No honey for us :-( - G Tablet General

http://www.androidcentral.com/nvidia-stop-supporting-harmony-platform-past-froyo

Big deal. The people here at XDA will figure out a way to port Xoom ROM onto our devices later on.

qipengart said:
Big deal. The people here at XDA will figure out a way to port Xoom ROM onto our devices later on.
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yeh but they'll never have hardware accelerated graphics which means any gingerbread and/or honeycomb roms we get will all have choppy video problems

Read the general section here for the reason for the articles. We had members contacting all the major news outlets today about this issue.

qipengart said:
Big deal. The people here at XDA will figure out a way to port Xoom ROM onto our devices later on.
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The big deal is without Nvidia providing driver support, performance will be subpar compared to Froyo which has the drivers to provide hardware acceleration. We are already experiencing this with our Gingerbread ROMs for which Nvidia has not provided any drivers.

Isira said:
The big deal is without Nvidia providing driver support, performance will be subpar compared to Froyo which has the drivers to provide hardware acceleration. We are already experiencing this with our Gingerbread ROMs for which Nvidia has not provided any drivers.
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can someone clarify as to why new drivers need to be compiled for every android update?

sundar2012 said:
can someone clarify as to why new drivers need to be compiled for every android update?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=974522

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Gtablet gingerbread nvidia drivers available now..

http :// android.modaco.com/content/lg-optimus-2x-2x-modaco-com/338920/6-may-v20c-gingerbread-rom-leak-for-the-t-mobile-g2x/ is the new tmobile beta release for the G2x which has the drivers for ginger in it. Just wanted to give it to the devs so they can make use of it.
Awesome!!!! Go gojimi
Awesome. Very good news.
It looks to me like that leak is a rom for a phone. Does anyone know if it is based on the harmony tegra 2 chip like the gtab? If so, then this may be really great news.....
I'll hold off my excitement until someone who knows better can chime in and confirm.
G2x has the harmony chipset its a Tmobile phone suppose to be getting ginger from a OTA update in a few months. Essentially the same drivers we use are compatible with this phone so that means there is our ginger drivers.
I remember they have source codes for the driver already, just need to integrate, if I am not wrong.
Unless they just got it because nvidia still hasnt released them to the public. Thats what the fuss was about for the past month.
dynamicj said:
Unless they just got it because nvidia still hasnt released them to the public. Thats what the fuss was about for the past month.
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cannot remember the exact news source,
fyr
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13510312&postcount=1085
I stand corrected from what I seen I never knew they recieved the acceleration drivers for it.
haymant said:
cannot remember the exact news source,
fyr
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13510312&postcount=1085
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I think CM7 only has hacked drivers ( reverse engineered), not the originals from Nvidia.
So this phone IS harmony based...... OK....I am a wee bit excited.
JUST A WEE!!
This is what I love about this community, XDA is about information.
Information is the drug of today's society and no one brings it faster than the collective.
I was thinking maybe on the way of hacked up drivers because my quadrant score is retarded low on cmod7.0.3
Kinda curious why none of the devs commented on this yet. wonder if were high hoping for nothing....
Thread title isn't really accurate. We have a rom from the gx2 that should contain the drivers we need. So far I don't think we have the drivers yet, not until someone with the skills has the chance to tear them out of that rom dump and get them working.
That didn't I can't wait, it's the only thing keeping me from running cm7

Sensation gets 2.3.4 when do we???

I know we just got 2.3.3 but I'm just wandering why they getting an update so fast and who knows when we will get another one
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Probably never, there are rumors of the g2x getting ICS 4.0 sometime, although that is highly unlikely. You can try out CM7 for 2.3.5.
What he said
LG and T-Mobile won't come out with any updates. LG releasing the source code, they abandoned support.
XDA is only reason this phone gets any kind of love and support.
There is hardly anything noticeable between 2.3.3, 2.3.4, and 2.3.5.
If you want a newer version, do a custom rom. I can't understand why people, on XDA especially, fight so hard to stay on a stock rom that is old and lacking. My neighbor bought a G2x the other day and I NVFlashed his phone in like 4 minutes (mostly due to downloading and finding the XDA thread for the NVFlasher).
Gingerbread is available in a plethera of roms for our device. I'd much rather LG focus their efforts on a timely ICS release.
I just wish nvidia would release drivers. I would love a2dp on the newer roms
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Mister Hat said:
Probably never, there are rumors of the g2x getting ICS 4.0 sometime, although that is highly unlikely. You can try out CM7 for 2.3.5.
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What information are you basing this on? I don't have any proof that you're wrong, but then again I don't believe you have any proof that you're right either.
player911 said:
I'd much rather LG focus their efforts on a timely ICS release.
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I agree completely. This hardware won't be outaded any time soon. It has a lot of power. Hopefully LG will do a better job with the next update.
phburks said:
I agree completely. This hardware won't be outaded any time soon. It has a lot of power. Hopefully LG will do a better job with the next update.
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I hope we don't get 2.3.4 or 2.3.6 if that comes. I want LG to just focus on getting out 2.4 as near as available as possible. All the learning from vanilla with driver fixes should make 2.4 a snap.
At this point nothing about 2.3 any variants makes any difference after 2.3.3
The G2X vanilla should easily be able to handle Android 4, or 2.4 whatever its named sandwich. The hardware is spec. And should be able to get onto the next version after Ice Cream, at that time it will be like a basic model that can still easily support.
I am expecting 2 more full releases on the phone, as the cost for LG to do, with the drivers worked out, should be very minimal.
Worse case, LG can license a custom ROM, and toss that out for a couple hundred K. 2 man years cost.
jnralp00 said:
I just wish nvidia would release drivers. I would love a2dp on the newer roms
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i dont understand what is that if nvidia releases driver, whats a2dp is?
gypsy214 said:
i dont understand what is that if nvidia releases driver, whats a2dp is?
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Bluetooth = a2dp
gypsy214 said:
i dont understand what is that if nvidia releases driver, whats a2dp is?
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Streaming audio via bluetooth
That's what she said...
even though
tombaker1 said:
I hope we don't get 2.3.4 or 2.3.6 if that comes. I want LG to just focus on getting out 2.4 as near as available as possible. All the learning from vanilla with driver fixes should make 2.4 a snap.
At this point nothing about 2.3 any variants makes any difference after 2.3.3
The G2X vanilla should easily be able to handle Android 4, or 2.4 whatever its named sandwich. The hardware is spec. And should be able to get onto the next version after Ice Cream, at that time it will be like a basic model that can still easily support.
I am expecting 2 more full releases on the phone, as the cost for LG to do, with the drivers worked out, should be very minimal.
Worse case, LG can license a custom ROM, and toss that out for a couple hundred K. 2 man years cost.
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It is nice to see you post something other than the CAL... if you really think LG is gonna release anything other than maybe a small updae which i also doubt. maybe youll join with the CAL.. This is it even LG has said they dont even plan on bringing out the camera appp which i thought they would at least do.
As burk said no proof either way. But history means a lot and sicne this debacle i have looked at lg and see this has been nothing new with them. and Updates have been only carrier pushed for bugs from what i have read.
Yes it would be nice to see something new and great for the phone from LG but dont hold your breath.
hmmm
I would rather LG focus on getting all the bugs fix with this phone rather than releaseing a new os version for it plauged with the same issues and froyo and gingerbread
My neighbor bought an airplane... I need to get a spaceship...
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i only want them to give us 2.3.4 because of gtalk video chat.. other then that i can careless. i know we can get it with custom roms but i actually love the stock rooted gingerbread rom. this is the only time i actually love the stock rom lol
s10shane said:
i only want them to give us 2.3.4 because of gtalk video chat.. other then that i can careless. i know we can get it with custom roms but i actually love the stock rooted gingerbread rom. this is the only time i actually love the stock rom lol
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Wouldn't actually work since gtalk works using NEON which our processors don't have. I haven't tried the alternatives (like vtalk our vtok, something like that) but they don't apparently work well. google has to fix it unless there's been a development I missed.
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After the fiasco of 2.3.3, LG is never going to touch this phone ever again. It's dead in the water for all they care, and Tmo isn't going to pressure them into updating because they're focused on pimping the Sensation right now.
CyanogenMod is the only way this phone will ever see ICS, I would put money on that.
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Danishswag said:
Wouldn't actually work since gtalk works using NEON which our processors don't have. I haven't tried the alternatives (like vtalk our vtok, something like that) but they don't apparently work well. google has to fix it unless there's been a development I missed.
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Vtok has been working well with me. Gtalk mod works but with back camera.
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LordButtersI said:
After the fiasco of 2.3.3, LG is never going to touch this phone ever again. It's dead in the water for all they care, and Tmo isn't going to pressure them into updating because they're focused on pimping the Sensation right now.
CyanogenMod is the only way this phone will ever see ICS, I would put money on that.
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Because of some impatient g2x owners.
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jose makalolot said:
Because of some impatient g2x owners.
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No, because they don't know what the hell they are doing.

What happened to the ICS port?

There was an ICS port being worked on that was really close (only really needed sound/data working to be a working rom). But then the thread got locked, is that still being worked on? Just curious cause I was really looking forward to trying it out
Some people was being impatience and creating drama, so the op requested thread to be locked and stated, he will only release when port is complete.
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It would be great to still get updates on the whole process. It's a sad thing when developers can't develop publicly, but I understand completely why they closed that thread.
I guess CM9 is always waiting in the wings, but having an AOSP version is great too. Hopefully they'll still be willing to release it to the public.
i have a feeling LG is going to give us ICS faster than the developers of cm9/the devs porting the ICS rom.. the reason is because cyanogenmod wont release ics without camera working and i doubt they have it working now or are even working on it anymore..
We need LG to release ICS, or more precisely we need nVidia to give us ICS drivers. Without those ICS won't run any better than gingerbread and you'd be better off just skinning GB.
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LordButtersI said:
We need LG to release ICS, or more precisely we need nVidia to give us ICS drivers. Without those ICS won't run any better than gingerbread and you'd be better off just skinning GB.
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They have hardware acceleration working so I don't know why you think this is the case, I'm sure we'll have CM9 for the G2X before we have an official update from LG
loganmc10 said:
They have hardware acceleration working so I don't know why you think this is the case
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I'm more concerned with multi threaded processing, that's something that can only be done with driver support.
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LordButtersI said:
I'm more concerned with multi threaded processing, that's something that can only be done with driver support.
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Do we even have any apps that actually NEED multithread atm? I still havnt seen a game that makes me lag so far, and I am only running GB....(weapon G2X 3.0)
CM9
CM9 has been released! Using it right now, it's got very few bugs, but definitely a DD.
Jonphinguyen7 said:
CM9 has been released! Using it right now, it's got very few bugs, but definitely a DD.
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Maybe its just a "few bugs" to you but those few bugs greatly impact my use of my phone Video isnt working!!! Bluetooth isnt working either

(Q)ICS rom

In theory wouldn't we be able to take an ics Rom from the prime, get drivers working for our tegra to achieve hardware acceleration? Not completely sure of the differences between both devices other than the processor.
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It would take time in order for developers to translate the drivers.
Put it this way. It would be quicker, and easier, to wait even a month for the TF101 to receive ICS rather than trying to translate from the Prime to the TF101.
Rumor mill has it that the TF101 will be receiving ICS at the end of the month.
I heard a rumor about an ICS rom already out there on the web, but that's just a rumor. You have to ask yourself if it's worth it to risk your tablet's life or just wait a month. Don't do like me...
Fellas, they're already working on porting the Motorola xoom's ICS over to the TF101 as we speak. Working out a few bugs now, could possibly be here before the official ICS build if noobs will quit asking them how to flash the unfinished product and other development-unrelated questions (in other words, have a peek, but don't bug the big guys at work )
BTW TF201 has the Tegra 3, while Xoom has a tegra 2..much easier to port from what I understand..so don't hold your breath on the Prime's ICS coming to roost on your OG TF any time soon..
I saw something from Asus that said we won't be getting it until February. I'll be looking forward to the Xoom port!
brando56894 said:
I saw something from Asus that said we won't be getting it until February. I'll be looking forward to the Xoom port!
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I personnally think it's stupid to take risks to get what you can get in one month, in a more adapted way. Who knows! Maybe you'll end up bricking your device...
Xoom has most of the same hardware....so they're just taking the items that aren't for our device and replacing them with proper drivers.
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Horclok said:
I personnally think it's stupid to take risks to get what you can get in one month, in a more adapted way. Who knows! Maybe you'll end up bricking your device...
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For one, it isn't a risk once the devs have gotten it right to flash if you know what you are doing, there will have been 100 people who flashed the ROM repeatedly while testing before you ever gt your hands on it.
Second point- the official ICS update will almost surely take some time to Root, if your device wasn't rooted before the update, and no such problem will exist with a dev ICS ROM since it will be rooted in the source.
Final point- ICS is ICS, if the hardware works, and software functions, there isn't much difference between the official build and a ported build, except for the ported build is at the mercy of the devs to put whatever goodies and extras the official ICS build didn't include..
ICS official = wait and get stuck without root
ICS dev ROM = be here soon and have root + extras.
Which one do you prefer now?
Horclok said:
I personnally think it's stupid to take risks to get what you can get in one month, in a more adapted way. Who knows! Maybe you'll end up bricking your device...
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Outside of proprietary hardware drivers, I have yet to see an OEM ROM exceed performance of a community ROM. OEMs have nowhere near the amount of people working on their ROMs as a community version, and nowhere near the amount of eyes checking for bugs.
Cheers!
-M
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luna_c666 said:
For one, it isn't a risk once the devs have gotten it right to flash if you know what you are doing, there will have been 100 people who flashed the ROM repeatedly while testing before you ever gt your hands on it.
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There is always a risk when you flash a rom, always. Now I had your opinion before I bricked my device, and I knew what I was doing. Then again, you have to choose between security and variety.
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Outside of proprietary hardware drivers, I have yet to see an OEM ROM exceed performance of a community ROM. OEMs have nowhere near the amount of people working on their ROMs as a community version, and nowhere near the amount of eyes checking for bugs.
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This is so true. Even if the OTA ICS update were to be released, I would still wait for a Dev to mess around with it before I updated. Call me crazy, but I'm not a fan of OEM skins and their performance is always lacking.
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There is always a risk when you flash a rom, always. Now I had your opinion before I bricked my device, and I knew what I was doing. Then again, you have to choose between security and variety.
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How did you get a brick? Flash failed halfway through or something? I've probably flashed 100 ROMs, from xbox to android, the only device I ever bricked was a windows phone, and its just soft bricked now. I didn't know what I was doing with that thing...I've had plenty of close calls don't get me wrong, heck I lifted up a trace on my xbox motherboard and had to repair it on the spot with solder within 10 minutes or the clock-capacitor would have discharged forcing me into clock-loops (death for an xbox)..'know what you're doing' has very different levels of complexity
There is always a risk, to be sure, I should have worded myself better. But the same amount of risk as any ROM, not specific to this one..I've never heard of an OTA update failing and bricking a device, but I'm sure it can happen as well..anytime you are flashing onboard firmware there's always a chance something can go wrong. I was just saying that a Dev rom will have been flashed and booted and reflashed 100 or 1000 times by the devs during the build process before any of us 'outsiders' gets a taste of it. In my opinion, that's about as risk-free as it gets with modding these things..and in the end, who is going to upgrade to ICS without wanting it rooted? At least, who on this site?
I feel much more confident loading an already rooted ICS rom from the community than I do flashing the OTA update and wondering if I'm going to lose root/recovery etc. It is a personal opinion though..
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I feel much more confident loading an already rooted ICS rom from the community than I do flashing the OTA update and wondering if I'm going to lose root/recovery etc. It is a personal opinion though..
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This.
OEM updates of any kind are more known for borking a system than a community version and again, it is because there are many more eyes on a community version. OEM versions are seen as a necessary evil for them. The life cycle of the product is usually over or already over and they do not want to devote any resources to an endeavour that now only costs money instead of makes money.
Asus may be a little different with the TF101 because they still are selling a fair amount of them. Best Buy still keeps restocking the 16GB version and with the TF201 problems they may push the TF101 as a sort of "budget premium" since ICS completely re-invigorates older hardware (my Atrix is running an alpha build without OC and GPU accel and it is just as smooth as full GPU and OC).
I still plan on waiting for Gnufabio's ICS Revolver release.
Cheers!
-M
Xda member since 2007
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I still plan on waiting for Gnufabio's ICS Revolver release.7
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I just tingled at the thought.
ICS does breathe a lot of new life in to old hardware. My old Incredible runs it fairly smoothly, just laggs a bit on transitions. But it did make me more interested in my old phone.

[Q] Hardware acceleration works on SINGH-MIUI?

I recently saw a port of ICS, but ppl where talking about the fact that it does not support hardware acceleration. This made me wonder: i am using SINGH-MIUI - does this rom supports hardware acceleration?
I obviously would prefer a ROM that takes advantage of the phone's capabilities.
Thank you
benyben123 said:
I recently saw a port of ICS, but ppl where talking about the fact that it does not support hardware acceleration. This made me wonder: i am using SINGH-MIUI - does this rom supports hardware acceleration?
I obviously would prefer a ROM that takes advantage of the phone's capabilities.
Thank you
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I asked the exact same question last night lol. Sadly the answer is no Our GB dont support hardware acceleration, unlike the SGS2 version. From what I've collected, we have to wait till CM9 is completed, or LG/Nvidia release more code before we have a real hardware accelerated rom. As much as I want it as well, I am afraid I must tell you to just sit tight and wait
MIUI does not support hardware acceleration. I hope that answers your questions. Thanks.
nycelitemaster said:
MIUI does not support hardware acceleration. I hope that answers your questions. Thanks.
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Thanks! It does. But still I would like to know - which ROM DOES support this feature? Also, would you recommend sticking to a rom that does, or do you deem it not so necessary?
benyben123 said:
Thanks! It does. But still I would like to know - which ROM DOES support this feature? Also, would you recommend sticking to a rom that does, or do you deem it not so necessary?
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I THINK the new cm9 beta support hardware acceleration, although it is still kinda buggy. I had to revert back to weapon after testing it for 2 days since video and bluetooth doesnt work.
Yeah, only ROM that has HA is CM9 or any other ICS ROM. Although currently, CM9's HA is just a dirty hack as they can't implement real HA because nVidia won't release their driver source. I have no idea if CM team will ever be able to reverse engineer HA, but what I've learned is that we should never doubt CyanogenMod.

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