Hello all,
Installed my trusty 16 gig card that already had Copilot installed on it. Proceeded to Market and downloaded the app and installed.
Typically the app will find the maps on the sd card and all works fine.
Well with the 5 or so gigs considered "internal sd" and the "external sd" in the file system, Copilot didn't pick up the maps! I tried Copilot Central on the desktop and considered my phone a Copilot device, but saw 0 bytes free so I couldn't reload the map from my PC.
So long story short I had to manually copy the NA map folder off of my 16 gig "external sd" and copy it into the Copilot directory on the "internal sd".
After that Copilot worked fine.
So I dont know if this is the way this "internal/external sd" card stuff typically works (first phone with this much usable internal space", or a bug in the way Copilot handles things?
Hope this helps someone.
fhaines
I copied the EU map in the correct folder in the internal sd, and doesn't see the map.
I loved this phone when I bought it. In the last 2 days I had so many problems I never had with other phones. The wifi hotspot gave me a lot of problems. I'm not able to use gps. The whole internal / external sd is really annoying. With my old phones I never had this problems. I regret I sold the HD2, was perfect with WM and Android
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Hi folks,
is there a way to place TT N3 on my 512 MB SD card? Since I've got the maps on it and TT N3 is of no use without them, I just would find it logical to put them together and remove the whole lot by taking the SD out.
The BT GPS receiver software should still stay on the MDA.
Thanks
It wont work because some files are also written to the main memory even if you choose sd card as install destination.
You can move the app itself over to SD but performance suffers badly and it results in frequent lock-ups. It's not a supported configuration and best avoided.
During installation of TTN3 I installed the app on Storage Card and not in Main memory. Indeed a few items are installed on main memory, but the main app itself resides on CD Card. I have not experienced a lockup o f TTN3 during normal use.
I am a happy user of TTN3 on SD Card.
O2 XDA-I 32 MB:
ROM Version: 4.01.16 ENG
ROM Date: 02/04/04
Radio Version: 4.16.00
Protocol version: 32S54
The lockups occur most on MDAII/XDA2/Qtek2020/iMate.
It is all dependent on the max. data-transfer rate of your SD-card.
I can run from SD fine, IF I do not use POI.
BTW: I dont see the advantage for MDAII/XDA2/Qtek2020/iMate to run completely from SD. With every Hard-reset you will have to re-install because of the tiny bits that are installed in main memory.
For XDA1 I can imaginge that limited memory space is a reason.
tomtom on sd
i have tomtom on my sd!
it can be done!
The app and all components in their own folders on the sd!
From my experience installing TomTom on the SD card does not seem to work to good…
Poor performance huh!!!!
hmmm not sure about the poor performance!
Could you advise me of what I will gain by adding TomTom3 to my XDA rather than my 512mb SD card?
I would love to know what I am missing out on speed wise! :lol:
After a short amount of time TomTom just starts to slow down and then dies!! - Installing TomTom into Main Memory or Storage/ExtRom works fine...
Jimbob, are you saying that you could remove your sd card and have a complete install of tomtom 3 on it, if you try the sd in another phone/pda I think you will find errors thrown up because files will be missing.
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cruisin-thru
You are correct!
I have tried it! it works fine!
merlin_uk
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Thats not how it works!
If you had any shred of brains, you will know that processes only run as quick as the item they are running on!
As long as all other apps and utils are not running, TomTom will run at full capacity!
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JimBobUK, please remove your comments towards myself from this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=61794#61794
I was only talking from my experience... there is no need to be nasty!!
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JimBobUk, there are other ways to point out that someone is wrong. Merlin was not offensive, so no reason for you to react like that.
now for the issue:
My experience is that TomTom can lock-up IF the data transfer rates of your SD-card are not high enough. I experienced this. It has nothing to do with TomTom itself, but with the maps/poi files.
I would like to know HOW you did install tomTom on the SD card completely. When I tried it I noticed some bits that were installed in main memory. Also the registry settings are in main memory. THIS means that if you put your SD-card in another (similar) device TomTom wont work. Also, after a hard-reset TomTom wont work.
These findings were reason enough for me NOT to install TomTom itself on SD.
Our US Editor is always looking for ways to install SatNav to memory cards and leave as much precious system memory free. He has been investigating which components of TomTom can safely be installed to a memory card and which need to remain in main memory.
His findings are about to be published in a short guide he has prepared on how best to achieve this with Tomtom Navigator. It requires some work and mods to the registry and there are parts of the install that need to be left installed in main memory if you want a stable system as well as registry entries etc.
It is not possible to install every element of TomTom Navigator to SD such that transferring the card to another device will allow access to TomTom.
i will put my card in another device that does not have TT3 installed and give you the results
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So there’s no confusion, I thought I would restate my experiences when installing and using TomTom 3 on an SD Storage Card…
When installing TomTom, for the application I specified that the installed location would be the SD Storage Card. Installation went smoothly and the following components were installed as follows:
Installed onto the SD Storage Card:
TomTom Navigator Voice
TomTom Navigator
Installed into Main Memory:
TomTom Wizard
TomTom GPS
What happens is that the components TomTom Navigator Voice and TomTom Navigator get installed on to the target specified during installation and components TomTom Wizard and TomTom GPS always get installed into Main Memory.
I then install the TomTom Maps on to the SD Storage Card.
The above installation all seemed to worked perfectly… but what I was finding was that when using TomTom in the car and after some time driving, TomTom seemed to slow down… what I mean by this is that the refreshing of the screen slowed down and began to become jerky… some time after this the device would hang which meant doing a soft reset (a little difficult when driving!!)
So I uninstalled TomTom and then reinstalled it, but this time I stated that the installed location for the application would be Main Memory, which meant that only the TomTom Maps would be installed onto the SD Storage Card. By doing this, it all seemed to fix the problem for me…. at the time I did not have time to investigate the reasons why I was having these problems, I just needed to have a working version of TomTom that I could rely on in the car.
The problem could not be anything to do with the number of processes running as I always made a point of closing everything first before running TomTom. Also if it was a process problem, then this would have affected TomTom irrespective of whether it was run from Main Memory or Storage Card.
My conclusion at the time was that it was not going to be suitable for me to run TomTom from the SD Storage Card, and therefore decided to install to Main Memory instead. This has recently changed, however, and I now run TomTom 3 from my Extended Rom which all seems to work great and frees up my Main Memory.
I hope this clarifies my experiences with TomTom 3.
Has anyone else got problems recieving phone calls whilst using TTN3 ?, my phone wont ring whilst TTN3 is running and i seem to miss all my calls,
Is there a solution to this at all ?
Cheers
merlin_uk said:
I now run TomTom 3 from my Extended Rom which all seems to work great and frees up my Main Memory.
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Probably a silly question, but how did u install TT3 to ur X. ROM?
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smiley_thing69 said:
Probably a silly question, but how did u install TT3 to ur X. ROM? Smiley
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When you run the installer you choose 'Storage Card' rather than 'Main Memory' but this does not install everything to storage card.
We will be publishing an in-depth guide to how to move everything that can be safely run from the storage card shortly at PocketGPSWorld. There are a few small files that need to be left in main memory to ensure stability.
smiley_thing69 said:
Probably a silly question, but how did u install TT3 to ur X. ROM?
Smiley
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I used the ExtendedRom Unlocker to gain access to the ExtRom, the download can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/download.php?id=567
I then copied the content from the ExtRom to my SD Storage Card and then deleted everything from the ExtRom.
When reinstalling TomTom you should now be able to select the ExtendedRom as the target installation location...
TomTom SD Card Install?
Hello,
Does anyone know whether it's possible to put an install for Tom Tom onto an SD Card?
I've got to install TT onto like 70 M1000s then ship them out. I'm concerned that the battery may die in transit and main memory will be wiped. In which case TT will need re-installing :evil:
I've gotta get an activation code for each copy of TT before installing it onto the M1000 and the install takes over 30mins
With activesync I'm not able to install it onto more than one unit at any one time but if I could copy the files direct to SD card and run the install from there I could save myself a lot of time and hassle! Plus if the battery runs out I could fire up the install and everything would be sweet.
My concern is putting the install onto the SD card and passing the activation code to it.
If anyone knows an answer to this I'd be grateful for some pointers!
Thanks
Even if you said to TomTom 6 to be installed on the Storage Card, it will install itself on the MAIN memory !
Has someone managed to move the 2 biggest files:
- Tomtom navigator.exe (~2MB)
- data.chk (~2MB)
to the storage card to save (4MB here!!) the precious main memory ?
I have found nothing except this but it is for TomTom 5:
http://www.4winmobile.com/q-how-can...934.html?sid=494a2df12b48a1e8fdca8ae0e7bfb752
Yes, I moved the whole Tom Tom directory that is installed to the Main Memory, to the Storage Card and run the Navigator exe from there.
Another thing is if you do a Hard Reset you dont after reinstall it again, it will run directly from the Storage Card, you just have to create a shortcut.
The difficulty with copying everything across to the SD card is that TomTom Home then can't find the installation on the pocket PC. Have you found any way around this?
Andrew
Yes, what are the consequences of moving the folder to the storage card ?
chris247 said:
Yes, what are the consequences of moving the folder to the storage card ?
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Well, the only problem is that it is a little slower to startup and get going, but once thats done Ive never noticed any difference.
The only thing is you cannot use the Today plugin (but I never did anyway), I just created a new shortcut in the Start Menu, that does it for me.
I agree with coercri (although I don't find it is any slower to start from my SD card, probably because I stuck in a relatively fast card ). But that still doesn't get around the problem of not being able to update the POIs using TomTom Home (which is much more convenient than copying the individual files to a number of map sub-directories). Maybe the answer is a Registry hack to point the installation directory to the card. I will try it.
I don't use the Home application so this is why it has never bothered me, I donwload the Camera Updates and just copy them to the GBMAP directory.
Thanks for you advice. I moved my TomTom folder in Program Files from main memory to the SD card. It works great !
The speed is the same as on the main memory and the application load is as fast as on the main memory. Maybe this is due to the fact that I took a fast SD card.
I am not using TomTom Home so I don't have this problem. I suggest you use Resco Explorer Registry editing tool and make a search for '\Program Files\Navigator' you should find so occurrences, change them to '\<name of your storage card>\Program Files\Navigator'
Thanks for that. In the end, I simply went back to copying the OV2 files across.
Incidentally, I have now moved TomTom to the Extended ROM and it is faster than running from the SD Card.
For those like me who have had many failed attempts with TT6 and TT7 using legitimate software and maps I asked ALK (CoPilot) if their CoPilot 7 Touch Diamond edition would would on our devices and allow it to install to an SD card rather than internal memory. They replied that it could be manually copied.
I ordered it and got the CD today.
I copied the CD (DVD) to an SD card, and then moved the files in the Data directory into the CoPilot directory on the SD card.
Inserting the SD card triggered the WM6 cab file to lauch and install the base application on the device.
It's not TomTom but am well pleased with the results and a GPS satellite lock took around 2 minutes even from indoors.
I've downloaded the Camera POI's from PocketGPSWorld and loaded them and all looks good.
Money well spent I think
I just sent back my Garmin (have two units for the vehicles, but don't like that you can't move the data on the card to another, and the ones they sell have 400MB free).
Do you have a link? I want to ensure I can get the US covered with their software. Right now, I'm just using Google Maps. It works well for freeware, but it has me at a location half mile away.
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I just sent back my Garmin (have two units for the vehicles, but don't like that you can't move the data on the card to another, and the ones they sell have 400MB free).
Do you have a link? I want to ensure I can get the US covered with their software. Right now, I'm just using Google Maps. It works well for freeware, but it has me at a location half mile away.
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www.alk.com
There is also an option to buy and download the diamond application from handango for the same price. Its a 275MB download for the UK maps. Copied the files onto SD card, which then autorun and loaded the main application (11mB) onto the main memory. At last, my estate is correct - the latest maps from tomtom still have non existant roads and roads that go through houses!!!! Full postcode support as well.
iGO8 is great too
Yes, but you are locked to the SD card they provide or is there a way around that and using my own SD card?
BTJ
yes there is AFAIK
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Hello all!
I have HTC Sensation for a few weeks now. I have got 8Gb SD memory card in ti (it is original, I get card with phone).
Well, I love to listen the music and I just wont to upload about 6 Gb of music to card, but there was just about 3 or 4 Gb of free space. So I hust upload 4 Gb of music. (And now, I can't even shoot a movie , becouse there is not enough free space )Well, then I search the memory card and realized, that there is a lot of folders which was not copied on the card, but Android made them. And I have got all applications which I download from market installed in internal storage. So, should I format memory card? Will phone work normally after formatting?
BTW: But there is a map .data which is 2Gb big. That is a lot. And there 4 maps in there. 3 are almost empty (HTC Watch, trips, footprints) and one is 2Gb big. It is map called "navigator". Should I delete it, and if I delete it, will phone work? (Probably yes )
Thanks, and I almost forget, sorry for my bed English =)
Try format it with Panasonic SDFormatter Tool.
View attachment SDFormatterv3.0.zip
Thanks for this tool, but will phone work after formatting. Probably yes, but whay then are this .data map for?
First thing I did when I got my sensation was to put the 16GB sd card into it from my Hero. I made a copy of the Sensations existing SD card contents (by mounting as disc drive) on my PC first so that if I needed anything I could use it.
The map in the navigation folder is for use with HTC's Locations software, which is a mapping software similar to Google Maps, only with onboard maps. As I understand it yours comes with a standard map of the country you bought the phone in - so mine came with UK and Ireland (and also France). You can download as many other maps as you want free of charge. If you go into the Maps folder it will tell you which ones you have got, because the file name is the country name.
If you want it to act as turn-by-turn navigation then you have to pay for an update. I have been told it is based upon some pretty old sat nav software (Route 66 I think) and is not very good.
So if you don't want it just delete the maps file. It won't affect your phone, but you won't be able to use HTC's Locations. But then you can probably download the maps later if you want them
peterc10, thank you very much!
I don't have bigger card, so, I will delete this useless files (but I will made backup on computer ) =) I hope everything will be all-right.
Thanks!
matejm1994 said:
peterc10, thank you very much!
I don't have bigger card, so, I will delete this useless files (but I will made backup on computer ) =) I hope everything will be all-right.
Thanks!
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Don't forget to backup your movies and important data files before.
Have CoPilot Live, but it will not install the maps b/c "not enough space". I travel and and need the full US Map (think 1.2gb). Which obviously isn't going to fit on the internal. Whats the point of an app you can't even use??!? I tried searching on here and still don't get how your supposed to use maps from the external card. I see dozens of threads saying modify this, change the config to this, try to config this way etc. I copied the app folder to the external but still can't get maps to download, and if it did now I would have two installs of CoPilot (internal and external card).