soon. Lets keep our fingers crossed
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Well this is a lie they didnt forget anything LOL.
Look at the G2 for example which is made by HTC. It will show 2G/E or H. You will never see 3G symbol on the G2. Unless you install one of those custom roms where then the dev make the phone switch between H and 4G / 3G depending on data traffic.
Well I had bad 4G speeds in my part of town for years I finally gave up on tmobile today. Sold my G2x on craigslist and picked up a Nexus S 4G with Sprint.
I now get atleast 10 Mbps on avarage now. Proof is in the signature.

I think that might be going a little too far, but I haven't had too many major issues thus far. Just little annoying things that should be fixed with updates.
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I have an Evo and on the stock Sense ROM, the phone will display 3G even on 1x (the CDMA equivalent of EDGE). If I hop to CyanogenMod or any Sense ROM ported from another HTC phone, it'll show 1x when I roam/send a text. Also Sense ROMs have like 6 signal bars.
It's all about what the carrier wants. Hell, they could make it say 4G all the time if they want. It's weird though that they show 2G and not 3G.

hypersonicx said:
Well this is a lie they didnt forget anything LOL.
Look at the G2 for example which is made by HTC. It will show 2G/E or H. You will never see 3G symbol on the G2. Unless you install one of those custom roms where then the dev make the phone switch between H and 4G / 3G depending on data traffic.
Well I had bad 4G speeds in my part of town for years I finally gave up on tmobile today. Sold my G2x on craigslist and picked up a Nexus S 4G with Sprint.
I now get atleast 10 Mbps on avarage now. Proof is in the signature.
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You also won't get any indication that you're on hspa+, either. Just sayin', it goes both ways. You're losing something no matter what.
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I have to put my two cents in on speeds.
I started (my smarty phone odyssey) on Metropcs in Feb....most speed test ever showed was like 1.6mbps...once. Mostly at 1.4-1.5. I was very unhappy with that. Between these speeds, battery issues, no support (from Samsung), I had enuff and went to Sprint. I saw around1.0 Mbps in the beginning. When I complained, they made an adjustment on their end amd it got worse! My average was .65 up and down. Then I went back to Metro. Seems they are suddenly having speed issues. Couldn't get more than about .80, with the same other issues as before. So I've purchased the G2x.
Got two yesterday!!
Both have bleed. Doesn't bother me as it is though. Just noticeable when screen is black. It IS bs, but not a dealbreaker, if it doesn't get worse.
I see people talking about speeds of 8 and 9Mbps and I say I'd be happy with a third of that.
Personally I don't think speedtest is accurate. But I never see that discussed.
T Mobile is supposed to activate these tomorrow. I'll post my speeds. If I get anything above 4.0, I'll be in heaven.
I have looked at youtube videos via wifi and am in awe of this device. Really smooth playback. Wow. Better than the Indulge AND the Evo IMO.
My new phone is supposed to activate tommorow. Can't wait
Oh and I'm in the Dallas market. I'm on top of DFW airport. Dallas is Metros home market so system is overall good here, but I'm in a bit of a dip so reception can be an issue in my home.

ickster said:
I have to put my two cents in on speeds.
I started (my smarty phone odyssey) on Metropcs in Feb....most speed test ever showed was like 1.6mbps...once. Mostly at 1.4-1.5. I was very unhappy with that. Between these speeds, battery issues, no support (from Samsung), I had enuff and went to Sprint. I saw around1.0 Mbps in the beginning. When I complained, they made an adjustment on their end amd it got worse! My average was .65 up and down. Then I went back to Metro. Seems they are suddenly having speed issues. Couldn't get more than about .80, with the same other issues as before. So I've purchased the G2x.
Got two yesterday!!
Both have bleed. Doesn't bother me as it is though. Just noticeable when screen is black. It IS bs, but not a dealbreaker, if it doesn't get worse.
I see people talking about speeds of 8 and 9Mbps and I say I'd be happy with a third of that.
Personally I don't think speedtest is accurate. But I never see that discussed.
T Mobile is supposed to activate these tomorrow. I'll post my speeds. If I get anything above 4.0, I'll be in heaven.
I have looked at youtube videos via wifi and am in awe of this device. Really smooth playback. Wow. Better than the Indulge AND the Evo IMO.
My new phone is supposed to activate tommorow. Can't wait
Oh and I'm in the Dallas market. I'm on top of DFW airport. Dallas is Metros home market so system is overall good here, but I'm in a bit of a dip so reception can be an issue in my home.
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Sprint's been having nationwide issues for like the last 5 months. On 4G, I used to get 15 Mbps, now I get 1 Mbps. On 3G, I get 300 kbps tops. Their network is overcrowded, according to higherups I spoke to. They said it'll be fixed end of June. Not good enough.

What's the most the G2X can download mbps???

Just curious of the mbps max our phone can handle
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14.4 megs downstream

Thanks but what's this I hear about 42mbps?
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TMobile has upgraded a few cities (and plans to upgrade more) to theoretical speeds of up to 42mbps. Since the radio in the g2x goes up to 14.4 this will have no impact on our phones. That said I've yet to see the phone that even hits 14mbps, so I don't really think having a radio capable of 42mbps would even really matter. I mean I've still yet to see the 14.4 radio that has actually pulled down a real world speed of 14.4mbps. I think all that stuff sounds great on paper but in real life odds are you won't see that speed.

off topic:
On wifi at home I get 20+ mbps download

I posted the following at the thread on 3g in the status....more appropiate here,so I duplicate it.
I have to put my two cents in on speeds.
I started (my smarty phone odyssey) on Metropcs in Feb....most speed test ever showed was like 1.6mbps...once. Mostly at 1.4-1.5. I was very unhappy with that. Between these speeds, battery issues, no support (from Samsung), I had enuff and went to Sprint. I saw around1.0 Mbps in the beginning. When I complained, they made an adjustment on their end amd it got worse! My average was .65 up and down. Then I went back to Metro. Seems they are suddenly having speed issues. Couldn't get more than about .80, with the same other issues as before. So I've purchased the G2x.
Got two yesterday!!
Both have bleed. Doesn't bother me as it is though. Just noticeable when screen is black. It IS bs, but not a dealbreaker, if it doesn't get worse.
I see people talking about speeds of 8 and 9Mbps and I say I'd be happy with a third of that.
Personally I don't think speedtest is accurate. But I never see that discussed.
T Mobile is supposed to activate these tomorrow. I'll post my speeds. If I get anything above 4.0, I'll be in heaven.
I have looked at youtube videos via wifi and am in awe of this device. Really smooth playback. Wow. Better than the Indulge AND the Evo IMO.
My new phone is supposed to activate tommorow. Can't wait
Oh and I'm in the Dallas market. I'm on top of DFW airport. Dallas is Metros home market so system is overall good here, but I'm in a bit of a dip so reception can be an issue in my home.

omarsalmin said:
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On wifi at home I get 20+ mbps download
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I get similar numbers on wifi
highest I've ever actually speed-tested is ~21 Mbps down, ~5Mbps on wifi and ~9Mbps down, ~2Mbps up on H. I don't belive H+ is available in my area at this time (Indianapolis, IN).

How well is the LTE working?

I am a launch day EVO 4G user and a Sprint subscriber since 1999. With the new EVO 3D 4G coming out, I am at a crossroads. I am miffed not being in a Sprint 4G area while my friends with their Tbolts are rocking it here. Even my sister with her Tmobile MyTouch 4g is getting "4G" here. But, that EVO 3D is beckoning for my technolust.
Those of you with Tbolts and in an official LTE area, how well does the network work when you are moving? How well does the network handle handoffs? Is LTE useable when in a moving car?
Thanks for any input. I am seeking as much input as possible to make a consumer decision. This is not a trolling attempt and I hope no trolls attempt. I just need info.

All of that works amazing for me here in Phoenix. Almost all of the valley is covered in 4g and I get it pretty much anywhere. Works great while moving, handoffs seem to work fine.

In Columbus, OH and it is a LTE market - these days it seems they have worked out most of the kinks. Battery life is horrendous using the 4G radio - if you get the phone and have access to a WiFi AP for most of the day, use that over 4G. I mainly stay in Columbus and the 4G coverage area is rather large, I've not had problems with moving quickly and downloading anything, although I'd wonder what would happen if you wanted to use it as a carpool mobile hotspot, how stable it is in that situation I'm not sure. All and all I'm happy with the phone - and it seems Verizon is over their growing pains in the network.

4G works well when moving. I am able to make Skype Video calls while driving, and the video is clear, but not too smooth (Skype Mobile might be limiting the frame rate to 15fps). There are some data handoff issues when moving from a 4G area to a 3G area, resulting in music streams getting cut off. Most apps, when their data stream is cut off, do not intelligently reconnect, and make you have to restart the stream manually.
Initializing 4G is also not speedy. Driving out of a no-signal zone means waiting a good minute or two, as the phone goes from "no service" to "1x" to "4g". I've noticed that if you get impatient (or are just not paying attention) and invoke a data stream on "1x", the phone will not switch to "4g" until the data stream ends. This delay depends on the phone's hardware, obviously.
Also, your bandwidth varies sharply with location. The difference between New York City (2-4Mbps), Dallas (12-15Mbps), and San Francisco (3-6Mbps) is startling.
Hope this helps you.

Why go for the evo in the first place? 3d gimmick?
The tbolt while being single core runs android very well.
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Nooter said:
bandwidth varies sharply with location. The difference between New York City (2-4Mbps), Dallas (12-15Mbps), and San Francisco (3-6Mbps) is startling.
Hope this helps you.
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I'm not sure where are you pulling your data from for NYC, but look at my signature. Averaging at 25mbps during he peak hours.

Handoffs are the greatest, but overall a very pleasurable experience. I get about 8-12 down and a pretty consistent 2 up in charlotte. If you are in a good lte area, moving is not that bad. I use it to stream tv from my vulkano while moving and never really have a problem. Overall I'm happy. The only thing that I have a real issue with is GPS. Which I just got off the phone with verizon about.

Hmmm, lots of you are getting better speeds than I am seeing.
I get good coverage here in the NW Chicago burbs, but I'm only seeing 5-6 mbps down and 2-3 up. It's fast enough for my uses, but now I'm wondering why I'm not getting faster speeds....

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Hmmm, lots of you are getting better speeds than I am seeing.
I get good coverage here in the NW Chicago burbs, but I'm only seeing 5-6 mbps down and 2-3 up. It's fast enough for my uses, but now I'm wondering why I'm not getting faster speeds....
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I'm on the Northside of Chicago by Wrigley and I usually average around 10-15 mbps all day long.. Maybe because as you said you're in the northwest burbs. When I take the Metra north to Wisconsin I notice the 4G speed diminish until it's all 3G
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mrslax said:
Why go for the evo in the first place? 3d gimmick?
The tbolt while being single core runs android very well.
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Dual core snapdragon, rumour has it capable of significant overclocking or better battery life. Better display, higher resolution.And yes, 3D. Hands on reviews indicate cool factor. I am geek.
I would not come over
to "Rule the air" for the Tbolt. I am interested in real 4G, not the faux one Sprint has me paying for that I can't even get. So far, judging from the positive responses, I will
hold off buying the EVO 3D until the V gets its version. Then I will switch networks.
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North of Boston I have 4G and its working great. The comparison between LTE and 3G is incredible.
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liverstealerJobs said:
Dual core snapdragon, rumour has it capable of significant overclocking or better battery life. Better display, higher resolution.And yes, 3D. Hands on reviews indicate cool factor. I am geek.
I would not come over
to "Rule the air" for the Tbolt. I am interested in real 4G, not the faux one Sprint has me paying for that I can't even get. So far, judging from the positive responses, I will
hold off buying the EVO 3D until the V gets its version. Then I will switch networks.
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Good move. The 4G with Verizon is no joke. Even on the outskirts of Jacksonvilles 4G area I get 10mbs down at least.
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Building penetration with Verizon LTE! I can stream YouTube HD in the crapper at work which is smack center of the building. When I canceled Sprint the other day they wanted me to stand out on the streets to get 4G coverage. Been a Sprint customer for over a decade but no more.
Verizon may drop the unlimited phone data so you may want to grandfather in sooner than later.
3D is a gimmick. I would give priority to LTE, SAMOLED+, dual core, etc. over that.

I live in Charlotte NC & I'll never go back to 3G. The difference is astounding

Ubermicro13 said:
North of Boston I have 4G and its working great. The comparison between LTE and 3G is incredible.
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There is no comparison

///Ficarra said:
Hmmm, lots of you are getting better speeds than I am seeing.
I get good coverage here in the NW Chicago burbs, but I'm only seeing 5-6 mbps down and 2-3 up. It's fast enough for my uses, but now I'm wondering why I'm not getting faster speeds....
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You aren't by any chance running one of the GB leaks are you?
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cant wait to get 4g!

milan03 said:
I'm not sure where are you pulling your data from for NYC, but look at my signature. Averaging at 25mbps during he peak hours.
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That's insane. I'll test again when I'm in NYC next.

I haven't had any handoff issues going from 4G to 4G. In fact, my best speed tests have been while on the freeway at top speed

Im in Staten Island NY and it works great in Brooklyn Staten Island And Manhattan from what i see so far

Anyone else noticing HTCs losing 3G/4G speeds?

I sell vzw for a franchise/premium retailer and I have noticed on my phone first and then on everyone I know/see that has htc's I've noticed that even down to the incredible, incredible 2, and of course the thunderbolt. I honestly haven't checked the rezound but plan to if someone buys one or I have time to test it.
Basically 4G only gets under 4 mbps and 3G phones only get 3 mbps and under. Sometimes averaging around 1 mbps.
According to HTC its a network issue. I said,"how could it be a network issue if the other 4G phones like the Motorola's more specificly like the bionic I have next to my thunderbolt is running 14-18 mbps!"
Verizon says its not a network issue and I was right it is pretty obvious. They said it's a phone issue and it's the first they've heard of it.
I personally believe it has something to do with the back cover antenna. And I also can't help noticing how cheap they are and how they seem to be trying to get rid of more lately. Yes it can very well be because its almost a year that its been out and I'm sure there's somewhere I'm not looking where it shows its planned life time.
I just want to make sure there isn't a software issue going on here or if its a hardware/"dare I say it, defect" with these phones.
Now I will say I have this verified by people I know that travel through and/to Pittsburgh for school and work. It does appear that with more towers downtown u do get a lot of signal bombarding ur phone and they pull about 8mbps. Bionic was going 14-18 mbps all over my area and would imagine it stays strong in the city too.
I'm running cm7 and I got friends running all kinds of roms for there thunderbolts all same results and unrooted users/store phone sent straight from htc/random traffic in the store all get the same bad results. Hope this helps and comments are a must please.
-theZEEKone
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Could be a radio issue I am still on MR2 ota this was done side by side with a Rezound at VZW store and both got similar speeds. And this is one of the slower speeds I have ever got as well.
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Here's my speed test....looks fine to me..
Well i can't post pics yet but my test is normal for me, 10 down 2 up
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Mine is over 4mb.
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I had my TB since March of this year, and I didn't have 4G to pick up until they expanded here. While my phone would originally pick up 4G, it stopped picking it up unless the signal was very strong, like in a Verizon store where they have the repeaters. My wife's TB would pick up 4G if it was anywhere around, and would smoke my phone for data speeds every time. I had changed the SIM card, which had no noticeable effect, and finally sent it back under warranty and got a replacement. Of course, I had to unroot and restore to stock, but my replacement is as good as it should have been all along.
To the OP, It may be a situation where you have some HTC phones that have poor signal issues like mine had. My original TB could have had the issue all along, but I was not aware because of how well the phone handled everything else, and the fact that it DID pick up 4G, just not very well.
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Oh, to add to this, my old TB would only get data speeds averaging 4-5 MB/s down with 4G, and my wife's would get 17-26 MB/s side by side. My replacement gets 15-17 MB/s down and 8-10 MB/s up with the 906 radio. Wife's radio is 508/510 combo, I believe.

Grnlantern79 said:
Could be a radio issue I am still on MR2 ota this was done side by side with a Rezound at VZW store and both got similar speeds. And this is one of the slower speeds I have ever got as well.
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Uhh youre on wifi there buddy. I think he was talking about the 4G/3G data speeds.

bigd5783 said:
Uhh youre on wifi there buddy. I think he was talking about the 4G/3G data speeds.
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Uhh he used 4G for the test as stated by the network and IP's in the picture. He just took the picture while using WiFi.

Two things I've noticed on my phone.....one is all gingerbread roms with any radio i have tried slow my speed way down except the latest shiftao5p, its decent with it. With gingerbread roms i only get about 3-5 mbps but with any froyo rom including the very first build i get at least 15mbps.
Secondly, i bought a cheap extended battery off eBay and the cheap battery cover has a cheap antenna in it. It wouldn't pick up 4g most of the time. I put a small piece of aluminum foil on the antenna prongs and put the cover back on and that helped, it would at least pick up 4g after that. With the seidio battey and cover it picks up great. So watch hose cheap extended battery covers.

The speedtest app everyone's been using seems to have inadequate test servers. I routinely get ~15Mb/s from them. Using http://speakeasy.net/speedtest, I frequently see TWICE the speed. Let me upload some screenshots from my phone. Not sure if there's "proof" that it's from my phone though, but rest assured, it is. My home 'net speed is 6Mb/s so it ain't from that connection !!

Here we go...

hallstevenson said:
The speedtest app everyone's been using seems to have inadequate test servers. I routinely get ~15Mb/s from them. Using http://speakeasy.net/speedtest, I frequently see TWICE the speed. Let me upload some screenshots from my phone. Not sure if there's "proof" that it's from my phone though, but rest assured, it is. My home 'net speed is 6Mb/s so it ain't from that connection !!
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Holy crap! You are correct man! I didn't realize Verizon's network was so good here!
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Try different 'locations' from the Speakeasy site too.
FWIW, the 33Mb/s is the highest I've ever seen myself.

Yes, in fact just last week I got a Certified Like New replacement for my TBolt for this very problem. It was resolved immediately with the new device.
I had tried replacing sim card, replacing back door, replacing battery, flashing various roms and radios, and a full restore to stock with s-on; nothing worked for the defective device.
My 4g speed degraded gradually over a period of a few weeks and became dramatically worse and practically unusable in a span of a few days at the end of it.
When I got my CLN, I had both the replacement and my original unit side by side in the same spot in my house and ran speedtest on the same server using 4g, same sim card, same rom (Stock GB MR), same radio, no SD card, no installed apps.
The difference was black and white, the original was total **** (several times failing to even complete the test due to "network issues") and the replacement was hitting ~25Mbps down.
Long story short, the TB 4g hardware can spontaneously start to fail. It's for that reason I'm contemplating getting insurance once my mfg warranty wears out. I love the character of this phone but I think some of the engineering behind it might be third rate.
More details in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348220

mthe0ry said:
Long story short, the TB 4g hardware can spontaneously start to fail. It's for that reason I'm contemplating getting insurance once my mfg warranty wears out. I love the character of this phone but I think some of the engineering behind it might be third rate.
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Spontaneously start to fail... third rate engineering... Hope I don't run into that
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