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Inspire vs Atrix

I just switched back to ATT from Sprint (Evo 4g) and bought the Inspire with the intent of returning it next month when the Atrix comes out.
I seem to, however, really like the Inspire and am wondering if the Atrix is really worth the additional $100. Besides the higher res (yet smaller) screen, why would I change to the Atrix? Sure it has a dual core Tegra2, but Froyo doesn't even use 2 cores so what am I getting?
I know that the Atrix has a locked bootloader but that isn't a huge dealbreaker for me.
Thoughts?

wookiebush said:
I just switched back to ATT from Sprint (Evo 4g) and bought the Inspire with the intent of returning it next month when the Atrix comes out.
I seem to, however, really like the Inspire and am wondering if the Atrix is really worth the additional $100. Besides the higher res (yet smaller) screen, why would I change to the Atrix? Sure it has a dual core Tegra2, but Froyo doesn't even use 2 cores so what am I getting?
I know that the Atrix has a locked bootloader but that isn't a huge dealbreaker for me.
Thoughts?
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Honestly I can't say I'm a fan of pentile screens like the Atrix has. Not to mention I read somewhere(cannot verify accuracy)that the Dalvik VM system on Froyo at the very least does not support multithreading so a dual core won't make any difference yet.
Plus, I have had bad experiences with Moto. I'm pretty happy with HTC so far.

Apps built with the NDK can take advantage of the dual core processor. The processor, resolution, ffc, hdmi, and 1080p recording all sound great, but software is more important to me. The Captivate tought me that. Great hardware doesn't mean crap if the software sucks. Sense is a lot better than Motoblur and the locked bootloader downright sucks. HTC is also slightly better about updating their software. Oh, and the dock and laptop are a complete ripoff.

gtg465x said:
...software is more important to me. The Captivate tought me that. Great hardware doesn't mean crap if the software sucks. Sense is a lot better than Motoblur and the locked bootloader downright sucks.
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Yes, this. Very much this.

I really Like HTC to. Don't really care about Sense since I use Launcher Pro. I guess its a matter of wait and see.

wookiebush said:
I just switched back to ATT from Sprint (Evo 4g) and bought the Inspire with the intent of returning it next month when the Atrix comes out.
I seem to, however, really like the Inspire and am wondering if the Atrix is really worth the additional $100. Besides the higher res (yet smaller) screen, why would I change to the Atrix? Sure it has a dual core Tegra2, but Froyo doesn't even use 2 cores so what am I getting?
I know that the Atrix has a locked bootloader but that isn't a huge dealbreaker for me.
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I just did the exact same thing, still waiting for the inspire to arrive though. I came from the Evo and I love HTC products, I think I'll keep it afterall and wait for the next HTC flagship phone.

The Atrix is more future proof than the Inspire with dual core and a gig of ram. Froyo may not take full advantage of dual core, but how about future builds? Gaming will certainly be smoother and with that huge battery I should be able to get through a day of heavy usage. I can't seem to do that with my Inspire unless I turn off most of the things I like about the phone. It's a tough choice, but blur doesn't bother me so I may make the jump.

gtg465x said:
Apps built with the NDK can take advantage of the dual core processor. The processor, resolution, ffc, hdmi, and 1080p recording all sound great, but software is more important to me. The Captivate tought me that. Great hardware doesn't mean crap if the software sucks. Sense is a lot better than Motoblur and the locked bootloader downright sucks. HTC is also slightly better about updating their software. Oh, and the dock and laptop are a complete ripoff.
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Quoted for troof. HTC is the manufacturer who seems to get it right.

It looks like the difference that the inspire has a .3 inch bigger/lower resolution screen screen, 8GB less memory, higher MP camera (8MP), has digital compass, has HTC sence (maybe better than momto blur?), has fm radio.
I guess it just depends on what features are important to you. My only real question is about the insire's FM radio. Is it actually functioning out of the box or did att disable it?

Go over to the development threads and check out all of the Roms for the Inspire. Then immediately leave because the Atrix will never have that good of a development community. Crippled software on overpowered hardware will never be as good as quality/variety of software on perfectly capable hardware. Dual core isn't standard yet and the benefits of it have yet to be implemented effectively. When we're running custom roms of the next Android update with an optimized kernel, the Atrix will be stuck waiting for an official update with nothing more than a glorified theme.

Androidude said:
Go over to the development threads and check out all of the Roms for the Inspire. Then immediately leave because the Atrix will never have that good of a development community. Crippled software on overpowered hardware will never be as good as quality/variety of software on perfectly capable hardware. Dual core isn't standard yet and the benefits of it have yet to be implemented effectively. When we're running custom roms of the next Android update with an optimized kernel, the Atrix will be stuck waiting for an official update with nothing more than a glorified theme.
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I just exchanged my Atrix for an Inspire yesterday.
After rooting and unlocking, adding CM7 and the 1.8Ghz kernel, I can say with 100% confidence that I made the right choice switching.
Although the screen on the Inspire is lower resolution, it looks amazing, much more so than that of the Atrix.
I think everyone over there in the Atrix forum is coming to the conclusion that their phones will probably never see an unlocked bootloader, and are jumping ship because of it.

mburris said:
Although the screen on the Inspire is lower resolution, it looks amazing, much more so than that of the Atrix.
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^This.....I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks so. I think the Atrix display looks horrible. I continually ponder how more people don't make mention of it. I came from a Captivate (which I still have) and the Inspire before I tried the Atrix and its quality leaves A LOT to be desired.
I still have both devices. And I had decided to return the atrix once or twice but cannot pull the trigger because of the hardware. Everything else, is better on the inspire. I feel like I have to force myself to like the Atrix. I've given it a try (a day's run) and each time I went back to the inspire. Hm, I'll see how it plays out.
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I am extremely confident with my decision to get the inspire. I love the screen and man this thing is fast. Even though the atrix has better specs I really think that the inspire, once rooted and oc'ed is way faster. I pop in to the atrix forums once in a while and it just solidifies my confidence that I got the right phone. Everyone over there is complaining about one thing or another, which wouldnt be that big of deal because Android is so customizable, but that isnt the case with MOTO because of the locked bootloader. Also who really wants to have to wait for official updates? Especially from companies like MOTO and Samsung. I am happy.
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Depends what you are looking for. If you are looking for a phone that under-performs but looks great on a stat sheet - Atrix is for you. I had nothing but hate for that phone after just 3 days of using it. Its sluggish, the UI is clunky, animations were horribly slow.
Inspire has a far better screen believe it or not. It has no pixelation that I can even see (atrix had a ton) and the colors are far far far more accurate. The atrix couldnt even do the color yellow.
Atrix - 2/10 stars
Inspire - 9/10

So far on the att website users averaged give both phones 4 out of 5. I have weighed the pros and cons after playing with both of them for about an hour and believe I will go with the inspire for its 4.3 inch screen, faster and more accurate acquisition of GPS during my tests, 8MP camera, FM radio and good old HTC hardware.
I did notice an issue with the inspire that I was playing with where the pull down screen that shows running or recently launched programs was slow to drag left and right. Anyone else notice this?

jamespaulritter said:
I did notice an issue with the inspire that I was playing with where the pull down screen that shows running or recently launched programs was slow to drag left and right. Anyone else notice this?
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I haven't experienced this.
Via the XDA app for the HTC Inspire

jamespaulritter said:
So far on the att website users averaged give both phones 4 out of 5. I have weighed the pros and cons after playing with both of them for about an hour and believe I will go with the inspire for its 4.3 inch screen, faster and more accurate acquisition of GPS during my tests, 8MP camera, FM radio and good old HTC hardware.
I did notice an issue with the inspire that I was playing with where the pull down screen that shows running or recently launched programs was slow to drag left and right. Anyone else notice this?
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Using RCMixHD and have no issue with this, its super slick and smooth.
You might want to take the custom Rom route anyways to maximize the performance and features of the phone.
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Does the inspire have any sort of tv out capabilities
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had atrix for 3 days and for all 3 days tried to full my self i like the phone... nope didnt work. second day into.. dead pixels exchanged to find screen off to the left and actually twisted another one and the same problem, overall the qhd screen is horrible just go ahead and search something in google and look at the smaller text you'll see the pixels are missing . motorola screwed this one completely ; the phone really feels like was put together in some tiny village in 3th world country. side by side inspire feels smoother faster ( ain't no joke) and with iphone build quality.the last feature got my girlfriends attention and trust me she's one of this iphone4 owners that no matter what point you'll make that makes android shine vs iphone she'll tell ya i don't care. and i dont care if the atrix is better with games , pointless feature if u ask me... ill stick with my ps3 for real gaming experience. would be nice to have hdmi out and louder speaker otherwise thats pretty much what's missing. inspire much better phone.

[Q] HTC sensation or Galaxy s 2??

I don't know which to get I am tore in between both o the phones. Spec wise the galaxy s 2 wins but HTC sense is far better than touchwiz the only thing would suit me will be sense on the galclaxy s 2 but I have heard that it mite hard to port :-\
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I dont think TW 4.0 is bad. Its far far more better than crappy 3.0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4d-wWCf4CQ&feature=feedu

Spec wise the Galaxy S2 lose.
The new snapdragon looks like more powerfull than tegra 2 / exynos, they give you a screen with more resolution and not using pentile, real rgb not 50% more of amoled plus that is less than real stripe.
a little less ram, but who uses 1gb of ram in a phone?
The only things for what I am going to buy the Galaxy S2, is because in 10 years, HTC has not make a decent camera on a phone and a decent audio quality in par with the iphone or the first galaxy, and this are for me totally killer features. Oh, and the internal phone storage.
In the battle HTC sense vs touchwiz, who cares, at the end most of the people turn off that programs and ends using adw or launcher pro.

It's a tough one. Up until HTC Sensation was announced, I was settled on SGS II. But now I'm in a dilemma.
However, SGS II has a better screen - lower resolution, but using SAMOLED+ instead of SLCD (and the difference is notable). SGS II also has a better front camera, more internal memory (a LOT more, 16 GB vs 1 GB), larger battery capacity, and it's thinner.
HTC on the other hand has a better camera, higher screen resolution, dual-led flash, and it's also on T-Mobile. It also comes with a 8 GB microSD card.

kersh said:
Spec wise the Galaxy S2 lose.
The new snapdragon looks like more powerfull than tegra 2 / exynos, they give you a screen with more resolution and not using pentile, real rgb not 50% more of amoled plus that is less than real stripe.
a little less ram, but who uses 1gb of ram in a phone?
The only things for what I am going to buy the Galaxy S2, is because in 10 years, HTC has not make a decent camera on a phone and a decent audio quality in par with the iphone or the first galaxy, and this are for me totally killer features. Oh, and the internal phone storage.
In the battle HTC sense vs touchwiz, who cares, at the end most of the people turn off that programs and ends using adw or launcher pro.
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You nailed it for me. While I'm not really familiar with processors, the EVO 4G has a terrible camera and sound quality. Now I'm considering waiting for a sprint galaxy s2 instead of upgrading to the EVO 3D. I know that both phones will be good, but having the better quality photos and video will make me happy.
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kersh said:
Spec wise the Galaxy S2 lose.
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Apart from the higher resolution offered on Sensation, i can't see how SGSII loses in terms of spec. Initial benchmarks show Exynos perform much better than the new Snapdragon (which is based on the older A8 cortex) but i guess we juz have to wait till May when comparison can be done on retail units instead of those prototypes.
Can't agree more about the camera on HTC phones though. and thats why i'm getting rid of my Desire soon=)

I would have liked to get the Sensation, but I am in an AT&T contract.
Even if I decided to kill the contract and move to T-Mobile, I would be kinda screwed when AT&T acquires TMobile and then the Sensation will not be able to use 3G on AT&T since it does not support the bands.
So between the two I am pretty much forced to get the GS2, or wait and hope the a Sensation build will eventually support AT&T bands, which I will not do...
GS2 looks good enough, but TouchWiz looks awful
edit: ok maybe TW isn't so bad

Deusdies said:
HTC on the other hand has a better camera
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I'm not so sure about that part. HTC has never been known to release phones with great cameras. Average at best, but not great. E.g desire hd, Mozart, HD2, desire, HD7. They're all average in their leagues.
Samsung on the other hand does release phones with great camera quality. E.g. Wave, Omnia HD, Pixon 12.
However since they haven't released the phone or shown any sample pictures, guess it's too early to judge.

Kailkti said:
I'm not so sure about that part. HTC has never been known to release phones with great cameras. Average at best, but not great. E.g desire hd, Mozart, HD2, desire, HD7. They're all average in their leagues.
Samsung on the other hand does release phones with great camera quality. E.g. Wave, Omnia HD, Pixon 12.
However since they haven't released the phone or shown any sample pictures, guess it's too early to judge.
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Thought it was a joke when he said HTC has a better camera..
You are probably right about being early to judge Sensation but we're almost certain SGSII is coming with an awesome camera which is confirmed in most previews.

HTC the better camera? Perhaps a #sarcasm tag was needed before that.
In terms of whether the CPU/GPU is better, remains to be seen, there are benchmarks which show each one outperforming the other. Furthermore remains to be seen whether there is any difference in use, even if one is better than the other by a reasonable margin.

For me, I don't like the crappy cameras of HTC and their habbit of crippling great phones with underppwered batteries...I love my HD2 but I cannot forgive HTC for putting a 1230 mAh battery which barely manages to last through a working day!
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I rather go for a gs2 and root it
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Especially now that there is some evidence of the Bootloader being untouched just like the SGS I

Where's that evidence? Link?

If you just view the thread "Boot Load Lock and alternate ROMs", there is a discussion going on about this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12934988&postcount=76

Yesss I was right
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well if we had a port of sense on s2 that would be amazing

faddys123 said:
well if we had a port of sense on s2 that would be amazing
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As good as Sense looks it will be very difficult to port Sense over I guess! Certian aspects of sense are great such as the dialler, peoples app and the keyboard is nice as well.

faddys123 said:
well if we had a port of sense on s2 that would be amazing
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I already asked it in the sense thread, but why do people think sense 3.0 is so much better than TouschWiz 4.0?
/me thinks sense 3.0 looks like it is designed by Disney.......

blackheart2925 said:
For me, I don't like the crappy cameras of HTC and their habbit of crippling great phones with underppwered batteries...I love my HD2 but I cannot forgive HTC for putting a 1230 mAh battery which barely manages to last through a working day!
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Also the poor speakers! My DHD is terrible difficult to hear in noisy conditions for voice calls! Hopefully they can improve on that aspect...

Buy sensation or wait for Hercules

Is sensation really good ? Does it have problems like g2x ? I have mytouch 4G now. Not sure to wait for Samsung Hercules or get HTC sensation ? What would you guys do ? Please share

Obviously asking this question in the Sensation forum is going to be biased toward the Sensation. I'd get the Sensation....but I'm not you and don't know your situation.
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sofia-captivate said:
Is sensation really good ? Does it have problems like g2x ? I have mytouch 4G now. Not sure to wait for Samsung Hercules or get HTC sensation ? What would you guys do ? Please share
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I have the G2x and the Sensation and while they both have tremendous potential they both have multiple issues. I would wait for Hercules as I am going to sell one of the two or both and purchase the Hercules.

buy or wait?
There will always be a newer/better phone that will be out within 3 days, 3 weeks, 3 months of buying your next phone. You have to ask yourself a different question, which phone will have the features I need and will really use? If you are simply holding out for the best phone right now you will be disappointed and frustrated and not fully happy with your next purchase. I love the Sensation. I waited for months to get it and I am happy with my purchase. I have always rooted my android phones to use unavailable features on stock phones like; the wifi tethering with my laptop and tab. This is already built in and available the moment you buy it. ATT and Sprint and Verizon charge for this feature. BOOOOO! Good for T-Mo while it lasts. The phone is responsive, comes loaded with useful apps and widgets, it's sexy and fun to play with I have Netflix working on it (so do many others, I did not invent the wheel), hbo-go, and other streaming apps that work great on the sensation. The camera is decent enough for me not to carry a dedicated camera for photos and videos. For me, I use multimedia daily, and this phone meets my needs. I was buying every new phone that came out and was never satisfied. The sensation is a good buy, the hercules will be out in the next 2-3 months and by then there will be another phone with even better specs that will leave you drooling. I am sure it will be a great phone too.

I was really excited about the announcement of the Hercules and besides the GPS problem, I loved my Vibrant(wife has it now). But IMO, as nice as Sammys designs are(I don't like the design of the Sensation) they make the bezel too big.
My sensation is just as big as my Vibrant even though it has a 4.3 inch screen. I've always hated the added real estate which is why I chose the Sensation over the gx2. If the infuse is any idication of how big the Hercs going to be, I might pass on it and see what comes out next year. Besides, I love the weight of my HTC. I hated how light my Vibrant was even though that thing was literally indestructable.

First off ask yourself the question cause only you can decide ,if you like bland vanilla and super amolded screens then go with Samsung, if you like widgets and eye candy then sensation is the one ....all phones with this much horsepower have issues and I mean all ,once bootloader is unlocked on sensation you'll have the speed to go with the looks ,and if you're not interested in flashing then you still got a great device , but like mentioned earlier after the Hercules there will be something better 3 months later ,it will never end

simply put:
4.3" qHD >>>> 4.5" WVGA

So far all of the information leaked about the Hercules shows that its not using the exynos soc. Just some food for though. The waiting game does suck though because something better will come out after the Hercules. That's just the way it is.

Paging Dr B said:
So far all of the information leaked about the Hercules shows that its not using the exynos soc. Just some food for though. The waiting game does suck though because something better will come out after the Hercules. That's just the way it is.
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Yep, it's rumored to be using the APQ8060, which is the same as the MSM8260 without the integrated HSPA radio. This is probably because the Hercules will have 42 Mbps HSPA+ connectivity and it will need a separate radio for this and that the Exynos SoC is already in limited quantity (some SGS II variants will have the Tegra 2).

xnifex said:
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4.3" qHD >>>> 4.5" WVGA
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Which I why I got the Sensation. Pixel density FTW.
Cannot wait for the HTC unlock. Need to cleanse bloatware.

I love the resolution on this phone. Can't go wrong with qHD, it makes the Sensation that much more beautiful.
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I won't go with a Samsung again after having the vibrant. Samsung is the slowest company to come out with updates.
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The killer feature on the Hercules is that 42mbps speed. The usb radios that are out are getting speeds that rival Verizon's LTE.
On the down side (for me) is that with a 4.5 inch screen and that Samsung bezel it is going to be a huge phone - nudging into small tablet territory. Battery life will also be tricky.
At the moment I'm not willing to trade a great svelte HTC design for a faster Sammy slab. But we'll see when it comes out.
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Given some of the deals we've seen for the Sensation... I'd definitely lean in that direction. 4.5" is pushing it for me, and the qHD is nicer than I originally thought it would be.

I hope there will be good support from the community with custom Roms.. How are the chances for that to happen?

The Sensation is like the Desire... huge Dev support
It is a great Phone and there will be as much People like in the Desire section ... so much support from the Dev´s
The Sensation is just great! I would never take a samsung instead of an HTC.... Sense is too great and the bigger Resolution is so nice! You feel it very much and movies are just wow on this phone! And the Sound! Great!
Just a Multimedia Talent..... I would not wait if i am able to use this phone! I will never miss something like this phone!
Just great! There are little mistakes but Touch Wiz ist just crap!

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The killer feature on the Hercules is that 42mbps speed.
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Although it will technically be capable of those speeds, I doubt it will come anywhere near those speeds. The sensation should be able to hit 11Mbs theoretically but the fastest i've had it download was 7.9Mbs. I'm sure the Hercules will be closer to 11Mbs speeds in real world.

anjahl said:
I won't go with a Samsung again after having the vibrant. Samsung is the slowest company to come out with updates.
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They just updated half their Android line up to 2.3.4 in the past two months. They've updated the SGS2 four times and a fifth update to 2.3.4 is due out by the end of the month. There's a difference between getting updates directly from Samsung and having to be dependent on your U.S. carrier to get them out. The global Sensation's are being updated now. Let's see how long it takes T-Mobile to push the U.S. update.

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Although it will technically be capable of those speeds, I doubt it will come anywhere near those speeds. The sensation should be able to hit 11Mbs theoretically but the fastest i've had it download was 7.9Mbs. I'm sure the Hercules will be closer to 11Mbs speeds in real world.
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It should get 20 mbps with ease if you're in an area that supports that connectivity. T-Mobile demonstrated those type of speeds using a data stick.

soon there will be a samsung amoled hd screen soon and thats my new phone.

So whose all going to get sgs2 for T-Mobile??

Nice battery, big screen.
Wondering if there will be lack of development because its not going to be able to use the international roms if I'm right?
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I would, if I didn't have to pay out the wazoo for it lol. Hardware-wise, it'll smoke the Sensation 4G, well, except for resolution! But, even with that, it has the SAMOLED+ screen which is probably much better than ours (even though ours is pretty good).

I might wait till I find someone who gets sick if it and wants to trade for MT sensation. Lol
U never know I may get lucky. The sooner the better
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HTC build quality is much better, plus I'm an HTC loyalist. HTC phones always feel more solid and sturdy than the plasticky samsung phones. They're too light weight almost and feel like I could break them with my bear hands. I like the aluminum frame of the Sensation. I'm very happy with my sensation. SAMOLED screens are better in most cases, but I had a friend who owned a vibrant and that screen had an annoying blue tinge, as do most of the samoled screens I think. The screen I have has very pure whites and surprisingly dark blacks, and is fine in sunlight, especially compared to my old phone. I can read texts just fine in bright daylight, this screen is very bright. Plus the resolution is higher. I love the qHD screen.

I am day one....selling my sensation
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The nice thing about the T-Mobile sgs2 is its not plastic. Its brushed aluminum from the looks of it which is just gorgeous.
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The nice thing about the T-Mobile sgs2 is its not plastic. Its brushed aluminum from the looks of it which is just gorgeous.
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So the sgs2 is different than the sgs4g? I must be thinking of a different device. The sgs2 is the Samsung galaxy s two right?
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Ill be getting my s2 maybe trade my sensation on craigslist for one. There's always those people dam I wish ididnt get the s2.
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I'll be getting one but keeping the Sensation. I love that big screen and I'm not thrilled with HTC's build quality. Everything on my Sensation seems a little loose and shakey, but I'm curious to see what the dev's will do with it.

farfromovin said:
I would, if I didn't have to pay out the wazoo for it lol. Hardware-wise, it'll smoke the Sensation 4G, well, except for resolution! But, even with that, it has the SAMOLED+ screen which is probably much better than ours (even though ours is pretty good).
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Please elaborate how it would "smoke" the sensation hardware wise.

Sgs2 is Samsung galaxy uhh woops. Its sg2 lol.
The sgs4g was the virbrant plus flash and 4g. Single core.
Sg2 is dual core.
I like sense and I have feeling sense will only.get faster with upcoming roms but if it doesn't seem to get much better I'm definetly going sg2.
I'm not saying sense roms are slow now. They are really fast. Just not lightening fast.
QUOTE=MusicMan374;18103388]So the sgs2 is different than the sgs4g? I must be thinking of a different device. The sgs2 is the Samsung galaxy s two right?
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Why...
Are people on here so addicted to new tech that they will jump to another phone as soon as a new one comes out?
I got the phone I wanted on a 2yr contract knowing that in less than 6m it would be surpassed by something newer but not neccessarily better.
I like the Sensation and can't see me changing for the S2 espec as I would not be able to cover the cost of a sim-free version.
If I had wanted the S2 I would have got it and then lived with it for the life of my contract
The Sensation is not a perfect phone, but it's a darn good one (better than the iphone 3g) I came from.

I dont think the phone will be any faster than the sensation considering its not shipping with the exynos SOC/

So outta curiosity how truly good is cyanogenmod? Someone who really knows his stuff.
Cause I tried it on sensation just a bit ago and although yea it is quick it didn't blow me away. Went right back to sense.
Also deriving from what I mentikned up there I saw someone post something about a new nexus s being faster then cyanogenmod??
I mention this because one of my friends whose a girl and knows nkthig about phones had soooo much crap on the nexus s. It was the sprint version I believe. And with like three messaging apps all running, many different browsers, and seriusly a whole lotta crap the phone was sooooo fast.
I literally was stunned. It was stock and every single thing I did on it was instantaneous.
And u know when u see bunch of stuff in notification bar and u just kinda know it ll lag a bit. I felt that but was surprised with zero lag.
It sadly has me thinking...
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I'm planning to sell my Sensation and buy the Galaxy S2 once it's released for T-Mobile USA!

poopymt3g said:
I dont think the phone will be any faster than the sensation considering its not shipping with the exynos SOC/
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The Sensation has a higher resolution screen, and that hits performance because the phone has to push data to more pixels; also the Sensation and SG2 have similar processors (as you pointed out) but the Sensation runs at 1.2 MHz and the SG2 runs at 1.5 MHz.
ROMs aside, the SG2 is faster on paper.

MusicMan374 said:
HTC build quality is much better, plus I'm an HTC loyalist. HTC phones always feel more solid and sturdy than the plasticky samsung phones. They're too light weight almost and feel like I could break them with my bear hands. I like the aluminum frame of the Sensation. I'm very happy with my sensation. SAMOLED screens are better in most cases, but I had a friend who owned a vibrant and that screen had an annoying blue tinge, as do most of the samoled screens I think. The screen I have has very pure whites and surprisingly dark blacks, and is fine in sunlight, especially compared to my old phone. I can read texts just fine in bright daylight, this screen is very bright. Plus the resolution is higher. I love the qHD screen.
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I agree with you I have always like the HTC build quality but performance wise they have been lacking and the debacle the caused with the so called Bootloader unlock then say screw you no warranty was the icing on the cake. I came from a Evo 4g to the Sensation to the Epic 4G Touch resolution not a problem for me. the performance and smoothness of the OS what's going to appeal to the OS faithful that may come running seeing that Apple decided to give them nothing. this year basically all this hype and they got what would be a 3GS to the 4g lol.
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iftikar666 said:
Are people on here so addicted to new tech that they will jump to another phone as soon as a new one comes out?
I got the phone I wanted on a 2yr contract knowing that in less than 6m it would be surpassed by something newer but not neccessarily better.
I like the Sensation and can't see me changing for the S2 espec as I would not be able to cover the cost of a sim-free version.
If I had wanted the S2 I would have got it and then lived with it for the life of my contract
The Sensation is not a perfect phone, but it's a darn good one (better than the iphone 3g) I came from.
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I will give you that. I love HTC Sense as well but I believe that as of right now its to bloated and holding back what the processor is really capable of.
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well i got play with the Amaze a couple days ago and i can tell you for a fact that the processor is definately snappier in stock form , i was getting 2700 quadrant scores with it stock , now with that said i think the SGS2 will be alot faster running a more vanilla android, I am planning on getting a SGS2 and i cant believe im even saying that ,reason being is that the sensation is falling apart on me , the glass coverig my camera lens fell out and that wasnt a big deal to me until the rocker on the volume button fell off , now i dont know if flashing three thousand times already has something to do with it but im a little dissapointed by that. all being said i just want a bigger screen and thats the main reason plus it gets the better processor and front camera

Not me
I wanted an SGS2 bad enough to almost buy one from overseas unlocked when they first hit the market. But since Samsung decided to release it here last, there are new phones coming out before the end of the year that by far surpass the SGS2. America is the largest consumer of High-end smart phones (yes, i researched it) mainly because we constantly upgrade to the newest and best. Samsung was stupid to release it here last. If someone gave me an SGS2 in trade i'd do it, but it's not worth sinking more cash into a new SGS2 when quad-core is literally right around the corner. Plus phones like the Sharp Aquas and the Note (can't remember which company is making it) will be out in a few months and they surpass the SGS2 in speed, display, screen size, etc. (and these aren't event quad-core as far as the specs ive seen, but still better than the SGS2).
Anyways, that's my 2 cents. I'll be waiting for a Quad-core device with Ice Cream Sandwich. Plus, the PS vita is quad-core and you can make calls from it Better than PS3 graphics in the palm of my hand! Talk about a gaming device! hahahahah

which phone to upgrade to from nexus 1

I'm with tmobile with a rooted, unlocked, running CM7 nexus one.
I love it and have no issues with it, other then me needed to reboot it because of screen issues one a week/month.
Recently tmobile blocked off tzones on the n1. I see this as a chance to upgrade. Somewhat stuck to AWS bands and non tmobile branded phones. 2 strong competitors i found. Price difference and specs.
I'm looking at S710e (incredible S) and the Z710e (Sensation 4g). Z710e cost about $80-100 more then the S710e.
While i was 100% happy with my nexus one. Did what i wanted to do and average battery life, 3g speeds. I like the idea of a possible faster phone, and 4g speeds. Z710e is a dual core so it might be better battery life.
What would be a better upgrade for me? While i dont mind the price difference, i just wanted to know is one phone superior over the other.
Back in the day my mytouch3g was junk compared to the nexus one upgrade. So i'm thinking maybe the s710 is junk VS the Z710e, but not sure if $100 worth it.
Z710e is newer, should be more popular. Both are on CM's list of hackable phones. Let me know what you guy thinks and reason why you want to get one VS the other.

From personal experience, having owned both:
The Senation is newer, has a higher-resolution screen, more memory and a slightly better camera. It also has beefier internals and a slightly larger battery. I found the software experience a bit lacking, although there is loads of development for it now with some exceptional ROMs available.
The Incredible S is slightly smaller, with a less pixel-dense (but brighter and better in sunlight) screen and slower internals. I preferred the soft-touch painted finish of the Incredible S to that of the Sensation. While there isn't a lot of development for it, I found the 'stock' software experience much more pleasant on the Inc S. The camera is also ever-so-slightly superior to that on the Senny.
Don't base your decision solely on my judgement, I own quite a few phones though and good ones stick in my mind. The Incredible S is among my favourite HTC devices. There are many people who, conversely, swear by their Sensation.
Try them both out in the flesh if you can, although you may struggle to find an Inc S on display. Also ensure the Z710E supports AWS, I know it does 900/2100 but not sure about 1700.
If on-paper specs are your thing, the Sensation is obviously the better choice.
Best of luck with the decision

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I'm with tmobile with a rooted, unlocked, running CM7 nexus one.
I love it and have no issues with it, other then me needed to reboot it because of screen issues one a week/month.
Recently tmobile blocked off tzones on the n1. I see this as a chance to upgrade. Somewhat stuck to AWS bands and non tmobile branded phones. 2 strong competitors i found. Price difference and specs.
I'm looking at S710e (incredible S) and the Z710e (Sensation 4g). Z710e cost about $80-100 more then the S710e.
While i was 100% happy with my nexus one. Did what i wanted to do and average battery life, 3g speeds. I like the idea of a possible faster phone, and 4g speeds. Z710e is a dual core so it might be better battery life.
What would be a better upgrade for me? While i dont mind the price difference, i just wanted to know is one phone superior over the other.
Back in the day my mytouch3g was junk compared to the nexus one upgrade. So i'm thinking maybe the s710 is junk VS the Z710e, but not sure if $100 worth it.
Z710e is newer, should be more popular. Both are on CM's list of hackable phones. Let me know what you guy thinks and reason why you want to get one VS the other.
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I'm still using my N1 and wouldn't part with it, even for a free GN. I recently changed from CM7 to MIUI.us and it's given the old chap a new lease of life. It feels like a new device. It's prettier, faster and i haven't had one Touchscreen wonk with it yet. Why not try it yourself?
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The Sensation seems to be one of the better phones in terms of development, would definitely pick it up.
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I think I will vote for S710e (incredible S), because I now have one, and I like him very much, CM7'S rom, or others that are working well and stable
Z710e (Sensation 4g) with dual-core, but I'm not sure that a very large difference, because S710e also smooth running and lower the price to have him.
Of course, if you do not mind the price difference, I think you can choose Z710e to enjoy the larger screen.

i overlooked the most common sense upgrade, galaxy nexus.
prices i can get the phones for are
s710e = 350-$375
z710e = $450-480
Galaxy= $560-590
I'm not looking to go with other roms on my N1. Remember if it wasn't for my carrier blocking my internet, i would never even consider an upgrade. I was 90% happy with my n1. Screen issues that was resolved with me rebooting was about the only issue. I love my trackball. I used the nexus S at launch and gave that back.
The cheapest upgrade would be that incredible, gets me 4g speeds. I like that. I do want a galaxy but maybe at a $400 price point.