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I have a friend that sent me this message today, which sounds like a great idea:
I've been messing with setcpu and trying out some underclocking profiles. Underclocking while the screen is off as well as reducing the CPU power has gotten me 75% battery left after 8 hours. This is with constant emails but no wireless, bluetooth, or gps. This is better than I was getting under windows mobile.
Using a complete black background as your desktop background screen also helps with battery life. The black areas dont use battery power.
If you install one of the cpu meters, it will show that there is automatic underclocking... mine says it has been running at 100MHz for 76% of the time (1 day uptime).
Android System Info will tell you this.
Now, I'm not sure if this is the same as what you are doing though.
You know, I believe that is correct. I don't know if he is getting any advantage or not. I'll forward the info to him and see what he thinks.
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Using a complete black background as your desktop background screen also helps with battery life. The black areas dont use battery power.
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That only helps if you spend a significant amount of time on your phone's home screen or hit buttons a lot when the phone is in your pocket.
I've found that the best way to save battery life is to use manual brightness. Auto brightness is just too bright. In fact some newer firmware hidden on samsung's site does make auto brightness a bit dimmer.
Using manual brightness I get about one hour and fifteen minutes of screen time per 10% of battery. I get about an hour per ten percent at work, where it's brighter. I get about half that with auto-brightness.
I think one good way to test which i am going to do to tonight is charge your phone and right before you go to bed unplug it and let it run through the night and in the morning see what sucks the most battery. i'm going to assume it should be "phone idle" but if its cell standby then something is sucking data, someone correct me if im wrong .
Just flash to jh2 out jh3. I'm on 16 hours and have 50% left
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I know my 8525 (a precursor to the tilt) had excellent reception. It was far better than average. This captivate is not as good. In my experience the captivate has average reception. I've had much worse.
Well, my buddy that told me about the topic I used to start this thread just stopped by.
He is playing with an Android 2.2 ROM that has been installed on his HTC HD2, which also is undervolted a bit. And of course, tweaking with SETCPU>
He said he is getting email and messages etc as normal; has full CPU and good power when using it (BTW...the Quadrant readings on his phone is coming in at over 1700). His phone has been up for 24 hours, 15 minutes when he stopped in, and he had 58% battery left. Before he started tweaking (and I think before the undervolted ROM), he was getting 11-12 hours on a charge.
Sounds pretty good to me.
I finally decided I would take some extreme measures to aide the BL of my Androids. I have an HTC Inspire and HTC HD2 with Nexus S Android. The HD2 isn't all that bad...much better BL than the Inspire, but I wanted to apply this measure to both phones. Will it help? Only time will tell.
I started by removing all screen widgets. Then I sorted the screen icons so that a minimum of homescreens were needed...got it down to 2 homescreens. Then I deleted all widgets without apps not able to be opened through an icon. Then I went into Applications manager and cleared and stopped all non-used apps and services. I also deleted all duplicate services such as OEM email accounts and their associated syncing....using add-in apps for them. (example: built-in apps and widgets like Facebook, Twitter are uninstalled or disabled and am using another combining app like Seesmic. Same goes for the email app)
What I currently have is an Android iPhone. I'm using only icons on the 2 homescreens. And this makes me understand why Apple refuses to use widgets and stick with icons...to preserve BL. I hope this will improve the BL of my Androids because it is purely horrendous. And it is horrendous with all Androids I've tried and used.
Until the recently announced battery tech breakthrough is made available, this might have to be how Android is used from now on. But I doubt these extreme measures will actually help.
What is the difference between a widget and an application?
An application is a single, whole program package that is loaded into the phone. Examples would be Tapatalk, the default Calculator, and Angry Birds.
An application can have one or more widgets in it -- a widget is an interactive thing you can place on the home screen. It can give you information, and you can tap on it to change what it says. A good example of that would be Beautiful Widgets, or the little Android guy that tells you about how to use your new phone.
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@Marty, how long was your battery lasting prior to the "Extreme Makeover"? Mine currently will last me 2 days. Admittedly, I've not loaded a lot of stuff on the phone yet, and I have the power saver mode start at 70%...but I only need to recharge every other day.
My desire lasts around 2 days with moderate usage. But on a good day (read: many boring moments), it's completely depleted by the end of the day. My biggest battery drainer is whatsapp, if I uninstall the app my battery will last a LOT longer.
If i really need my phone to last for a long time (when Im on a big trip or on a festival) I always use JuiceDefender with a very strict setting. This is a big help, but not for everyday use
whats the point? Where ever you sleep you have access to a plug/usb w/e so whats the big deal ? how hard is it to charge the phone every night? even thought my galaxy s2 hold battery for 40hrs+ i never need that :|
Ive dont the same thing, I also found some build prop and init.d tweaks that improve battery life.
my brightness is always at minimum, i have only one widget,
My battery could last two days BUT i use my phone a lot. like its on for 7 hours with 4.5 hrs screen on.
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whats the point? Where ever you sleep you have access to a plug/usb w/e so whats the big deal ? how hard is it to charge the phone every night? even thought my galaxy s2 hold battery for 40hrs+ i never need that :|
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Hilarious.
ther have been many apps and disucssions on BL. heres some common tips.
screen to lowest brightness possible setting. background data always off unless using market. disable -use wireless networks- options, no gps, no location. also turn off *back up my data*. wifi always off not in use. screeen timeout no more than 2 minutes. turn off animations and transitions. setcpu with moderate settings (if you can do a screen off profile it will be beneficial but beware Sleep of Death.) no live wallpapers. minimum widgets or none. minimum homescreens or 1. startup manger. adfree. location cache app. and battery calibration to get the most juice.
the issues seems to be alot with hardware the Htc inspire and HD2 have 1250 Mah Batteries , which are very small.
If some people are just like me... I can kill at 1800mah battery in 5 hours even at full charge...
I do everything on my smartphone. So anything to save the battery is a good way.
I have the Galaxsy S II and I've managed to drain the battery in 6hours of usage and since I'm not near a power source most of the time then yeah I need all the juice....
I don't sit in an office or am near a power source 80% of the time. I usually carry 2 spare batteries with me and a charger for them just in case.
Cheers! (Extreme power user).
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whats the point? Where ever you sleep you have access to a plug/usb w/e so whats the big deal ? how hard is it to charge the phone every night? even thought my galaxy s2 hold battery for 40hrs+ i never need that :|
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grudas said:
whats the point? Where ever you sleep you have access to a plug/usb w/e so whats the big deal ? how hard is it to charge the phone every night? even thought my galaxy s2 hold battery for 40hrs+ i never need that :|
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Whats the point??
Here is my daily usage :
Alarm goes off at 6:30am (phone gets unplugged)
Blahblah (at work) reply to emails and messages throughout the day, on twitter A LOT (plume premium)
2 calls approx 30 mins each
Play some games at break and lunchtime (Drag racing KILLS my battery, a bit of plants vs zombies, grave defence HD and maybe some pinball deluxe)
more emails and twitter
another 20min call
a little more gaming while im waiting on customers (1hr or so??)
6pm go home for 6:30pm
BAM! battery is at 10-20% and i need to plug it in again.
this is a typical 12hr day for me and im sure others have longer days and i would appreciate not having to rush home (sometimes) if im expecting a call.
so as far as im concerned anything which will save some precious battery on my devices is appreciated.
btw i have reduced my homescreens to 3 and only have 2 widgets running and that has made a great difference to my battery life (esp. on the DHD)
Irvysan
Basically kill factory and carrier bloatware and you are getting better.
One thing I was amazed about was the eBook reader that comes with our Galaxy Tabs, and suppose others too.. it always working even if you dont have or use it.
And remember, the screen is what takes most out of your BL, always. Lower brightness? Get a better ROM with no bloatware and maybe undervolt the screen.
Homescreens dont change a bit. Widgets do, if they update a lot.. more than that notification stuff do. Like if you use a antivirus or antisomething, just check of notifications.. check of any unneeded notifications.
Vibration theorically is what consumes the most.. but since its not as used as the screen, you dont even compare them. But every little bit helps. Check off keyboard clicks and hepatic feedback - vibrations.
Wifi, bluetooth, data... don't actually consume much.. actually it's better if you leave a service stable on, than keep sleeping and switching it. So leave wifi always on, no sleep policy. But when you go out turn it of so it doesnt keep scanning all the time (unless you want to ).
Just like any PC, the more you install.... Just check what you got going on, learn how to check processes and services that keep on all the time, and there are some utils to help stop some crap from starting up. I use ROM Toolbox and Autostarts.. some stuff get activated just because you plug you device to charge!
DONT use task killers... dont let anything like that keep running... and no, GMail push notifications wont use any batt. Maybe pop/imap emails always pollling will use some.. but probably nothing compared to the examples above.
Cheers for my 2 cents.
EDIT: and after Xmas, remove those animated wallpapers!
Is Juice Defender a task killer? Not really sure what is it but I've been wondering about that.
Juice Defender Ultimate has been giving me about a 1/3 more time with screen on max. Why is my screen on max, because I was trying to drain the phone. It's on about 40% now which is still pretty bright. I wouldn't be mad to get more life but I think 20+ hrs with moderate use isn't bad. I think the most I did was search the net about 4 hours total. But I was also, customizing, so it the screen was lit for a while.
This is a TMO GSII I'm talking about.
There are a ton of things you can do, but the truth of it all is that our 3G/4G radios pull so hard they drain the battery, which is why you were on the right track when you disable active since, Facebook and Twitter.
The main two things I do, is
1. add a widget for turning off 3G or 4G (If its in your area).
2. Installed Startup Manager ( it disables startup programs in the unseen background, (my phone is rooted)).
by doing these two things I am able to get 17hrs+ on a standard HTC EVO 4G battery. Keep in mind the more you use the Internet the more it will drain your battery. So I only turn the internet connection on when I need it or the app needs it.
*I also only use one screen and remove unnecessary widgets but I find that doesn't help the battery life all that much, (my personal Preference)
*When I or my sons game on my phone I put it on Airplane more which turns off all Radios including the Phone (call/text)
*Drawback to turning 3G off, you have to wait a few second for the internet to come back on and MMS won't download through your messenger unless have it one.
I've been off the charge for 8hrs and my battery life is still at 65%
Sorry to be long winded but if I know anything its battery life
Completely agree. What's the point. Either you don't use your phone for ANYTHING, and watch the battery last for 2 weeks (literally), or you use it so heavily that it lasts only 2 hours....
I was sick recently, and as such couldn't use my phone (I couldn't open my eyes without getting dizzy, and even closed.... still was). Suddenly my HTC Inspire 4G used only 20% of the battery in 10 hours. The previous day, heavy mail, "friendstream" (HTC's facebook/twitter/etc app/widget), listening to music (well, audiobooks) for about 8 hours, and I had only 20% left. And i've found that overclocking the phone to 1.3GHz helps more than any other tweak.
Don't get me wrong, I'm obsessive about using my phone *and* getting awesome battery life out of it. But the ONLY way to true "maximize" your battery life is to *minimize* your usage. But then you might as well buy a feature phone.
And I know a few people with iPhones. a 3GS and a 4 and a 4S. They don't get any better battery life than I do. Heck, they get worse. Even under the same type of usage.
For me, the problem isn't the usage, isn't what's running, or what's loaded (but it does help/hurt). The problem is that battery technology has NOT kept up with consumer needs, or IT development. Your battery is dying as soon as it leaves the factory. Your battery is dying every time you change it. Especially when it gets hot. your battery dies faster when it's cold outside. We need better energy storage medium. Period.
Buy the biggest battery I can find on eBay....
Use the fsck out of my phone all day and have plenty of battery left.
Problem solved.
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We need better energy storage medium. Period.
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I don't think the use of WiFi could be overstated.
On my Skyrocket, leaving Wifi on (indoors), it'll sip about 1% every hour. I go out and have 4G LTE on, it drinks up about 3% every hour.
Minimizing widgets also helps. I saw noticeably better battery after removing my facebook and Latitude widgets.
The screen also sucks up the most battery. Turn it off on every occasion. Just turning it off instead of letting it shut off by itself has made a difference for me.
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For me, the problem isn't the usage, isn't what's running, or what's loaded (but it does help/hurt). The problem is that battery technology has NOT kept up with consumer needs, or IT development.
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Battery technology has kept up with usage. However, battery size in relation to the power draw, has not.
Compare the size of the back cover on your phone, with the size of the battery. Why is the battery this tiny little 2" square, when the phone is 5" tall and 2.5" wide? Why aren't batteries the same height/width as the phone? Why isn't the battery the same size as the back cover? Why aren't phone manufacturers optimising the size of the battery (meaning, making it as big as possible)?
It would be so nice if phone manufacturers would stop with this stupid "race to the thinnest" crap, and started:
- releasing phones that are actually comfortable to hold like a phone
- releasing phones with batteries larger than a pack of matches
your battery dies faster when it's cold outside.
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Actually, keeping a battery cool makes it last longer, not drain faster.
Can someone please help me with my horrible battery life on my infuse? I cant make it a whole day on my phone. I don't play games on it at all during the day because I work. The only thing I do is make calls and text. I had 100% battery this morning at 6:00am and it is now 1:30pm and I am down to 12%. I am running the latest version of catyrom on my phone and it was supposed to increase the battery life. My phone is less than a year old (probably only 6 months old if that) so the battery on it should not be shot. Any help would be awesome!
THANKS!
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Can someone please help me with my horrible battery life on my infuse? I cant make it a whole day on my phone. I don't play games on it at all during the day because I work. The only thing I do is make calls and text. I had 100% battery this morning at 6:00am and it is now 1:30pm and I am down to 12%. I am running the latest version of catyrom on my phone and it was supposed to increase the battery life. My phone is less than a year old (probably only 6 months old if that) so the battery on it should not be shot. Any help would be awesome!
THANKS!
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Should not be like that. All the uckl2 base ROM have very good battery life.
Try a reflash. I would go into cwm, wipe data, wrote cache, wipe dalvik, fix permission, go to mount, wipe system, data and cache. Re flash ...i would try Another uckl2 base ROM then go back to caty if battery seems better
Buy Juicedefender Ultimate, set it up whichever way works for you. I couldn't tell you about Catyrom and the JD AOSP helper compatibility.
Buy and set up SetCPU to downclock your CPU when your screen is off, and when your phone's charge goes under a certain amount. Change your governor to conservative, ondemand, or smartass. Those will help. You could try undervolting, but be wary of doing it too much.
Look at your battery useage history and work out your app issues from there.
A faster microSD card wouldn't hurt, class 4, 6, or 10 would be better than a class 2, if you're even using a microSD card. Faster read/write means less time reading/writing.
If you need even more power, you could always go to 2G networks if Catyrom allows you to use them. From my experience, it will interfere with speakers on other devices. I have ~8 pairs of speakers in my office, and the interference drives all my co-workers nuts.
And you could always carry a spare battery, which isn't the best of options, but it's a sure fire way to go on
Reduce the number of widgets you use, reduce the number of screens you have, remove redundancy in your apps, and turn off live wallpapers.
Turn off auto brightness, and set it down to lowest valuable that is useable, then bump it up just a bit more. Then set your timeout to something conservative such as 15 or 30seconds or 1 minute.
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Buy Juicedefender Ultimate, set it up whichever way works for you. I couldn't tell you about Catyrom and the JD AOSP helper compatibility.
Buy and set up SetCPU to downclock your CPU when your screen is off, and when your phone's charge goes under a certain amount. Change your governor to conservative, ondemand, or smartass. Those will help. You could try undervolting, but be wary of doing it too much.
Look at your battery useage history and work out your app issues from there.
A faster microSD card wouldn't hurt, class 4, 6, or 10 would be better than a class 2, if you're even using a microSD card. Faster read/write means less time reading/writing.
If you need even more power, you could always go to 2G networks if Catyrom allows you to use them. From my experience, it will interfere with speakers on other devices. I have ~8 pairs of speakers in my office, and the interference drives all my co-workers nuts.
And you could always carry a spare battery, which isn't the best of options, but it's a sure fire way to go on
Reduce the number of widgets you use, reduce the number of screens you have, remove redundancy in your apps, and turn off live wallpapers.
Turn off auto brightness, and set it down to lowest valuable that is useable, then bump it up just a bit more. Then set your timeout to something conservative such as 15 or 30seconds or 1 minute.
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Thanks! I downloaded juicedefender and setcpu both. I had seen juicedefender in the market but was a little questionable about what it does. but I will see what and how good it does tomorrow. I have my phone charging right now so I will upload a pic of my battery life tomorrow around 3 so we can see how my phone is doing. When I looked at the battery usage when I plugged in my phone it was on for 7h 34m 24s on battery and when I plugged it in I had 6% battery. I really hope that this works. like I said all I do is text and call during the day.
Thanks again!
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Thanks! I downloaded juicedefender and setcpu both. I had seen juicedefender in the market but was a little questionable about what it does. but I will see what and how good it does tomorrow. I have my phone charging right now so I will upload a pic of my battery life tomorrow around 3 so we can see how my phone is doing. When I looked at the battery usage when I plugged in my phone it was on for 7h 34m 24s on battery and when I plugged it in I had 6% battery. I really hope that this works. like I said all I do is text and call during the day.
Thanks again!
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JuiceDefender, to put it shortly, will kill your data connection/wifi/gps automatically and will enable them again on a schedule.
Those won't interfere with your texting or calling, but it will interfere slightly with your MMS. You'll have to wait for data to be re-enabled to download pictures/videos.
You can set up a schedule for work to be on a more frequent basis than the one when you're not at work, and once you set the battery threshold and the "ignore on low battery" function, it will stop all schedules once the battery reaches that point.
It will re-enable data/wifi when you turn your screen on so you can use it.
That's about most of what it does and it does work very well.
If you'd like, you can get cheap spare batteries from ebay. They mostly ship from China so they take up to a month to get to you, but they're very inexpensive. I just got my 2200 mAh battery (it fits just like the stock one) and it's not even broken in yet. It's 2 PM where I am and I unplugged my phone at ~8. I'm still above 65%. I don't tend to have very restricted battery use like some folks, but I do look for ways to reduce the battery waste. Most of my stuff works when the phone is in idle/deep sleep. I haven't done much of anything today with the exception of a very few calls and a few texts, a little surfing, and I downloaded a CM7 update from the CM7 port's thread.
When it's been broken in it should do better. CM7 isn't as battery friendly as some other ROMs but I like it very much so far. I have been furiously debating whether or not to move to Zeus ROM, as it seems like the big boy's Infuse ROM right now but I can't tuck away CM7 just yet
EDIT: Another, probably very minor, battery saver would be to download and install Adfree. It reroutes all outbound requests for advertisements to the device itself, so those don't download data and you don't see ads. Instead of them possibly keeping your scheduled data connection on for longer while they download (or pumping up your data useage), they never go outbound because they don't require internet access once checked against the HOSTS file.
Also don't forget to do what qkster advised. Bad flashes do happen, and you could have just had a bad flash.
Bassman--What does about phone say is eating the battery?
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I have never gotten what I thought was decent battery life out of this phone... I work as a field tech so this phone is my office... Serendipity gave me the best battery life of any rom I've tried and I've tried several.
When I first got it I used Infused rom I would average 3 to 4 batteries a day. When I went GB roms that dropped drastically to 1-2... Serendipity would get me through the work day (8-10hrs) and home w/ a little to spare. Lately I have been bouncing back and forth between caty and zeus averaging 2+ batteries a day.
Might add I received my phone as a hand me down from someone at work. He only used it for a few weeks but kept it stock.
On any rooted ROM, i usually use tibu and delete buddy now, facebook, att, tether manager, devive update manager, etc..every possible background crap.
Every user is different, but with just calls and text, is not unusual for me to have 2-3 days before a charge.
Data sync and wifi off when not using data
Rxnelson the about phone says display. But that is the case on almost all phones. I have my auto off set to 1min
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You can also try following basic methods:-
1. Turn Off: GPS, WiFi, Screen Rotation, Bluetooth, APN, Vibration, Animation etc.
2. Minimum Screen Brightness Settings
3. Minimum Screen Timeout setting.
4. Dont install Widgets based apps on home-screen
5. Kill the un-necessary background apps from Task Manager.
6. Use black theme in apps.
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Something I've found helps a lot is rebooting every morning. I'm running Zeus and noticed that the first day after a reboot I get great battery life (light- to medium-use would leave the battery at 50% after 12 hours). By the second or third day, I'd barely make it through the day. Since I've started rebooting every morning my battery life has been great. I also used BetterBatteryStats to help figure out which apps were keeping my phone awake. I learned that the Stocks app runs in the background waking the phone regardless of settings. Juice Defender is really a waste of time - you'll get better battery life by figuring out what's killing your battery and getting rid of it than having Juice Defender disable all of your phone's features when the screen is off(while using battery itself).
Man your battery life shouldn't be that bad. If it isn't a bad ROM flash then you could have a bad battery. Sometimes batteries die after a few months.
I did a lot of testing for apps and whatnot to try and see if I could maximize battery life. I tried all the juice defender and similar apps and didn't really like how they were killing off my services when the screen was off.
I found out that the main killers of my battery life were specific apps. When I used email apps with IMAP push services I noticed that they would kill my battery because they kept preventing my device from sleeping. I sometimes need about 18 hours in a day before I can charge so I really wanted to maxmize the battery as much as I could. I monitor new apps when I install them. Some seem sneaky so the battery stats might say that the app is only using something like 4% but it is also making the Android OS keep alive and use a higher percentage. I have about 70 apps installed but deleted most of the apps that seemed to kill my battery. In an 18 hour day now it is common for me to have at least 50% or more battery left over. It did take me a while to get this kind of battery life though. I was getting pretty frustrated for a while.
I'm running stock GB 2.3.3 (Rogers) and I am on the Bell network in the Great White North.
Hey guys, I know hussainmicromaxa60 has recently posted a battery saving tip post, (copied from cnets post) but really what cnet said isnt of much use. i.e switching off GPS doesnt save battery as android only uses it when it needs to, the rest of the time its off anyway. So I thought I post a youtube video here with the tips I have found actually useful:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUAlbkvlVQ8&feature=youtu.be
The tips are to use programs like cpu spy and betterbatterystats, to find and stop partial wakelocks,
switch to 2g when you are near wifi
Use an app like screen filter when indoors or and at night
And finally check sync intervals for apps and change them to a longer time period.
Let me know what you guys things of the video.
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I have read the new forums that wipe battery stats would extend battery life. I have tried that repeatedly yet I'm not so sure that he does. The jury is still out on this. Perhaps someone that knows better can advice.
I have also read in some forum and I think this comes from T-Mobile, that wiping battery stats does not actually extend battery life.
The only certain thing is that if you want better battery life you must buy a better/bigger battery.
Well, I'm sure some applications can really help your battery (Juice Defender, Green Energy, etc..), however, I gave up all that and I'm using common sense (not a market app).
So, only use wifi when needed, wifi drains battery really fast. Same goes for the use of 3g. Sometimes it's like a taximeter when you turn it on.
Brightness, it does spend battery, keep your screen confortably visible but not on max brightness. Don't know how far "self adjust" works for everyone, but CM7 allows you to personalize the self ajudsting methoods more to your needs.
Voice calls don't spend much battery, what does spend is apps, games (specially the ones with nice graphics and stuff), network, and so on.
I don't listen to music on my phone so... I'm not sure how much battery it takes to use it as a mp3 player, however I have an iPod for that, so I avoid listen to mp3 on my phone.
GPS... hardly use it... only when needed.
So, for all the "extras", only when needed seems to to do the job.
Also, disable "vibrate" when you don't need to. Like, cm7 vibrates on some awkward ocasions, like when you pick up a call, hang up, etc... if you don't need it, disable.
It's really personalizing your rom options to the point where you don't need additional features just for the sake of having them turned on.
Use your phone and features on a "when needed" basis and your battery life will be be longer.
Also, widgets, they do use battery, and sometimes, more than needed. The ones that use Internet (wifi or 3g) use more battery. Facebook, twitter, etc...
One more thing, about the CPU governors this time. I usually keep mine on a on-demand. When it runs low (under 20%), it switches to "conservative". It does get sluggish, but you get a few extra hours out of it. It's usefull for emergency voice calls.
Try to "underclock it" when not using (screen off, charging, etc..) and use overclock if you're really sure you need to. Most of the times the max allowed cpu without overclocking is more than enough, unless you're a performance maniac and need the best of the best performance out of it, there's really no need to overclock it.
If you play a lot with your phone (like me), at least keep a usb cable or a charger with you.
Hope it helps
PS - Some apps allows you to customize the way your phone spends battery. I find Juice Defender really cool for that. Spend about 20 minutes tweaking it for your needs, and the next couple of days with final adjustments and you'll notice improvements.
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I have tried several battery saver, but all the same .. no one gives optimaliasasi on my samsung.. sorry for my bad english
wiping battery stats will not improve battery life.
screen brightness is the major reason for battery drain. so keep the brightness as low as possible
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Things like juice defender ect can be helpful i guess but i have never seen much of an improvement, in terms of wiping battery stats, all it really does it to allow android to read with better accuracy the amount of juice you have left, so it does not increase battery life at all.
Things like cpu governers etc is quite advanced, and I dont know really much about it, but as long as you keep under control misbehaving apps, switch to 2G when needed and dont have apps checking every 15 minutes for new data, you can get through a full day, no problems.
Also, keeping your battery in good condition always helps. First few charges, charge overnight, first week or two never let it go below 50% charge, and keep total discharges to an absolute minimum, and you should have a battery that wont degrade too quickly.
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My battery drain is what you may see in my attachments. Please tell me some good advice to reduce this drain or whether it is normal functioning either...
In conclusion, I'd like to know if it might be convenient to replace the battery and, furthermore, whether there are larger batteries with more autonomy.
My phone is 2 years and half old but to be honest I use it intensively with its battery-case (manufacturer: Newdery).
Thanks!!!
Sorry for late reply, just saw this.
You get 6 hours of battery life with 14% screen on time? That doesn't sound to correct.
My suggestion would be to install the app: AccuBattery. I swear by it - it is very good I think. It will watch your apps much better than the stock android battery monitor. It will also tell you your battery health, the mAh left out of the total of 4000. If you have a very low amount left (capacity wise) then you may want to get a new battery. But make sure to do several charges before taking it as accurate. Use the app for several days, even the little "notes" in the app will tell you this - it's to "acclimate" to your use and give you more accurate statistics.
Hopefully this helps - 6 hours is definitely not good.
theslam08 said:
Sorry for late reply, just saw this.
You get 6 hours of battery life with 14% screen on time? That doesn't sound to correct.
My suggestion would be to install the app: AccuBattery. I swear by it - it is very good I think. It will watch your apps much better than the stock android battery monitor. It will also tell you your battery health, the mAh left out of the total of 4000. If you have a very low amount left (capacity wise) then you may want to get a new battery. But make sure to do several charges before taking it as accurate. Use the app for several days, even the little "notes" in the app will tell you this - it's to "acclimate" to your use and give you more accurate statistics.
Hopefully this helps - 6 hours is definitely not good.
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Hi!!
Thank you very much for your reply!
I forgot it but I already had Accubattery installed on my phone.
In fact, in attachment you have the battery wear data from April 2021 till now..
I hope that I shared you useful data to analyse the issue.
What do you think? What should I take from the app?
I thought that the new Android version 11 is the cause of battery drain as another phone (Xiaomi Redmi Note 10) suffers from it after the upgrade to Android 11..
umby75 said:
Hi!!
Thank you very much for your reply!
I forgot it but I already had Accubattery installed on my phone.
In fact, in attachment you have the battery wear data from April 2021 till now..
I hope that I shared you useful data to analyse the issue.
What do you think? What should I take from the app?
I thought that the new Android version 11 is the cause of battery drain as another phone (Xiaomi Redmi Note 10) suffers from it after the upgrade to Android 11..
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No prob
Could you take an [extended/full] screenshot of the "Discharge" tab? That will show more info about which app is draining more. Also those numbers change I believe on every charge so you'd have to just keep an eye on which app is always at the top of the section under "Foreground App Battery Usage > Battery Usage" section. Hopefully it isn't just "system" or something, hopefully it is an app that you can remove/freeze.
And what does it say for Battery Capacity above the "Battery Wear" chart?
And speaking of the wear chart, you'll want to stop charging all the way to 100%, it looks like you're putting over 1 cycle of wear on the battery very often which will degrade the battery quicker. The 'Charging" tab explains this even allowing you to set a reminder to unplug at a certain charge level (it tells you the higher you charge the more wear you put on the battery - unfortunately that's how batteries work).
theslam08 said:
No prob
Could you take an [extended/full] screenshot of the "Discharge" tab? That will show more info about which app is draining more. Also those numbers change I believe on every charge so you'd have to just keep an eye on which app is always at the top of the section under "Foreground App Battery Usage > Battery Usage" section. Hopefully it isn't just "system" or something, hopefully it is an app that you can remove/freeze.
And what does it say for Battery Capacity above the "Battery Wear" chart?
And speaking of the wear chart, you'll want to stop charging all the way to 100%, it looks like you're putting over 1 cycle of wear on the battery very often which will degrade the battery quicker. The 'Charging" tab explains this even allowing you to set a reminder to unplug at a certain charge level (it tells you the higher you charge the more wear you put on the battery - unfortunately that's how batteries work).
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Hi, thank you for your reply!!
I'm sorry for my late replies..
In the attachments you have what you asked me.
It seems that Facebook drains the battery a lot despite the fact that I don't use it much.
The battery wear seems to be almost one fifth of total capacity for a capacity of about 3200mhA.
I'd like to have something better...
I have set at 83% the alert to reduce the wear of the battery but I wonder how it could work fine when the phone is turned off..
No problem
So, I'm not exactly sure how you use your phone but it looks like the screen-on at 23%/hr looks pretty bad but then also it says combined time was 102 hours? I believe that means how long it's been off the charger. If that's the case you can't get any better battery life than that, that is really really good.
You mention facebook doing a lot of draining. Try researching a good app freezing option on the app store. I only did a quick search but this one came up: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.catchingnow.icebox but read the reviews (I did a quick scan and it looks like it might work as intended) and look around maybe there is a better one. But the point of this is, to freeze any apps in that list (the accubattery foreground apps) you barely use and it will prevent them from running in the background. This will definitely give you better battery life.
And I don't see the deep sleep statistic, is that around 90hrs along with the screen off time? It should be more than the screen off time at least, because if it is then it is deep sleeping correctly (no rouge apps causing it to not deep sleep), but if it's less than the screen off time, then something (maybe facebook) is keeping the phone awake even with the screen off, causing extra battery drain.
And 83% charge is pretty good, maybe even 75% might be better, I think from 0 to 75 it's like .3 or .4 wear but it's like with these batteries once you start going over 75% it jumps in wear dramatically. And if the phone is off (turned off completely you mean?) then the battery won't gain any wear because it won't be in use at all.
theslam08 said:
No problem
So, I'm not exactly sure how you use your phone but it looks like the screen-on at 23%/hr looks pretty bad but then also it says combined time was 102 hours? I believe that means how long it's been off the charger. If that's the case you can't get any better battery life than that, that is really really good.
You mention facebook doing a lot of draining. Try researching a good app freezing option on the app store. I only did a quick search but this one came up: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.catchingnow.icebox but read the reviews (I did a quick scan and it looks like it might work as intended) and look around maybe there is a better one. But the point of this is, to freeze any apps in that list (the accubattery foreground apps) you barely use and it will prevent them from running in the background. This will definitely give you better battery life.
And I don't see the deep sleep statistic, is that around 90hrs along with the screen off time? It should be more than the screen off time at least, because if it is then it is deep sleeping correctly (no rouge apps causing it to not deep sleep), but if it's less than the screen off time, then something (maybe facebook) is keeping the phone awake even with the screen off, causing extra battery drain.
And 83% charge is pretty good, maybe even 75% might be better, I think from 0 to 75 it's like .3 or .4 wear but it's like with these batteries once you start going over 75% it jumps in wear dramatically. And if the phone is off (turned off completely you mean?) then the battery won't gain any wear because it won't be in use at all.
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I noticed that I didn't make all the screenshots, but now I've just done them with regards to this new discharge cycle and you have the deep sleep statistics for a better analysis - they are in attachments.
I asked here for a longer battery lasting and instead I set it as 75% as the maximum percentage value of charge that reduces my autonomy but saves the battery.
However, yesterday I noticed that the charging wasn't deactivated when the phone reached 80% of charge (is the value that was set yesterday). Oughtn't Accubattery deactivate the charging?
The statistics you mentioned in your previous post appear to me a bit awkward even though they are related to many sessions in the last 7 days.
I use my phone with my phone case-battery (Newdery manufacturer) and until few months ago it could charge the phone up to about 80 % when I couldn't charge my phone through its charger. I need the charge to last a day, almost 20 hrs…
I noticed that the phone started to wear - the last few months - when I noticed that I couldn't have the phone working till the late evening and I tried to charge it fully before I left my house...
However, it is clear what I need for my use and habits, thus, new reliable battery-case suggestions would be a good hint for me...
In the end, I don't know what to do about apps that manage the apps freezing because I don't know how Android allows it and if it is worth it..