Ok, so anyone have any idea of release date, retail cost or carrier for HTC's Google/Android phone the Dream? I broke my MDA and so I think I'm going to get the new iPhone ($200.00) as a temporary patch til it comes out. Best I've heard so far is the fall this year.
well the dream seems to be just that at the moment.
We've seen neither spy shots nor official shots yet, have we?
Check out this link of may 20 this year:
http://androidcommunity.com/first-live-images-of-fullscreen-android-demo-20080528
I really love my Samsung Captivate phone from ATT. It's one of the better phones i have had from ATT...mind you not the best but one of the better phones. Recently I have become extremly frustrated with the whole froyo update situation. First the official release was going to come out in September then pushed back to November and now from what im hearing not until December through a OTA update from ATT. When I got my phone I was told by the ATT rep that an update from 2.1 to froyo 2.2 would becoming soon. I went on ahead and got the Captivate against my better judgment. That was this past summer and i paid 199.99 to upgrade. Well now it's November and all we get are rumors about an update that may or may not happen. Now that same captivate is selling for 129.99 at Best Buy. Now I feel ripped off, not only from ATT but now from Samsung. For now on whenever I purchase a new phone I will buy the phone based on what it can do at that time not based on what it might be able to do later on down the line, that way i won't be so frustrated. My older brother has an iphone 4 and now im really starting to get upset because now he is streaming netflix movies and doing a host of other things with his phone that my phone may or may not be able to do. I know that developmentally the iphone is limited but...you get what you pay for out the box and your not waiting for the phone to be able to do something else later on down the line. Im seriously thinking of just caughing up the money and picking up an iphone 4 from the Apple store this weekend. If I do that then I will give away my Craptivate to anybody who wants it because i wouldn't feel right charging someone for it being as though it's already outdated with 2.1 firmware on it.
Ill buy it if you want to sell it
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I really love my Samsung Captivate phone from ATT. It's one of the better phones i have had from ATT...mind you not the best but one of the better phones. Recently I have become extremly frustrated with the whole froyo update situation. First the official release was going to come out in September then pushed back to November and now from what im hearing not until December through a OTA update from ATT. When I got my phone I was told by the ATT rep that an update from 2.1 to froyo 2.2 would becoming soon. I went on ahead and got the Captivate against my better judgment. That was this past summer and i paid 199.99 to upgrade. Well now it's November and all we get are rumors about an update that may or may not happen. Now that same captivate is selling for 129.99 at Best Buy. Now I feel ripped off, not only from ATT but now from Samsung. For now on whenever I purchase a new phone I will buy the phone based on what it can do at that time not based on what it might be able to do later on down the line, that way i won't be so frustrated. My older brother has an iphone 4 and now im really starting to get upset because now he is streaming netflix movies and doing a host of other things with his phone that my phone may or may not be able to do. I know that developmentally the iphone is limited but...you get what you pay for out the box and your not waiting for the phone to be able to do something else later on down the line. Im seriously thinking of just caughing up the money and picking up an iphone 4 from the Apple store this weekend. If I do that then I will give away my Craptivate to anybody who wants it because i wouldn't feel right charging someone for it being as though it's already outdated with 2.1 firmware on it.
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First, you shouldn't be upset about the price dropping. All electronics have a dramatic price drop after a release. You should expect that.
Second, there is a Froyo update coming out for the phone. No doubt about it. We have already seen it released for the international version. We have two leaked releases for the Captivate. If there wasn't an update coming out, Samsung wouldn't be spending the time in making these builds. Also, you bought a Captivate with 2.1. The box doesn't say, Android 2.1 with a 2.2 update coming soon.
I also wouldn't call Android 2.1 "outdated". Compared to Android 2.2, yes it is outdated. But compared to other mobile operating systems, it's advanced. I cannot think of anything iOS can do that Android 2.1 cannot.
Now, with regard to applications: this last year has been huge for Android. They now have the volume of users and where there's volume, the developers can make money. You speak of Netflix, they will be releasing an Android app in Q1 of next year.
It could be that this phone is too advanced for you. iPhones are great and easy to use. If you don't understand all of the enhancements that Android brings, then maybe an iPhone is best for you. If being able to stream Netflix NOW instead of 2 - 3 months from now is that important to you, then get an iPhone and trade off:
Open source goodness
Awesome community support
Phone customization
Flawless google integration
More hardware options (you're not stuck with just one style phone)
Mass storage capabilities
You're not dependent on iTunes
File structure access
Build your own apps (google app inventor)
Up to 48 GB of storage
Replaceable battery
$5 monthly insurance (at&t doesn't offer insurance for the iPhone)
REAL multitasking
Memory management (If you choose to manually do it. Android is great at managing memory itself.)
The awesome Widgets
Notification bar
Oh, and the list above doesn't even mention any of the infinite possibilities if you chose to root your phone.
My question is why do you need the "official release"? The leaked version is probably just as good (I saw probably since OTA isn't out). I love it and am not really looking forward to the official one. Also most android phones are not in 2.2 so you really shouldn't feel outdated. By the way Amazon gives this phone for free (well 1 cent to be exact).
Edit: Didn't see above post; says it all better than me.
Frustrating, ain't it? Also part of the fun of the gadget.
Heck, searching for news on when the update'll be released is how I get through the workday! (I've also spent too much time flashing different incarnations of Cognitian's ROMs - Which are great, by the way).
The update will come, then we'll all be clammoring for Gingerbread!
@skinien - Great reply!
Not being able to watch Netflix movie on your phone really has nothing to do with Samsung, AT&T or the Captivate. Netflix decided to release their Android version later than the other platforms so there is nothing anyone can do.
So the real question is why do you need 2.2 right now? What capability are you looking for that will only work in 2.2? Personally, the only thing I need 2.2 for is voice dial over bluetooth.
cool story bro
There will always be an OS, hardware, phone coming soon/out right now better than what you have. *****ing about what you have is certainly an option. Not a good one, IMO, but definitely an option.
I am still using stock 2.1, rooted, with sideloaded Wireless Tether and Flash 10.1, and launcherpro hides the bloat.
With the exception of being able to moves apps to the sd, what is missing?
Who needs FroYo, anyway?
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I really love my Samsung Captivate phone from ATT. It's one of the better phones i have had from ATT...mind you not the best but one of the better phones. Recently I have become extremly frustrated with the whole froyo update situation. First the official release was going to come out in September then pushed back to November and now from what im hearing not until December through a OTA update from ATT. When I got my phone I was told by the ATT rep that an update from 2.1 to froyo 2.2 would becoming soon. I went on ahead and got the Captivate against my better judgment. That was this past summer and i paid 199.99 to upgrade. Well now it's November and all we get are rumors about an update that may or may not happen. Now that same captivate is selling for 129.99 at Best Buy. Now I feel ripped off, not only from ATT but now from Samsung. For now on whenever I purchase a new phone I will buy the phone based on what it can do at that time not based on what it might be able to do later on down the line, that way i won't be so frustrated. My older brother has an iphone 4 and now im really starting to get upset because now he is streaming netflix movies and doing a host of other things with his phone that my phone may or may not be able to do. I know that developmentally the iphone is limited but...you get what you pay for out the box and your not waiting for the phone to be able to do something else later on down the line. Im seriously thinking of just caughing up the money and picking up an iphone 4 from the Apple store this weekend. If I do that then I will give away my Craptivate to anybody who wants it because i wouldn't feel right charging someone for it being as though it's already outdated with 2.1 firmware on it.
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Well..if you will feel bad selling it.I'll gladly pay you for the shipping of it to my home. Feel free to get the I-phone if this is what you are wanting to do. They work great for what they are.I bought both of my sons theirs last August when I got 2 Captivates for my wife and myself.So I can always use a spare one
Your not alone in your feelings of anger over not getting what was promised,I too am a bit pissed off about it as well. I do know that in time it will be available in a official capacity..but in the mean time I'll wait it out like everyone else is doing that wants it. Sooner or later there will be a completely stable custom rom for it that isn't a PIA to load and has everything working properly on it.This is what I am looking forward too,but again it is a waiting game for me and many others..
Feel free to PM me your mailing address for the shipping cost if you elect to give it away..
Thanks
Mac
Screw the official release, get froyo now!. nothing like free tethering. Im sorry but next flex streaming? who cares i got flash! i get hulu streaming lets see an iphone do that.. my droid takes a poopoo on the iphone.
There are plenty of awesome, free ROMs here. Try one on for size before you go spending hundreds of dollars to be told what you can or can't do with the phone you just bought.
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You have word reference on android, not even a close one on iphone. I dont really use my ipod touch to watch netflix. It gets stuck a lot and the screen is way to small. The only netflix app I used is netflix on windows media center. Why are you frustrated about netflix on a small screen now. And by the way, we have swype keyboard, it if not even on evo 4g. And my rooted phone has many paid apps and games on it, but I got them for free. You never need to jailbreak it to install some free games.
Iphone doesn't have the xda app, hahaha, just a joke.
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Others have said it but if your "smart" enough to make your way to the XDA developers forums you should have no problem flashing one of the 10+ 2.2 roms in the android dev subforum.
Who's going to really use the official att 2.2 with all its bloat ware anyway?
Iphone is for kids that want to show off their fart apps at school and for grandmas and grandmas who cant use a phone. On the other had captivate is for people who like to flash, unbrick their phones and explore the open world of android with will be the furture of mobile devices. Iphone has been the same for the past 3 years and people get horny when a new iphone comes out and it caj do copy paste wow!
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skinien said:
First, you shouldn't be upset about the price dropping. All electronics have a dramatic price drop after a release. You should expect that.
Second, there is a Froyo update coming out for the phone. No doubt about it. We have already seen it released for the international version. We have two leaked releases for the Captivate. If there wasn't an update coming out, Samsung wouldn't be spending the time in making these builds. Also, you bought a Captivate with 2.1. The box doesn't say, Android 2.1 with a 2.2 update coming soon.
I also wouldn't call Android 2.1 "outdated". Compared to Android 2.2, yes it is outdated. But compared to other mobile operating systems, it's advanced. I cannot think of anything iOS can do that Android 2.1 cannot.
Now, with regard to applications: this last year has been huge for Android. They now have the volume of users and where there's volume, the developers can make money. You speak of Netflix, they will be releasing an Android app in Q1 of next year.
It could be that this phone is too advanced for you. iPhones are great and easy to use. If you don't understand all of the enhancements that Android brings, then maybe an iPhone is best for you. If being able to stream Netflix NOW instead of 2 - 3 months from now is that important to you, then get an iPhone and trade off:
Open source goodness
Awesome community support
Phone customization
Flawless google integration
More hardware options (you're not stuck with just one style phone)
Mass storage capabilities
You're not dependent on iTunes
File structure access
Build your own apps (google app inventor)
Up to 48 GB of storage
Replaceable battery
$5 monthly insurance (at&t doesn't offer insurance for the iPhone)
REAL multitasking
Memory management (If you choose to manually do it. Android is great at managing memory itself.)
The awesome Widgets
Notification bar
Oh, and the list above doesn't even mention any of the infinite possibilities if you chose to root your phone.
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Oh okay! you see thats why i like this website for folks like you! so there is a sample of froyo available to download from this site? Thats nice!! i will look for it and give it a try. I think i can hold off on getting rid of it not too mention 400.00 for an iphone is pretty steap....lol!!! So i guess for now im still a android phone owner. I just need to be a little more patient i guess. But tonight when i get off work ill be trying to do the root thing on my phone so that i can tryout the preliminary froyo on my captivate. Thanks for the information I appreciate it.
pobinghun said:
You have word reference on android, not even a close one on iphone. I dont really use my ipod touch to watch netflix. It gets stuck a lot and the screen is way to small. The only netflix app I used is netflix on windows media center. Why are you frustrated about netflix on a small screen now. And by the way, we have swype keyboard, it if not even on evo 4g. And my rooted phone has many paid apps and games on it, but I got them for free. You never need to jailbreak it to install some free games.
Iphone doesn't have the xda app, hahaha, just a joke.
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Yeah your right, ive been reading a lot of responses to my post and from what i gather i have the better phone in the Captivate vs the iphone 4. I think i will keep it. Plus i just heard that you can root the phone and add a sample of froyo that should hold me over until the official froyo arrives. So Thanks a lot for your advise. I will be keeping my Captivate...not too mention 400.00 for an iphone is crazy.
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Iphone is for kids that want to show off their fart apps at school and for grandmas and grandmas who cant use a phone. On the other had captivate is for people who like to flash, unbrick their phones and explore the open world of android with will be the furture of mobile devices. Iphone has been the same for the past 3 years and people get horny when a new iphone comes out and it caj do copy paste wow!
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LOL!!!! okay okay guys I get it! I have the better phone vs the iphone 4, I will be keeping my Captivate, i just have to be a little more patient with it thats all. Im excited about trying out that froyo sample available from this site though. I'll be giving it a try tonight! thanks for all the information!
sportedwood said:
Others have said it but if your "smart" enough to make your way to the XDA developers forums you should have no problem flashing one of the 10+ 2.2 roms in the android dev subforum.
Who's going to really use the official att 2.2 with all its bloat ware anyway?
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Your right, i have the official 2.1 ATT rom now loaded with stuff i don't even use...lol!!! I think i will be keeping my Captivate and trying out a couple of those new roms on it. Thanks guys!!! thats why i love this site!!!
yes its true.. its finally coming. HD version like in Iphone..
http://getandroidstuff.com/plants-zombies-android-launching-exclusively-amazon-ready-free-31st/
REPOST:
Monday 17-May-2011 8:03 AM Free on day one via Amazon Appstore deal
Two bits of good news for Android phone owners today. First up, PopCap will finally release its iPhone super hit (and all-round excellent game) Plants Vs. Zombies on Android devices this month.
And secondly, it'll be completely FREE on its day of release. Not bad, eh? Here's the snag - that day is yet to be set, so you'll have to keep a close eye out so as not to miss it later this month.
Plants Vs. Zombies will be joined by another PopCap puzzler, Chuzzle, also free on its day of release, which will be May 31.
Both will thereafter cost $2.99, and both will be exclusive to Amazon's Appstore for the first two weeks after release.
I found a leaked version of the actual Plants Versus Zombies....it booted, it crashed a bunch, then i got it to start the game and several of the sprites were garbled. I'm hoping they fix this or it was just faulty code because with PVZ on my Gtab I will NEVER leave home without it
Macros746
did get Chuzzle free on Amazon the other day, doesn't play full screen...
BOOO!!!
How come this isn't supported on our xperia plays?
The market tells me that it is unsupported on my device and when I tried an APK out of curiosity, it tells me that it is not supported on my device.
is everyone else having the same problem, or found a workaround?
Everyone is too busy waiting for fifa 12
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haha, rather play an NHL game than either, but Madden lessens the need for hockey a little. just thought a big EA release like that should be supported
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haha, rather play an NHL game than either, but Madden lessens the need for hockey a little. just thought a big EA release like that should be supported
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I think it may be part of the deal sony did with EA for the fifa exclusive. Maybe support for madden will come when fifa goes to all the devices.
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in the US, Verizon has an exclusive for the Madden franchise on their android devices. Verizon R800X's came preloaded with Madden 11, Im sure you could find that around here somewhere.
my Canadian rogers r800a came stock with madden 11 also. Too bad about 12 I've been waiting weeks for it but apparently only available through us carriers atm
I bought Madden 12 last night, but when it gets to downloading the 300meg of data it then tells me I'm in the wrong country...
Now when I open the Market and go to My Apps its not there, even though its in my app drawer? I assume they've now set it to US only. How can I get my refund though? Alternatively how can i get my 300 meg?
**EDIT** Oops, got here via search and didn't notice I was in an Xperia forum. Sorry.
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Everyone is too busy waiting for fifa 12
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Oh man I can't wait till FIFA 12 comes out!
well I was able to play madden 12 on a friends device today. I have to say this is the ABSOLUTE WORST app I have ever seen. Here is a list of the pro's and con's
Pro:
pretty nice graphics
After playing this piece of crap I have a new found love for madden 11
Cons:
You can't run the ball at all. EVERY run play results in negative yards.
the game responds to screen taps maybe 50% of the time and that is a generous estimate. this is really bad because in order to pass you have to tap on the receiver down field. Every game I played I was sacked at least 12 times because my QB couldn't get rid of the ball.
The "new and improved animations" are totally ridiculous and completely unrealistic. If you tackle an opponent from behind he flies backwards. That's right backwards?!
on screen controls are way too small
If you call a timeout and select a play your players proceed to the line of scrimmage then you are brought back to the play selection screen as if you hadn't selected a play at all yet.
Speaking of play selection, when you are in the middle of choosing a play sometimes the game kicks you back to the start of the process and you have to select your formation and play again. sometimes this would happen 2-3 times per down. Now I can see why there is no play clock in the game.
If you try to do ANYTHING on a pass defense it almost always results in a pass interference call. I had to just let the cpu handle defense on passing downs.
I am so glad that they didn't release it on the Play because I probably would have wasted $8 on this piece of useless eye candy. Any if anyone thinks I am being a little dramatic on my evaluations, just have a look on the market for the user reviews. I remember the days when I loved EA games. Now they are just a total joke. I believe it is called madden not because of John Madden but because that is all that playing it does...MADDENS you with frustration and the 12 part is prob. refering to how many times you have to touch the screen before it responds.
In one word... PATHETIC!!!
Hmm. Doesn't sound good.
I got it all downloaded, but when I run it I have sound but a black screen? I see one button and I can manage to select exit by prodding round on the screen...
Any ideas the best way to go after a refund?
Doesn't look like its happening today (7/13) as it was supposed to
fronto said:
Doesn't look like its happening today (7/13) as it was supposed to
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Apparently no .... ??
So tired of waiting for a new pixel devices.
I was looking for a good Compact Android phone with stock Android but it's impossible theses days.
I'm looking the other side now (11 pro or xs) with new features of ios 14 which seems like android (pip, new notifications menu, widgets,...)
I am tired of waiting too, so tired I bought a 3a XL to hold me over. The big G certainly knows they've lost sales with the delays. I'm sure they have a plan for the future. What it is or whether it makes sense or not remains to be seen.
Preorder just went live on Amazon US. Release Date on Aug 20th. I ordered the bundle and went back into my order and cancelled the case to get the phone only.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08CFSZLQ4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
What is the advantage ordering from Amazon rather that Google?
AMZ has much easier returns, and much better supply chain.