I just wanted to know if anybody has tried using a bluetooth keyboard and mouse setup. I am interested cause i think this phone would be amazing to use as a 'pc' just like the evo especially since we can hdmi mirror natively and i have verified that using droid overclock to change lcd density works.
I am absolutely DYING to know if this works. My entire life is on my phone and it would be so wonderful to connect a keyboard and mouse and put the hdmi out to my tv. cmon, this has to work. how can the evo do this and i can find nothing, absolutely nothing anywhere on doing this with the g2x?
find it very hard to believe that with all the people on this forum we cant get an answer for this very simple question. Someone please assist.
i have a bt mouse at home. i'll check this evening..but somehow i doubt it... the keyboard SHOULD work tho.. but I don't have one.
I think it's likely that you will need an additional driver to use a bluetooth mouse and keyboard. Search in the market for "bluetooth keyboard driver."
I know Teksoft has an HID driver for Android that is supposed to allow keyboard/mouse input. Its called BlueInput....here...
http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=blueinputandroid
I don't know if/how well it works on our device. I only know it exists. If someone wants to try it and report back I would be interested in knowing too. This could save me from hauling my laptop to work every night.
Hope this helps...
I was in bestbuy and tried the motorola BT keyboard that they market for their android tablets. I kept getting an error on my device while pairing. said, "problem with pairing. please make sure the password on device is ******"
the *'s are always random numbers. I would really like to get this to work. gahhhh
Passwords are usually 0000 or 1234 for most devices, but if not you're screwed and need documentation. I'm going to be ordering a bt keyboard/mouse for my atrix cuz I hacked the webtop on it so I don't need the dock, hopefully input devices work without....
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Oh wait, I realized what you're talking about, bt 2.0 uses different password methods.... Back from spacing out, you should be able to click yes that they do match and likely out will attempt to connect.
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welllll. there is no option to say yest they match. the password changes everytime i try to pair. So yeah, still no definitive answer on whether or not the G2X supports bluetooth hid. how is this so FFFKKKKNNNN hard to find?!
Bump. any help please?
Is this something i need cm7 for? do i get mouse pointer like the evo had in cm6? im so confused please help
There definitely have to be more of us that want to see this become an easy task. im sure many would benefit from this. I know i would love to be able to take all my work notes on my phone without using my thumbs for pages and pages of notes. any ideas folks?
I think the stock rom doesn't support it. I couldn't get my wiimote to pair until CM.
Probably the same deal. I'm sure CM has support for those profiles.
Thanks so much for the input. I've been trying to get the wiimote to work too? Any feedback? Using nexus aosp by faux.
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Hi All,
I am planning on making an app that unlocks the HDMI capabilities of the Evo. However with limited documentation and secretive programmer's manual for the HDMI chip on the Evo, this is almost impossible.
I tired searching for the register reference or programmer's giude for the SiI9024A HDMI chip but found nothing on the web (they only released it to HTC and other manufacturers). If anybody has these documents and would like to see the Evo with full HDMI, please private message/email me these docs or a link to them.
I will use this thread to update on project's progress, link demos and what not.
This is something I've been wanting to see for a while. I don't have any documentation to offer, but once you get something going, let me know if you need any help testing.
Or you could just wait for cm7; talk of the town is that they may have that feature.
Im in
http://www.datasheetdir.com/SII9024A+Video
http://ns.siliconimage.com/docs/SiI-DB-1076-C01_Brief-9022A-24A.pdf
Hope this helps!
http://us.generation-nt.com/silicon-image-low-power-hdmi-transmitter-selected-via-press-1955621.html
This has some email links, maybe some information can be conveniently leaked.
thanks
rrr1986 said:
http://www.datasheetdir.com/SII9024A+Video
http://ns.siliconimage.com/docs/SiI-DB-1076-C01_Brief-9022A-24A.pdf
Hope this helps!
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Thanks rrr1986, but these docs are not what I need to develop for the chip. What I need may require me to sign an NDA with SI, which I am willing to do if there are no fees.
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/08/30/hdmi-out-app-for-droid-x-unlocks-magic/
I heard the guy that developed this app has some mad skill!
rrr1986 said:
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/08/30/hdmi-out-app-for-droid-x-unlocks-magic/
I heard the guy that developed this app has some mad skill!
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Thats very much like what i want to create.
that app for the droid x is a step forward, but by no means ideal lol. The screen on the phone stays in the app and doesn't reflect what the phone and hdmi output is doing?
Sounds like a LOT of hit or miss and frustration for those users lol. Picking the right app/shortcut sounds bad enough let alone typing something
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that app for the droid x is a step forward, but by no means ideal lol. The screen on the phone stays in the app and doesn't reflect what the phone and hdmi output is doing?
Sounds like a LOT of hit or miss and frustration for those users lol. Picking the right app/shortcut sounds bad enough let alone typing something
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This is because the developer chose to create an app instead of a service.
Here's the action I'm looking for out of an HDMI out utility:
http://androidspin.com/2011/01/06/c...ptima-2x-with-tegra2-chipset-and-gingerbread/
Enjoy!
Hoping for this in CM7, but I'm not holding my breath. Have a pico projector that works with HDMI out in sense roms, but the audio comes out of the speakerphone..! Grr.. And only works in gallery movie player, and maybe youtube. That's it.
:-/
let the people of other forums know about this thread. androidcentral and many other sites. maybe someone throw a key information about the hdmi of the evo
This would be great if you could get full mirroring. Do any of the new htc phones coming out have the same hdmi chip? Maybe you could steal the mirroring drivers from it haha
I don't know if this helps as I have written about it before in another thread but didn't get much results. In the RUU_101107T105508(which boots and will function...but without bootloader screen..you have to remember which key functions make it go into what you are looking for) and the next one RUU_Speedy_Sprint_WWE_1-2.17.651.1_Radio_1.07.00.1129_NV_SPCS_1.52_1103_release_160079_signed and RUU_Supersonic_1.17.651.1(it is the eng-build that you can get when you use the 3 step Simple Root method.....it has HTC utilities that allows you to either select HDMI mirroring or presentation mode. However, the toggle will only let you select presentation mode. If someone knows how to change the default from "false" or to "allow" I am pretty sure it would allow HDMI output. It is a matter of going through all of the files to find the toggle switch to allow it to work. It states it is only for Supersonic and it shows pictures from the Vancouver Google Convference.....so....all of you in the know.....maybe this will help....It has a whole bunch of HTC utilities that only came with the first EVO given out at the Google conference. You can check all types of things.....WiMax included....the same settings that CM is using to make WiMax work now....I just don't think it has/was a top priority and might be an easy fix.....
any advance in the project??
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any advance in the project??
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difficult to reverse engineer, but putting time into it. Dont have anything to show yet or update except that its work-in-progress. Tried to contact SI for docs but they refused to give it to me
noobie question: Who is SI??
raviosopr said:
noobie question: Who is SI??
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uhhh.
Super Idiots, cause they didnt cough up the doc's.
heheeh ok. Here in this forum I saw a bounty about the hdmi project. look for it and verify if its still active
Ok.
I followed the discussion over wiimotes and how the bluetooth stack used by Samsung prevents the use of bluetooth keyboards w/the Epic 4g, but I can't, in all my googling, find an answer to this question: is the icontrolpad compatible with the Epic 4g?
It looks like Bluez IME provides options that may get around Samsung's bluetooth stack or that the icontrolpad connects in a way that functions differently that bluetooth keyboards, but I'm honestly clueless. The icontrolpad website, by the way, makes it sound like any phone ever made is compatible. Anyone have an answer?
Sorry for the double post/self-bump.
I bought one anyway, so i guess i'll report back if it makes any difference to anyone. Either way, it's a good investment for my pc, transformer, and any phone i get after i'm done with the epic. Thanks for your time.
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Well, did it work ok for you. I have been curious to know after seeing you had no responses from anyone.
Hi, I'm looking for a good Bluetooth keyboard, that is the same size as the phone, or slightly smaller. I do not want a big, full sized, foldable one, because it doesn't fit my uses. Thanks in advance.
Samsung Infuse 4G-Zeuz-ICSRevamped
If you find out about one let me know as I could also use one since I can not find a nice controlder that is cheapish to play with it.
I was thinking about ordering GSI Super-Quality Wireless Mini Bluetooth Keyboard . I am just not sure if it would work since there are issuse I know with the wii remotes working.
On the Zuse Rom.
Hmm... why not just get a better keyboard app for your phone.... Try out swiftkeyx and then keep on your hunt after a week of using it if you still feel it necessary. Rather spend 3.99 than 39.99 + shipping.
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most bt keyboards work. the game controllers are usually a problem. depends on the protocol it uses but the information on that is hard to find.
I did order it for $15 and am now waiting for it to come in. I will let you know then if it works.
I went ahead and bought one. (I'd post a link to the one I purchased, but I don't have enough posts here )
I could only get it to pair on my Infuse, it would not connect on any of the roms I tried(Zeus, CM7, and stock UCLB1). Yep, not even the stock rom worked. I did get it to connect on my Le Pan TC970, but it would not type, or respond, to any keypress I made, and eventually my Tablet would just crash, reboot, and bootloop. I hope someone finds a working BT keyboard, I still would really like one. Hope this helps with other peoples purchases.
EDIT: It works with my iPhone 3GS.
EDIT2: I got it to work on miui 2.2.17, so far that's the only rom that I have found that the keyboard works on. Also, it works on my stock le pan, but not when on cm7.
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I use thumb keyboard when turned sideways I looks and works just like Bluetooth keyboard would
There is always room to improve on perfection!!! Perfection only opens the door to defaults!
I got the keyboard and while it would pair it does not seem to work with the phone nomatter what I do.
Deathmvp said:
I got the keyboard and while it would pair it does not seem to work with the phone nomatter what I do.
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Well that sucks bro. Before you return it, did you try it on stock? Froyo.. GB?
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Erik_T said:
Well that sucks bro. Before you return it, did you try it on stock? Froyo.. GB?
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I listed the roms I tried farther down in my post. Miui 2.2.17 is the only one that I managed to get it to work on. I'll try froyo in a bit and let you know.
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I am using the Zuse Rom at the moment on the phone.
I am not going to return it as I will set it up for my ps3 for now.
I'm sorry it took so long, but I cannot test stock froyo. My backup does not work, and I would rather not flash, yet again, with Odin, unless I must. If I could be directed to a cwm flashable stock froyo rom, or if, and when, I need to flash with Odin, I will test it.
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KingKongApeBoy said:
I'm sorry it took so long, but I cannot test stock froyo. My backup does not work, and I would rather not flash, yet again, with Odin, unless I must. If I could be directed to a cwm flashable stock froyo rom, or if, and when, I need to flash with Odin, I will test it.
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Try the Heimdall one click then. Not qkster's though. His if for GB.
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This thread will be the bounty thread for the willing developer to MOD the app for the new Pioneer Appradio 2
To collect the bounty discussed in this thread the Developer must modify the Appradio Android Application or create a new application to allow Full touch control of the Display Mirroring. Currently the Appradio 2 accepts HDMI input via mini-hdmi or MHL.
Donations to the bounty:
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uribees (xda) = $25
franklin270h (xda) = $100
xavenged (xda) = $100
outcastrc (xda) = $100
baldcyclops (xda) = $25
beestee (xda) = $25
shaxs (xda) = $100
defe (xda) = $25
Gelroos (xda) = $150
TLS2000 (xda) = $25
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Software Guy (xda) = $50
Please share the thread and get the word out!
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I recently picked up an Appradio 2 from Pioneer. The premise is good but the excecution is poor IMO.
The app seems overly complicated and quite frankly pisses me off the more i use it.
Now what i would like to know is if the app can be modified to just offer control of the MHL mirror. That would be ideal for me. At points within the app it allows you to control the screen via the touch screen on the appradio 2. Then at certain places it doesn't allow any touch or only touch portions of the screen.
I have very minimal knowledge of programming for android so i cannot tackle it myself. Im also willing to start a bounty for this as well if someone shows some interest.
Here is the apk: Link
Anyone up for the task?
I just got one of these earlier today. I was very excited at the "Android" support. I haven't installed it yet (buying a washer and dryer takes forever!), but I hope to do it tomorrow.
Did you do your install or did you have somebody do it for you?
Also, have you messed with navigation through phone at all? What cables does it need? I know it needs an MHL for my SGS2, but where can I find the cable that plugs into the back of the unit?
Its a simple straight forward install. The cable in the back is a full size HDMI that comes out of the mhl adapter.
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Gotcha. I need to pick one up for my sgs2.
Where did you put your nav antenna and your microphone?
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The best place for you will be wildly different but I put my mic in the factory VW location and the GPS inside the dash
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So I was really excited about getting this, but it sounds like everyone that's gotten it has been disappointed. I'm interested in whether anyone really likes it.
Mine ended up being broken (non-working bluetooth).
Returned it and got a dnx7180 with nav and good ****.
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So I was really excited about getting this, but it sounds like everyone that's gotten it has been disappointed. I'm interested in whether anyone really likes it.
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As was i and to be honest i am sort of disappointed. However, the potential is there for this unit. I believe with the right modes to the app and/or unit it will be GREAT!
The system is similar as the MIMICS system. It mirrors the display of the phone via MHL and uses bluetooth to communicate screen touches. If the app can be modded so that it allows you to navigate to more than just the appradio app then it would be perfect.
Someone that knows what they are doing should be able to mod the app accordingly and unlock the true potential of this device.
I'm sure they will hear the complaints and make Appradio 3 or 4 better. I will definitely give it another try then. The lack of compatible android apps is disappointing.
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The 'appradio2' from pioneer is just starting and is getting more and more android fans every day.
Altho this is a device with great potential, the user experience is indeed a little dissapointing.
Where should I begin?
Well, first the SPH-DA100 officially only supports android 3.2 and not even all phones running it too (a list of compatible devices is @ the Pioneer website)
I successfully connected my Galaxy Nexus i9250 (running ICS 4.0.4 since this weekend) and it works!
The perfect picture for this device should be when you can control your whole phone from the screen of the appradio. For now, only approved apps can be controlled.
I follow MKVFTW when he says that someone who knows what he's doing should rewrite the apk. but for now we can only wait for Pioneer to make another version.
I do not doubt that Pioneer will wait for an appradio 3 or 4 to make things better
The current hardware can handle it.
Or does everyone here buys a new phone when the next android version comes out???
I managed to get a custom background wallpaper on the device, that is a start isn't it?
*link not allowed yet --> search youtube for appradiomodder
Let's keep going where our apps take us !!
Cheers!
I already got rid of mine. It barely worked, such a waste.
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Sorry to hear yours broke;
Mine works pretty good tbh. It rarely crashes and when it does, it only takes 20 secs. and the app restarts itself.
Bluetooth never worked from the second I opened the box. I'm using a compatible phone as well.
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I'm currently looking in to the apk.
Seems like there a lot of things there wich aren't even active for the moment.
So I think a version 1.0.3 is coming soon
According to Pioneer the app manufacurers shoud update their apps to be compatible with the sph-DA100. I don't understand this.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it possible to connect a bluetooth mouse + keyboard to your android phone? (I did this ages ago allready on my Pocket-pc)
A touchscreen (even multitouch) works by the same principals no?
I think Pioneer's it-devision is taking things to far at once and they should re-think the whole app. I'm not that experienced with coding (I'm a modder, not a creator), but from Android 3.2 and up (when the device supports mhl or hdmi out) the procedure call for android.permission.BLUETOOTH and android.permission.EXTSCREEN is the same for all devices right?
Hawt tip for any Pioneer engineer happening to stumble on this thread::
Take any android 3.2+ device with HDMI/MHL out
Connect this to a tv using HDMI/MHL to HDMI cable
Take any bluetooth mouse and connect it to your phone (might need a FREE driver app on older phones)
Take any bluetooth keyboard and connect it to your phone (might need a FREE driver app on older phones)
Enjoy manipulating ALL APPS + PHONE GUI on your tv
Cheers!
They currently have something interesting going on in the apple camp with Appradio Extensions 2.0
Appradiomodder, you are correct with the bluetooth. Most if not all android devices now adays support bluetooth devices.
The apk does what it should do when it comes to sending touch commands through the receiver screen to the phone via bluetooth. The problem is that the apk restricts it to certain locations.
That looks promising
But I noticed its for the appradio 1 not 2.
Respect for the guy's work tho! That requires a bit more skills than modding..
I'm not quite sure yet if its the appradioapp that does the restrictions. It could also be an extension is needed from the 'approved app'
I'm gonna check the apk's Carmediaplayer and Carkeyboard this weekend.
I feel it could be both. When you are at the appradio home screen and try to pull down the notification bar it wont do anything, yet in the app on the phone you can pull down no problem.
I found out a couple of things:
It is not possible to make the phone GUI work with the appradio for now. for that to work, a new AppradioApp should be written.
The approved apps contain extra code(smali) wich tunnel the received info (Location info, Parkinginfo, touchlayer info, ...) from the radio and translate that to the app itself.
The approved apps contain extra permissions to communicate with the appradio/-app
If any experienced programmer would want to have a look at this, I'd be happy to share what I found out allready.
- Background picture can be customized (only in app mode)
- ANY app can appear in the approved apps list on the radio and they CAN be started by pressing the radio's screen
The search goes on...
Appradiomodder said:
- ANY app can appear in the approved apps list on the radio and they CAN be started by pressing the radio's screen
The search goes on...
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Can you expand on this? Simply starting an app from the appradio 2 is one step closer.
The MAIN thing i need/want right now is google music. That is my primary source of audible goodness. Everything else is fine that is stock for me. I just figured it would be the easiest route to mirror.
Is there a way to display the phones screen on the tv?
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Hmm a bit behind times are we?
Depends on what roms your running for 1.
Ultragen rom has TV out. I tried it, was going to use my phone as a smart TV function to see xbmc movies, and doesn't work for me. Maybe not the right cable.
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What about on stock? Right now I'm on galaxy beam
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It works on stock.
Could we get someone with a little knowledge to elaborate on this topic? I've been trying to get tv out my phone for two years. The ONLY rom I've ever been able to get it to work with is Ultragen. I don't like ICS though. Does anyone know of a BML rom in which tv out will work? Does anyone know WHY it matters what rom you have? Or maybe how to change something somewhere to make it function properly? I would LOVE to be able to get it working on Valhalla Final.......
I keep hearing ....its a matter of the right cables....I've purchased several cables at different price ranges...and hooked them up multiple ways and the best I've managed to get is a very distorted partially visible snowy screen with audio.
And that's with every rom.
From what I understood is it works on CM9, but there is a green line when you change the rotation.
Alternatively, if what you want is to display pictures or videos from your gallery on TV
and assuming you have Smart TV hooked up to your router. You could use iMediaShare
app, (or any DLNA capable app in the market) it works wonders, to stream any video
or pictures from your phone (or youtube) to your TV. Without the hassle of cables
and such.
Besides, I used RCA cables before with our phone, and picture quality is (outright) crap.
Thanks all for the input. Smart TV, which I just purchased anyway, is a pretty good option.
My main interest in the feature was the ability to play emulators from my phone on the tv.
I read a post FBis251 wrote about being able to sync your wiimote to your smartphone so you could use it as a controller for your emulators.
Not too big a deal, as I don't travel often, it would just be neat.
Once again, thanks for the input all.
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Take the TV out cables you have and shove them as far up your ass as you can....we r all sick and tired of your babble.....and now your spamming dev threads with telling devs their rooms are incomplete becuz they don't incorporate TV out for you? You are such a dumbass
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I wish I could help you but I'm still hurt from the last time I touched on the subject
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Wow dude that was an old pm and I even apologized for that....and now almost a year later if not longer your going to pop this out from your pm?
And I had even supported you a few times after that lol.
And yes at that time you were spamming the dev threads with....."your rom is incomplete"....which was very uncool.
Haha, this is too funny. Man, talking about holding grudges. I guess the man doesn't forget easily.:thumbdown:
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Can we try to get back on the track of the hows and whys of this feature?
As in why? doesn't the feature work...
and how? could I, an average American with a little bit of itelligence and common sense, fix it?
I'm by no means trying to take away from what the devs do, it simply amazes me, but there has to be a way of getting the feature to work.
I would not go as far to say the roms are incomplete without the feature, as it wouldn't be used that often, but come on guys, how cool would it be to have a multi platform emulator on the fly!?!?
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could I, an average American with a little bit of itelligence and common sense, fix it?
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Nope.
It works on GB. Go back to GB, stay on GB and use TV out.
@lumin30-I'm so sorry man. I just read your post and realized I forgot to thank you for your pm response. My bad my man.
I haven't figured it out on GB. I got it on the Ultragen, which I believe is ICS, so anytime I need the feature I just switch to my Ultragen backup.
Only downside is I haven't figured out how to get back to GB other than Odin, which really isn't a big deal either, just a little inconvient.
Tv out works on ics but has a green bar at bottom of screen in landscape but not in portrait. Here are instructions with pics and a link to a video. Make sure you select NTSC. For some reason default PAL. Also make sure your 3.5mm jack has 4 pins like the one in the pic.
http://www.careace.net/2010/07/28/how-to-use-samsung-galaxy-s-tv-out-feature/