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Space Trader Beta for Android is here!!! YAYYYYYY!!

For those of you that remember Space Trader for the Palm OS, there is a newly released beta version called Dark Nova.
http://code.google.com/p/dark-nova-android/wiki/BetaInstructions
I am not affiliated with these guys, just posting about one of the greatest games ever made. It is still in beta, and needs some work, but still, best game I have ever played.

hmm.. seems a lot like DopeWars but with some space-style graphics and more confusing gameplay.
This one has potential but they have a LOOOONG way to go before they will have a polished game ready for the masses.
There is no native way to close the game, going to different menus opens layers of windows which started fc'ing on me. After about 6 fc's I was back at the main commander screen.
Even if it doesn't fc you still just go back one page if you hit the back button so if you warp to another planet and hit the back button then you are instantly back where you started??
Good start though. Now that they've proven their concept I hope they make a game out of it

nebenezer said:
hmm.. seems a lot like DopeWars but with some space-style graphics and more confusing gameplay.
This one has potential but they have a LOOOONG way to go before they will have a polished game ready for the masses.
There is no native way to close the game, going to different menus opens layers of windows which started fc'ing on me. After about 6 fc's I was back at the main commander screen.
Even if it doesn't fc you still just go back one page if you hit the back button so if you warp to another planet and hit the back button then you are instantly back where you started??
Good start though. Now that they've proven their concept I hope they make a game out of it
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You clearly have zero idea what Space Trader is.

VSack said:
You clearly have zero idea what Space Trader is.
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care to enlighten me?
*edit- I played it for 10 minutes or so and found several things that are almost identical to DopeWars. Buying and selling stuff, buying and equipping weapons, traveling and being stopped by a raiding party, the bank...
Seems like a very similar concept to me..

nebenezer said:
care to enlighten me?
*edit- I played it for 10 minutes or so and found several things that are almost identical to DopeWars. Buying and selling stuff, buying and equipping weapons, traveling and being stopped by a raiding party, the bank...
Seems like a very similar concept to me..
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Its what I said it was. SPACE TRADER. It was a game built for the Palm OS and kicked major ass. I guess you could find similarities with dope wars, but it is different.
And yes, it is still in beta. The more people that help out, the quicker it gets polished. It is brand spanking new. If you ever played Space Trader, you would certainly LOVE this game, as I believe it is an exact replica, but with better graphics, and I think they added more missions.

it is similar to dopewars. jsut because it is set and space and has some diffrences does not mean he isnt right.
Its nto a bad start for a beta, i am sure the origonal was great and fans of it will liek this.
you dont have to get defensive though when someone differs with your opinion or compares it to something else

omegasun18 said:
it is similar to dopewars. jsut because it is set and space and has some diffrences does not mean he isnt right.
Its nto a bad start for a beta, i am sure the origonal was great and fans of it will liek this.
you dont have to get defensive though when someone differs with your opinion or compares it to something else
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I said you can find similarities, and we both said it has its differences. I don't think I was being defensive. Plus, if you never played the original, and haven't really played it, I don't think you have standing to compare it really. You can speculate, but at least say "never played it, but seems similar to this...".
Would you say all FPS's are the same? Probably not...I think you see what I am trying to say.

Dude, are you paid by the devs to post these bs responses? Man, if they're similar, they're similar. Get over it. You just said u weren't being defensive and continued with another defensive post.
And yes, all fpses have obvious similarities and that's why they fit into the fps genre. It's not like the dude called it a dopewars RIP or clone.
All spelling errors thanks to xt9 on my Evo!

you are being defensive again. I acctually have played the origonal i played this and see that is is the same game as origonal however the new interface is cluncky and there are TONS of fcs. No one said it is the same. We said it was similar and under your new criteria i CAN say that. I hope they can make it work and make the FCs go away and the interface a little more polished.
i wouldnt say all FPS are the same but i would say they are all similar.

I'm not sure if this is a zone defense or a 3-4 he is running..All I'm seeing is blitzing!!

ROFL, paid by the devs. Yeah....I get .00001cent for every download lol. Sorry folks. LAST TIME I will ever post any new beta that is out there. My fault for assuming people with too much time on their hands could be mature!

Middle Earth (the original) Space trader, as well as Dope wars, were once Amiga CNet BBS addon games in the late '80s - '90s. They were also made into "doors" addon games for IBM BBS, back in the days before the WWW. Similar and fun. Though you played against other people and only had one turn every 24hrs..
-CC

kuthedude said:
ROFL, paid by the devs. Yeah....I get .00001cent for every download lol. Sorry folks. LAST TIME I will ever post any new beta that is out there. My fault for assuming people with too much time on their hands could be mature!
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Seriously bro, calm down. Or just stop posting. You are the only one in this thread who has not been mature about YOUR thread.. I thought it was a decent start of a game. My comparison to DopeWars was a compliment, DopeWars is a classic and I restore it everytime I flash a new rom
I think there is a lot of potential for this game. I would suggest that you follow your own advice about not posting about any more beta software if you can't handle a little feedback that isn't "LIKE ZOMG WHERE HAZ THIZ GAME BEEN ALL MY LIF3??!!"
I'm glad they ported your favorite game of all time to the EVO and I hope it matures into a paid-on-the-market worthy game..
clockcycle said:
Middle Earth (the original) Space trader, as well as Dope wars, were once Amiga CNet BBS addon games in the late '80s - '90s. They were also made into "doors" addon games for IBM BBS, back in the days before the WWW. Similar and fun. Though you played against other people and only had one turn every 24hrs..
-CC
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DOOD, My first DopeWars experience was on my Ti-83!! Damn those were the days.
I remember how freaking revolutionary it felt the first time Sierra built mouse control into a King's Quest game (I think it was KQ5?)
*edit- I just realized that was you! Looks like that crack in the case was a legit beef I got mine replaced, crack free!

kuthedude said:
ROFL, paid by the devs. Yeah....I get .00001cent for every download lol. Sorry folks. LAST TIME I will ever post any new beta that is out there. My fault for assuming people with too much time on their hands could be mature!
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K, bye
All spelling errors thanks to xt9 on my Evo!

kuthedude said:
ROFL, paid by the devs. Yeah....I get .00001cent for every download lol. Sorry folks. LAST TIME I will ever post any new beta that is out there. My fault for assuming people with too much time on their hands could be mature!
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You can't blitz every down in the pros anyway.

get m' duckett, hes being rude and he knows it. why start a thread w/o being capable of taking some constructive criticism? nebs a good guy and just stating the facts. you should watch your tone and pay attention,but becareful; you might learn something....

MagnusRagnarok said:
get m' duckett, hes being rude and he knows it. why start a thread w/o being capable of taking some constructive criticism? nebs a good guy and just stating the facts. you should watch your tone and pay attention,but becareful; you might learn something....
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Haha Ty ty.... BTW ur latest cm theme based on flavored ice kicks complete ass
All spelling errors thanks to xt9 on my Evo!

If you like Space Trader, I highly recommend checking out similar games all based on Elite.
I sense a lot of chaffing in here. Everyone take a minute to go look in the mirror and remind yourself somebody out there loves you.

clockcycle said:
Middle Earth (the original) Space trader, as well as Dope wars, were once Amiga CNet BBS addon games in the late '80s - '90s. They were also made into "doors" addon games for IBM BBS, back in the days before the WWW. Similar and fun. Though you played against other people and only had one turn every 24hrs..
-CC
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WOW and I thought I was the only one that remembered the old BBS days... Remember legend of the dragon?

hey this space trader game is just like dope wars!!!

My HTC Desire dock.

Just thought I'd share the dock I made with you guys. It's made out of Lego. I don't know why I wasted so much time making it, probably because of upcoming exams. But yeah, tell me what you think.

well jealous! getting my Lego out today

wow... i like this..

LOL that's awesome. Now, where did my mum put all my old Lego blocks haha...

ingenious, id prefer a plastic or wooden version
but a great reason to take out the lego once more

lol what ever you get in your exams, at an a+ for this
freaking sweet

Haha this looks cool I want one for sure.

Tiny Dragon [Game]

Hi!
I´m making an game called Tiny Dragon and it´s pretty much like the Tiny Wings on iOS. I have already done all th artwork and sprites the game needs but the problem I´m having is that I don´t know how to code, So I thought that I might find someone who could be intrested in this and could help me with this.
I also would be needing some help with game music & sounds but it´s not so important yet.
Also here´s some screens that show how everything should look like:
http://img18.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=gamescreen.png
So if you´re intrested in to code this game then let me know.

I could probably help with sound, not with coding though
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marko! said:
I could probably help with sound, not with coding though
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That´s great!
I´ll send you an PM to tell you what kinda sounds I´m needing.

Please add some big changes because otherwise it will be all deja vu again.

muumia4 said:
Please add some big changes because otherwise it will be all deja vu again.
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What kinda chages you would like to see?
´Cause I´m thinking of adding an short fly when two fingers are pressed at the screen and I´m thinking of adding an two themes for the game, one with running away of darkness and one with running away of snow ´cause winter is coming
Any game ideas are welcome

umm have you seen this?

JRK-Scope said:
umm have you seen this?
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Yes, I have seen that
And I didn´t like that game so much, it just feels bit boring, it doesn´t have any nice looking sprites, like the dragon it´s looking boring, and the world doesn´t have any nice colors.
That´s why I´m trying to make an own one which would be much better.

I like your art a lot, it's the most important thing the android clones of tiny wings are lacking.
when I had iphone I used to play that game a lot, but I don't like any of the ports for android.
If you could match the music in some way, and the whole atmosphere it would be great.
also try to add a autumn theme, with leaves blowing and brownish color
good luck!

engwee said:
I like your art a lot, it's the most important thing the android clones of tiny wings are lacking.
when I had iphone I used to play that game a lot, but I don't like any of the ports for android.
If you could match the music in some way, and the whole atmosphere it would be great.
also try to add a autumn theme, with leaves blowing and brownish color
good luck!
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Thanks!
I don´t like the ports on android neither, they just don´t have great art work and that makes them boring.
And trust me, I´ll make the music and whole atmosphere work together.
Hmm.. That just gave me an great idea for the game, making all the seasons to the game.

I´ve made an thread for this on the androidforums too.
http://androidforums.com/android-games/442015-tiny-dragon-game.html
I´m hoping that it helps me to find coder faster.
So if you are intrested and got some coding skills then please contact me.

kevindevil said:
What kinda chages you would like to see?
´Cause I´m thinking of adding an short fly when two fingers are pressed at the screen and I´m thinking of adding an two themes for the game, one with running away of darkness and one with running away of snow ´cause winter is coming
Any game ideas are welcome
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Well something really special so it wouldnt be another exact copy of dragon fly or that sort of games...
Maybe some visual upgrades?
Like when you upgrade something it will be seen on character.
Some sort of bigger story. (makes an option to make sequels) maybe something about that darkness you were telling about.
Easter eggs.
Some sharp hills that you need to jump over.
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any luck with this?

muumia4 said:
Well something really special so it wouldnt be another exact copy of dragon fly or that sort of games...
Maybe some visual upgrades?
Like when you upgrade something it will be seen on character.
Some sort of bigger story. (makes an option to make sequels) maybe something about that darkness you were telling about.
Easter eggs.
Some sharp hills that you need to jump over.
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Hmm.. some of those are pretty good ideas and I´ve had some of similiar ideas in my head too, I´ll see what I can do with these ideas.
But trust me it won´t be excatly same kinda game like the others, it will have it´s own unique things that the others don´t have.
engwee said:
any luck with this?
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Well, I´m still looking for game developer.
But I´m gonna ask one guy, but it might take some time to him starting the coding ´cause he´s having some trouble with his life at the moment.

Need help! Our game flopped and no idea why!

Hey Guys,
Really loving this community! We released this game on the market last Thursday and only have 12 downloads ATM! We must have screwed something up royally but the only feedback we've had so far has been positive. Perhaps its the name of the game? Or maybe the graphics just look terrible, or what?
Any new name suggestions?
Thanks for any feedback you have!
Erik

Checked it out. I can see where it would be addicting and I'll likely keep it. Honestly though if I wouldn't have stumbled upon your thread here and came across it on the market, I would have never downloaded it. Icon is good but I think the name is what would make me skip it. I don't have any specific suggestions, just try to be a bit more descriptive of what the point is in the title. Also, the menu is a little hard to read and could be confusing for some people I guess. Hope I helped!
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The "Fun for all ages" and "Cute fun" text makes me kinda go "eww, a family-friendly game". I think it'd be better off without it at all. A description of what you actually do in the game would be helpful, too.

You cant read the font on LDPI and I would agree with the change of title.

I've not played the game and I don't need too to form an opinion. That is the biggest problem with this game and any game for that matter. People do judge games by their "cover" until of course they get big enough to be talked about/reviewed etc.
It seems to me that you're not really sure who you are aiming the game at. You use graphics that imply this is aimed at 9 year old girls but the language is for geeky teenage boys (and older) with terms like "Rockstah bunneh," or something to that effect.
Look at the comments you have so far (assuming they are not your friends!) They all use wording such as "so cute" "adorable." If this is the route you want to go down then you need to go the whole hog and really target the one specific market.
It takes something very special to appeal to everyone and it may be unrealistic to try on your first game (assuming it is.)
Now I don't mean to sound harsh or overly critical, but this is a game I would never dream of downloading and it appears i'm not alone. With a few tweaks here and there I still wouldn't download it but maybe another demographic would and you could be very successful.
As a final note I could be talking rubbish as I have no particular expertise in the area and your only problem is getting your game recognised in an already over crowded market.
Good luck.
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Hello everyone. Firstly i checked it out and have an idea i think you must add an option like using sensors to control the game and maybe the font can be changed.
Maybe then i can help better with my ideas.
Good luck.
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evilspoons said:
The "Fun for all ages" and "Cute fun" text makes me kinda go "eww, a family-friendly game". I think it'd be better off without it at all. A description of what you actually do in the game would be helpful, too.
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This is perfect feedback! Thanks
Now that you said it, I wouldn't ever download a family game either!

I think it was this game i saw on the market this weekend. I was searching for games to play since i had gotten a new ROM and wanted to settle in. I saw the name, saw the icon and the first thought through my mind was "it's probably a little kids game" and instantly just ignored it. I can see how the icon would match the game itself, but the name is just... ehh...

We updated the name and feature graphic. Keep the feedback coming and feel free to make it brutal!
Hopefully with the humor on the graphic people won't think its just for kids?

Just tried it. The game itself is nicely made, but it's not the type of game i would normally play. I see that you have changed some stuff (but not released the update yet) so i can't say if it's better after the changes, but one thing is sure, it needs so much more blood. I want the bunnies to pop like a balloon when they fall to their death.
Fine, i'm joking. Or not?
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LordManhattan said:
Just tried it. The game itself is nicely made, but it's not the type of game i would normally play. I see that you have changed some stuff (but not released the update yet) so i can't say if it's better after the changes, but one thing is sure, it needs so much more blood. I want the bunnies to pop like a balloon when they fall to their death.
Fine, i'm joking. Or not?
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That would be a lot of fun to make as a separate app, what could we call it?

Maybe I'm just crap at this game but it seems pretty hard...can't get past level 2 haha
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Hey there, sorry for you, but dont give up.
I am pretty sure its the bunny on the icon and the first splash screen. It neither sweet nor serious. Its rather a bit scary. ;-)
Try to change this. In my view the little bunnies ingame are sweeter than the one in the icon.
Good luck!
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I agree in title change too. Don't give up, the market is also not über easy to find new games sometimes cause they get lost in the sauce quickly.
MoPhoACTV Initiative

Use proper English in the description, call it something catchy instead like Foxes'n'Bunnies (REALLY bad example I know, but you can most likely catch my drift), and I would make a more rounded corner icon

I know others have mentioned it, but I'm throwing another vote in for a change to the title and the general copy of the description.
Currently, the description is vague and comes across as unprofessional. The description gives little information about the mechanics of the game, or even the style of gameplay (does it resemble a puzzle game? A 2D side-scroller? Is it controlled by tilt? Touch?). More information would be useful. The writing itself resembles internet memes more than a game advertisement. General touches such as cleaning up the writing (and perhaps removing the speech bubble over the rabbit's head; it looks like it was done in paint) can go a long way towards conveying professionalism from the developers, which helps consumers to trust both your legitimacy, and the legitimacy of the app. I looked over your website, and it does a solid job of being professional. The design seems reasonable (though I'm not a designer), and the writing is fine. This makes the copy that appears in the description somewhat more puzzling.
That said, it seems like you're on to some good things, and I have a great deal of respect for developers who turn to the community and look for honest feedback in order to improve. Thanks for all your hard work; I'll be keeping an eye out for your future projects. Good luck!

I would give it a better name, the current name isnt very easy to remember. A good name will help your game spread by word of mouth since people will be able to rattle off the name easier.
I'm not sure how app makes market their games, just getting it out here on XDA helps. You could start a thread over in the Android App Devs section if you havent already for your app. Theres a lot of apps out there and its hard to get something new noticed.

Definitely not my type of game. I'm 31 years old and write like a normal human being. I never understood the writing style in the game. It sounds like a 12 year old wrote it. If you took the physics behind the game and made another game themed around something artsy (check out a game called quell) you may get a different response.
I'd step away from the drawing board for a week our so and find someone artsy can look at the objective and build a different theme around it.

I have a few suggestions that may help you get attention.
1.) Better name. "Outfoxed" would be an excellent name.
out·fox
verb /ˌoutˈfäks/ 
outfoxed, past participle; outfoxed, past tense; outfoxes, 3rd person singular present; outfoxing, present participle
Defeat or deceive (someone) by being more clever or cunning than they are; outwit
2.) You must have a catchy description. "Outfox the sly fox before you become his next lunch."
3.) Please remove the baby talk and "internet meme" phrases. Most people wouldn't understand it and the ones that do would just get annoyed by it. It completely ruins it for most of us.
4.) While the newer icon is better, it still needs work. Try outlining the rabbit with a thicker black line in order to make it pop more. It blends into the background too much as it is.
5.) Social networking. Advertise your game on Twitter/Facebook/Google+. It wouldn't hurt to create a small website with a link to the Google Play download.
6.) Fix the menu screen. That font is terrible on the eyes. Clean it up and make it look more professional. The whole app screams "Coding 101 class project". Take some notes from the successful developers.
You have a good start, but without that extra push it will never go anywhere.

awesome awesome awesome feedback!
Thank you guys so much! We will remove the LOLCats speak, I didn't realize its like baby talk but I guess it makes sense.
Outfoxed! That's not bad

Surface + fun oOoOoOoOoO

Hi++
click here to watch the video
Yesterday I found a fun video about "surface" in Youtube ,it's really fun !!!
after I saw this video I really want one of that surface tabs! with Metrosexual menu
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the video by :some of Russian friends :good:

first of all... WAY too many colors in your message, op. I'm not even going to quote that abuse of colors.
second of all, before anyone watches this, know it is a fake video meant to instill humor, it does NOT have anything to do with the real microsoft surface, it is just for fun. I thought it was funny, but it was definantly a trolling attempt, in case any of you are emotionally attached to devices we have not yet used (admit it, we all do it).

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first of all... WAY too many colors in your message, op. I'm not even going to quote that abuse of colors.
second of all, before anyone watches this, know it is a fake video meant to instill humor, it does NOT have anything to do with the real microsoft surface, it is just for fun. I thought it was funny, but it was definantly a trolling attempt, in case any of you are emotionally attached to devices we have not yet used (admit it, we all do it).
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Hi++
1-About the colors : (to tell the truth I used some of psychology tricks
2-you are a genius ,Wow !! I thought it's a real surface!
3- it's just a kidding with our legendary surface , exactly I wanna buy a Russian version

Dyskmaster said:
first of all... WAY too many colors in your message, op. I'm not even going to quote that abuse of colors.
second of all, before anyone watches this, know it is a fake video meant to instill humor, it does NOT have anything to do with the real microsoft surface, it is just for fun. I thought it was funny, but it was definantly a trolling attempt, in case any of you are emotionally attached to devices we have not yet used (admit it, we all do it).
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lookout, now anything funny is "trolling" in the surface threads?
(this is would have been trolling)
what's next, only allowing folks to talk about how awesome the next version of office is, and how sexay spreadsheets are?
the video has some cool video effects , made my kids laugh!

Those sparks took the cake for me. ?
I just got my Surface. It is SUPERB.