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MT4G to be launched in Canada as HTC Emerald /w Android 2.3 + HTC Sense

http://www.androidbugle.com/2011/04/htc-glaciermytouch-4g-to-hit-mobilicity.html
Once system dumps are obtained, maybe a 100% compatible HTC Sense 2.3 ROM can be cooked?

Taknarosh said:
http://www.androidbugle.com/2011/04/htc-glaciermytouch-4g-to-hit-mobilicity.html
Once system dumps are obtained, maybe a 100% compatible HTC Sense 2.3 ROM can be cooked?
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You can be 100% sure that the dev won't let this past. Looks like our updates to GB looks alot better now hehe
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epsix said:
You can be 100% sure that the dev won't let this past. Looks like our updates to GB looks alot better now hehe
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Yeah, hopefully this allows for a bug-free Gingerbread/Sense ROM on our mt4g's.

I take away two things from this. First, it shows just how much T-Mobile SUCKS. Why they insist on having a fugly, customized (read bastardized) version of Sense on their HTC phones. Second, why they can't come out with a Gingerbread update in a timely manner is beyond me. The EVO will have Gingerbread in two months, and that phone isn't near as powerful and came out long before the MT4G! Rant over.
This is actually awesome news. This could give us the kernel source we've been waiting for forever, in addition to a ROM that can be directly ported (much like the Desire HD ROMs).

TeeJay3800 said:
I take away two things from this. First, it shows just how much T-Mobile SUCKS. Why they insist on having a fugly, customized (read bastardized) version of Sense on their HTC phones. Second, why they can't come out with a Gingerbread update in a timely manner is beyond me. The EVO will have Gingerbread in two months, and that phone isn't near as powerful and came out long before the MT4G! Rant over.
This is actually awesome news. This could give us the kernel source we've been waiting for forever, in addition to a ROM that can be directly ported (much like the Desire HD ROMs).
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Actually the mt4g will get gingerbread, its been confirmed by tmonews!

smooth3d said:
Actually the mt4g will get gingerbread, its been confirmed by tmonews!
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Yes I know, that's why in my second paragraph I express my happiness about that development.

i think he means mt4g us is getting an ota update, could be wrong though.

darinmc said:
i think he means mt4g us is getting an ota update, could be wrong though.
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If it takes till June the Mobilicity HTC Emerald will hopefully be out before then.
And it's running the nicer (IMO) version of Sense!

2.3 is already scheduled for Q2
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I love tmobile's twist on sense, I never stay on another ROM (Cyanogen, Desire ports, or anything) cuz they're not like our stock sense. Even if it compromises speed/memory or something, I doubt it's not much what with all the power our phone has. Just my opinion, so an official tmobile release is gonna be rad!
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Taknarosh said:
If it takes till June the Mobilicity HTC Emerald will hopefully be out before then.
And it's running the nicer (IMO) version of Sense!
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Doesn't matter if Canada have new sense its still sense 2.1 we have alot of roms running Sense 2.1. We just need the kernel and the lib so we can fix all Sense 2.3.3
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epsix said:
Doesn't matter if Canada have new sense its still sense 2.1 we have alot of roms running Sense 2.1. We just need the kernel and the lib so we can fix all Sense 2.3.3
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Good point, yeah all you need is the kernel. Point is it will be out before the update is pushed to T-Mo users.

theres a new ROM now that has the 2.3 update .

http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/05/11/a...ail-at-mobilicity-for-499-99-launch-imminent/
They'll be calling it the HTC "Panache".
I noticed the Genius button is gone, back to a plain old search button.
I hope they don't lock down this variant as stringently as the Incredible S. I wonder if there's any hardware differences that'd make it incompatible with a RUU from the MT4G?
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I'm currently using the ROM right now and I think it runs great.
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AndrewAD3 said:
I'm currently using the ROM right now and I think it runs great.
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Stock Sense is less hungry than Mysense/espresso IMHO. Mysense has genius plus other crap in the background compared to stock so it uses more ram.

Ace42 said:
Stock Sense is less hungry than Mysense/espresso IMHO. Mysense has genius plus other crap in the background compared to stock so it uses more ram.
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Sense has to be the most streamlined custom UI out there.

eliasadrian said:
I love tmobile's twist on sense, I never stay on another ROM (Cyanogen, Desire ports, or anything) cuz they're not like our stock sense. Even if it compromises speed/memory or something, I doubt it's not much what with all the power our phone has. Just my opinion, so an official tmobile release is gonna be rad!
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Aosp is quite a bit faster and leaner. Phone runs well on stock sense but I've been on cm7 for 5 months and I'm not looking back.
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HTC Panache Rom
You can install this rom from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079091
Is the Stock version of HTC Panache / HTC Emerald of Canada.
Work Great!
If you want to install the Royal Panache with a few mods ...
Install from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074783

MT4G Gingerbread update coming soon according to HTC rep

http://www.tmonews.com/2011/04/mytouch-4g-gingerbread-update-coming-soon/

Can't wait, new roms will hopefully come in droves after this

cool..too bad I've been using gingerbread for the past couple of months now! So far so good!

Damn it, you beat me to it!

Well, 2Q 2011 ended 11 days ago. I'll believe it when I see it. Actually, I won't ever see it because I'm now using Virtuous Unity. Hot stuff I tell you. And it doesn't have all the pre-loaded crapware T-Mobile adds into the ROM.
The Nexus One spoiled me. I tried to keep my MT4G stock as long as possible. I'm surprised I made it 6 months on the stock MT4G ROM. Once you root and flash a gazillion different ROMs, stock is definitely and simply boring.

hldc1 said:
Well, 2Q 2011 ended 11 days ago. I'll believe it when I see it. Actually, I won't ever see it because I'm now using Virtuous Unity. Hot stuff I tell you. And it doesn't have all the pre-loaded crapware T-Mobile adds into the ROM.
The Nexus One spoiled me. I tried to keep my MT4G stock as long as possible. I'm surprised I made it 6 months on the stock MT4G ROM. Once you root and flash a gazillion different ROMs, stock is definitely and simply boring.
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i agree i got it too and its the best rom i have ever used i dont think im gonna go to another one

I saw on engaget today that the new MT4G slide will have gingerbread, sense 3.0 and some sort of new slick camera software. Curious if we'll get the same rom or not...

fastredponycar said:
I saw on engaget today that the new MT4G slide will have gingerbread, sense 3.0 and some sort of new slick camera software. Curious if we'll get the same rom or not...
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Hahahaha! Keep dreamin. Don't forget that the doubleshot has more than twice the processing power of the glacier. Sense 2.1 was already pushing it with the bloatware T-mobile added. Sense 3.0 is even worse.
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fastredponycar said:
I saw on engaget today that the new MT4G slide will have gingerbread, sense 3.0 and some sort of new slick camera software. Curious if we'll get the same rom or not...
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Of course not the hardware on that thing is the same as Sensation....We get Espresso, check out the leaked GB ROM for our phones, that's what we're getting. There's a doubleshot rom from the MT4GS here too if you wanna taste of 3.0 on that phone. Ginger for us will look just like froyo, no fancy 3D effects for older single core phones.

Ace42 said:
Of course not the hardware on that thing is the same as Sensation....We get Espresso, check out the leaked GB ROM for our phones, that's what we're getting. There's a doubleshot rom from the MT4GS here too if you wanna taste of 3.0 on that phone. Ginger for us will look just like froyo, no fancy 3D effects for older single core phones.
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You are correct. The Gingerbread leak from early May looks identical to 2.2.1. The only big change/addition was the inclusion of the Quick Settings tab in the notification pulldown. I believe the leaked build had Sense 2.1. Pretty much going to have to rely on XDA if you want Sense 3.0 on your MT4G.
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I never FULLY realized how bad sense was, but this weekend I played around with a sensation and it is horribly laggy. My cyanogen glacier blows it out of the water. Even things like un locking the phone produced noticeable lag
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dung8604 said:
I never FULLY realized how bad sense was, but this weekend I played around with a sensation and it is horribly laggy. My cyanogen glacier blows it out of the water. Even things like un locking the phone produced noticeable lag
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I rooted and loaded Virtuous Unity last night. It uses sense 3.0 and it's smooth as silk.

fastredponycar said:
I rooted and loaded Virtuous Unity last night. It uses sense 3.0 and it's smooth as silk.
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Its not slow like the sensations stock ROM through, it has many changes, if we use the stock sensation Rom it would be laggy.
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I've been testing the Gingerbread update and was going to post some screenshots, but apparently I need to have at least 8 posts before I can do so per the rules of the forums here.
I don't want to spam the forums here to hit some limit, but when I hit the magical 8 posts, I'll submit a post with images of the update.

So if i were to unroot to check out the update when its released i would have to root a completly different way? I had to gfree cause of the locked bootloader on the mt4g that i bought. Since my phone has the "bad emmc" I was thinking that using stock for a couple months til the phone dies would be a safe gamble.

What gingerbread update your talking about? We haven't got an ota, just the leak.
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I've been testing the Gingerbread update and was going to post some screenshots, but apparently I need to have at least 8 posts before I can do so per the rules of the forums here.
I don't want to spam the forums here to hit some limit, but when I hit the magical 8 posts, I'll submit a post with images of the update.
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chem.manish said:
What gingerbread update your talking about? We haven't got an ota, just the leak.
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Read the link in the op.
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eqjunkie829 said:
Read the link in the op.
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I know what the thread is about. You may wanna read my question again.
Again, the question is whether joedonh is from tmo and thats how he is testing the upgrade or whether he is working on leaked version which everyone here has access to. Later is most likely not the case but just want to confirm.

Some Tmo employees have been selected to test the official GB rom. I imagine it is just as bad as the froyo build. it is still a "stock" rom so i am sure it is full of bloatware...

chem.manish said:
I know what the thread is about. You may wanna read my question again.
Again, the question is whether joedonh is from tmo and thats how he is testing the upgrade or whether he is working on leaked version which everyone here has access to. Later is most likely not the case but just want to confirm.
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If he is an employee with T-mobile then he'd be breaking the NDA that they have to sign when getting phones or updates before the public. It's also against T-mobile policy. I wouldn't take the chance of it getting back to T-mobile and losing my job to show off a screen shot.

Android 2.3.7?

i seen this on xda news and wondered if anyone has been pushed this?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-2-3-7-hits-the-streets/

Havent heard 2.3.6 yet?
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joshndroid said:
i seen this on xda news and wondered if anyone has been pushed this?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-2-3-7-hits-the-streets/
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I'm wondering too when 2.3.7 is gonna be available for the sensation... Haven't seen anything online about it yet. Mostly just the Nexus

I waited for a thread like that xD
Have a wait we dont have 2.3.5 yet and HTC cant be so fast

Exactly, 2.3.5 isn't officially out yet so we're gonna have to wait a while yet!

crawl before you walk

2.3.7??????????????????

Still waiting on official 2.3.5!

considering we just got a leak of 2.3.5 with sense 3.5 i wouldnt expect 2.3.7 anytime soon if at all, unless it plugs the security gap found a few days ago

We may get it on cm7. Cm is running 2.3.7 on the thunderbolt.
.7 is only support for Google wallet.
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who cares about 2.3.7 when theres gonna be 2.4?

what about 2.3.6?
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stanleynhan said:
who cares about 2.3.7 when theres gonna be 2.4?
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THIS!
10 Char.

stanleynhan said:
who cares about 2.3.7 when theres gonna be 2.4?
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Not that it really matters, but it'll probably be 4.0, wont it? It's just a number, but since it's merging tablets and phones and tablets are already at 3.X, calling it 2.4 would give them the impression that they're downgrading. And giving separate version numbers for the two systems would defeat the purpose of 1 OS for all form factors.

Xlythe said:
Not that it really matters, but it'll probably be 4.0, wont it? It's just a number, but since it's merging tablets and phones and tablets are already at 3.X, calling it 2.4 would give them the impression that they're downgrading. And giving separate version numbers for the two systems would defeat the purpose of 1 OS for all form factors.
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Phones are 2.4
Tablets are 4.0
The version number shouldn't be a problem since 4 is included in both
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Or they Do it like 2 (phones) + 3 (tablets) = 5.
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stanleynhan said:
who cares about 2.3.7 when theres gonna be 2.4?
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well considering they will probably push these before ICS for sensation... wouldnt it matter for these to hurry up then ? lol

stanleynhan said:
who cares about 2.3.7 when theres gonna be 2.4?
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+ 1,
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stanleynhan said:
who cares about 2.3.7 when theres gonna be 2.4?
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Who says we'll officially get 2.4??

It is all the same crap..they havent even changed some of the icons..

ICS Confirmed for Early 2012

https://www.facebook.com/notes/htc/...pgrades-to-ice-cream-sandwi/10150518462703084
We are getting ICS early 2012

darn, that's so far away... :/
i hope the xda community will provide a working one earlier than that.

Thanks to the sense interface wich is mostly adapted by google in ICS HTC needs to rewrite everything and we are getting delayed updates.
Pretty bothersome actually

Good News! Hope that there is no delay this time!

due to Gargle releasing source in the next weeks we'll get to experience ICS AOSP goodness via CM9 before the official HTC update.
CM9 is going to take a while too to be released for Sensation even after AOSP gets the new source....maybe we get a build around Christmas?

Awesome! Thanks for posting Def will not root now.

very exciting for us Sensation users.

Before this probably will be some leaks with ICS

Artur_q77 said:
Before this probably will be some leaks with ICS
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what's your point? there already are leaks with ics......

It's gonna be long.

FnH84 said:
what's your point? there already are leaks with ics......
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Yes, is it, but is not from htc with sense ui.
We have leak with Sense UI 3.5, and we will get leak with Sense UI on ICS. Do You understand now?

zerozoneice said:
due to Gargle releasing source in the next weeks we'll get to experience ICS AOSP goodness via CM9 before the official HTC update.
CM9 is going to take a while too to be released for Sensation even after AOSP gets the new source....maybe we get a build around Christmas?
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Why do people make excessively optimistic posts like this? We've had CM7 for roughly 2 months now and it's still in the alpha stage. If it takes them this long to build a ROM for the Sensation on a version of Android that was around for long before the Sensation came out, why would it be any quicker for them to build a ROM for the Sensation on a new version of Android?

Maybe because cm7 is not officially supported for sensation and cm9 might be?
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Why do people make excessively optimistic posts like this? We've had CM7 for roughly 2 months now and it's still in the alpha stage. If it takes them this long to build a ROM for the Sensation on a version of Android that was around for long before the Sensation came out, why would it be any quicker for them to build a ROM for the Sensation on a new version of Android?
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What abt NFC, will we get it i means from dev.

Yup, they (Devs) will come to your place and will solder nfc chip in. .
fayezkhan555 said:
What abt NFC, will we get it i means from dev.
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tinky1 said:
Yup, they (Devs) will come to your place and will solder nfc chip in. .
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HA HA HA HA HA HA HA as I fall out of my chair laughing, that was so hilarius.

tinky1 said:
Maybe because cm7 is not officially supported for sensation and cm9 might be?
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CM7 will be official on the Sensation, but before it can be folded into the "Nightly Builds" it needs to get out of Alpha status.
Why would CM9 be quick? Because unless I missed something *huge* Google did not change how the drivers work, which are going to be the same (more or less) as they are in CM7.
So if CM7 works, CM9 won't take much to make work.
Simple.

T-Macgnolia said:
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA as I fall out of my chair laughing, that was so hilarius.
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Hey...don't laugh at me i am sorry for that stupid question but i didn't understood google's nfc technology. I think it is a software which may be supported by our sensation

Did anyone else get an update from
tmobile today? Because I did but I don't know what it was for
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fayezkhan555 said:
Hey...don't laugh at me i am sorry for that stupid question but i didn't understood google's nfc technology. I think it is a software which may be supported by our sensation
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I was not laughing at you, I was laughing at what tink1 posted. He cracked me up.

HTC will not give the Desire HD ICS

Does this mean use tbolt users will not get it? I mean come on...our phone are based from on the Desire HD
Check this out
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-desire-hd-stay-current-software-no-ics-update
And if u guys go into the Desire HD forum , there is a petition ... Go sign it!
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vader540is said:
Does this mean use tbolt users will not get it? I mean come on...our phone are based from on the Desire HD
Check this out
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-desire-hd-stay-current-software-no-ics-update
And if u guys go into the Desire HD forum , there is a petition ... Go sign it!
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I highly doubt it will affect Thunderbolt users, so I wouldn't really worry about it.
Besides, they REALLY owe it to us. Haha.
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Same hardware as desire hd, don't be surprised when they cancel this too.
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Didn't HTC already confirm the TB for an upgrade?

HTC didn't cancel the Desire update, Canadian carrier Tellus canceled it due to bad performance. Even with Tellus jumping the gun and canceling the update, HTC has said it would move forward with developing updates for all Desire models.
Quite frankly this is a big part of the problem, instead of the carrier pushing HTC to do better and not accepting failure, they decided to screw their customers.
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Seems like we at still officially on. They updated it with the desire crossed out, but thunderbolt still showing
http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
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I hope Verizon does not cop out like these guys did... I really want 4.0 or help, for get ICS how about some jelly bean? That project butter is badass its faster and smoother then my buddies iPhone4s ,any good builds for jellybean yet? With all working radios etc... Cause if we don't get ICS soon...I'm just gonna root...
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vader540is said:
I hope Verizon does not cop out like these guys did... I really want 4.0 or help, for get ICS how about some jelly bean? That project butter is badass its faster and smoother then my buddies iPhone4s ,any good builds for jellybean yet? With all working radios etc... Cause if we don't get ICS soon...I'm just gonna root...
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Not for the Thunderbolt. Everything that doesn't have to do with the radios works as devs are still waiting on RIL.

vader540is said:
I hope Verizon does not cop out like these guys did... I really want 4.0 or help, for get ICS how about some jelly bean? That project butter is badass its faster and smoother then my buddies iPhone4s ,any good builds for jellybean yet? With all working radios etc... Cause if we don't get ICS soon...I'm just gonna root...
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The Thunderbolt will most likely never see jellybean. We are lucky enough to be considered for ICS
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I personally don't think jellybean is going to run worth a crap in this phone. The vsyncing that was thrown in jellybean is resource intensive and I don't think the hardware of the thunderbolt can handle that. Ics will run good I'm sure but jellybean throws a wrench into things because of vsync timers.
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Wouldn't devs just be able to disable the VSync feature? I mean, CM has a lot of under-the-hood tweaks. I'm sure with full source they'll be able to port forward the ICS code, worst case. I can't imagine 4.0 to 4.1 as being anything but incremental.

That vsync feature is one of the things that makes jellybean great because the phones that can handle it and can utilize that feature will see great improvements to the smoothness of the ui.
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Way I see it, if Verizon decides to **** block ICS for us, they owe us a free upgrade. People talk about getting better phones just by *****ing... This would be more of a reason imho... Paired with some aforementioned *****ing, that is.
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt

Dannar said:
Way I see it, if Verizon decides to **** block ICS for us, they owe us a free upgrade.
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Thanks, that's the funniest thing I've read today... oh, wait, you were serious?
Looks like ICS may NOT come to the T'bolt and, as we all should know by now, if we don't get a T'bolt ICS the devs can't make ROMs for us.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/0...-cream-sandwich-update-officially-in-trouble/
Sorry.....

xs11e said:
Thanks, that's the funniest thing I've read today... oh, wait, you were serious?
Looks like ICS may NOT come to the T'bolt and, as we all should know by now, if we don't get a T'bolt ICS the devs can't make ROMs for us.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/0...-cream-sandwich-update-officially-in-trouble/
Sorry.....
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That article adds no new information and is just speculation. Regrettably I tend to agree with what it's saying, but it's not like someone dropped the other shoe. Hopefully we'll at least get a leak with a working ril, even if HTC decides to puss out on us too.
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animez said:
Hopefully we'll at least get a leak with a working ril, even if HTC decides to puss out on us too.
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Unless HTC and VZW release ICS for the T'bolt there can't be a leak with a working ril, can there? Any ril that works for the T'bolt would exist ONLY in a T'bolt ICS release unless a dev can build an ril from scratch?

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Unless HTC and VZW release ICS for the T'bolt there can't be a leak with a working ril, can there? Any ril that works for the T'bolt would exist ONLY in a T'bolt ICS release unless a dev can build an ril from scratch?
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If we get a leak it will have the ril we need and the kernel too.
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disconnecktie said:
If we get a leak it will have the ril we need and the kernel too.
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Agreed but there won't be a leak if HTC and VZW don't create a ROM. The rumored soak test has produced no leak so far, I heard (who knows if it's true or not?) that the NDA had sufficient teeth in it that none of the testers would leak it.... so *IF* the soak test really happened or is happening then we can believe in one hell of an NDA because there is no leak AFAIK.
FWIW, I really don't care much, HTC's website says IF the T'bolt gets ICS it'll have Sense 3.6 and will NOT get sense 4.x because of performance issues and that makes me think two things:
1. The T'bolt really doesn't have the horsepower to run ICS with Sense 4.x and so
2. We're better off with a good ROM and Gingerbread than we will be with ICS.
However, I can upgrade in... well, never. So.... I'll keep running my current ROM(s) and see what happens and what shows up on Ebay!

If Desire HD can't handle ICS, what's with the Desire C??
Well,.....I call BS on the Desire HD or the Thunderbolt not being able to handle ICS or Sense 4.0.
It's clearly a marketing strategy to sell new devices and nothing more.
If it were true that the Desire HD could not run ICS and Sense 4.0 acceptably, then why in God's name would HTC be releasing the Desire C?
Has anyone checked out the specs on that ICS Sense 4.0 device?
CHECK IT OUT
So yeah, I call BS!!!!

That desire c is really low end hardware but yet can run the newest software. Definitely a marketing strategy on htc's part by not giving us the best software. Our phones are more than capable of running it. Another example is the one v. Same specs as ours
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