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How does this work as a laptop replacement in a school environment? Taking notes, web experience, etc. I'm looking to replace my laptop for at school.
How does it do rendering blackboard ?
Any help would be appreciated I might pick one up tomorrow with the keyboard. Is it responsive to type documents on?
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As a direct laptop/desktop replacement, I do not believe it will do that. However, if you are looking for something that is light, takes notes with a stylus, web surfing, movies, music, etc... Then it would be perfect. I am a college student, and have used an iPad and now this for school, and it fits perfectly into my daily life.
With the keyboard dock, this thing would seriously be a netbook type device, so typing on one I would not know. I use the Transformer by itself.
Hmmmm, I have found the best solution for my studies (masters in education) was a touchscreen laptop like the fujitsu lifebook using OneNote. I have the keyboard dock for the transformer and I simply love it. I am currently forcing myself to use this instead of my lifebook simply to see the abilities of this in the classroom. This machine falls a bit short of being the perfect companion, thats pretty good. No OneNOTE, but with printershare that makes up for it a bit.
The lightness of it is huge ofcourse, its sturdy as well. Internet is less cumberson than on a windows based machine. There are several apps that can be used for office, or you could use google Docs. Also, once rooted, you can download any file type and with the USB ports on the dock you will be able to move files at your whim.
ON THE OTHER HAND... (And this point just came to me as I was typing this) I have not used my laptop since I purchased this machine a few weeks ago and currently about to finish my last class. So maybe it is a good solution.
Give me sme real world applications (how you want to use it) and maybe I can give you some suggestions.
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boglwe said:
Hmmmm, I have found the best solution for my studies (masters in education) was a touchscreen laptop like the fujitsu lifebook using OneNote. I have the keyboard dock for the transformer and I simply love it. I am currently forcing myself to use this instead of my lifebook simply to see the abilities of this in the classroom. This machine falls a bit short of being the perfect companion, thats pretty good. No OneNOTE, but with printershare that makes up for it a bit.
The lightness of it is huge ofcourse, its sturdy as well. Internet is less cumberson than on a windows based machine. There are several apps that can be used for office, or you could use google Docs. Also, once rooted, you can download any file type and with the USB ports on the dock you will be able to move files at your whim.
ON THE OTHER HAND... (And this point just came to me as I was typing this) I have not used my laptop since I purchased this machine a few weeks ago and currently about to finish my last class. So maybe it is a good solution.
Give me sme real world applications (how you want to use it) and maybe I can give you some suggestions.
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thanks in advance you are really helping me out. Well some apps i'd like to use would be:
-an office-like application to edit/compose word docs or essays.
-view pdf files
-i have used evernote in the past, but i also like using powerpoint to take notes in the notes pane under slides....(i think with google docs i can toggle speaker notes which may solve this issue)
-another thing on taking notes, can u insert bulleted lists/ numbered lists/ indents to keep notes organized on any notetaking software for the transformer?
-as far as music goes, how does it handle multitasking with music. FOr example, playing audio in the background while i study.
-ease of copying/pasting.
I am thinking it may just suffice and have that 'wow' factor too. I do have a desktop at home, so for anything real intensive i am sure i could use that (which i have been neglecting lately).
Im familiar with rooting/flashing devices as i've come from a captivate and now use a atrix. I feel like im rambling, but the more i type the more it sounds like a viable solution for taking notes in class.
one last thing, i have seen a few threads about some keyboard lag...is this a serious issue? is there a fix? I saw that there are several iterations of the keyboard, is there one i should try and get when i go shopping over others?
i just dont want to have to wait for the keyboard to catch up if i'm taking notes in evernote.
I think i may just pick it up tomorrow and try it out for a few weeks since school isnt until august 29th...but i could use any insight on it i could get!
August 29th... semester system?
I've not used it to take notes yet (summer research), but for school life, entertainment-wise, since I've had it, I haven't used my laptop much for anything other than the occasional Netflix (and I've stopped since I finished BSG ).
I'm using my laptop right now to play some game, but really, the TF has almost replaced everything I need it. The typing lag does kind of suck so if you're some kind of student with a major that will require lots of typing..
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August 29th... semester system?
I've not used it to take notes yet (summer research), but for school life, entertainment-wise, since I've had it, I haven't used my laptop much for anything other than the occasional Netflix (and I've stopped since I finished BSG ).
I'm using my laptop right now to play some game, but really, the TF has almost replaced everything I need it. The typing lag does kind of suck so if you're some kind of student with a major that will require lots of typing..
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how bad is the typing lag? i dont do a TON of typing, but i am taking an online class so i may need to type into a forum style system box to submit.
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i see that it is only an issue with SOME apps? have you used thinkfree office?
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how bad is the typing lag? i dont do a TON of typing, but i am taking an online class so i may need to type into a forum style system box to submit.
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It is not too bad but not like iPad fast either,it lags but catches up easily on everything you type.
It catches up for short typing sessions. When I typed up a document for my parents, it was really noticeable in a bad way though.
The keyboard lag is NOT all the time; I mostly see it in the browsers and its actually rare but when it happens, you know it. A few things to note regarding using this machine for serious work...First there are several apps that can be used for Office (documents to go, and polaris, that latter comes with the machine, but I have yet to find one that has auto-save, and that can be scary when writing those long papers. If the machine is rooted you can copy paste ANYTHING, without root, its kind of a hit and miss.
You can play music in the background, so no worries there. most music apps attach to your task bar in any ways.
The way I find myself using this device many times in in conjuction with my own desktop now or at the school library computers and have this next to me at all times. It is an amazing resource to share information point blank with peeps and youself. There is also a thread somewhere here talkin about a Onenote alternative for android using a stylus, I have yet to try one of these apps.
PDF files are easy enough, here are tons off apps to do this.
Something else to remember is that these pads are getting TONS of attention right now from all kind of devs and apps are being made DAILY, its really just a matter of time for an app to show up to do EXACTLY what you need. IMHO
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Yeah, he's totally right about the apps showing up. Now... all I need is... STRATEGY RPG LIKE FINAL FANTASY TACTICS! (Who's up for making/porting one?)
Anyway, I like my TF for what I've used it for so far. Just grab one and try it, and return it if it doesn't work for you ?
I'm pretty much in the same boat as you bud. I bought the TF foreseeing that I would hopefully be able to us it for school and I was very pleased with my decision in the end.
To answer your questions...
It is a very viable (and in most case preferred) option to do basic school work on, especially simple stuff like note taking and editing documents. The included office app (Polaris) is actually a very nice feature and includes just about everything you would need to type an essay such as indentations, points/dots/whatever they are (as you were looking for), also includes numbering, double spacing, different font sizes and colors. Now it's not a full Microsoft Office replacement, but it definitely has all the basic features you'd be looking for.
You can also find a handful of microsoft office editors in the Android market. I haven't personally tested any of them yet (but will use them when school comes around) however from my knowledge they seem capable of editing word, powerpoint and couple other office applications--which is good enough for me.
To address the keyboard lag. I can speak from experience, when typing in most apps (especially apps like colournote, AKnotepad, Polaris or anything else that allows you to take notes or write extended paragraphs/papers) there is absolutely no lag with the keyboard. Once you get the hang of it, you will be typing at a decent wpm rate and you won't tell the difference between the tf dock keyboard and any other. There is however a noticeable lag when using the stock browser but from my knowledge this is due to having flash enabled and has nothing to do with the dock/keyboard itself. Also, the knew dolphintab browser seems much better at cleaning up any lag in the browser and I feel with the net couple updates it will be a near perfect option for tab browsing. That aside, I would like to reiterate the fact that the keyboard does not lag when using things related to note taking or Polaris office. It is for the most part a browser specific issue.
As far as highlighting words and copying and pasting, that is the one thing the tf doesn't really excel at. You can still copy/cut and paste pretty much anything you want but it is just not as fluid as using a pc.
So there you have it. The transformer is pretty much a nice fit for doing basic school work BUT it is not in any means a complete replacement for having a desktop/full size laptop. There will definitely be times when you will come across things that you just have to have a pc to do, but for the most part, especially when it comes to basic stuff like note taking and writing papers, the TF is perfect.
I would also like to note that there are some apps out there that let you control a pc from your android tablet/phone such as phoneymypc or logmein. I highly suggest taking a look into those as they are great tools that you can have at your disposal with the TF and will make being away from you pc all the much easier.
Like I said, i'm pretty much in the same boat as you. I'm an MIS major and I often get annoyed at having to lug around my laptop just to take notes and do basic remedial things that something much lighter and more compact such as the TF can do wonderfully....
One more thing (wow this is a long post). You can easily find top notch netbooks (which offer the productivity of a pc with the portability of a tablet) for the same or even lesser than the TF. This was one of the things I took into consideration before I got my TF. I had to ask myself am I getting this thing solely for school, or do I want it for the other things android has to offer (entertainment wise). Overall I decided that i'd go with the TF because to me it had the best of both worlds as I am a huge android fan and have been an early adopter since the days of the G1, so the TF was a perfect fit for me...Just something to keep in mind.
boglwe said:
The keyboard lag is NOT all the time; I mostly see it in the browsers and its actually rare but when it happens, you know it. A few things to note regarding using this machine for serious work...First there are several apps that can be used for Office (documents to go, and polaris, that latter comes with the machine, but I have yet to find one that has auto-save, and that can be scary when writing those long papers. If the machine is rooted you can copy paste ANYTHING, without root, its kind of a hit and miss.
You can play music in the background, so no worries there. most music apps attach to your task bar in any ways.
The way I find myself using this device many times in in conjuction with my own desktop now or at the school library computers and have this next to me at all times. It is an amazing resource to share information point blank with peeps and youself. There is also a thread somewhere here talkin about a Onenote alternative for android using a stylus, I have yet to try one of these apps.
PDF files are easy enough, here are tons off apps to do this.
Something else to remember is that these pads are getting TONS of attention right now from all kind of devs and apps are being made DAILY, its really just a matter of time for an app to show up to do EXACTLY what you need. IMHO
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wish i'd of read this post before I spent 10 min typing mine up... I suck at making things compact, lol.
To the dude asking about rpg games. You absolutely HAVE to buy battleheart RIGHT NOW. It's not ff but it is an amazing rpg game and hands down the best you will ever find for android. (I haven't played them all so I really can't say that, but it is freaking awesome.)
Best of luck to you OP.
I'm used to use a 15" HP ProBook at school, but I do feel that my transformer can replace it...
But I guess I have an advantage as IT Professional, I run some servers at home (one of them has serveral types ov VPN on it, in case one is blocked by any firewalls), so I can access my desktops, and just use Office 2010 or Sony Vegas on a Core I7 (video editing), there is pretty much no limit for me...
But even if I was not able to make it this easy for me... I really love the Android OS, and it grows so fast in a short period of time... I wonder where it is in another 5 years... If Android goes on liek this, I think it will replace Windows (for regular users, not for companies)...
When I go back to college in 4 weeks )), I'll leave my laptop at home for the first week to see if I miss it for my everyday tasks...
I've used it for school and managing my work.
As a photographer it is needed that I have seemless integration of the sd card slot and a good device to support it, the transformer can handle it with ease!
The polaris office (or whatever its called) lets you make documents, excel sheets and powerpoint.
With a good stylus you would be able to take notes in like drawfree for example.
It handles music quite fine as it lets you multitask between apps and music.
And while Im doing all of this I can still get in touch with my friends because of the social part of the transformer that updates my status once in awhile ! ^-^
Its not a full fledged netbook but a nice replacement so far!
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Yeah, he's totally right about the apps showing up. Now... all I need is... STRATEGY RPG LIKE FINAL FANTASY TACTICS! (Who's up for making/porting one?)
Anyway, I like my TF for what I've used it for so far. Just grab one and try it, and return it if it doesn't work for you ?
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Already exists, playstation one emulator or gba emulator. They redid fft on gba.
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domin8 said:
How does this work as a laptop replacement in a school environment? Taking notes, web experience, etc. I'm looking to replace my laptop for at school.
How does it do rendering blackboard ?
Any help would be appreciated I might pick one up tomorrow with the keyboard. Is it responsive to type documents on?
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I use it for uni, and it seems to function quite well.
As a notetaking tool in lectures, it works fantastically, and it's so much better than lugging my Dell laptop around with me all day, which would just be a pain. If you've not got the dock or a bluetooth keyboard, it might be a bit of a hassle- I found that on the touch screen keyboard, hurriedly jotting down notes meant that I had to constantly backspace to correct formatting, punctuation, or spelling mistakes.
Polaris Office also tends to be a bit weird with me, though- sometimes files that I make on the transformer refuse to open using Microsoft Word on my computer, and vice versa. If you're doing a project with heavy formatting, you should probably stick to your desktop as Polaris tends to screw all that up for me.
It renders BlackBoard very quickly, and is great if you want to sneak a peek at a document that a teacher has uploaded there.
I'd say that you shouldn't use it as an all out replacement for your laptop where all school work is concerned- but as a device to take notes on, get quick snippets of information on, and access the web, it's perfect. Plus it helps that I can play Angry Birds if a lecture gets especially boring...
My semester just started again last week and I've been trying the TF (with dock) out as a netbook replacement for a week now.
I've been using freenotes to take notes in lectures and it's worked wonderfully. The built in email/gmail apps have worked wonderfully for email use and I use Dolphin for web-browsing and it's all been a real delight to use. Reads pdfs fine and I've got all my textbooks on internal storage (best thing ever).
The only annoying thing is coding on it. Doing a few Java projects this semester and as I'm still getting to terms with this language, I like to be using a full IDE for auto-correction etc. Anyway, I've been using vi via the terminal and this has been fine so far for code editing.
So yeah, after a week it's proved to be a pretty nice netbook alternative. Plus everything's nice and speedy unlike my clunky atom based netbook, plus it doesn't run hot on my lap and I've got no fans blaring constantly. Best thing about ARM from an end-user point-of-view
EDIT: I've also purchased a stylus for my TF last week, so I'm going to see how that goes for taking quick notes during lectures on my TF. Will report back if it's any good or if the keyboard is easier.
If you're looking for a more "desktop"-like experience, install Ubuntu on the internal storage. It's working wonderfully now (apart from a few small things) and you've pretty much got a full x86 laptop replacement in a nice lightweight ARM tablet.
this is why i love XDA, you guys have really answered all of my questions thoroughly! I am going to try and use that staples coupon that's floating around since it expires today and pick one up thanks so so so much guys, I plan on sticking around the transformer forums just as much as i do the atrix forums now
so it works! im glad i found this. this was my original plan to buy a tablet of some sort tablet with a dock (atrix with lapdock was my failed attempt) cuz i dont plan to carry my 17 inch laptop around. lol.
Hi im looking for a bit of advice from currents users, I start back at uni in September and was considering buying a laptop but my friend threw in the eee pad into the mix, I would like to know is the eee pad able to compete with a laptop are there apps where I can word process, use powerpoint and the real deal breaker would be if I was able to annotate by hand pdf, docs and possibly ppt files or am I asking too much from it.
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Can anyone shed some light on this
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The TF comes with Polaris Office installed.
It has word processor, spreadsheet and presentation which are, at least partially, msoffice compatible.
I've just bought Repligo Reader for navigating and annotating electronic and electrical diagrams, though I haven't had much chance to explore it yet.
You need to do some thorough googling to get an idea of whether the TF will suit you or not.
HTH.
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Hi im looking for a bit of advice from currents users, I start back at uni in September and was considering buying a laptop but my friend threw in the eee pad into the mix, I would like to know is the eee pad able to compete with a laptop are there apps where I can word process, use powerpoint and the real deal breaker would be if I was able to annotate by hand pdf, docs and possibly ppt files or am I asking too much from it.
Thanks
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As much as I like my TF and iPad, I think you would be better off with a Windows or Mac laptop. There are some good "back to school" deals this time of year.
For this specific need I'd say no... it doesn't suit your needs. Or, there are other devices suiting your needs better (notebooks). It does the job fine when used for that on the side, but it's not it's main aim.
Get a laptop, or even a netbook. The TF would be great as an adjunct to a "regular" computer, but IMO it's not yet a replacement for one.
Yep you guys basically confirmed what I was thinking, thanks for the replies im not a fan of netbooks particularly so think I will wait and possibly get a laptop they seem to crashing in price.
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Hi im looking for a bit of advice from currents users, I start back at uni in September and was considering buying a laptop but my friend threw in the eee pad into the mix, I would like to know is the eee pad able to compete with a laptop are there apps where I can word process, use powerpoint and the real deal breaker would be if I was able to annotate by hand pdf, docs and possibly ppt files or am I asking too much from it.
Thanks
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don't get why the other forumers said no but all the things that you mentioned, it's possible to do it with the ASUS transformer WITH the dock. however, maybe not up to the speed as compared to a netbook or a notebook but still, doable. if your requirement is not that big towards the heavy CPU processing part (i can only think of the powerpoint in your requirements), then i don't see why you can't consider it.
go try out a transformer from one of your friends and give it a go before committing.
I'm in a similar position to you, the transformer is great for uni, but only as an addition to a PC you already have.
Before mine went into a bottomless pit of terrible asus support I used it a lot for taking notes using polaris office etc. It's quite basic but good enough for this, and is quite nice for watching iplayer etc.
The battery life is also fantastic.
But ... If you don't have a windows laptop/desktop then I wouldn't recommend it. I use mine with a high end desktop which I use for more advanced things.
I do have a desktop at home which I would use for reports etc I am a chemistry student and I am always annotating notes and pdf diagrams this is where a tablet could possibly be better due to it being touch screen could I possibly draw molecules on my pdf essentially I would hardly need any paper and all my notes would be digital instead of hundreds of paper copies
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I do have a desktop at home which I would use for reports etc I am a chemistry student and I am always annotating notes and pdf diagrams this is where a tablet could possibly be better due to it being touch screen could I possibly draw molecules on my pdf essentially I would hardly need any paper and all my notes would be digital instead of hundreds of paper copies
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Here's a link to Repligo Reader.
I use it to notate electrical and electronic drawings, have a look and see whether you think it would do the job for you, you could always email the developers and ask about your requirements.
Spakka made a good point which I fully agree with, the TF is MUCH more convenient to use than a laptop, its battery lasts ages and it's instant on like a phone, it doesn't have to go in and out of hibernation or sleep mode like a laptop.
Downsides are the sluggish keyboard response and.....err I can't think of any others, there's even an OpenOffice document reader
A year or two from now, an Android tablet might cut it. But generally, schools are set up to accommodate PCs and grudgingly Macs. It takes a long time for institutions to integrate new technologies.
Right now, Android tabs are Internet/communications and media appliances. You can get a lot of real work done on them, but the brick walls where there's no application to address a certain need are thick, high and wide right now.
I have been wrestling with the issue of usefulness in a college situation, note taking, researching etc. It is quite a large investment and I wanted to make the right choice.
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2. Is it better than or does it replace a laptop?
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1. Do you love your tablet?
Yes, no homo.
2. Is it better than or does it replace a laptop?
Depends on what you want. I don't have a laptop so I don't have a choice. If you want something powerful to run workstation type programs, then you need a laptop. If you only want to watch movies or edit documents, a tablet would be a good idea.
1. Do you love your tablet?
Yep! first tablet (had the prime, but its the same thing basically!) and so far its working really well...may not be as fluid as ipad (my other choice) but nevertheless very versatile and gets the job done (of taking notes)
2. Is it better than or does it replace a laptop?
It can replace a laptop depending on what your using for....i had a laptop for taking notes in skool but i upgrade to my custom build desktop and got the transformer instead. Did it replace the laptop for me? yep, easy to take notes with and is half the size and weight. not to mention you can play angry birds when your bored in class. But is it better than a laptop? Maybe not in terms of multi-tasking. but its still kick a** for a portable device that last up to 10 hours in battery life.
bottom line is if the transformer suits your needs. For me, it def did.
As to "love", that is purely subjective. I do enjoy it if that helps.
As to which is better for your situation, that is going to depend purely on your needs. Not a knock on the Infinity, but if you get the dock station keyboard, that make the cost $650 to $750US. You can get a pretty decent laptop, non-apple. Although, there are plenty of apps that can handle most things people want to do, tablets, at this point, are just not as robust as a laptop with say, Windows 7.
If you're just taking notes in class, writing papers, surfing the web, maybe some research on the net, probably be fine. If you're a computer science major and need to do code, not likely.
I've owned laptops for about ten years. Have used them in the class room setting. Been using PCs for a little under twenty years. I graduated college a little thirteen years ago. I've only been using Android for about a year and half on a Evo 4G--email, IM, media, writing notes using Dos2Go, using spreed sheets in Docs2Go, games, rooted, and so forth. Only got the Infinity a few days ago myself. Despite not being well versed on the Infinity, I think I may have an decent idea.
On top of that, make sure the school doesn't have some kind of requirements in regards to the PC you may be able to use. Some may have requires because of how homework is turned in or exams are done.
The infinity (or any of the Transformer models) is great for taking notes because of the keyboard dock. The device is super thin, super light, has a keyboard dock, long battery life, completely silent and pretty damn powerful! I use my Infinity for all note-taking at work. I use an app called "Classic Notes + App Box" - it does everything! You can type in your notes, attach sketches, attach pictures, etc. You can even do stuff like look up zip codes, convert measurements, etc. Really powerful app.
And the really nice part is that it's 100% searchable! If I need to look something up in my notes, I just search for whatever I'm looking for and shows me all of the matches almost instantly. It has tons of other features and the author provides the best support that I've ever seen. Want a new feature? Let him know and if it makes sense, it will be there shortly!
Highly recommended..
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I have been wrestling with the issue of usefulness in a college situation, note taking, researching etc. It is quite a large investment and I wanted to make the right choice.
Two Questions:
1. Do you love your tablet?
2. Is it better than or does it replace a laptop?
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1. Yes I like it a lot.
2. It depends. When I'm at home I use mostly my PC or the Infinity depending on what I want to do. When I'm travelling <3 weeks I take the Infinity with me because it's light and has a good battery life.
However if I would've to travel for a longer time (+3 weeks) . I would definitely take my laptop with me but I haven't done that for over a year now so my laptop is now collecting dust which is a shame because it was quite expensive.
So I would say if you have a PC get the Infinity if not buy a good laptop.
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1.) I rely heavily on Jorte calendar to keep me headed in a straight line. I've given up on my companies outlook calendar and simply transfer meetings over to google calendar (Jorte pulls in google calendar) at work. This along makes me depend on this tablet. I don't "love" this tablet, as any similiar device would do, but I would be at a big loss with out it. I keep HDMI cables in my bag so I can watch movies on my hotel TV while traveling and when the kids are with me on the road they can watch Cars or other toons while I take care of other things.
2.) No it absolutely does not replace my laptop. Never could. But I would never expect it to. Everyones different, so if you do alot of reading on your laptop and basic web surfing it may work fine for you. Even the occasional paper being written would be ok. But for me I rarely sit down and type anything other then email and forums that is less then 5+ pages. Windows is my "get stuff done" OS. Android is more of my assistant, entertainment, makes life easier OS.
i love my tablets and have more tablets than either desktops or laptops (but not combined, lol).
tablets are better at certain things than a laptop. you can get better battery life without spending over a grand on an ultrabook. plus the portability, instant on, touch interface (i can't stand track pads, but somehow the transformer trackpad seems to work well). For portable entertainment, it's hard to beat.
that the only laptop that the tablets have replaced was my "netbook." actually an acer 12" timeline. it was far better spec-wise, but not as portable.
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So far I really like my tablet. This is kind of a nonsense question...of course we love our tablets.
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2. Is it better than or does it replace a laptop?
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Simply? No. Of course not. But it can be better in some situations like note taking, as you suggested. I'm personally planning on using this thing for note taking and simple tasks, but more powerful tasks will be done on my laptop. My suggestion is to have a laptop or desktop around to do more power-hungry tasks, but for most simple cases it should work just fine.
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It is quite a large investment and I wanted to make the right choice.
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2. Is it better than or does it replace a laptop?
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1. Ummm...I like my tablet
2. In no way does it replace a notebook
$500.00 can buy a pretty decent notebook.
My last notebook has the AMD Vision quad core APU with 16 GB of RAM.
It handles Photoslop CS5, MAYA and PoserPro 2012 like a champ.
When Android tablets are able to run desktop graphics 3D rendering stuff like these they will no longer be toys for the gadgeteer!
1) Yes
2) As others have said, its highly dependent on both what your needs are and how much you're willing to tinker with things to get it doing what you want. Simple web browsing and lightweight document editing? Sure. Photo editing or software development? Maybe. Anything more than that? Probably not.
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1.) I rely heavily on Jorte calendar to keep me headed in a straight line. I've given up on my companies outlook calendar and simply transfer meetings over to google calendar (Jorte pulls in google calendar) at work. This along makes me depend on this tablet. I don't "love" this tablet, as any similiar device would do, but I would be at a big loss with out it. I keep HDMI cables in my bag so I can watch movies on my hotel TV while traveling and when the kids are with me on the road they can watch Cars or other toons while I take care of other things.
2.) No it absolutely does not replace my laptop. Never could. But I would never expect it to. Everyones different, so if you do alot of reading on your laptop and basic web surfing it may work fine for you. Even the occasional paper being written would be ok. But for me I rarely sit down and type anything other then email and forums that is less then 5+ pages. Windows is my "get stuff done" OS. Android is more of my assistant, entertainment, makes life easier OS.
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This ^^ pretty much sums up my usage, except I use Touch Calendar and Work Calendar (hospital shifts). The 700 is a great appeaser as far a small kids (I have a 4- and a 2-year-old) go.
1. Yes i love my tablet
2. Yes and no it will all depend on the person and your personal usage. I find no need whatsoever to have a big and bulky laptop when i can have my Tab with me when i need to be mobile. When I need a lil more power I use my gaming rig back in my dorm
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I was planning to replace my laptop; but the inability to connect to monitor over DVI puts a crimp in my plans. All my monitors are DVI only, and the TF700 won't work with any of them using the DVI/HDMI adapter. It's a pain to code on the 10" screen.
I got this thing 2 days now and I love it. It is a replacement for my old laptop wich I used to edit text and stuff like that. surf a little. And watching movies with that old thing was a no go anyway. Now with this I can even use AirPlay to play stuff on my TV or something else. I love it
So to 1 a defenite YES.
And to 2, for me it is a yes. But I use my desktop for the heavy stuff. like gaming and all that crap.
And to have a touchscreen and a keyboard, I never did stuff this fast and nice. I love it. And the batterylife on this is 4 times longer then my old lappy.
1. This is my first tablet and so far I really like it. It is very light which makes it easy to bring to class and you are able to do most of your class work with it.
2. Currently, I do not think it will replace a laptop. There are numerous reasons as to why and I am sure people before me have mentioned it. But if you have a tablet and laptop, you could look into RDP (Remote desktop) to access your desktop through your tablet. There are a bit of issues with it, but it gets the job done (depending on what you do)
All in all, 500 dollars is a big investment and not to mention that you will probably buy accessories too. I would really determine what you will be doing at school and in your leisure time. After, weigh each pro and con for each device and go from there. I hope this helps
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I am wondering if the transformer pad can replace an ultrabook, since my candidates are either transformer or an ultrabook. What I mean by replace is, will it run software like Office without issues?
I have never had a tablet before, so I do not know what kind of issues I might come over, so those with tablets (with keyboard?): What should I know about a tablet before buying one? Do you prefer your tablet with keyboard to do office tasks or do you prefer laptop?
Thanks in advance!
I have the keyboard but don't type with more than two fingers.
I do miss a mouse.
The keyboard has a USB port in addition to sd card reader but I've sent off for a Bluetooth mouse.
I work mostly in Excel spreadsheets & with a mouse I'm good to go.
Tablet is better. Better battery life and less weight (IMHO)
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I have a TF700T with Dock Keyboard and a UX31E ultrabook. The short answer is no my TF700T can not replace my UX31E. However with that said the amount of time spent using my UX31E has decreased dramatically for such things as internet content reading, email reading as well as answering, simple spreadsheet creation/updating, simple word document creation/updating, weather checking and youtube video watching. When any of these tasks get a bit more complicated out comes my UX31E. From a battery length the TF700T with dock keyboard way way out lasts my UX31E. I keep both devices in my bed side night stand top drawer for ready use with both being charged over night. During the day my TF700T with dock is in our kitchen waiting for my use, my UX31E is in the night stand awaiting those times I need it. Another difference at least for me is the inability of the TF700T to position two different spreadsheets (or ducuments) side by side for viewing/editing/comparing/copying. Another difference is the price which for me amounted to around $500.
It still depends what exactly you are doing. If you are doing just more basic spreadsheets and word documents that tablet works great. If you are working with documents that are more highly formatted though, I would go with the ultra book. For my use as a student, the 700 with a doc is prefect for me. If I ever need to do more heavy work while at school I just use a program like splashtop to remote control my computer at home. Hope that helps!
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I am wondering if the transformer pad can replace an ultrabook, since my candidates are either transformer or an ultrabook. What I mean by replace is, will it run software like Office without issues?
I have never had a tablet before, so I do not know what kind of issues I might come over, so those with tablets (with keyboard?): What should I know about a tablet before buying one? Do you prefer your tablet with keyboard to do office tasks or do you prefer laptop?
Thanks in advance!
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You'll get Polaris office with the Infinity...
You have to remember Android is not windows...
A notebook is always better for typing or real office tasks.
Tablets can be difficult for things like printing documents over a network.
Reading some web based PDFs etc.
I wouldn't try to use a tablet for any intense office tasks.
If and when Microsoft Office comes to android this fall....omgwtfbbqsauuuuuuuce <3
Thanks for replying
Making your answers short: it may be able to replace the ultrabook depending on my use, but might cause difficulties with compatibility with other office software. Thus, the ultrabook is the best choice, am I correct?
Sari95 said:
Thanks for replying
Making your answers short: it may be able to replace the ultrabook depending on my use, but might cause difficulties with compatibility with other office software. Thus, the ultrabook is the best choice, am I correct?
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Yes
I have owned an Asus UX31e ultrabook since it's release in Canada. I just picked up a tf700 on Friday and although it is a very powerful/capable device it will never replace the ux31 or my desktop.
It's really dependant on your needs.
As always, it depends on your needs. If you only need to watch movies, browse the internet, play butthurt birds and simple games, then a tablet is the best deal. If you need to convert/encode videos, play more games (>gaming >on a laptop), run specific windows only programs or do 1337 haxx0rz, then an ultrabook would be what you want.
For me, I would say No Way. Don't forget, Android is an OS designed for a mobile phone. When trying to be serious about using a tablet you will constantly be reminded you are working on a big phone. Even the browser and email experience is kind of frustrating at times.
As a tablet however, the TF700 is a great choice for a lot of reasons.
Hi guys,
I have been looking around for a decent tablet that i can use for school and home. I know netbooks, ultrabooks and laptops are good for school but im looking for something smaller and more portable since im always on the go and i hate carrying a heavy laptop.
I mainly need something that can:
1. take notes (.doc, pdf files, presentations) (will definitely get the dock with the transformer if i get some decent feedback about the asus)
2. fast browser (need for school sites such as blackboard) (adobe flash support)
3. fast speed, since i'm always on the go i need something i can turn on, do my work and move on to next class.
4. Decent battery (~7-8 hours)
Do you think asus transformer infinity tf700t is right for me? or are there any other tablets (small portable devices) that may help me more.
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also are there any problems that you are experiencing that might be a deal breaker.
Order one...
...from Amazon keep all the original packing.
Test drive for perhaps a week.
Keep if you like.
Return if you dislike.
* Also get some kind of cheap protection for the Infinity like a slip cover.
I like my tablet even though I really have no valid use for it.
Tried the Acer A700 before the Infinity liked it a lot...yet it had some real problems.
The Infinity isn't exactly a tablet that excels in note taking; it's arguably the best Android tab for content consumption around, but not content creation and productivity.. Since note taking appears to be a significant requirement for you, why not consider the new Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet? The Note 10.1 has an active digitizer built into it for writing and drawing on levels far superior to the Infinity and all other tablets without the built in digitizer.
In my opinion, the very best option will probably be (later, when released) a Windows Surface tablet with the active digitizer, full office suite, One Note, Journal, etc. For now, the Note 10.1 is the only game in town for the best note taking experience at its class and price point that still leaves room for a lot of the leisure activities we've come to love on our Android and iOS portables like surfing, video watching, games, etc.
I have both tablets (to eval) and the Infinity has a better display, but can't touch the Note 10.1 for note taking. Capacitive stylus writing seriously sucks compared to the active digitizer offerings. Writing with a capacitive stylus is akin to writing with a thick marker, brush, or crayon. I take lots of notes in meetings and HATE trying to write with a capacitive stylus or trying to type and quickly edit notes on the fly.
The Note 10.1 is plenty fast as well and has some stuff in it to sweeten the deal too like the IR remote with Peel bundle to be an interactive universal remote. The multitasking functions weren't all that useful to me on it as things stand currently since it limits you to apps that Samsung has chosen.
All this said and I still decided that I was keeping my Infinity because my primary requirement for my tablet was leisure stuff. I'm getting a Windows Surface Pro or competing Windows 8 slate for my productivity requirements in maybe 6 months. My Note 10.1 has to go back because I can't justify keeping two tablets even though it is really tempting.
In any case, buy it and use the return policy if you don't like it. For what you want to do, it sounds like a perfect fit.
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technewbie said:
Hi guys,
I have been looking around for a decent tablet that i can use for school and home. I know netbooks, ultrabooks and laptops are good for school but im looking for something smaller and more portable since im always on the go and i hate carrying a heavy laptop.
I mainly need something that can:
1. take notes (.doc, pdf files, presentations) (will definitely get the dock with the transformer if i get some decent feedback about the asus)
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Works for me -- although it has been a fair while since I was a student -- although I must be honest and mention too that it heavily depends on the application you use for opening these kinds of files. I work in a hospital, have a lot of PDFs to read (articles, clinical reviews, blablabla) and that works really well. Word-format documents are good, but Excel-format documents I can only open and inspect -- the mostly complex formulas we use are not supported by any Android application I know of (SUGGESTIONS WELCOME!), so when I change a value, it only changes the value in that cell and not the end result of a formula referencing it somewhere else. Which is crap.
2. fast browser (need for school sites such as blackboard) (adobe flash support)
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As in the above, the browser provides Flash support, not the device, therefore this shouldn't be a factor in deciding which Android device to get (although the iDevices do not provide Flash support at all, so you do not have any real alternative, now, do you? )
3. fast speed, since i'm always on the go i need something i can turn on, do my work and move on to next class.
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The TF700 is instant on, instant off, provided, of course, you do not shut it off yourself.
4. Decent battery (~7-8 hours)
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I get 5 to 6 hours of screen-on hardy work time. When I do not touch the device at all, it goes on for about two days. So somewhere in between, depending on usage scenario. You should make it through a day of college or laboratory work. I travel to work in 2-2.5 hours, run a shift, then get back with the same commute time. I've never run dry on the go, but again this depends on your usage.
Do you think asus transformer infinity tf700t is right for me? or are there any other tablets (small portable devices) that may help me more.
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also are there any problems that you are experiencing that might be a deal breaker.
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Only you can decide if this will work for you. The Note 10.1 would be a contestant on paper specifications, but the S Pen has mixed user reviews -- some rave, some hardly ever use it. As I said, Apple products do not make your list due to lack of Flash support. The Iconia A700 is beat as well, but as already said, it has some REAL issues (i.e., probably-hardware-related issues).
I loved the TF700 when I got it (two weeks before retail), even with all its quirks and shortcomings. It has been patched up nicely with .26 and I suspect we will get some more love very soon in the sense of a JB update. That should eliminate some minor issues we sometimes still encounter. I have no hesitation to recommend the TF700 to anyone really in need of that HD screen, the charging keyboard dock and the removable storage options (those are the three main selling points in my personal view).
Wish you the best of luck, and do drop by when you decided to get the TF700, or if you didn't, and in both cases please let us know why -- you help out others in the same position as you are now. Thank you!
ashuras said:
The Infinity isn't exactly a tablet that excels in note taking; it's arguably the best Android tab for content consumption around, but not content creation and productivity.. Since note taking appears to be a significant requirement for you, why not consider the new Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet? The Note 10.1 has an active digitizer built into it for writing and drawing on levels far superior to the Infinity and all other tablets without the built in digitizer.
In my opinion, the very best option will probably be (later, when released) a Windows Surface tablet with the active digitizer, full office suite, One Note, Journal, etc. For now, the Note 10.1 is the only game in town for the best note taking experience at its class and price point that still leaves room for a lot of the leisure activities we've come to love on our Android and iOS portables like surfing, video watching, games, etc.
I have both tablets (to eval) and the Infinity has a better display, but can't touch the Note 10.1 for note taking. Capacitive stylus writing seriously sucks compared to the active digitizer offerings. Writing with a capacitive stylus is akin to writing with a thick marker, brush, or crayon. I take lots of notes in meetings and HATE trying to write with a capacitive stylus or trying to type and quickly edit notes on the fly.
The Note 10.1 is plenty fast as well and has some stuff in it to sweeten the deal too like the IR remote with Peel bundle to be an interactive universal remote. The multitasking functions weren't all that useful to me on it as things stand currently since it limits you to apps that Samsung has chosen.
All this said and I still decided that I was keeping my Infinity because my primary requirement for my tablet was leisure stuff. I'm getting a Windows Surface Pro or competing Windows 8 slate for my productivity requirements in maybe 6 months. My Note 10.1 has to go back because I can't justify keeping two tablets even though it is really tempting.
In any case, buy it and use the return policy if you don't like it. For what you want to do, it sounds like a perfect fit.
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thanks for the great tip..
i have looked at the windows surface pro (which comes out later in oct 26) and the samsung galaxy note 10.1 (the one that just came out)
I do very much like the samsung galaxy note 10.1 with the multi-tasking feature, stylus and note-taking but the lack of a proper dock concerns me a bit (i know i can get a bluetooth keyboard but its not the same as the transformer tf700)
as for the windows surface, i can wait for it to come out but i want to try something new such as android and see how i like that.
But following your tips i think what i will do is buy the asus transformer and try it for few days and see if it suits my line of work, if not i will try to the samsung galaxy note 10.1, and if i dislike both ill but the windows surface later on.
thank you
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MartyHulskemper said:
Works for me -- although it has been a fair while since I was a student -- although I must be honest and mention too that it heavily depends on the application you use for opening these kinds of files. I work in a hospital, have a lot of PDFs to read (articles, clinical reviews, blablabla) and that works really well. Word-format documents are good, but Excel-format documents I can only open and inspect -- the mostly complex formulas we use are not supported by any Android application I know of (SUGGESTIONS WELCOME!), so when I change a value, it only changes the value in that cell and not the end result of a formula referencing it somewhere else. Which is crap.
As in the above, the browser provides Flash support, not the device, therefore this shouldn't be a factor in deciding which Android device to get (although the iDevices do not provide Flash support at all, so you do not have any real alternative, now, do you? )
The TF700 is instant on, instant off, provided, of course, you do not shut it off yourself.
I get 5 to 6 hours of screen-on hardy work time. When I do not touch the device at all, it goes on for about two days. So somewhere in between, depending on usage scenario. You should make it through a day of college or laboratory work. I travel to work in 2-2.5 hours, run a shift, then get back with the same commute time. I've never run dry on the go, but again this depends on your usage.
Only you can decide if this will work for you. The Note 10.1 would be a contestant on paper specifications, but the S Pen has mixed user reviews -- some rave, some hardly ever use it. As I said, Apple products do not make your list due to lack of Flash support. The Iconia A700 is beat as well, but as already said, it has some REAL issues (i.e., probably-hardware-related issues).
I loved the TF700 when I got it (two weeks before retail), even with all its quirks and shortcomings. It has been patched up nicely with .26 and I suspect we will get some more love very soon in the sense of a JB update. That should eliminate some minor issues we sometimes still encounter. I have no hesitation to recommend the TF700 to anyone really in need of that HD screen, the charging keyboard dock and the removable storage options (those are the three main selling points in my personal view).
Wish you the best of luck, and do drop by when you decided to get the TF700, or if you didn't, and in both cases please let us know why -- you help out others in the same position as you are now. Thank you!
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thank you for your great tips too [im new to xda but i love the community already, everyone's very helpful and willing to answer questions)
I will try out both samsung galaxy note 10.1 and asus transformer tf700t and see which one best suits me and probably post a quick post for my pros and cons as a student of both devices, which may help others in my position like you said
MartyHulskemper said:
...but Excel-format documents I can only open and inspect -- the mostly complex formulas we use are not supported by any Android application I know of (SUGGESTIONS WELCOME!), so when I change a value, it only changes the value in that cell and not the end result of a formula referencing it somewhere else. Which is crap.
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Suggestion for your spreadsheets, try Softmaker. Their android office suite is in final beta now and will likely be a paid app when released. I have been a fan (and regular user) of their office suite since my Jornada 720. I use it on my Windows, Linux, usb stick and my tf700.
btw, I love the tf700. If you're used to taking notes on a laptop, the 700 will fit right in for you.