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How does this work as a laptop replacement in a school environment? Taking notes, web experience, etc. I'm looking to replace my laptop for at school.
How does it do rendering blackboard ?
Any help would be appreciated I might pick one up tomorrow with the keyboard. Is it responsive to type documents on?
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As a direct laptop/desktop replacement, I do not believe it will do that. However, if you are looking for something that is light, takes notes with a stylus, web surfing, movies, music, etc... Then it would be perfect. I am a college student, and have used an iPad and now this for school, and it fits perfectly into my daily life.
With the keyboard dock, this thing would seriously be a netbook type device, so typing on one I would not know. I use the Transformer by itself.
Hmmmm, I have found the best solution for my studies (masters in education) was a touchscreen laptop like the fujitsu lifebook using OneNote. I have the keyboard dock for the transformer and I simply love it. I am currently forcing myself to use this instead of my lifebook simply to see the abilities of this in the classroom. This machine falls a bit short of being the perfect companion, thats pretty good. No OneNOTE, but with printershare that makes up for it a bit.
The lightness of it is huge ofcourse, its sturdy as well. Internet is less cumberson than on a windows based machine. There are several apps that can be used for office, or you could use google Docs. Also, once rooted, you can download any file type and with the USB ports on the dock you will be able to move files at your whim.
ON THE OTHER HAND... (And this point just came to me as I was typing this) I have not used my laptop since I purchased this machine a few weeks ago and currently about to finish my last class. So maybe it is a good solution.
Give me sme real world applications (how you want to use it) and maybe I can give you some suggestions.
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boglwe said:
Hmmmm, I have found the best solution for my studies (masters in education) was a touchscreen laptop like the fujitsu lifebook using OneNote. I have the keyboard dock for the transformer and I simply love it. I am currently forcing myself to use this instead of my lifebook simply to see the abilities of this in the classroom. This machine falls a bit short of being the perfect companion, thats pretty good. No OneNOTE, but with printershare that makes up for it a bit.
The lightness of it is huge ofcourse, its sturdy as well. Internet is less cumberson than on a windows based machine. There are several apps that can be used for office, or you could use google Docs. Also, once rooted, you can download any file type and with the USB ports on the dock you will be able to move files at your whim.
ON THE OTHER HAND... (And this point just came to me as I was typing this) I have not used my laptop since I purchased this machine a few weeks ago and currently about to finish my last class. So maybe it is a good solution.
Give me sme real world applications (how you want to use it) and maybe I can give you some suggestions.
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thanks in advance you are really helping me out. Well some apps i'd like to use would be:
-an office-like application to edit/compose word docs or essays.
-view pdf files
-i have used evernote in the past, but i also like using powerpoint to take notes in the notes pane under slides....(i think with google docs i can toggle speaker notes which may solve this issue)
-another thing on taking notes, can u insert bulleted lists/ numbered lists/ indents to keep notes organized on any notetaking software for the transformer?
-as far as music goes, how does it handle multitasking with music. FOr example, playing audio in the background while i study.
-ease of copying/pasting.
I am thinking it may just suffice and have that 'wow' factor too. I do have a desktop at home, so for anything real intensive i am sure i could use that (which i have been neglecting lately).
Im familiar with rooting/flashing devices as i've come from a captivate and now use a atrix. I feel like im rambling, but the more i type the more it sounds like a viable solution for taking notes in class.
one last thing, i have seen a few threads about some keyboard lag...is this a serious issue? is there a fix? I saw that there are several iterations of the keyboard, is there one i should try and get when i go shopping over others?
i just dont want to have to wait for the keyboard to catch up if i'm taking notes in evernote.
I think i may just pick it up tomorrow and try it out for a few weeks since school isnt until august 29th...but i could use any insight on it i could get!
August 29th... semester system?
I've not used it to take notes yet (summer research), but for school life, entertainment-wise, since I've had it, I haven't used my laptop much for anything other than the occasional Netflix (and I've stopped since I finished BSG ).
I'm using my laptop right now to play some game, but really, the TF has almost replaced everything I need it. The typing lag does kind of suck so if you're some kind of student with a major that will require lots of typing..
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August 29th... semester system?
I've not used it to take notes yet (summer research), but for school life, entertainment-wise, since I've had it, I haven't used my laptop much for anything other than the occasional Netflix (and I've stopped since I finished BSG ).
I'm using my laptop right now to play some game, but really, the TF has almost replaced everything I need it. The typing lag does kind of suck so if you're some kind of student with a major that will require lots of typing..
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how bad is the typing lag? i dont do a TON of typing, but i am taking an online class so i may need to type into a forum style system box to submit.
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i see that it is only an issue with SOME apps? have you used thinkfree office?
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how bad is the typing lag? i dont do a TON of typing, but i am taking an online class so i may need to type into a forum style system box to submit.
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It is not too bad but not like iPad fast either,it lags but catches up easily on everything you type.
It catches up for short typing sessions. When I typed up a document for my parents, it was really noticeable in a bad way though.
The keyboard lag is NOT all the time; I mostly see it in the browsers and its actually rare but when it happens, you know it. A few things to note regarding using this machine for serious work...First there are several apps that can be used for Office (documents to go, and polaris, that latter comes with the machine, but I have yet to find one that has auto-save, and that can be scary when writing those long papers. If the machine is rooted you can copy paste ANYTHING, without root, its kind of a hit and miss.
You can play music in the background, so no worries there. most music apps attach to your task bar in any ways.
The way I find myself using this device many times in in conjuction with my own desktop now or at the school library computers and have this next to me at all times. It is an amazing resource to share information point blank with peeps and youself. There is also a thread somewhere here talkin about a Onenote alternative for android using a stylus, I have yet to try one of these apps.
PDF files are easy enough, here are tons off apps to do this.
Something else to remember is that these pads are getting TONS of attention right now from all kind of devs and apps are being made DAILY, its really just a matter of time for an app to show up to do EXACTLY what you need. IMHO
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Yeah, he's totally right about the apps showing up. Now... all I need is... STRATEGY RPG LIKE FINAL FANTASY TACTICS! (Who's up for making/porting one?)
Anyway, I like my TF for what I've used it for so far. Just grab one and try it, and return it if it doesn't work for you ?
I'm pretty much in the same boat as you bud. I bought the TF foreseeing that I would hopefully be able to us it for school and I was very pleased with my decision in the end.
To answer your questions...
It is a very viable (and in most case preferred) option to do basic school work on, especially simple stuff like note taking and editing documents. The included office app (Polaris) is actually a very nice feature and includes just about everything you would need to type an essay such as indentations, points/dots/whatever they are (as you were looking for), also includes numbering, double spacing, different font sizes and colors. Now it's not a full Microsoft Office replacement, but it definitely has all the basic features you'd be looking for.
You can also find a handful of microsoft office editors in the Android market. I haven't personally tested any of them yet (but will use them when school comes around) however from my knowledge they seem capable of editing word, powerpoint and couple other office applications--which is good enough for me.
To address the keyboard lag. I can speak from experience, when typing in most apps (especially apps like colournote, AKnotepad, Polaris or anything else that allows you to take notes or write extended paragraphs/papers) there is absolutely no lag with the keyboard. Once you get the hang of it, you will be typing at a decent wpm rate and you won't tell the difference between the tf dock keyboard and any other. There is however a noticeable lag when using the stock browser but from my knowledge this is due to having flash enabled and has nothing to do with the dock/keyboard itself. Also, the knew dolphintab browser seems much better at cleaning up any lag in the browser and I feel with the net couple updates it will be a near perfect option for tab browsing. That aside, I would like to reiterate the fact that the keyboard does not lag when using things related to note taking or Polaris office. It is for the most part a browser specific issue.
As far as highlighting words and copying and pasting, that is the one thing the tf doesn't really excel at. You can still copy/cut and paste pretty much anything you want but it is just not as fluid as using a pc.
So there you have it. The transformer is pretty much a nice fit for doing basic school work BUT it is not in any means a complete replacement for having a desktop/full size laptop. There will definitely be times when you will come across things that you just have to have a pc to do, but for the most part, especially when it comes to basic stuff like note taking and writing papers, the TF is perfect.
I would also like to note that there are some apps out there that let you control a pc from your android tablet/phone such as phoneymypc or logmein. I highly suggest taking a look into those as they are great tools that you can have at your disposal with the TF and will make being away from you pc all the much easier.
Like I said, i'm pretty much in the same boat as you. I'm an MIS major and I often get annoyed at having to lug around my laptop just to take notes and do basic remedial things that something much lighter and more compact such as the TF can do wonderfully....
One more thing (wow this is a long post). You can easily find top notch netbooks (which offer the productivity of a pc with the portability of a tablet) for the same or even lesser than the TF. This was one of the things I took into consideration before I got my TF. I had to ask myself am I getting this thing solely for school, or do I want it for the other things android has to offer (entertainment wise). Overall I decided that i'd go with the TF because to me it had the best of both worlds as I am a huge android fan and have been an early adopter since the days of the G1, so the TF was a perfect fit for me...Just something to keep in mind.
boglwe said:
The keyboard lag is NOT all the time; I mostly see it in the browsers and its actually rare but when it happens, you know it. A few things to note regarding using this machine for serious work...First there are several apps that can be used for Office (documents to go, and polaris, that latter comes with the machine, but I have yet to find one that has auto-save, and that can be scary when writing those long papers. If the machine is rooted you can copy paste ANYTHING, without root, its kind of a hit and miss.
You can play music in the background, so no worries there. most music apps attach to your task bar in any ways.
The way I find myself using this device many times in in conjuction with my own desktop now or at the school library computers and have this next to me at all times. It is an amazing resource to share information point blank with peeps and youself. There is also a thread somewhere here talkin about a Onenote alternative for android using a stylus, I have yet to try one of these apps.
PDF files are easy enough, here are tons off apps to do this.
Something else to remember is that these pads are getting TONS of attention right now from all kind of devs and apps are being made DAILY, its really just a matter of time for an app to show up to do EXACTLY what you need. IMHO
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wish i'd of read this post before I spent 10 min typing mine up... I suck at making things compact, lol.
To the dude asking about rpg games. You absolutely HAVE to buy battleheart RIGHT NOW. It's not ff but it is an amazing rpg game and hands down the best you will ever find for android. (I haven't played them all so I really can't say that, but it is freaking awesome.)
Best of luck to you OP.
I'm used to use a 15" HP ProBook at school, but I do feel that my transformer can replace it...
But I guess I have an advantage as IT Professional, I run some servers at home (one of them has serveral types ov VPN on it, in case one is blocked by any firewalls), so I can access my desktops, and just use Office 2010 or Sony Vegas on a Core I7 (video editing), there is pretty much no limit for me...
But even if I was not able to make it this easy for me... I really love the Android OS, and it grows so fast in a short period of time... I wonder where it is in another 5 years... If Android goes on liek this, I think it will replace Windows (for regular users, not for companies)...
When I go back to college in 4 weeks )), I'll leave my laptop at home for the first week to see if I miss it for my everyday tasks...
I've used it for school and managing my work.
As a photographer it is needed that I have seemless integration of the sd card slot and a good device to support it, the transformer can handle it with ease!
The polaris office (or whatever its called) lets you make documents, excel sheets and powerpoint.
With a good stylus you would be able to take notes in like drawfree for example.
It handles music quite fine as it lets you multitask between apps and music.
And while Im doing all of this I can still get in touch with my friends because of the social part of the transformer that updates my status once in awhile ! ^-^
Its not a full fledged netbook but a nice replacement so far!
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Yeah, he's totally right about the apps showing up. Now... all I need is... STRATEGY RPG LIKE FINAL FANTASY TACTICS! (Who's up for making/porting one?)
Anyway, I like my TF for what I've used it for so far. Just grab one and try it, and return it if it doesn't work for you ?
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Already exists, playstation one emulator or gba emulator. They redid fft on gba.
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domin8 said:
How does this work as a laptop replacement in a school environment? Taking notes, web experience, etc. I'm looking to replace my laptop for at school.
How does it do rendering blackboard ?
Any help would be appreciated I might pick one up tomorrow with the keyboard. Is it responsive to type documents on?
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I use it for uni, and it seems to function quite well.
As a notetaking tool in lectures, it works fantastically, and it's so much better than lugging my Dell laptop around with me all day, which would just be a pain. If you've not got the dock or a bluetooth keyboard, it might be a bit of a hassle- I found that on the touch screen keyboard, hurriedly jotting down notes meant that I had to constantly backspace to correct formatting, punctuation, or spelling mistakes.
Polaris Office also tends to be a bit weird with me, though- sometimes files that I make on the transformer refuse to open using Microsoft Word on my computer, and vice versa. If you're doing a project with heavy formatting, you should probably stick to your desktop as Polaris tends to screw all that up for me.
It renders BlackBoard very quickly, and is great if you want to sneak a peek at a document that a teacher has uploaded there.
I'd say that you shouldn't use it as an all out replacement for your laptop where all school work is concerned- but as a device to take notes on, get quick snippets of information on, and access the web, it's perfect. Plus it helps that I can play Angry Birds if a lecture gets especially boring...
My semester just started again last week and I've been trying the TF (with dock) out as a netbook replacement for a week now.
I've been using freenotes to take notes in lectures and it's worked wonderfully. The built in email/gmail apps have worked wonderfully for email use and I use Dolphin for web-browsing and it's all been a real delight to use. Reads pdfs fine and I've got all my textbooks on internal storage (best thing ever).
The only annoying thing is coding on it. Doing a few Java projects this semester and as I'm still getting to terms with this language, I like to be using a full IDE for auto-correction etc. Anyway, I've been using vi via the terminal and this has been fine so far for code editing.
So yeah, after a week it's proved to be a pretty nice netbook alternative. Plus everything's nice and speedy unlike my clunky atom based netbook, plus it doesn't run hot on my lap and I've got no fans blaring constantly. Best thing about ARM from an end-user point-of-view
EDIT: I've also purchased a stylus for my TF last week, so I'm going to see how that goes for taking quick notes during lectures on my TF. Will report back if it's any good or if the keyboard is easier.
If you're looking for a more "desktop"-like experience, install Ubuntu on the internal storage. It's working wonderfully now (apart from a few small things) and you've pretty much got a full x86 laptop replacement in a nice lightweight ARM tablet.
this is why i love XDA, you guys have really answered all of my questions thoroughly! I am going to try and use that staples coupon that's floating around since it expires today and pick one up thanks so so so much guys, I plan on sticking around the transformer forums just as much as i do the atrix forums now
so it works! im glad i found this. this was my original plan to buy a tablet of some sort tablet with a dock (atrix with lapdock was my failed attempt) cuz i dont plan to carry my 17 inch laptop around. lol.
|I think I have seen something that can now replace my laptop and tablet into one complete package.
I use my laptop to surf, word process, email, listen to music and play movies.
my tab is for games, movies and music and web browsing.
now the transformer prime seems to be a convergence device for me, provided 'docs to go' is any good?
I 've never used it before. I don't do stuff like that on my phone. I don't do it on my tablet cos I've got my laptop. so provided the docs to go is 'good to go' then this is for me. it'll have better res than my laptop and it'll do everything I want, as long as I can word process.
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anyone who uses docs to go on the current transformer. what's it like? what's your experience of word processing on the tablet?
Erm, I've been typing personal statements on my tablet lately, and I gotta say, it's mostly like how it is on my laptop (I use open-office, starting to learn to LaTeX). With Polaris, the office app that comes with the TF, I gotta say, it's more or less just a normal word processor with the one exception of the lack of spell check. I've gotten used to seeing the red lines if I have typo's so that would be a big plus if they had it. Otherwise, nothing wrong with typing on my TF. (By the way, anyone recommend a different office app, which is as good as Polaris, but with an auto-spell check thing?)
Ooo, also, copying and pasting is kind of a hassle because you gotta long click and etc.
TL;DR: Tablet word processor (Polaris) = same as laptop, with exception of copy and paste, and spell check.
thanks for that. It sounds what I'm looking for. I don't do anything complex on laptop. Its just my work a day tool. I do all my main editing, typesetting etc on my main machine. The laptop is purely for me to work when I'm not in the office and I need to do some more writing.
this sounds good. Can the built in processor handle doc format? I assume that would be a no which is why docs to go would be what I'd have to consider.
anyone who's used docs to go on the TF able to chime in?
I just sold my Transformer today, but I do have Docs to Go. It is pretty fair. I find the user interface the most lacking, but I might be spoiled by a PC.
Although Asus ships with Polaris Office. I've used it in a pinch, but Docs to Go is much better. I also prefer the FAOTD from Amazon better as well (Office Suite 5 Pro).
office suit 5 sounds not bad either. I'll do some more reading. like I say, I just want to type already created docs for word.
anything I create fresh will just have basic layout anway. this is sounding pretty good.
a convergence device, capable of doing all the multi media, AND be used for work purposes, presentation work as well. I LIKE
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I just sold my Transformer today, but I do have Docs to Go. It is pretty fair. I find the user interface the most lacking, but I might be spoiled by a PC.
Although Asus ships with Polaris Office. I've used it in a pinch, but Docs to Go is much better. I also prefer the FAOTD from Amazon better as well (Office Suite 5 Pro).
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I got office pro when it was free on amazon the other day...quite nice actually.
BTW....what did you get for your TF? I'm thinking its time to sell mine and its dock because I'm going back to my laptop which has no issues with HD video
out of interest what issues did you have with HD vide on the tablet? was this using a native player or an app from the market?
It won't play some encoding. I have a ton of mkv with ac3 encoding that just wont play.
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BTW....what did you get for your TF?
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$350 for the TF and a nice carbon fiber case. But it was a B60 model which seems to sell better. The person buying it said he was looking everywhere for this version and none of the other on CL for weeks were the rootable ones.
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It won't play some encoding. I have a ton of mkv with ac3 encoding that just wont play.
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thanks. well that's all right then, cos I don't use MKV files on tablets or my phone.
I stick to flv, avi (with xvid codec) and mp4. so I should be okay then.
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$350 for the TF and a nice carbon fiber case. But it was a B60 model which seems to sell better. The person buying it said he was looking everywhere for this version and none of the other on CL for weeks were the rootable ones.
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Thanks....good to know. I have a B40 with a dock so I should be okay then
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Polaris Office works fine with MS Office files I've tried, onoy gripe I have is it can't read my Open/Libre Office files!
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I use open-office, starting to learn to LaTeX
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Using a Debian chroot you can run LaTeX on your TF. TeXLive might be impossible though, never tried it for Linux/ARM.
I am happily using my TF to replace my netbook and workstation, which replaced my laptop; and it has almost replaced my new quadcore desktop. Should note that I don't care about office suites though, lol. I use other tools for that.
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Hmmm, interesting.. I have some different app I use to run OpenOffice documents. Not on tablet atm so I can't check .
To answer the OP's original question, yes the transformer+dock can replace your laptop GIVEN that you do not try to use it like a laptop.
3 things the OP needs to know.
(1) The transformer ain't no laptop.
(2) Android ain't no windows.
(3) Android ain't no mac OS either.
If you try to use the transformer like a laptop, you will be vastly disappointed. It's like buying a motorcycle and then try to use it like a car. You will complain about the cold weather, the lack of storage space (like the trunk), the lack of a windshield, the air blowing into your face, etc. People don't buy motorcycles and try to use it like a car. Why in the world would you buy a laptop-tablet hybrid and try to use it like a laptop?
I have not touched my laptop for 5 months now. I've found that the transformer has completely replaced my laptop plus more. I can do things with my transformer that I previously could not do with my laptop. Here are just a few things that I need to do with my transformer that I used to do on my laptop.
-Check emails.
-Type reports.
-Create and give presentations.
-Play games.
-Skype.
-Surf.
-Read pdfs.
-Much much more!
Here are some things that I can now do with the TF that I never could have done with a laptop.
-Go on the entire day without even thinking about recharging.
-Carry around just the tablet part in the field for aci and astm references.
-Take hand written notes.
-View autocad drawings on-the-go.
-Much much more.
The point is if you're going to try to use the tablet like a laptop, you will be disappointed. The tablet is an entirely new thing. You need to treat it like a new thing.
Will I do heavy duty things like autocad drawings on my tablet? Probably not. That's what my PC is for.
Now, the part where the transformer is superior to all other tablets. It is not a coincidence that all ipad users I know carry around their ipads for fun and games and their clunky laptops for real work. I only carry around my transformer+dock for everything.
Just the other day, I saw a guy sitting across the room typing on his laptop. Now, this was one of the guys who for months kept telling me I should have gotten an ipad 2 instead of a cheap imitation (the transformer). I went over to make small talks. Eventually, I asked him where his ipad was and what he's been using it for. He told me he uses it to play games every once in a while and that he now thinks he wasted money on it. That answer surprised me, because for months he was convinced his ipad was much better than my transformer. As I was about to turn around and went back to my thing, he said, "yeah, I should have gotten what you have" nodding at my transformer+dock sitting across the room.
So, if you want to get a tablet that you have for bragging rights, get the ipad2. If you want something that's worth your investment, get the transformer.
@ above poster. that was precisely my reasoning.
I only use my laptop to type when I'm out and about but all the other media stuff I know do on a pad. ergo. if android can now handle office stuff well with docs to go or some other office suite software and can open doc files, then I've found exactly what will suit my needs.
I'm looking to cover that laptop aspect with a transformer prime as well. My question is how you subjectively feel the productivity suites on transformer can stack up against a laptops. I've typed a bit on the keyboard and feel comfortable there, but haven't used any android word processors or presentation makers to get a good comparison vs something like ms office software. I know they won't be as powerful, but in practice, do you feel the lack, or are you happy with stuff on transformer?
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$350 for the TF and a nice carbon fiber case. But it was a B60 model which seems to sell better. The person buying it said he was looking everywhere for this version and none of the other on CL for weeks were the rootable ones.
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Was that for just the TF or the TF and a dock?
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$350 for the TF and a nice carbon fiber case. But it was a B60 model which seems to sell better. The person buying it said he was looking everywhere for this version and none of the other on CL for weeks were the rootable ones.
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I'm looking to cover that laptop aspect with a transformer prime as well. My question is how you subjectively feel the productivity suites on transformer can stack up against a laptops. I've typed a bit on the keyboard and feel comfortable there, but haven't used any android word processors or presentation makers to get a good comparison vs something like ms office software. I know they won't be as powerful, but in practice, do you feel the lack, or are you happy with stuff on transformer?
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Personally, I find the Android office suites only good for the simplest projects. For example, I can write fiction using them but not non-fiction or work documents because those need things like robust headers and footers. Polaris is pretty good at viewing my work presentations (which have complex graphics) but not for creating them. And etc.
Overall, I've found the Transformer+dock to be good for doing draft work on-the-go, but not for any complex creative work. The office suites just aren't robust enough. But for just laying down text, it's great--there's just not a better lightweight device with such great battery life and decent keyboard available anywhere, particularly for the price. The Prime is just going to make that equation stronger.
Note: For pure writing without worrying about formatting and such, I've actually been using Evernote. It works well enough, and of course everything I write gets automatically synced to every device I own. It's nice to not have to worry in the slightest about whether my latest version of a document is saved everywhere.
Thanks, prettymuch what I figured. Doesn't dissuade my interest in the device. I'm looking forward to the day when some real high quality productivity stuff gets made...or will hope someone figures a way to dual boot with win 8 down the road =).
After playing with a TF since April I think it is OK for many tasks, but is not a laptop replacement. Too often I find I need to run some applications that is only available for laptops. This is where I think Windows 8 can really shine so I will probably hold off on another 10 inch tablet until I can try something running Windows 8.
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I'm looking to cover that laptop aspect with a transformer prime as well. My question is how you subjectively feel the productivity suites on transformer can stack up against a laptops. I've typed a bit on the keyboard and feel comfortable there, but haven't used any android word processors or presentation makers to get a good comparison vs something like ms office software. I know they won't be as powerful, but in practice, do you feel the lack, or are you happy with stuff on transformer?
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I have. I absolutely don't miss my laptop at all. I've created several presentations while on the train with my TF+dock. I've typed many reports with the TF+dock.
Again, I got the TF+dock with the attitude that I needed to learn an entirely new platform to make it productive. And in this, I've succeeded. My laptop has been untouched for 5 months. It will soon go onto ebay.
I've also known some people who got the TF+dock intending to use it like a laptop and then when they couldn't they ***** about it.
Your choice, really, what you want to do with your investment.
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Windows 8 will be a plus. While I do not have a windows 8 tablet, I have some friends who are devs and have gotten their hands on the windows 8 tablet. They've assured me that it's pretty slick, even if it's only a beta. When it comes out, we will be able to enjoy all the full features of microsoft office right on our tablets.
Of course, by then android devs may have already created office apps that have just as much and good functionalities as microsoft office. Only time will tell.
BTW, I've bought all the office apps available on the market. My favorite is office suite pro 5, but others are good, too. My only disappointment is none of the excel functions have something as simple as x-y scatter plot. What I wouldn't give for an android excel app that could do this.
I have been wrestling with the issue of usefulness in a college situation, note taking, researching etc. It is quite a large investment and I wanted to make the right choice.
Two Questions:
1. Do you love your tablet?
2. Is it better than or does it replace a laptop?
I'm sure this thread has been made before, but the search function for the xda app is horrific.
Thanks!
1. Do you love your tablet?
Yes, no homo.
2. Is it better than or does it replace a laptop?
Depends on what you want. I don't have a laptop so I don't have a choice. If you want something powerful to run workstation type programs, then you need a laptop. If you only want to watch movies or edit documents, a tablet would be a good idea.
1. Do you love your tablet?
Yep! first tablet (had the prime, but its the same thing basically!) and so far its working really well...may not be as fluid as ipad (my other choice) but nevertheless very versatile and gets the job done (of taking notes)
2. Is it better than or does it replace a laptop?
It can replace a laptop depending on what your using for....i had a laptop for taking notes in skool but i upgrade to my custom build desktop and got the transformer instead. Did it replace the laptop for me? yep, easy to take notes with and is half the size and weight. not to mention you can play angry birds when your bored in class. But is it better than a laptop? Maybe not in terms of multi-tasking. but its still kick a** for a portable device that last up to 10 hours in battery life.
bottom line is if the transformer suits your needs. For me, it def did.
As to "love", that is purely subjective. I do enjoy it if that helps.
As to which is better for your situation, that is going to depend purely on your needs. Not a knock on the Infinity, but if you get the dock station keyboard, that make the cost $650 to $750US. You can get a pretty decent laptop, non-apple. Although, there are plenty of apps that can handle most things people want to do, tablets, at this point, are just not as robust as a laptop with say, Windows 7.
If you're just taking notes in class, writing papers, surfing the web, maybe some research on the net, probably be fine. If you're a computer science major and need to do code, not likely.
I've owned laptops for about ten years. Have used them in the class room setting. Been using PCs for a little under twenty years. I graduated college a little thirteen years ago. I've only been using Android for about a year and half on a Evo 4G--email, IM, media, writing notes using Dos2Go, using spreed sheets in Docs2Go, games, rooted, and so forth. Only got the Infinity a few days ago myself. Despite not being well versed on the Infinity, I think I may have an decent idea.
On top of that, make sure the school doesn't have some kind of requirements in regards to the PC you may be able to use. Some may have requires because of how homework is turned in or exams are done.
The infinity (or any of the Transformer models) is great for taking notes because of the keyboard dock. The device is super thin, super light, has a keyboard dock, long battery life, completely silent and pretty damn powerful! I use my Infinity for all note-taking at work. I use an app called "Classic Notes + App Box" - it does everything! You can type in your notes, attach sketches, attach pictures, etc. You can even do stuff like look up zip codes, convert measurements, etc. Really powerful app.
And the really nice part is that it's 100% searchable! If I need to look something up in my notes, I just search for whatever I'm looking for and shows me all of the matches almost instantly. It has tons of other features and the author provides the best support that I've ever seen. Want a new feature? Let him know and if it makes sense, it will be there shortly!
Highly recommended..
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upstandingcitizen said:
I have been wrestling with the issue of usefulness in a college situation, note taking, researching etc. It is quite a large investment and I wanted to make the right choice.
Two Questions:
1. Do you love your tablet?
2. Is it better than or does it replace a laptop?
I'm sure this thread has been made before, but the search function for the xda app is horrific.
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1. Yes I like it a lot.
2. It depends. When I'm at home I use mostly my PC or the Infinity depending on what I want to do. When I'm travelling <3 weeks I take the Infinity with me because it's light and has a good battery life.
However if I would've to travel for a longer time (+3 weeks) . I would definitely take my laptop with me but I haven't done that for over a year now so my laptop is now collecting dust which is a shame because it was quite expensive.
So I would say if you have a PC get the Infinity if not buy a good laptop.
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1.) I rely heavily on Jorte calendar to keep me headed in a straight line. I've given up on my companies outlook calendar and simply transfer meetings over to google calendar (Jorte pulls in google calendar) at work. This along makes me depend on this tablet. I don't "love" this tablet, as any similiar device would do, but I would be at a big loss with out it. I keep HDMI cables in my bag so I can watch movies on my hotel TV while traveling and when the kids are with me on the road they can watch Cars or other toons while I take care of other things.
2.) No it absolutely does not replace my laptop. Never could. But I would never expect it to. Everyones different, so if you do alot of reading on your laptop and basic web surfing it may work fine for you. Even the occasional paper being written would be ok. But for me I rarely sit down and type anything other then email and forums that is less then 5+ pages. Windows is my "get stuff done" OS. Android is more of my assistant, entertainment, makes life easier OS.
i love my tablets and have more tablets than either desktops or laptops (but not combined, lol).
tablets are better at certain things than a laptop. you can get better battery life without spending over a grand on an ultrabook. plus the portability, instant on, touch interface (i can't stand track pads, but somehow the transformer trackpad seems to work well). For portable entertainment, it's hard to beat.
that the only laptop that the tablets have replaced was my "netbook." actually an acer 12" timeline. it was far better spec-wise, but not as portable.
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1. Do you love your tablet?
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So far I really like my tablet. This is kind of a nonsense question...of course we love our tablets.
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2. Is it better than or does it replace a laptop?
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Simply? No. Of course not. But it can be better in some situations like note taking, as you suggested. I'm personally planning on using this thing for note taking and simple tasks, but more powerful tasks will be done on my laptop. My suggestion is to have a laptop or desktop around to do more power-hungry tasks, but for most simple cases it should work just fine.
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It is quite a large investment and I wanted to make the right choice.
Two Questions:
1. Do you love your tablet?
2. Is it better than or does it replace a laptop?
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1. Ummm...I like my tablet
2. In no way does it replace a notebook
$500.00 can buy a pretty decent notebook.
My last notebook has the AMD Vision quad core APU with 16 GB of RAM.
It handles Photoslop CS5, MAYA and PoserPro 2012 like a champ.
When Android tablets are able to run desktop graphics 3D rendering stuff like these they will no longer be toys for the gadgeteer!
1) Yes
2) As others have said, its highly dependent on both what your needs are and how much you're willing to tinker with things to get it doing what you want. Simple web browsing and lightweight document editing? Sure. Photo editing or software development? Maybe. Anything more than that? Probably not.
Chief Geek said:
1.) I rely heavily on Jorte calendar to keep me headed in a straight line. I've given up on my companies outlook calendar and simply transfer meetings over to google calendar (Jorte pulls in google calendar) at work. This along makes me depend on this tablet. I don't "love" this tablet, as any similiar device would do, but I would be at a big loss with out it. I keep HDMI cables in my bag so I can watch movies on my hotel TV while traveling and when the kids are with me on the road they can watch Cars or other toons while I take care of other things.
2.) No it absolutely does not replace my laptop. Never could. But I would never expect it to. Everyones different, so if you do alot of reading on your laptop and basic web surfing it may work fine for you. Even the occasional paper being written would be ok. But for me I rarely sit down and type anything other then email and forums that is less then 5+ pages. Windows is my "get stuff done" OS. Android is more of my assistant, entertainment, makes life easier OS.
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This ^^ pretty much sums up my usage, except I use Touch Calendar and Work Calendar (hospital shifts). The 700 is a great appeaser as far a small kids (I have a 4- and a 2-year-old) go.
1. Yes i love my tablet
2. Yes and no it will all depend on the person and your personal usage. I find no need whatsoever to have a big and bulky laptop when i can have my Tab with me when i need to be mobile. When I need a lil more power I use my gaming rig back in my dorm
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I was planning to replace my laptop; but the inability to connect to monitor over DVI puts a crimp in my plans. All my monitors are DVI only, and the TF700 won't work with any of them using the DVI/HDMI adapter. It's a pain to code on the 10" screen.
I got this thing 2 days now and I love it. It is a replacement for my old laptop wich I used to edit text and stuff like that. surf a little. And watching movies with that old thing was a no go anyway. Now with this I can even use AirPlay to play stuff on my TV or something else. I love it
So to 1 a defenite YES.
And to 2, for me it is a yes. But I use my desktop for the heavy stuff. like gaming and all that crap.
And to have a touchscreen and a keyboard, I never did stuff this fast and nice. I love it. And the batterylife on this is 4 times longer then my old lappy.
1. This is my first tablet and so far I really like it. It is very light which makes it easy to bring to class and you are able to do most of your class work with it.
2. Currently, I do not think it will replace a laptop. There are numerous reasons as to why and I am sure people before me have mentioned it. But if you have a tablet and laptop, you could look into RDP (Remote desktop) to access your desktop through your tablet. There are a bit of issues with it, but it gets the job done (depending on what you do)
All in all, 500 dollars is a big investment and not to mention that you will probably buy accessories too. I would really determine what you will be doing at school and in your leisure time. After, weigh each pro and con for each device and go from there. I hope this helps
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I am wondering if the transformer pad can replace an ultrabook, since my candidates are either transformer or an ultrabook. What I mean by replace is, will it run software like Office without issues?
I have never had a tablet before, so I do not know what kind of issues I might come over, so those with tablets (with keyboard?): What should I know about a tablet before buying one? Do you prefer your tablet with keyboard to do office tasks or do you prefer laptop?
Thanks in advance!
I have the keyboard but don't type with more than two fingers.
I do miss a mouse.
The keyboard has a USB port in addition to sd card reader but I've sent off for a Bluetooth mouse.
I work mostly in Excel spreadsheets & with a mouse I'm good to go.
Tablet is better. Better battery life and less weight (IMHO)
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I have a TF700T with Dock Keyboard and a UX31E ultrabook. The short answer is no my TF700T can not replace my UX31E. However with that said the amount of time spent using my UX31E has decreased dramatically for such things as internet content reading, email reading as well as answering, simple spreadsheet creation/updating, simple word document creation/updating, weather checking and youtube video watching. When any of these tasks get a bit more complicated out comes my UX31E. From a battery length the TF700T with dock keyboard way way out lasts my UX31E. I keep both devices in my bed side night stand top drawer for ready use with both being charged over night. During the day my TF700T with dock is in our kitchen waiting for my use, my UX31E is in the night stand awaiting those times I need it. Another difference at least for me is the inability of the TF700T to position two different spreadsheets (or ducuments) side by side for viewing/editing/comparing/copying. Another difference is the price which for me amounted to around $500.
It still depends what exactly you are doing. If you are doing just more basic spreadsheets and word documents that tablet works great. If you are working with documents that are more highly formatted though, I would go with the ultra book. For my use as a student, the 700 with a doc is prefect for me. If I ever need to do more heavy work while at school I just use a program like splashtop to remote control my computer at home. Hope that helps!
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Sari95 said:
I am wondering if the transformer pad can replace an ultrabook, since my candidates are either transformer or an ultrabook. What I mean by replace is, will it run software like Office without issues?
I have never had a tablet before, so I do not know what kind of issues I might come over, so those with tablets (with keyboard?): What should I know about a tablet before buying one? Do you prefer your tablet with keyboard to do office tasks or do you prefer laptop?
Thanks in advance!
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You'll get Polaris office with the Infinity...
You have to remember Android is not windows...
A notebook is always better for typing or real office tasks.
Tablets can be difficult for things like printing documents over a network.
Reading some web based PDFs etc.
I wouldn't try to use a tablet for any intense office tasks.
If and when Microsoft Office comes to android this fall....omgwtfbbqsauuuuuuuce <3
Thanks for replying
Making your answers short: it may be able to replace the ultrabook depending on my use, but might cause difficulties with compatibility with other office software. Thus, the ultrabook is the best choice, am I correct?
Sari95 said:
Thanks for replying
Making your answers short: it may be able to replace the ultrabook depending on my use, but might cause difficulties with compatibility with other office software. Thus, the ultrabook is the best choice, am I correct?
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Yes
I have owned an Asus UX31e ultrabook since it's release in Canada. I just picked up a tf700 on Friday and although it is a very powerful/capable device it will never replace the ux31 or my desktop.
It's really dependant on your needs.
As always, it depends on your needs. If you only need to watch movies, browse the internet, play butthurt birds and simple games, then a tablet is the best deal. If you need to convert/encode videos, play more games (>gaming >on a laptop), run specific windows only programs or do 1337 haxx0rz, then an ultrabook would be what you want.
For me, I would say No Way. Don't forget, Android is an OS designed for a mobile phone. When trying to be serious about using a tablet you will constantly be reminded you are working on a big phone. Even the browser and email experience is kind of frustrating at times.
As a tablet however, the TF700 is a great choice for a lot of reasons.
Im looking for real world feedback about using the Note 10.1 for school
work. I won't be taking any art related or technical classes, but business
related. Typing on a keyboard is much cleaner and faster than handwriting,
so I personally think having a Bluetooth keyboard hooked up to a regular
tablet might be better. For general note taking, words per minute is much
faster with a keyboard. Using a tablet with a PDF as a markup tool, I can
add text boxes to PDF documents by pressing and holding, then typing the
notes. I would be able to change the font size and color as well.
Also, I've been doing school online for a while at a school that didn't
really offer ebooks. I'm getting ready to transfer elsewhere, so I anyone
can answer some of the following, it would really help:
-What does the pricing and availability look like for college ebooks? I
understand you can "rent" ebooks for a lower price and it expires after the
designated amount of time.
-What is the typical format for college ebooks? And do they allow you to
mark up the text like a PDF would?
Ultimately, I'm deciding between the Nexus 10 and Note. Having the
resolution of the Nexus will surely help with small text. For business
related classes, I'm just not seeing complete use for the S-pen to strictly
take notes when I can buy a Bluetooth keyboard for $20. If anyone out there
has used both a regular keyboard the Note for college work, please let me
know your opinion. Thanks.
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Sher The Love said:
Im looking for real world feedback about using the Note 10.1 for school
work. I won't be taking any art related or technical classes, but business
related. Typing on a keyboard is much cleaner and faster than handwriting,
so I personally think having a Bluetooth keyboard hooked up to a regular
tablet might be better. For general note taking, words per minute is much
faster with a keyboard. Using a tablet with a PDF as a markup tool, I can
add text boxes to PDF documents by pressing and holding, then typing the
notes. I would be able to change the font size and color as well.
Also, I've been doing school online for a while at a school that didn't
really offer ebooks. I'm getting ready to transfer elsewhere, so I anyone
can answer some of the following, it would really help:
-What does the pricing and availability look like for college ebooks? I
understand you can "rent" ebooks for a lower price and it expires after the
designated amount of time.
-What is the typical format for college ebooks? And do they allow you to
mark up the text like a PDF would?
Ultimately, I'm deciding between the Nexus 10 and Note. Having the
resolution of the Nexus will surely help with small text. For business
related classes, I'm just not seeing complete use for the S-pen to strictly
take notes when I can buy a Bluetooth keyboard for $20. If anyone out there
has used both a regular keyboard the Note for college work, please let me
know your opinion. Thanks.
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I despise taking notes with a keyboard because when it comes to graphics it's too slow and inconvenient on a keyboard. I actually chose to buy a Note 10.1 over having a laptop because of it's great capability to take notes in handwriting. You won't have much luck with eBooks. Although it will change its just a matter of when. You can mark up PDFs easily by importing them into S-Note. I actually bought a Apple Bluetooth keyboard to pair with this tablet and after making sure it was compatible I have never used it. I've just been carrying it around in my backpack. It really depends on your style. There are people who can take notes effectively on a computer and others who can take notes with a fat stylus on an iPad which involves a lot of panning and resizing. For me I wanted to be able to always have all my notes with me and I wanted accurate handwritten notes. The Note 10.1's S-Pen made the learning curve basically zero. I've really enjoyed this tablet since I've been using it for my school notes since it came out.
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PurpleSh4rk said:
I despise taking notes with a keyboard because when it comes to graphics it's too slow and inconvenient on a keyboard. I actually chose to buy a Note 10.1 over having a laptop because of it's great capability to take notes in handwriting. You won't have much luck with eBooks. Although it will change its just a matter of when. You can mark up PDFs easily by importing them into S-Note. I actually bought a Apple Bluetooth keyboard to pair with this tablet and after making sure it was compatible I have never used it. I've just been carrying it around in my backpack. It really depends on your style. There are people who can take notes effectively on a computer and others who can take notes with a fat stylus on an iPad which involves a lot of panning and resizing. For me I wanted to be able to always have all my notes with me and I wanted accurate handwritten notes. The Note 10.1's S-Pen made the learning curve basically zero. I've really enjoyed this tablet since I've been using it for my school notes since it came out.
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Thanks for the reply! It definitely seems more convenient and quicker for smaller notes on graphics as you mentioned. As far as "not having luck with ebooks," is that from a mark up stand point or the general availability and use for college classes?
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Sher The Love said:
Thanks for the reply! It definitely seems more convenient and quicker for smaller notes on graphics as you mentioned. As far as "not having luck with ebooks," is that from a mark up stand point or the general availability and use for college classes?
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Availability and pricing for the most part. Amazon and Apple have been negotiating with textbook publishers for some time but the publishers are too greedy to provide affordable ebooks because it will cut into their profits. For the few books I have read the Kindle app works great. You can highlight, bookmark and make notes. All of which you can quickly find in in a list of all your markups.
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Is it possible to make handwritten notes in Kindle e-books?
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Sher The Love said:
Im looking for real world feedback about using the Note 10.1 for school
work. I won't be taking any art related or technical classes, but business
related. Typing on a keyboard is much cleaner and faster than handwriting,
so I personally think having a Bluetooth keyboard hooked up to a regular
tablet might be better. For general note taking, words per minute is much
faster with a keyboard. Using a tablet with a PDF as a markup tool, I can
add text boxes to PDF documents by pressing and holding, then typing the
notes. I would be able to change the font size and color as well.
Also, I've been doing school online for a while at a school that didn't
really offer ebooks. I'm getting ready to transfer elsewhere, so I anyone
can answer some of the following, it would really help:
-What does the pricing and availability look like for college ebooks? I
understand you can "rent" ebooks for a lower price and it expires after the
designated amount of time.
-What is the typical format for college ebooks? And do they allow you to
mark up the text like a PDF would?
Ultimately, I'm deciding between the Nexus 10 and Note. Having the
resolution of the Nexus will surely help with small text. For business
related classes, I'm just not seeing complete use for the S-pen to strictly
take notes when I can buy a Bluetooth keyboard for $20. If anyone out there
has used both a regular keyboard the Note for college work, please let me
know your opinion. Thanks.
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If I where you I would, undoubtedly pick an Asus Transformer tablet. It's a laptop when you want it to be (kinda) and a tablet when you decide to read, browse some or anything but typing really. You get a huge battery when linked (something like 12h), standard USB ports and a trackpad that is in my opinion superior to the touchscreen when writing. And the build quality is just amazing, at least compared to this Note 10.1.
Font get me wrong, as an engineering student I love my note and I wouldn't trade it for any other tablet without a digitizer. But if you aren't using the pen the way I do, there are way better tablets out there.
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Axel_ said:
If I where you I would, undoubtedly pick an Asus Transformer tablet. It's a laptop when you want it to be (kinda) and a tablet when you decide to read, browse some or anything but typing really. You get a huge battery when linked (something like 12h), standard USB ports and a trackpad that is in my opinion superior to the touchscreen when writing. And the build quality is just amazing, at least compared to this Note 10.1.
Font get me wrong, as an engineering student I love my note and I wouldn't trade it for any other tablet without a digitizer. But if you aren't using the pen the way I do, there are way better tablets out there.
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Thanks for the advice. I actually had the tf700 some time back. Unfortunately, I couldn't get past the slow io issues. My wife's almost two tear old galaxy tab loaded everything faster! My solution to that is a flip cover and add on keyboard with track pad. Of course,battery life won't be nearly as good.
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Is it possible to make handwritten notes in Kindle e-books?
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Unfortunately not yet.
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Sher The Love said:
Thanks for the advice. I actually had the tf700 some time back. Unfortunately, I couldn't get past the slow io issues. My wife's almost two tear old galaxy tab loaded everything faster! My solution to that is a flip cover and add on keyboard with track pad. Of course,battery life won't be nearly as good.
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I had the TF201 for about a month with the keyboard and I really tried to like it but the keyboard was too cramped and didn't balance the tablet's weight well. I did enjoy the 3 day battery life out of it. I usually get two sometimes 3 on my Note without any external keyboard battery.
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Sher The Love said:
Thanks for the advice. I actually had the tf700 some time back. Unfortunately, I couldn't get past the slow io issues. My wife's almost two tear old galaxy tab loaded everything faster! My solution to that is a flip cover and add on keyboard with track pad. Of course,battery life won't be nearly as good.
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From what I've heard the new transformer won't have these issues at all and just looking at the hardware it seems pretty promising. I have not seen nor tested one on real life so I don't know how good it is. But before buying another one, I should give it a try and browse for some tests because I think it's really good.
All these androids apart though, have you considered the new Microsoft surface? A decent MS Office is something I would really value. And the pro version even got a stylus with the same technology the Note has!
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Well, I am studying chemistry and biology, but maybe youll find my feedback useful.
I purchased the note 10.1 specifically for taking notes during lectures, as didnt want keep carrying tons of notebooks with me. Plus, our lecturers usually put the PDF file of their lectures in the website, so I can download them before the lecture and during lecture add some useful information and comments to it. During lectures I can eqully well draw schemes, diagrams, graphs, reactions and just write the general stuff. Tiny button at the side of S-pen can be customised to change eg, colour of writing by clicking it, which makes it really perfect when you need to distinguish between lots of different type of information.
When buying I was a bit confused, I didnt know if the writing would be good enough for fast note taking, but after a while I was completely happy with the accuracy and speed of the writing with the S-pen. I almost dont use typing, as handwriting (mechanical movement of the hand) actually helps to memorise information, and thats what you need during studies.
I actually think that this tablet is the most useful tool I bought in recent years, and truly, it has no competitors in making notes.