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I had this conversation with a samsung support tech earlier today, you can make your own deductions but i think we are screwed because according to him the epic launched with the GPS fix already applied and as we all know from recent posts and videos the accuracy is still ****.....
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Dan: Hi, thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support. How may I help you today?
Dan: How may I help you?
Visitor: hi Dan, i have a captivate from ATT and the gps is terrible, is there a fix that is coming because i am really tempted to return this phone
Dan: I understand that you need to have update about GPS.
Dan: I am sorry for inconvenience caused to you.
Dan: Our support team as been working on issue with GPS.
Dan: We will have GPS update fixed by end if september.
Visitor: was the epic 4g or the fascinate launched with fix already applied to the gps ?
Dan: We have Epic released but we do not have any customers with GPS issue.
Visitor: so thge answer would be yes the fix is applied to the epic ?
Dan: To be honest yes.
Dan: However we will have GPS issue fixed.
Visitor: i have a freind with the epic and the gps is still terrible but from what you are telling me it's fixed.
Dan: I am sorry for inconvenience caused.
Visitor: ok, thanks for your time
Dan: We have many customers with Epic , but we did not have any issue with GPS.
Dan: Once we have update released it will be OTA,
Visitor: ok
Dan: Update will fix the issue.
Dan: Please let me know if I can be of any further help.
Visitor: that's it, thank you
Dan: You're most welcome.
Dan: It was a pleasure assisting you. Thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support.
According to the way that guy conversates, I wouldnt take much of what he said into consideration lol.
I have worked for Tech giant manufacturers (more then one) - and I know for a fact that the tech support people (usually 1st through 3rd level) have no idea about fixes or releases. They are not told until after things are out.
The idea that any of these guys would know that GPS in Epic is fixed, or was released with the fix that other Galaxy S phones are waiting for is doubtful.
Until an official statement is made, I won't believe anything I hear from anyone in Samsung support. Their job is to log an issue, be nice to the customer, and fix something if they can.
So why worry about it at all until some official notification comes out? If GPS is still broken, we can take our phones back as they are not meeting basic functionality requirements - if that is what people want to do.
Two months in and no GPS fix. I will reconsider before I buy a Samsung phone ever againg. Product support suck.
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Dxtra said:
Two months in and no GPS fix. I will reconsider before I buy a Samsung phone ever againg. Product support suck.
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Amen!
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My 30 day return is up on wednesday and if no fix by then this **** is going back, i never should have left HTC for sam****.
God you people cry way too much. Why does gps on your phone bother you so much? I am a truck driver and need directions EVERY DAY. But unlike you i guess i have the ability to read a map. And even with sketchy gps it gets me in the general direction i gotta go. Stop all the crying already. Want great GPS get a damn gps unit. I have a few i will sell you since i dont use them anymore. And return your worthless phones. Rant /off
GPS on the Samsung Eternity worked great. Wonder what the difference is.
Am I missing something? My GPS works great, I've had no problems at all. If there's anything I can provide somehow to help you guys, let me know.
Hell, I've even gotten a good signal sitting in my living room; on Google maps it even showed my location in my house properly.
If there are files or something I can pull from my phone for you, I'll do what I can.
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I have worked for Tech giant manufacturers (more then one) - and I know for a fact that the tech support people (usually 1st through 3rd level) have no idea about fixes or releases. They are not told until after things are out.
The idea that any of these guys would know that GPS in Epic is fixed, or was released with the fix that other Galaxy S phones are waiting for is doubtful.
Until an official statement is made, I won't believe anything I hear from anyone in Samsung support. Their job is to log an issue, be nice to the customer, and fix something if they can.
So why worry about it at all until some official notification comes out? If GPS is still broken, we can take our phones back as they are not meeting basic functionality requirements - if that is what people want to do.
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This is so true, agree 100%. Plus, I think you kind of led him to say that the Epic had the fix by you actually mentioning it. He said yes and that was pretty much it.
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Am I missing something? My GPS works great, I've had no problems at all. If there's anything I can provide somehow to help you guys, let me know.
Hell, I've even gotten a good signal sitting in my living room; on Google maps it even showed my location in my house properly.
If there are files or something I can pull from my phone for you, I'll do what I can.
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Agreed, anything outside of a building and the GPS works great. I've been using it to geocache, and also have a boating gps app installed and used it flawlessly this past weekend. I can drive anywhere in my car and the GPS will not lose me once.
The only time I get a long signal search is after a week of not using the GPS function, then it takes only about 30 sec's to lock on.
Smokestack, I don't know about you but when I purchase a product I like when everything works. That's why I bought it, why put a non functioning gps and by the way, I am a private pilot so I read a lot more complexed maps than you, I dont follow interstates, I follow victor airways...
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GPS on the Samsung Eternity worked great. Wonder what the difference is.
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Dude. The eternity was aGPS only. Doesn't compare.
Diff OS, Diff chipset, diff radio setup.. .. .. .. Oranges to Onions dude.
And yes, i had one, the screen whacked in 6 months, got another, it happened again. Swapped to an Impression.. another 6 months and BOOM.
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Smokestack, I don't know about you but when I purchase a product I like when everything works. That's why I bought it, why put a non functioning gps and by the way, I am a private pilot so I read a lot more complexed maps than you, I dont follow interstates, I follow victor airways...
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I wouldn't rely on the GPS in my Captivate or any phone for that matter for flight ops. But, I do agree that if the phone says it has GPS, it should have GPS working when you buy it at the store. Doesn't matter if it's a nice-to-have feature or a core function. If it says it has GPS, then it should work.
I am hoping that this was a last minute configuration/software defect that was re-introduced following QA. There's no way a phone should be able to exit QA with such an alarmingly big severity 1 defect.
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Dude. The eternity was aGPS only. Doesn't compare.
Diff OS, Diff chipset, diff radio setup.. .. .. .. Oranges to Onions dude.
And yes, i had one, the screen whacked in 6 months, got another, it happened again. Swapped to an Impression.. another 6 months and BOOM.
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Dude. Cool. You answered my question. That's why I asked. I personally couldn't care less about the gps. it works good enough for me.
Sorry you broke your eternity. i had mine for two years. was dropped/thrown/punched countless times, the moisture label was bright red, but i never had a single issue with that phone other than when using opera mini and sometimes i would click a link and it would just refresh the page. a buddy of mine got one shortly after i did. he finally just broke his screen last week. cracks all through it and a couple "chunks" from the screen gone, but it still works. still texts on it like crazy. that thing is sturdy.
Smokestack...... Would you not complain if you bought a truck and found out it had the wheels missing?
I bought a device that is supposed to have GPS but doesn't. All I want is what I paid for. My reason for wanting it does not matter. I will never buy another samsung phone. If it hours totally unresolved I will never buy anything Samsung.
I totally believe this was/is an intentional scam. Then on top of it the reduced speed and forced data plan change.
I'm not happy and wish I could send this otherwise good phone back.
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Smokestack...... Would you not complain if you bought a truck and found out it had the wheels missing?
I bought a device that is supposed to have GPS but doesn't. All I want is what I paid for. My reason for wanting it does not matter. I will never buy another samsung phone. If it hours totally unresolved I will never buy anything Samsung.
I totally believe this was/is an intentional scam. Then on top of it the reduced speed and forced data plan change.
I'm not happy and wish I could send this otherwise good phone back.
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Bad analogy. A truck needs wheels to be able to serve it's purpose. A phone doesn't need GPS to work as a phone. Maybe saying something along the lines of air conditioning, it's an added bonus, such as the GPS. don't mind me, just sayin....
gotta kill these last few minutes at work some how. And you really think it's an intentional scam? take off the tinfoil hat...
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Smokestack...... Would you not complain if you bought a truck and found out it had the wheels missing?
I bought a device that is supposed to have GPS but doesn't. All I want is what I paid for. My reason for wanting it does not matter. I will never buy another samsung phone. If it hours totally unresolved I will never buy anything Samsung.
I totally believe this was/is an intentional scam. Then on top of it the reduced speed and forced data plan change.
I'm not happy and wish I could send this otherwise good phone back.
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Return your phone then. If you are out of the 30 days, you still have a valid case for returning it - but watch you say:
- GPS is known issue that Samsung has acknowledged.
- reduced speed? Where? HSUPA was never spec'd so you won't win that one - just because other phones have it, doesn't mean all do.
- forced data plan change - clearly spelled out what data plans work with the phone - if you don't like it, don't buy it.
So your GPS complaint is valid, and if the phone doesn't serve its advertised purpose then return it. There is no international conspiracy. maybe samsung knew about the GPS issue before they shipped, maybe not. Dev's are flashing new firmwares all the time - and it could have slipped through a rushed QA cycle.
Instead of complaining do something about. If the product doesn't work take it back. The iFools should have done this.
I think it's best for us to keep reminding Samsung that this is important. I just did here: http://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile
Hello to all,
I did take my first phone back to att because of gps problem, we try 5 phones before she got one with working gps it takes up to 10 seconds to lock the signal.
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Im going to try to return my phone since the GPS cant do anything in regards to navigation. It never knows what street im on even when its locked.
Is there a certain model I should be requesting that performs better?
All of them are broken. It's a hardware problem.
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All of them are broken. It's a hardware problem.
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not true. my phone is build no. 1012 rev 0.4 and everything works as expected, including GPS.
Mine has never ever, locked once!!!
Mine is 1007 stock and I've always been able to use the GPS. So imho it's pretty much luck of the draw.
I don't even care anymore. I've given up on Samdung to be honest.. terrible support and no communication for their 10 million galaxy s devices.
For what its worth, I have a 1006 build and gps is marginal at best when tracking - regardless of which ROM and gps cocktail files I throw at it.
Supposedly the newer builds have better tracking, but there isn't any PROOF.
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Samdung... Clever. I prefer Samsuck myself.
I have a model 1009 running Serendipity 2.0, and my GPS gets a very quick lock and maintains lock when I'm driving in the car for the most part.
I had 2 1008's that both had great gps with Darkys rom and very spotty if any lock with other roms. I now have a refurbished 1007 running Darkys that locks fast and tracks great too.
I have a 1007, that I got to replace my old 1007 and the new phone's gps works perfectly with any rom I've used. Guess I got lucky.
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I have to agree that GPS on my Captivate isn't great since day 1 either.
Recently I've been using Designgears Perception build 10.0, GPS has nothing but spectacular. Did a few long-drive road test and didn't lose signal even once and testing it with short trips for about a week now. Signal lock is within a minute. That is with both Google Maps/Navigation and CoPilot Live. A round trip from St. Robert to St. Louis, MO then from St. Robert, MO to Fort Smith, AR and back and GPS has been Spot on. This is with Perception Build 10.0 - Before I made the trip back from Fort Smith, I decided to update to Perception build 10.1 and GPS just gave out on me... did not work at all... get all kind of GPS signal but can not be locked into 3D to get an accurate position. Great thing I still have Build 10.0 on the phone decided to flash back from Build 10.1 to 10.0 and GPS is miraculously work the way it meant to be. This is the first time GPS on my Captivate has been working so well for me ever since day 1. I almost made a jump to Windows Phone 7 because of it. Now, I don't have to anymore, all thanks to Designgear.
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Haha, I like samjunk.
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I'm curious...
If you look at all the messages and statements here that the GPS on the Galaxy phones don't work, one would think (at least anecdotally) that a large percentage of the phones' GPS's don't work. Does anybody have any numbers showing the percentage of the phones with the problem? I mean, with multi millions of phones sold, one would think that you would hear more of it outside the tech stream media. Maybe it has been, and I just didn't notice. Does anybody have any link to the number/percentage of phones affected?
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I'm curious...
If you look at all the messages and statements here that the GPS on the Galaxy phones don't work, one would think (at least anecdotally) that a large percentage of the phones' GPS's don't work. Does anybody have any numbers showing the percentage of the phones with the problem? I mean, with multi millions of phones sold, one would think that you would hear more of it outside the tech stream media. Maybe it has been, and I just didn't notice. Does anybody have any link to the number/percentage of phones affected?
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Nah, that data doesn't exist. You could start a poll thread. It'd be skewed towards XDA users (which might comprise in part those that find their phone inadequate) but that'd give some idea.
My phone varies from poor gps tracking to completely unfunctional depending on the ROM. Incidentally, all 2.2 i9000 were 100% broken for me, but 2.2.1 i9000 brought it up to "crappy". YMMV
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mwilhelm said:
I'm curious...
If you look at all the messages and statements here that the GPS on the Galaxy phones don't work, one would think (at least anecdotally) that a large percentage of the phones' GPS's don't work. Does anybody have any numbers showing the percentage of the phones with the problem? I mean, with multi millions of phones sold, one would think that you would hear more of it outside the tech stream media. Maybe it has been, and I just didn't notice. Does anybody have any link to the number/percentage of phones affected?
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The two people I know with SGS phones that said their GPS worked learned otherwise when I asked them to show me.
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The two people I know with SGS phones that said their GPS worked learned otherwise when I asked them to show me.
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It's like the iPhone antenna. They're all broken, but many people don't notice or understand the problem.
So the company spits in your face and goes to the bank.
Some people think this is acceptable, I don't. That's why I shall never but another Samsung phone again.
I've been holding a grudge against RadioShack since fifth grade, when they tried to screw me over. Now Samsung can add to the list.
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Haha, I like samjunk.
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If people keep refusing to buy their phones anymore because of the Captivate, they'll soon be Samsunk!
bacuy82 said:
I have to agree that GPS on my Captivate isn't great since day 1 either.
Recently I've been using Designgears Perception build 10.0, GPS has nothing but spectacular. Did a few long-drive road test and didn't lose signal even once and testing it with short trips for about a week now. Signal lock is within a minute. That is with both Google Maps/Navigation and CoPilot Live. A round trip from St. Robert to St. Louis, MO then from St. Robert, MO to Fort Smith, AR and back and GPS has been Spot on. This is with Perception Build 10.0 - Before I made the trip back from Fort Smith, I decided to update to Perception build 10.1 and GPS just gave out on me... did not work at all... get all kind of GPS signal but can not be locked into 3D to get an accurate position. Great thing I still have Build 10.0 on the phone decided to flash back from Build 10.1 to 10.0 and GPS is miraculously work the way it meant to be. This is the first time GPS on my Captivate has been working so well for me ever since day 1. I almost made a jump to Windows Phone 7 because of it. Now, I don't have to anymore, all thanks to Designgear.
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Ive tried every ROM and none of them work with my GPS. It will track me for periods of 30 seconds, then the circle around my arrow gets huge and rarely locks again.
MikeyMike01 said:
It's like the iPhone antenna. They're all broken, but many people don't notice or understand the problem.
So the company spits in your face and goes to the bank.
Some people think this is acceptable, I don't. That's why I shall never but another Samsung phone again.
I've been holding a grudge against RadioShack since fifth grade, when they tried to screw me over. Now Samsung can add to the list.
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Minus the fact that the iPhone antenna actually works... That thing never loses my position... NEVER. A simple case on the phone remedies the issue... with the captivate, there is nothing you can do but keep returning the phone.
My GPS is perfect. I have 10 locks in within 30 seconds. This is my second captivate due to me dropping the first one and the screen breaking. When I used the GPS on that device I got a Max of 3 satellites with 1 lock. I think it its that they have slightly updated the device as time has passed on.
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I updated..must restore stock recovery and unroot...wow everything works great...lets talk about positive changes this update has done to our beloved g2x's.
Plugging in a USB cable the mass storage notification now pops up so fast it startles me.
Finally a positive thread.. My phones doing good as well.. No update will be bugless..
Everything I use works great. But there are some tiny things...... but its the best gingerbread build I've ever run on the g2x that's for sure.
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Spyvie said:
Plugging in a USB cable the mass storage notification now pops up so fast it startles me.
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Not only that but if you try your gps you will get instant locks!
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Not only that but if you try your gps you will get instant locks!
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+1 same here!
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+1 same here!
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Is almost unreal, I'm so happy
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Not only that but if you try your gps you will get instant locks!
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Yes it does. Wohoo!
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Could someone answer these two questions please?
1. How's the battery life after the upgrade?
2. Can it be rooted? Is everything such as bluetooth ADP working fine?
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On my 3rd G2x and it has been solid cept for a few things, such as GPS taking up to 20 minutes to lock, apps being unable to be moved to SD-card, whenever adding an app or widget to the homescreen would lock up the phone for a bit and would take up to 5 minutes to pull up a list, eating through a battery down to 40% after a full charge within 3 hours of light use.
Granted I fixed almost all those issues by rooting it and applying fixes I discovered through this wonderful forum. From the GPS fix (it locked within about 20sec-3minutes, much better than before) and the pre-opt-dex patch that was put up here which totally helped when adding apps/widgets to the homescreen(3-10 seconds compared to the 5 minutes). To some battery monitoring apps and charging techniques that helped me get the best out of my battery, which saw a full charge last about 9 hours before it squealed to be plugged back in.
Now with Gingerbread finally installed the GPS lock is virtually instant, the apps/widgets are likewise, almost instant. The battery seems to be a bit better. I took it off the charger at 4pm and its still at 25% at this time (12:49am).
As odd as it seems, I look back and am thankful for the buggy G2X. While I really liked my Nexus One, I never really delved into the community much. It was a solid phone and never had any problem, save for the complete lack of space to put apps on it. The buggy G2x lead me to this wonderful forum which was full of people with helpful opinions and great tips. Through the assistance of everyone here I learned a lot more about the Android system and about phones in general. Coming from a big PC background (I like building and fixing them) I liked that the Android OS provided me with similar work around that I did when working on PC's.
So, while the initial experience with the phone was nightmarish, in retrospect I really learned something, it's good to know that there is a group of people dedicated to making sure we get the best out of our phones and freeing us from the shackles of the providers limitations on the phones (rooting rocks!!)
A note to T-Mobile and LG. Why did you rush this phone?!?! I would have gladly waited till July for a fully functional phone. Without Gingerbread this is one of the most powerful phones in the universe, with Gingerbread it can now take advantage of that power. It's not like the competition was putting out anything much better than the MyTouch4g at that time, yes the Atrix, but that was a buggy nightmare too. So what if the Sensation beat this to market, this has stock android, an arguably better (supported at least) GPU, and is rootable. I would have waited. Look right now, for my criteriahttp://blogs.computerworld.com/16755/android_user_interface for a phone my options are currently the G2X, Nexus S and....can't really think of anything else... So seriously, coming from a Nexus One, the obvious choice is the G2X. I would think that a decent chunk of the people reading this would agree.
same here
I was one of the lucky ones to have a G2x without issues
stock phone not rooted, update went thru without problems and the phone feels snappier; I do miss the original LG camera app though
It's good to hear everyone is happy with their phone...now I won't have to read about everyone jumping ship to the sensation.
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After the update my phone lost signal. For the baseband it says unknown. Does anyone know how to fix this?
mr.johnsexydavis911 said:
After the update my phone lost signal. For the baseband it says unknown. Does anyone know how to fix this?
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try doing a factory reset.
What's the process to get the Gingerbread? Is everyone updating through LG update then what are you flashing?
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After the update my phone lost signal. For the baseband it says unknown. Does anyone know how to fix this?
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uhhhh try restarting the phone first and see if that fixes it... otherwise you are going to have to throw CWM on there and restore to stock and try doing the update again OR wait until there is a flashable bootloader posted up which is likely to be soon...
You guys seem giddy as school girls. I'm going to have to try this rom today.
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And was it my imagination, or is the universally-despised "battery fully charged" pop-up gone now? (I charge overnight while I'm sleeping, so it could well be that I dismissed it in my sleep.)
Updated mine as i couldn't resist anymore. Only thing now is getting root access again.
I tried Super 1 Click Root 1.9.5 but no go. Has anyone succeeded in getting root after updating to 2.3.3? Please share your root info.
Thanks in advance.
UPDATE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179748
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And was it my imagination, or is the universally-despised "battery fully charged" pop-up gone now? (I charge overnight while I'm sleeping, so it could well be that I dismissed it in my sleep.)
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It's still there, :-( I guess I must have hit the dismiss button in my sleep yesterday morning when the alarm went off. I woke up before the alarm sounded this morning, and there was the pop-up, same as always. Oh, well...
I'd like to get the communities thoughts on this. It seems that to the app world the g2x won't get any support like it isn't relevant. Skype already added Sensation support for video calling, netflix we're still waiting motorola atrix has it, just got qik due to tmobile pressure (crap anyway). No google talk with video. Etc, etc. Is this device dead to the rest of the world? Seems like it.
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I'd like to get the communities thoughts on this. It seems that to the app world the g2x won't get any support like it isn't relevant. Skype already added Sensation support for video calling, netflix we're still waiting motorola atrix has it, just got qik due to tmobile pressure (crap anyway). No google talk with video. Etc, etc. Is this device dead to the rest of the world? Seems like it.
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most likely noone wants to put an app on this phone since tmobile continues to blame apps for the ****ty phones problems.
i refuse to do my rom for this phone because i cant determine if i caused a problem or the dirvers or the phone itself. its just not worth my time.
THan again they probably work with the phone developers to get these apps out and i would bet lg hasnt responded or done what is asked of them.
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most likely noone wants to put an app on this phone since tmobile continues to blame apps for the ****ty phones problems.
i refuse to do my rom for this phone because i cant determine if i caused a problem or the dirvers or the phone itself. its just not worth my time.
THan again they probably work with the phone developers to get these apps out and i would bet lg hasnt responded or done what is asked of them.
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I know what you mean. I have pretty much had my fill of the g2x debacle. I have had both the Sensation and the G2X since June 8, but I have finally decided to sell my G2X on craigslist. There's just no reason for me to keep it at this point, it's become more of a liability than anything.
well it's because all the exaggerated negative posts on this forum when the g2x was released and then when people google g2x and read this forum the power of suggestion leads them to believe that "yeah, there is flaws with the g2x" then they in turn start posting BS about so called "problems" on other g2x forums and then it spread like wild fire, making ppl who never even tried the phone to conclude the phone is a bust.
All the slanderous, false and exaggerated remarks about the G2x in the first 3 months never gave it a chance to shine and show it's true potential.
But those that know better, this phone is a Beast and definitley a keeper.
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I'd like to get the communities thoughts on this. It seems that to the app world the g2x won't get any support like it isn't relevant. Skype already added Sensation support for video calling, netflix we're still waiting motorola atrix has it, just got qik due to tmobile pressure (crap anyway). No google talk with video. Etc, etc. Is this device dead to the rest of the world? Seems like it.
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I've had the G2X since the day it came out. The only real issue I've had with it is a random reboot once every couple of days.
I'm MUCH more troubled by the recent trend of app support by phone model. That's the LAST thing Android needs now and it's mostly driven by DRM concerns rathern than technical ones.
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well it's because all the exaggerated negative posts on this forum when the g2x was released and then when people google g2x and read this forum the power of suggestion leads them to believe that "yeah, there is flaws with the g2x" then they in turn start posting BS about so called "problems" on other g2x forums and then it spread like wild fire, making ppl who never even tried the phone to conclude the phone is a bust.
All the slanderous, false and exaggerated remarks about the G2x in the first 3 months never gave it a chance to shine and show it's true potential.
But those that know better, this phone is a Beast and definitley a keeper.
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You can't be serious. Your saying that people are lying about their issues with the G2X? I had to purchase 5 G2X's to get a working one that didn't freeze or reboot a couple tines a day. If you want, I can show you my receipts for the returns so you don't think I'm a liar.
In my opinion, 1 out of 5 devices is not a good ratio. Was there people lying about problems they were having? Of course. There's trolls on every forum who don't own the device and just want to start giving other ones bad names. Are there people who have had multiple devices with the same exact problems. Yes, I'm one of them and there are people here who I trust who are reporting the same thing.
I agree, its a good device of you get a bug free version but lets be honest. Not everyone gets lucky.
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jacob808 said:
when people google g2x and read this forum the power of suggestion leads them to believe that "yeah, there is flaws with the g2x"
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LG acknowledged the problems with the phone before it was ever released in the U.S. They could have salvaged the phone and their reputation if they reacted back in March when they became aware of the problems. Instead, things got so bad T-Mobile pulled the phone. I don't think they did that because of what they read on this forum. Even today, after nine months of coding, the best LG can do is a GB ROM with A Froyo kernel. That's what screwed up the phone, not "the power of suggestion." And with the likelihood of future LG ROM and driver updates being pretty much non-existent that will effect the devs working on the phone.
So all those lock ups, battery pulls and random crap was all in my head? Thank you so much for the clarity. I feel better now.
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sorry
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well it's because all the exaggerated negative posts on this forum when the g2x was released and then when people google g2x and read this forum the power of suggestion leads them to believe that "yeah, there is flaws with the g2x" then they in turn start posting BS about so called "problems" on other g2x forums and then it spread like wild fire, making ppl who never even tried the phone to conclude the phone is a bust.
All the slanderous, false and exaggerated remarks about the G2x in the first 3 months never gave it a chance to shine and show it's true potential.
But those that know better, this phone is a Beast and definitley a keeper.
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But slander is thrown out when the statements are true. so therefore its not slander.
But your right. i have seen many phones get pulled from the carriers because of false accounts of user experiences... oh wait i have seen phones with just as many problems reported that were never pulled. so maybe that makes this one worse of all time?
jacob.. not sure if you work for tmobile or lg but it wont work sorry.
the phone has a bad rep for a good reason. and the same phone over seas had the same problmes 2 months before it was even released here. so you can thank LG for releasing a phone they already knew had big problems.
Glad you seemed to get one of the few early release phones that didnt have the problems. but just because you have 20 dollars in your pocket doesnt mean every does..get it... just becaue your phone worked doesnt mean everyone here is making something up. tmobile pulling the phone is all the proof needed.. if you can understand that than there is really no hope for you.
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You can't be serious. Your saying that people are lying about their issues with the G2X? I had to purchase 5 G2X's to get a working one that didn't freeze or reboot a couple tines a day. If you want, I can show you my receipts for the returns so you don't think I'm a liar.
In my opinion, 1 out of 5 devices is not a good ratio. Was there people lying about problems they were having? Of course. There's trolls on every forum who don't own the device and just want to start giving other ones bad names. Are there people who have had multiple devices with the same exact problems. Yes, I'm one of them and there are people here who I trust who are reporting the same thing.
I agree, its a good device of you get a bug free version but lets be honest. Not everyone gets lucky.
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I'll agree with this post. At first getting 5 good in a row I thought those with issues were nuts..
Then I received 2 bad ones after that, getting it free on a new line.. Nothing new on the phone and it froze and rebooted like crazy, 2 in a row... Now I finally got a good one again no issues.. So I had 2 bad out of 8. 25% bad vs good here, but its true, there are defective ones for sure that can't be fixed no matter what you do..... So ya its true there are good ones and there are bad. You will know in the first 12 hours...
When you get a non defective one there awesome..
So back to my question, do you guys also feel like this phone is now dead to the market?
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mr mystery said:
So back to my question, do you guys also feel like this phone is now dead to the market?
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I hope not. Love my phone.
But I do see what you mean, ignored by skype and Oovoo up until recently.
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I hope not. Love my phone.
But I do see what you mean, ignored by skype and Oovoo up until recently.
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Don't get me wrong I love my g2x as well, just bothered by the app support that doesn't appear to be changing.
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It's upsetting, because this phone blows the Sensation away
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mr mystery said:
So back to my question, do you guys also feel like this phone is now dead to the market?
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I'd have to say yes. Not only with the general market, but also on the development side. I can't see anyone else doing development for the G2x other than the great devs we already have.
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I hope not. Love my phone.
But I do see what you mean, ignored by skype and Oovoo up until recently.
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Oovoo on g2x has long been working. Skype ignores all tegra 2 devices not just g2x.
We only have few devs, especially if you came from hd2. Plus, we have had a lot of whiners few months back.
This past days, g2x forums in rootzwiki has been very active, even devs post their builds there first than here.
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Considering I'll never use Netflix or Skype, no, the G2x is not dead to the world. There are still what, 12 billion apps that can be used?
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Don't get me wrong I love my g2x as well, just bothered by the app support that doesn't appear to be changing.
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What app support? 3 programs? That's basis for the "APP WORLD HAS ABANDONED THE G2X?" Come on! Give me a break. I'm sure all the apps your heart is missing will soon enough be working on your phone.
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jose makalolot said:
Oovoo on g2x has long been working. Skype ignores all tegra 2 devices not just g2x.
We only have few devs, especially if you came from hd2. Plus, we have had a lot of whiners few months back.
This past days, g2x forums in rootzwiki has been very active, even devs post their builds there first than here.
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Oovoo didnt work for me for a minute. Even when I was stock it said device not supported.
It was only a few updates ago where I seen it say now supports G2x.
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Oovoo didnt work for me for a minute. Even when I was stock it said device not supported.
It was only a few updates ago where I seen it say now supports G2x.
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I've done a video chat using ooVoo twice on my G2X, after that, it just stopped working. It loads up, and the interface is EXTREMELY slow!
dkb218 said:
Considering I'll never use Netflix or Skype, no, the G2x is not dead to the world. There are still what, 12 billion apps that can be used?
What app support? 3 programs? That's basis for the "APP WORLD HAS ABANDONED THE G2X?" Come on! Give me a break. I'm sure all the apps your heart is missing will soon enough be working on your phone.
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3 of the most sought after and usable apps friend. Give me a break thanks.
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I don't know why I am sharing this here.
I have just listed my G2x on Amazon and Craigslist.
This phone continues to drop the signal. I am getting calls dropped (is there ANYTHING more annoying than dropping a call - especially when it is an important one?!), signal lost and everything that comes along with it.
NOTHING (nothing!) should overshadow this issue with the phone! Not dual-core, 8MB cam, ICS or battary life.
What isn't clear to me is WHY others are accepting this.
Perhaps though, this is is the reason that the G2x (despite being a phenomenal phone on paper) barely sells online and is hard to sell in general.
Perhaps we (the people who even care enough to join forums and so on), represent the minority.
Goodbye G2x!
I am back to the Vibrant (sadly
Dropped calls has nothing to do with the phone. Its your service. Good riddance.
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what do you mean it's my service? I am using TMobile. Before this I had the Vibrant - never dropped calls at my house. Now it's happening all the time.
I'm on T-Mobile and have maybe 4 dropped calls since April.
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What isn't clear to me is WHY others are accepting this.
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Probably because it isn't as widespread a problem as you're thinking it is. I'm on T-Mobile as well and my G2X gets great signal and call quality.
Not saying it's not a real issue for you, just saying its probably not a widespread issue for the majority of G2X users or I'm sure there'd be about 30 threads about it, all created within about a day of each other and all saying the same thing.
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Probably because it isn't as widespread a problem as you're thinking it is. I'm on T-Mobile as well and my G2X gets great signal and call quality.
Not saying it's not a real issue for you, just saying its probably not a widespread issue for the majority of G2X users or I'm sure there'd be about 30 threads about it, all created within about a day of each other and all saying the same thing.
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You are prob right about that. I don't know how to explain this then. Driving me crazy!
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You are prob right about that. I don't know how to explain this then. Driving me crazy!
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Do you have the newest baseband and a new SIM card?
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benyben123 said:
I don't know why I am sharing this here.
I have just listed my G2x on Amazon and Craigslist.
This phone continues to drop the signal. I am getting calls dropped (is there ANYTHING more annoying than dropping a call - especially when it is an important one?!), signal lost and everything that comes along with it.
NOTHING (nothing!) should overshadow this issue with the phone! Not dual-core, 8MB cam, ICS or battary life.
What isn't clear to me is WHY others are accepting this.
Perhaps though, this is is the reason that the G2x (despite being a phenomenal phone on paper) barely sells online and is hard to sell in general.
Perhaps we (the people who even care enough to join forums and so on), represent the minority.
Goodbye G2x!
I am back to the Vibrant (sadly
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Get a replacement from T-Mobile or get a loaner of another make/model of phone for T-Mobile and test its connectivity. If you know of any other T-Mobile customers with the same phone and/or a different phone, phone the same numbers from the same location and see what happens.
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Do you have the newest baaeband and a new SIM card?
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What's a baseband and how do I check to find out???
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What's a baseband and how do I check to find out???
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The baseband controls the phones wireless radios. Go to Settings > About Phone > Baseband version, should say MARCH or JULY somewhere in there.
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Core Memory said:
Get a replacement from T-Mobile or get a loaner of another make/model of phone for T-Mobile and test its connectivity. If you know of any other T-Mobile customers with the same phone and/or a different phone, phone the same numbers from the same location and see what happens.
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THANKS! My wife has the Vibrant! she is NOT dropping calls at the house at all.
benyben123 said:
What's a baseband and how do I check to find out???
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Baseband deals with the radios in the phone, go to Settings>About Phone
Then post the Baseband Version
EDIT: Too late haha
Sorry to here about your problems anyway, never experienced any of them thankfully
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The baseband controls the phones wireless radios. Go to Settings > About Phone > Baseband version, should say MARCH or JULY somewhere in there.
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Thank you
JULY 15
is that good ?
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Thank you
JULY 15
is that good ?
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Yeah, the July one is the better one. I would suggest a replacement phone and/or a new SIM card. I have never had a dropped call on my G2x, so it must be a bad phone or SIM card.
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I never knew it could be a SIM issue. I WILL CHECK THAT OUT !!!! Going to the TMobile store right now!
Will update.
Thank you all
IT WAS THE SIM CARD INDEED !!!!!
Part of the reason I posted this here, is because I knew the good people of XDA will start a brainstorming discussion.
My other SIM card was very bad looking, and it is now changed to a NEW one. The TMobile representative said that I MUST change my sim card when she saw it.
I AM VERY HAPPY I posted my situation here!!!
No lost calls (did a 20 min call to test it) for now - but obviously will check on that more to confirm
THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL YOUR HELP
(and thank you not for the guy that decided to send me a message saying "U think we care"?!)
Nice to hear that. Despite the other issues with g2x, I never had dropped calls. Speaker could be better but for calls, phone is reliable.
Another happy g2x
thank you!!!
UPDATE: The dropping of call continues! Just drop a call 5 times (!!!) within an hour. This morning as well.
Thanks
benyben123 said:
UPDATE: The dropping of call continues! Just drop a call 5 times (!!!) within an hour. This morning as well.
Thanks
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1. Are you running the stock firmware?
2. Has this issue continued from the time you purchased the phone up until now.
3. Does the issue appear to be location specific? The reason I ask is because you stated it was working after the SIM was replaced then come back 24 hours later saying you had problems again.
4. Have you tried contacting T-Mobile customer support? They most likely won't be able to solve your issue if it is a problem with your handset (beyond trying a SIM swap, they will have you try your SIM in another known working handset typically, to isolate your device) but they will be able to rule out issues with your account, the network, etc.