A G2 converts review... - T-Mobile LG G2x

OK, I’ve now spent hours with the phone setting it up and configuring it. I had to do it twice because it got stuck at the LG spinning progress bar and a weird “checking system” warning was displayed on boot. I had to hard reset it and rebuild it (always easier the second time). Interestingly, it’s behaving better after the hard reset so newbies might want to do a hard reset when they first get the phone.
I’m coming from a G2 so first a comparison:
It’s light. The G2 feels like it weighs twice as much.
It crisp looking. The G2 looks old next to it.
I hate the reversal of the home and settings soft keys. I’ll get used to it through retraining but it’s a pain.
The screen is more responsive and a lot more vivid.
The volume rockers on the right vs. left side isn’t a good thing because when holding the phone to use the power button your hand is naturally right where they are.
HTC has far more customization settings. There’s only one notification sound for everything and you can’t set a vibrate (either alone or with sound).
Bluetooth audio is 1000% better. It sounds like a CD in my car. You can also answer a call and Bluetooth audio starts up again – a huge bug in the G2.
Not having LED’s sucks and the bizarre charging screen LG implemented as a replacement when you press the on/off switch is just stupid.
The things I like about the phone:
It’s fast. I’m using ADW Launcher and the 4D app drawer just flies. So does the moving wallpaper when scrolling.
WiFi is fast. It downloaded my Rhapsody playlists as fast as my i7 desktop.
Call quality is good – better than my G2 according to people I’ve asked.
The speakerphone works great, even with background noise. They hear me clearly and I hear them loudly.
It charges incredibly fast on AC power.
The battery life’s been good because I’ve been hammering away at it for hours. Although, once you go below 50% it seem to start dropping a lot faster.
It feels solid and good in the hand and the materials are high quality.
Bluetooth works better on this phone than any I’ve ever owned.
PlayOn which is a real CPU and bandwidth hog plays well over 4G which it didn’t on the G2 so the Tegra2 really does make a huge difference.
Things I don’t like:
4G is slow. My G2’s best speedtest.net score is 10289 down and 1582 up. The average is in the mid-8’s down and about 1.2mb up. The best score on the G2X is 7013 down and 1263 up. Average is in mid-6’s down and 1mb up. Not great performance for a state-of-the-art phone. One of the pro reviewers said it's slower than the SideKick, she's right.
The on/off switch is nuts. You have to press it forever and you still don’t know if it registered with the phone. I get that it’s so you don’t accidentally turn the phone on, but really? Also, since you have to press it so long and the volume keys are in a bad place you could accidentally restore your phone.
When the phone’s charging and you press the on/off switch some bizarre battery graphic appears. You have to press the switch again to get the phone to start up. If you press too long, it shuts down. Does anyone at LG actually use a smartphone?
Let’s talk software. TeleNav, really? Why load something that no one with Google maps is going to use that just hogs memory. And what’s with not pre-loading voice synthesis so you get a warning the first time you use voice dial to download it? They took out Quickoffice and replaced it with Polaris Office. You’d think you were getting a program to create and edit files, right? No, it’s a poor man’s version of Astro. All the T-Mobile stuff beside My Account and My Device is crap and a waste of memory.
There’s limited personalization. You get one notification sound for everything with no discreet vibrate option. HTC offers 10x the personalization.
I use Mobile Signal PRO to monitor my cell and Wi-Fi reception. It’s always been spot-on on my G2. It’s never shown the G2X to be on the 4G network while the T-Mobile indicator has never shown it to drop below 4G (which is impossible). Something funky is going on with the radio software.
Could this thing take any longer to start-up or shut-down? I mean seriously. First the LG logo, then the spinning progress bar, then the launching android, then loading internal SD, loading external SD, loading media files. All-in it’s easily twice as long to boot up as my G2. Same thing with shutting down. And after it got stuck on the spinning progress bar and I had to reset it, I cringe waiting for the stupid Android blast-off screen to appear.
So It’s only day two but I like more than I dislike. I’m definitely keeping it barring any unforeseen future weirdness once I start using it day-to-day. Hopefully as LG gets smarter with high-end devices some of the quirks will be addressed with software updates. Right now, based on the way I use it, I’d say it’s a good phone but not the phone-to-end-all-phones. There might be a Sensation in my future.

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The thread of Known Issues

This forum seems to be really negative. And it scares people away. I don't want to start a thread that says "OMG, I love this phone so much" because nobody wants to read that and, well I don't love a phone that much. So I figure why not have a thread that has all the known issues? So people can have a better idea of what to expect.
Well, to start off, I want to say there is no perfect phone in this market. Every phone has issues. Anyway, you will use it for only 18 months and then throw it away. So don't act like you are making a life decision.
1. hardware related
(1) Random shut down.
Possibility: 1/5. Reported by some users. I personally never have this issue.
Solution: exchange for a new one.
(2) Poor battery life.
Possibility: 5/5. Don't have high hopes on battery because it is a huge smart phone. But don't freak out if it only lasts for 5 hours in the first day. It will get better (much better) after several cycles.
Solution: There are tricks all over the internet.
(3) Soft key backlighting isn’t tied to screen timeout
Possibility: 5/5. Soft key backlight time is about 2s. It can't be changed, no matter what the screen timeout is.
Solution: none.
2. software related
(1) Performance Lag.
Possibility: 4/5. As powerful as this phone is, you will feel sluggish once in a while. For example, transition delay, touch response delay. Most annoying: phone freezes when installing apps from the market.
Solution: by using Launch Pro or ADW, you can have a better and smoother experience. But the phone still freezes when installing apps. All you can do is to wait for the installation to finish. Things might get better after the 2.2 update. But there is no official date for Froyo in the US market yet, so I can't say that's a solution.
(2) GPS
Possibility: 4.5/5. Seems like lot of users have this problem. Few users claim theirs are fine.
Solution: None. Samsung promises a fix by the end of Sept.
(3) Sideload apps
Possibility: 5/5. You can't install out-of-market apps.
Solution: You can root. If you don't want to ruin your warranty (I don't), you can use Sideload Wonder Machine. I used it for Genie Widget and Angry Bird. Both worked fine.
(4) Calendar
Possibility: 5/5. When adding an event, the default calendar is the locally "My calendar". And it won't get synced to your online calendar. You have to manually change it to your gmail calendar EVERY TIME.
Solution: none.
(5) Browser brightness setting
Possibility: 5/5. There is a separate brightness setting for browser. It could be annoying when the screen has different level of brightness.
Solution: none.
(6) Music player
Possibility: 4/5. Stock music player doesn't recognize playlist. You might be frustrated to find an alternative one. you may have to pay for a music player.
Solution: I want to say none. You can always find one in the market. But it was not a pleasant experience for me.
(7) status bar trick
Possibility: 2.5/5. You can slide on your status bar to change the brightness. It could be a welcome trick or annoying feature. Screen brightness is so important to your precious battery life, sometimes you don't want to accidentally slide on your status bar.
Solution: none. You can love it or hate it.
I just want to list all the issues that you'll have. Potential buyers can make their own judgement. Please reply if you can think of any other problems. But please don't say things like "you can always root" or "flash your rom", or "there is an fix coming soon".
[update] A lot of the items I listed were not defective issues. But they could be complaints. They could be something you don't like and you can't find a way to change. And i don't care if it's from AT&T or from Samsung or from Google. As long as it might be a problem, I am listing it here.
Calendar:
Does not recognize phone numbers or URLs in any part of calendar event (no click to call or launch web page)
Contacts:
Looking up GAL contact (global address list) only available from compose email screen, and only returns email, not phone number.
Email:
No control over which folders sync (Exchange); No select all option; other minor issues
mwxiao said:
Well, to start off, I want to say there is no perfect phone in this market. Every phone has issues. Anyway, you will use it for only 18 months and then throw it away. So don't act like you are making a life decision.
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Agreed. Most new phones especially complicated ones have issues. But it would be nice for it to work as advertised.
We don't really know yet if some of these are software or hardware. The GPS issue for one looks like software but may turn out to be hardware. Too soon to tell. Let's hope they have a real fix for it because even though it is not critical, it is a useful multi-purpose tool that many of us rely on daily. I expect it to work. I am patiently waiting for the promised fix but if it doesn't prove reliable, I have to find a different phone.
Random shut downs. I returned one Captivate because of this. Again, hard to tell if its hardware or software but I am assuming hardware and returned mine.
Poor battery life. Not as much an issue as it is a relative expectation. Seems a lot of the faster Android devices and even the IP4 run out of juice pretty quickly. My BB 9700 will last twice as long but maybe that's because the screen is half the size, half the resolution and half the brightness.
Also, a handful of Captivates have a problem getting into recovery/download via the three button method. Only a handful as of now.
As for the software issues... well, let's hope we get plenty of good ROMs from Samsung and plenty of modded ROMs from the smart folks around here!
mwxiao said:
This forum seems to be really negative. And it scares people away. I don't want to start a thread that says "OMG, I love this phone so much" because nobody wants to read that and, well I don't love a phone that much. So I figure why not have a thread that has all the known issues? So people can have a better idea of what to expect.
Well, to start off, I want to say there is no perfect phone in this market. Every phone has issues. Anyway, you will use it for only 18 months and then throw it away. So don't act like you are making a life decision.
1. hardware related
(1) Random shut down.
Possibility: 1/5. Reported by some users. I personally never have this issue.
Solution: exchange for a new one.
(2) Poor battery life.
Possibility: 5/5. Don't have high hopes on battery because it is a huge smart phone. But don't freak out if it only lasts for 5 hours in the first day. It will get better (much better) after several cycles.
Solution: There are tricks all over the internet.
(3) Soft key backlighting isn’t tied to screen timeout
Possibility: 5/5. Soft key backlight time is about 2s. It can't be changed, no matter what the screen timeout is.
Solution: none.
2. software related
(1) Performance Lag.
Possibility: 4/5. As powerful as this phone is, you will feel sluggish once in a while. For example, transition delay, touch response delay. Most annoying: phone freezes when installing apps from the market.
Solution: by using Launch Pro or ADW, you can have a better and smoother experience. But the phone still freezes when installing apps. All you can do is to wait for the installation to finish. Things might get better after the 2.2 update. But there is no official date for Froyo in the US market yet, so I can't say that's a solution.
(2) GPS
Possibility: 4.5/5. Seems like lot of users have this problem. Few users claim theirs are fine.
Solution: None. Samsung promises a fix by the end of Sept.
(3) Sideload apps
Possibility: 5/5. You can't install out-of-market apps.
Solution: You can root. If you don't want to ruin your warranty (I don't), you can use Sideload Wonder Machine. I used it for Genie Widget and Angry Bird. Both worked fine.
(4) Calendar
Possibility: 5/5. When adding an event, the default calendar is the locally "My calendar". And it won't get synced to your online calendar. You have to manually change it to your gmail calendar EVERY TIME.
Solution: none.
(5) Browser brightness setting
Possibility: 5/5. There is a separate brightness setting for browser. It could be annoying when the screen has different level of brightness.
Solution: none.
(6) Music player
Possibility: 4/5. Stock music player doesn't recognize playlist. You might be frustrated to find an alternative one. you may have to pay for a music player.
Solution: I want to say none. You can always find one in the market. But it was not a pleasant experience for me.
(7) status bar trick
Possibility: 2.5/5. You can slide on your status bar to change the brightness. It could be a welcome trick or annoying feature. Screen brightness is so important to your precious battery life, sometimes you don't want to accidentally slide on your status bar.
Solution: none. You can love it or hate it.
I just want to list all the issues that you'll have. Potential buyers can make their own judgement. Please reply if you can think of any other problems. But please don't say things like "you can always root" or "flash your rom", or "there is an fix coming soon".
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ok well I want to address these one at a time
1) random shutdowns - true, seems very hit or miss on who it affects and how often.
2) poor battery life - I have to strongly disagree with this. almost everyone seems capable of eeking at least a day out of their battery even with heavy usage. if you aren't getting at least a day, either the battery or unit is defective in some astounding way or you're using GPS while streaming videos for 7 hours a day.
3) soft key timeout - this isn't an "issue." if the iPhone 4's antenna thing is a "total non-issue," so is this. it may not be the most sensible decision to have them on different timers (it would be preferred that we could manually set this), but this isn't an "issue," this is just personal preference. I personally don't mind it at all since I rarely press them when I'm using my screen, and if you truly use this phone, it isn't hard to remember where they are
1) performance lag - true, but I'm kind of willing to believe a lot of this will be fixed when froyo is released. to me, it's pretty obvious samsung is working on this since the JH2/JH3 builds are way faster than JF6 without any modifications.
2) GPS - definitely an issue I can agree with. Samsung should have been on this faster (even the Fascinate users are claiming issues already). they should have rolled out of a fix by now considering how many phones they have out there in the world.
3) sideloading apps - seriously? this isn't Samsung, this is AT&T. If you've got an android phone on AT&T, this is what you're going to have to live with without personal modification. don't like it? stop being on AT&T
4) Calendar - can't comment, don't use
5) Browser Brightness - again, a non-issue. you can use the slider bar to change it on the fly (which is a massive improvement over other android phones IMO) or set it to whatever you'd like
6) Music Player - can't comment, replaced with stock 2.1-update1 music player for personal preference
7) status bar trick - I don't see how this is even considered an issue. if you're manually setting your brightness, does it make more sense to do this or go into settings, sounds and display, brightness, and adjusting it there to change it right back moments later? no. I personally think this was a brilliant move on samsung's part. I keep my screen on the lowest brightness almost always, and then I realize I need to turn it up because the sun is too bright, so I can just fix it instantly by pulling it down, turning it up, and then turn it down when I'm done. if you're doing automatic brightness, this "trick" doesn't even work
edit: I'm just saying that if you're going to bash the phone for these issues, let's agree what is actually an issue and what is just user-preference related
Kaik541 said:
edit: I'm just saying that if you're going to bash the phone for these issues, let's agree what is actually an issue and what is just user-preference related
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I agree - separate bugs that affect 90% of the phones from other variables.
My phone has never rebooted or shutdown on its own, and it is not something 90% of the people are complaining about - unlike GPS.
Battery life is subjective and based on usage. Compared to my iPhone it is about the same. BB - definitely better, but as mentioned the screen is smaller, and BB controls the sync settings - so not a fair compare.
Music player has a workaround for playlists - move music to phone, go to recently added playlist, select all, create new playlist. Not ideal, but a different way to do things. There are free music players too.
Some things - like the soft key lights - are sort of a gray area - is this a feature implementation or a bug? Probably a feature issue. It is easy for one person's feature request to be another person's bug report.
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I'm just saying that if you're going to bash the phone for these issues, let's agree what is actually an issue and what is just user-preference related
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What I am trying to do, is to list the issues (or complaints if you will) that have been posted. The issues I listed might not necessarily be defective of the phone. They were the things that may raise your eyebrow. I tried my best to be objective.
In terms of user-preference, I won't post it if it is really user-preference. The issues I listed, e.g., status-bar trick, brightness setting, they are NOT configurable. If you like them, great. But if not, sorry there is NO way to change them. That's why I list them as issues. I want to list all the potential issues/complaints so that potential buyers have a better idea what to expect.
mwxiao said:
What I am trying to do, is to list the issues (or complaints if you will) that have been posted. The issues I listed might not necessarily be defective of the phone. They were the things that may raise your eyebrow. I tried my best to be objective.
In terms of user-preference, I won't post it if it is really user-preference. The issues I listed, e.g., status-bar trick, brightness setting, they are NOT configurable. If you like them, great. But if not, sorry there is NO way to change them. That's why I list them as issues. I want to list all the potential issues/complaints so that potential buyers have a better idea what to expect.
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OK, i got you. But some of these issue/complaints are from a vocal minority and I would say they unfairly describe the captivate - especially things like battery life and random shutdowns. Battery life depends on what you do and where you are located. Reboots are probably a hardware issue involving a small group.
IMHO if you are going to mention hardware issues that affect an uncounted minority, then you have to add all the weird stuff people have returned phones for - speaker not working, screen pixel out, volume switch, etc.
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IMHO if you are going to mention hardware issues that affect an uncounted minority, then you have to add all the weird stuff people have returned phones for - speaker not working, screen pixel out, volume switch, etc.
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Well, if there was a loooong thread about screen pixel or speaker, I would have listed them already. Unfortunately, I only see several threads about random shutdown. I did list it as low possibility though, meaning it only happens for a very small percentage of users.
Would there be any merit to posting some of the individual issues as their own thread with a yes/no poll, so that we can see relative numbers about how many people are being affected by a particular problem. Granted, it wouldn't be "scientific data" as the typical poster to those threads would probably be users looking for the info or having the problem, but still...
FWIW, I have a Captivate that is going back today due to the randon shut down problem. Funny enough, the GPS works perfectly.

[Q] Governor app that can set profile for "text input active"?

Is there any speed-governor app for the Xoom that can be configured to lock the CPU to 1000MHz whenever the soft input area is active (or better yet, whenever Graffiti input is active), and/or a way to increase the digitizer sample rate?
Historically, Graffiti has been totally unusable on my Xoom. Literally, so low of a sample rate, and so many errors, that I just couldn't use it. I finally got around to unlocking and reflashing my Xoom to CM10 last night, and locking the CPU to 1000MHz makes it work a lot better... but the accuracy is still a cruel joke compared to even my creaky, old Hero overclocked to 711MHz.
It's pretty sad, actually. On the Hero, the digitizer seems to be reporting samples at least 4-16 times as often, and I can get nearly 100% accuracy without even trying. On the Xoom locked to max speed, it seems to do a tiny bit better than my S3 gets with stock, but the sample rate still appears to be absurdly low compared to what it was on the Hero, and feedback seems to lag the actual touch by at least 100-200ms. On the Hero, feedback was literally instant... stroke, and see the pixels turn white INSTANTLY under my fingertip. On the Xoom (locked to max), they start turning white a fraction of a second after I touch the screen, and I can see the last bit of the stroke render a fraction of a second after I lift my finger away. With the stock Xoom rom, it was more like, "draw the character, and see a jagged impression of it sputter into existence about a half-second later... maybe, MAYBE even getting recognized correctly about 70% of the time".
I'm guessing that either the Xoom's digitizer has a limited sample rate, or something in the kernel or driver is limiting the sample rate... but I'm still trying to find a straight answer somewhere about whether/how you can build a custom kernel without losing your ability to run paid Market apps. Or whether it's even necessary to go to that extreme, as opposed to something like a setting that tells Android to increase the sample rate, or not throttle the CPU when an input area is active, or maybe a way to let something like SetCPU identify "soft input area active" as a profile-triggering condition. I'm also pretty sure that the Xoom's kernel (if not recent versions of Android itself) try to treat the existence of a soft input area as an excuse to massively throttle the CPU, on the theory that it's just displaying a picture of a keyboard and waiting for a blunt press. HOWEVER, I'm SURE there HAS to be an equally-official way of defeating that behavior, if only because it would also screw up Android's ability to handle east Asian input methods.

Apps take forever to open

ESPN and Uber in particular. They sit at the loading splash page on the watch for several minutes when I open them. Also, often ESPN tells me I need the manager app even though it's already installed and logged in. Anyone else having these problems?
I've seen this with several apps that need to access the network to retrieve data before they display. ESPN would make sense -- it could be very confusing to have last weeks scores show up when it starts if you haven't opened it in a while.
So, depending on how good the network connection is (if you're connected via BT, that can often be a performance issue for network over BT), and the responsiveness of the servers the app is contacting, it can take a long time.
The real issue is poor app design handling the busy condition. It should be telling you what it's doing and giving you some sort of progress bar. If the G2 is a successful platform, these sorts of "polish" improvements will become more prevalent, especially if there are competing apps for the same functionality. However, this silent "what the hell's going on" operation was really common on Windows for years too, until the platform got more mainstream.
I also think that, like many apps, it ought to give you the option to update automatically in the background every few hours or so. Uber is useless because I could literally have gotten out my phone, hailed a driver, and been in the car before the watch app even opens. ESPN takes even longer. I feel real cool showing off my new watch by saying, "hold on... no wait hold on... oops the screen turned off, hold on..."

Do I want a Pixel?

My G4 just died, should I get the VZW version of the Pixel 2?
I just want to swap in the nano sim and keep going.
I want to use a custom rom so I need to unlock the bootloader, is this possible?
Swapppa has some reasonable offerings........
LG was a bad experience, want simplicity at its android best.
spyknee said:
I want to use a custom rom so I need to unlock the bootloader, is this possible?
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Not if you buy the Verizon version
Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
ok and then
can I use my current nano sim for puppywireless, a verizon mvno, with the unlocked google edition pixel 2? Verizon wants cdma phones......................
You can buy the unlocked version from Google and use it on Verizon.
>Do I want a Pixel?
Depends on if you do or not.
Jokes aside, you can unlock a Verizon P2 if it hasn't taken the Jan update yet. Visit in store and ask to see a P2 in box, no SIM or wifi please. The box will indicate the factory software. Once you find a winner (hurry, they're fading from inventory) just carefully apply the unlock steps and enjoy.
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Yes, you should, Pixel mobiles are the best mobiles according to my friend's opinion, I'm also going to buy it next week but first I have to write my assignment.
So, I now own a new Pixel 2 Google Edition.
1st Pros:
Luv that its already stripped down and lean in the stock OS. @8.1.0 ver.
1st Cons:
Device does not report battery lvl correctly in notifications tab, always states 100%, icon always shows full.
WiFi icon appears to show only on, no signal strength at all.
Totally dislike notifications tab period! Too much redundancy! To much access points to the same stuff.
Decided that it should be a central home screen. A group of 5, home at center. Now that leaves 4 sides or edges.
1 edge for calling and texting, swipe left edge
1 edge for social media outlet of choice, swipe edge right
1 edge for camera and video, swipe edge down
1 edge for video and music playback, swipe edge up
Or could be other choices instead. Point being all the different access methods, repeat the same things so lets get simple.......................
Its about personalized customization of actual use. right now we just customize the presentation of gui's, color, form. There is nothing intuitive about OS use tho!. Things like smart bullitain are really useless and forced on us, seriously, wonder around with a live feed always going.......no.
spyknee said:
So, I now own a new Pixel 2 Google Edition.
1st Pros:
Luv that its already stripped down and lean in the stock OS. @8.1.0 ver.
1st Cons:
Device does not report battery lvl correctly in notifications tab, always states 100%, icon always shows full.
WiFi icon appears to show only on, no signal strength at all.
Totally dislike notifications tab period! Too much redundancy! To much access points to the same stuff.
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Interesting: on 8.0 the Pixel 2 battery meter stuck at 100% charge for a long time (not permanently), but that was fixed by updates. Should not be a problem with 8.1.
And the WiFi icon works just as expected, i.e. shows signal strength (though no "activity arrows" if you were used to those). So this sounds like something is wrong.
I'm not sure what you are saying about the notifications. Can you give some examples?
Things like smart bullitain are really useless and forced on us, seriously, wonder around with a live feed always going.......no.
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I don't have anything forced on me - I just turned off (or didn't turn on) anything that didn't interest me (with Google's launcher being one of the first things to go). There are always alternatives.
So I have discovered that enabling the ui demo mode was the problem with the status bar and battery level reporting, enabling this bad.
I have learned of and enabled the system ui tuner. This ended all the phone functions, status reporting, very sweet. Now the status bar just reflects certain running services.
I also installed the Android P theme launcher, I like it. Has a sidebar option, the ability to hide the status bar, the ability to alter dock settings. So I essentially dumped some cpu reporting cycles, so to speak, let see how bat life responds.
Without root, I have gotten closer to what I want. Need to get TWRP installed and a nandroid made.
Next thing,
Ambient- Always On Display, many internet posts for disabling. Do Not Disable!
Affects the screen saver display and wake up, touch screen. The touch screen seems to need this enabled for better response. I decided to enable the edges as well. Turned it to full squeeze. Do not wish the assistant but it seems that disabling it, and the rest really upsets touch screen.
spyknee said:
Next thing,
Ambient- Always On Display, many internet posts for disabling. Do Not Disable!
Affects the screen saver display and wake up, touch screen. The touch screen seems to need this enabled for better response. I decided to enable the edges as well. Turned it to full squeeze. Do not wish the assistant but it seems that disabling it, and the rest really upsets touch screen.
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Ehm, AOD is just a additional option that is included so you can check the clock and whatnot without the need of turning on your screen.
The touch response in the screen is controlled at the kernel driver level and is only affected (in a negative way) by yourself and your fingers and how dirty the screen is.
spyknee said:
Next thing,
Ambient- Always On Display, many internet posts for disabling. Do Not Disable!
Affects the screen saver display and wake up, touch screen. The touch screen seems to need this enabled for better response. I decided to enable the edges as well. Turned it to full squeeze. Do not wish the assistant but it seems that disabling it, and the rest really upsets touch screen.
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I might be the only one but I disabled aod with no ill effect that I am aware of. I don't care for it.
Also, enabling the up-down arrows on wifi-data is a simple mod.
aod affects pick up wake, double tap wake. touch responsesivness is very finicky as is, worse with aod off.
spyknee said:
aod affects pick up wake, double tap wake. touch responsesivness is very finicky as is, worse with aod off.
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You are just experiencing some placebo side effects, mate. AOD have NOTHING to do with the screen sensitivity.
The screen- and touch response is controlled at the kernel driver level. Not at software/application(s) level.
AOD
My issue was this, if I left the phone idle and untouched for awhile and then came to it and double tapped the screen, it would not wake up. I would have to use the side button to open. Sometimes the action of lifting would allow the double tap to work, but inconsistant. Doing the squeeze for the assistant was inconsistant as well.
The touch screen acts inconsistantly. If you do a horizontal movement, it interferes with a vertical swipe, I mean things seem to get canceled out. I have to initiate action multiple times to win.
heres the deal, i do not give a flying bleep whether its a hardware or software issue, I would like smart answers that give a solution, not assign a blame or fault. Or tell me I am somehow misinterpreting what I percieved.
So here is my take. The dam phone is overloaded with redundant crap, that steps on each other, interfering with it self. IMO everything in this phone should be disabled at purchase. The consumer should then enable those things it wants! Possibly eliminating over extended, overlapping services and hardware.
Now I say this because it appears that in fact to much was being asked of the phone and it was flipping out basically.
I dumped some google software, pretty much what it would let me.
I disabled the screen saver function, my belief is this was why i would not wake up. Screen saver or no, it times out going to the aod clock display, which I like. Now the phone responds to a lift and double tap everytime......................................................................................
I was using a single home screen, with the android p launcher sidebar. My issue was using swipes to navigate web sites, read stuff, sift thru pages. The swipes were not responding properly, PITA. It seems that by using a single home screen, it stilts the screen edge, makes a dead zone, interferes. Not to mention the right side slider swipe icon is useless as presented. It seems that enabling a 2nd home screen helps with that dead zone. Its not 100% when swiping thru pages but response has gotten more tolerable.
IMO
Thanks to fakebook, everyone should understand what these devices are truly about, DATA MINING.
Google
Verizon
LG,HTC,Samsung,Hauweii
Each and every phone has at minimum, 3 different forms of active data harvesting going on. manufacturers, carriers, media apps. The greatest performance killer of all, not to mention...........................................I have come to despise predictive search algos, targeted marketing adds, basically digital junk mail inundation.
So,
Been using the pix 2 awhile now. Really hated Oreo so I went into beta play to get pistachio. Used ver 3, now 4.
I really liked the initial ver 3 update cuz it removed so much bloat from carrier crap. Less google crap too it seems.
Now I like the responsiveness much better with ver 4. I still have everything I can disabled, disabled or removed. No AOD, active edges, tap to life, no music, movies, tv. No auto pay, auto track, auto search, google talk, nada.
Its a com device, an internet search device, thats it! Bat life is good, real good.
These devices are overburdened with non-sensical, redundancies, that create huge performance impacts. Seriously, how many ways are there to access a smartphone, on all at once.
Now I lift the phone, touch the physical button and walla, works every dam time.
Yep, flexible to meet millions of users needs...
Just dropping this here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/help/worth-buying-pixel-2-june-2018-t3803197
It might also give anyone also in a similar situation additional information to help deciding.

My Ongoing Battle with the G7 Power's Atrocious RAM Management

Hey all, I've had my G7 Power for about 2 years and in the last year or so I have been super frustrated with the handling of background processes, etc.
It can hardly hold a background process. The two worst offenders for me are:
It will kill my music app almost instantly after pausing. This is exceedingly frustrating when an app mutes all other audio and it instantly kills my music.
It will kill my browser when I go to search for a file to upload (for example if I go to upload a PDF to a website I can't because the website has to reload when I come back from finding the file).
In an attempt to solve this I moved from stock to LOS 18.1 and rooted. This was perhaps marginally better, but still overall terrible.
The other day I used this Magisk module to enable the low_ram flag, as well as disabled the Google app (which despite always always hogging RAM also loved to close in the background), which actually kinda solved my problem. It is still not perfect, and I had to find a new weather app, but it's acceptable. HOWEVER, I learned that I cannot use messages for web with this flag on (really Google????), which is kind of a dealbreaker for me.
I happily used stock ROMs on my phones for the last few years and would rather not spend my time making my phone with 3GB of RAM work worse than my older phones that ran MM on 1GB just fine. Any suggestions? Should I go back to Android 9 and never update? I can't even remember if it was better but it seems like it might be.

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