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I wonder if this would work on the x10, anyone try it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010807
UPDATE:
svtfmook has the info on how to do this via scriptmanager here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013554
Bialynia said:
I wonder if this would work on the x10, anyone try it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010807
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there is app for this in the market. i use it to speed up my sd card reading
i tried manually applied it but failed.. lol. use the apps sdcard booster instead.. working fine.. noticeable speed increase.
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there is app for this in the market. i use it to speed up my sd card reading
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I'm running 2.1 rooted, the market app is 2.2 and above, won't show up for me.
u can try manually apply it.
/sys/devices/virtual/bdi/17:1/read_ahead_kb
change the value inside the read_ahead to 2048 or 3072
the italic, im nt sure its 17:1 or 17, something bout 17 im sure. inside got the read ahead
tis method however, change back to default after reboot
I tried the hack. Changed cache size from 128 to 2048. Write speeds stayed the same, but read speeds went up by about 5Mb/s. My SD card is crap tho, only a class 2. I also only tried the one cache size.
How big of a difference is noticeable between class 2 and class 6?........thinkin bout gettin rid of my class 2 16g if it makes a big improvement
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Pretty noticeable, using a class 6 16gb increases all data retrieval speed eg contacts, pictures, apps on SD etc. Defo worth it.
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Thanks...grabbing one today.....haha on sale for $30...... cant go wrong
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any solution for this on GENERIC X10i 2.1.1.A.0.6 ??
Using app on froyo 2.2 phone feels smoother
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I have set it up to 2048 and it i have see a large affect of the speed of sd card.... But when my device reboot it is again at 128....Any idea to set it up permantely ?
pficrx said:
I have set it up to 2048 and it i have see a large affect of the speed of sd card.... But when my device reboot it is again at 128....Any idea to set it up permantely ?
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Using the app i can set at boot
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there is no init.d on stock x10, so i set the file "99sdcardreadfix" to "run as root" and "run at boot" with "script manager" (free available at market).
The code working for me:
Code:
#!/system/xbin/sh
if [ -e /sys/devices/virtual/bdi/179:0/read_ahead_kb ]
then
/system/xbin/echo "[COLOR="Red"]3072[/COLOR]" > /sys/devices/virtual/bdi/179:0/read_ahead_kb;
fi
3072 was working best for me with the stock sd card.
read: 3,8
write: 73,4
If another value works better with your sd card, just change the red number to what you need
My best results
I have a SA32G (32GB) and the best results i got where with the buffer at 3456KB. Let me know if that works for anyone and if you find it helped let me know with a quick click on the 'thanks' button!
@Eisel89 Whats the ending on the 99sdcardreadfix? is it just a .bat? thanks
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I have a SA32G (32GB) and the best results i got where with the buffer at 3456KB. Let me know if that works for anyone and if you find it helped let me know with a quick click on the 'thanks' button!
@Eisel89 Whats the ending on the 99sdcardreadfix? is it just a .bat? thanks
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there is no ending to this file.
simply 99sdcardreadfix without dot and ending
i posted this in the general forum last week
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013554
for 2.2 roms, you need to edit the script because echo is in bin, not xbin
download and use scriptmanager from the market, it will allow the script to run at boot.
works great on my 2.1 and 2.2 roms.
devs are not including this in their roms and no scripts are needed.
Thanks! That really did the trick for me, I am set at 1024 now, read speeds went up slightly between 6-7 mb/s while read speeds are around 25mb/s. I could get higher read speeds at higher cache but my write speeds would go down
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Hi
I just wanted to point out that read ahead buffer is not a real SD card performance booster. It is the way how your OS handles card reading and buffering data. I agree that illusion of speedup is present and large data set can really benefit from big read ahead buffer (like video audio and some others).
If you try other SD speed test applications like "Sst" aka "SD Card Speed Test" changing read ahead buffer will not make a dent because software is not using buffers to test real performance.
In some cases big buffer can really degrade performance because OS is cashing something that was not needed.
So my advice is to thread carefully and make read ahead buffer bigger only if you suffer from dropped frames in video or audio players, games and if you use app2sd.
Real performance boost can only obtained with better SD card driver if possible (custom kernel) and better SD card class 6 if possible. (not all SD card's regardless of class will not work in your device as expected eg. Kingston SanDisc Apacer and others research before you buy)
Kradovan
kradovan said:
Hi
I just wanted to point out that read ahead buffer is not a real SD card performance booster. It is the way how your OS handles card reading and buffering data. I agree that illusion of speedup is present and large data set can really benefit from big read ahead buffer (like video audio and some others).
If you try other SD speed test applications like "Sst" aka "SD Card Speed Test" changing read ahead buffer will not make a dent because software is not using buffers to test real performance.
In some cases big buffer can really degrade performance because OS is cashing something that was not needed.
So my advice is to thread carefully and make read ahead buffer bigger only if you suffer from dropped frames in video or audio players, games and if you use app2sd.
Real performance boost can only obtained with better SD card driver if possible (custom kernel) and better SD card class 6 if possible. (not all SD card's regardless of class will not work in your device as expected eg. Kingston SanDisc Apacer and others research before you buy)
Kradovan
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gallery loads faster, access times are reduced, it's not an illusion and it is an improvement without sacraficing anything else.
Hello,
i released version 1.5.0 of my SD-Booster app on the market right now.
Changelog:
- New: Native Android 3.x (Honeycomb) support
- New: MMC detection framework to support any SD-Card
- New: Display current used cache size with colored terms. (red = small size, yellow = medium size, green = optimal size)
- New: Animated/colored buttons
- New: Background wallpaper
- Include some minor bugfixes in previous versions
More user options (settings) will be shipped with the next version!
Coming soon: New features will be released with version 2.0.
Android Market-Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=de.mehrmann.sdbooster
AppBrain-Link: http://www.appbrain.com/app/sd-booster/de.mehrmann.sdbooster
xda-developer-Link: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/sd-booster-for-android/
App description:
SD-Booster speeds up your SD-Card (external memory-card) up to 40 times! Enjoy a new feeling of speed on your Android smartphone anytime and everywhere you are. Starting apps, listing to your favorite music or just swapping data with your PC ? Whatever you do, the SD-Booster improve your phone speed!
SD-Booster needs root permission to run, otherwhise SD-Booster can't do anything!
For experts only: App works with read_ahead_kb value
Some few words about this version. Well, this release 1.5.0 feels more or less like version 2.0 "light". I'm currently on the way to version 2.0. At a special point i noticed that my predecessor version 1.02 include some nasty bugs, but i didn't like the idea of a small update (1.0.3).
So, i took my current developer version and removed a lot of stuff (unstable or just not ready code) and version 1.5.0 was born. The number "5" tells you i'm on the half way to version 2.0 ;-)
However, the most interesting fact is that this release is shipped with my own MMC-Detect-Framework. What does it means for you? Well, this framework should support any internal and external SD-Card out there. No more "static coded paths" should be used.
A special thank you goes to androidnews.de! Without this german online magazine SD-Booster would never exist.
Regards
Akusari
PS: If the app shows any error, please post a catlog. Thanks!
Just downloaded and trying out your app. Getting alot of good reviews on the market and if the performance difference I have seen in the last few remains I will be adding one more. Great work and thanks for the app.
Tap-a-Talked from my Mesmerize
BTW: If someone could create a better SD-Booster logo (SD-Card image at the top (160x160)) i would be pretty happy. I'm a poor graphic designer
Gonna give it an install. I have noticed more slowdowns than usual with my SDcard maybe this will help me out.
Nice! Thank-you
Sweeeet!
Works great at a value of 2048 with Wildfire S-Off with Alpharev X
CHeers
Sweet. Thanks. Testing now!
I´ve tested on my Galaxy SII with a Kingston 16GB Class 10 SD and it slowed down the system.
The most significant problem was in reading 1080p videos from my SD where before the App were runing smooth and after the App (Configured with a 2048K Cache size) started to chopp and freeze the video.
Just to let you know, maybe is a device especifics and could help to understands why this happens.
Thank You,
Akusari said:
SD-Booster speeds up your SD-Card (external memory-card) up to 40 times!
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Can you describe in more detail how exactly your app is doing this? Are you increasing the read-ahead cache size, or somehow changing the I/O block size? Does it cache writes or enable write clustering? How would this affect large sequential transfers vs. small random access? Does it affect reads differently than writes?
I'm already using AutoKiller Memory Optimizer, which has it's own "SD card tweak" (increases the read-ahead cache), so I want to make sure both apps aren't fighting for the controls.
Akusari said:
BTW: If someone could create a better SD-Booster logo (SD-Card image at the top (160x160)) i would be pretty happy. I'm a poor graphic designer
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How's about this one I quickly threw together, it's 159x144.
Well, it works!
I have a Samsung Fascinate running CommRom 2.1, and went from 7.8 write speed to 8.3. I know thats not much of an improvement, but the big upgrade was going from 14.9 read speed to 22.4 I'm a happy customer!
leogeeko said:
I´ve tested on my Galaxy SII with a Kingston 16GB Class 10 SD and it slowed down the system.
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can anyone confirm it runs faster in real world applications? Don't do any benchmarks or count on your "feeling it's totally faster".
MuF123 said:
can anyone confirm it runs faster in real world applications? Don't do any benchmarks or count on your "feeling it's totally faster".
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Definitely sped up the population of gallery app with thumbnails, on Desire HD with 2048 cache size.
hi
i have the htc inspire 4g
with coredroid rom
cpu master free overclock to 1600mhz
8gb class 10 kingston microsd
what do you recommend?
Will I lose all my data on my SD card?
spitfire209 said:
Will I lose all my data on my SD card?
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I think noone lost data on his/her SDcard by doing this hack, however there is no warranty you won't be the first that will lose all your data. Do a backup
Doktaphex said:
How's about this one I quickly threw together, it's 159x144.
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Yeah, it looks not bad at all
We do the rest via PM.
regards,
Akusari
i'm using 2048K on LG Optimus Black + TEAM 8GB class 10 card, media scanner + game loads a bit faster now.
Updated as per your suggestions.
Yes, this one looks nice
Hi,..sorry if its been asked before.
Ive looked for the swapfile thats been autoload on O3D, in froyo i found 120000 as default value, and on leaked gb by indoptimus i found 122880. Is it safe to raise the value, ive tried to raise it to 322680 (in my noob thought its 320mb), with default swappiness (60). then i open terminal and check free memory, its read as i changed. so im asking to the pro here (i mean any1 here except me /cause im noob), is it safe to change it? And where is the actual swapfile place ? Is it internal sd, eksternal sd, or inside internal sd partition (cause we lost much memory from our internal sd from the beginning).
thanks for all reply, pardon me for my bad english, and sorry for these noobs question.
edit : did my self an experiment,...idk but it seem the cpu clock is working better now / more efficient (checking with System tuner pro). do a multitasking (3 app / camera, dolphine browser, yahoo messenger, and the cpu remains under 60% usage /average.
Well it is a file swapfile partition that Andora used as paging. But here's where the theory, the bigger the better??? I take up room? etc, etc, etc.
Normally you use a paging 128 mg. This is how we have configured on your terminal. To say that the swap partition is created on the phone's internal memory, Osea in the 8 gigs. It saves space and from my point of view and experience of the HD2, not noticeable veneficios between 128 and 256, much less to 512mg.
Whether 128 is more than enough.
Thanks for your reply acura, its help me to know better. what i still dont understand is, o3d is come with 8gb of internal memory, and when we power on, its only give us less than 5gb free space, even if i uninstall bla bla bla apk from the system apk, its still not come even near 7gb. Does the rom took internal space?
do we have a chance to raise our ram to 1gb? Or is it a separated hardware?
danielkaboom said:
Thanks for your reply acura, its help me to know better. what i still dont understand is, o3d is come with 8gb of internal memory, and when we power on, its only give us less than 5gb free space, even if i uninstall bla bla bla apk from the system apk, its still not come even near 7gb. Does the rom took internal space?
do we have a chance to raise our ram to 1gb? Or is it a separated hardware?
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well you uninstallthis and that and still your phone boots ain't it? all in all at least one gig is reserved for system android etc
jimakos29 said:
well you uninstallthis and that and still your phone boots ain't it? all in all at least one gig is reserved for system android etc
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yup,..still boot and running just fine,..1 thing i notice is that now the HotPlug govenor is doing its job faster,..i mean, open app a, b and c, then i go to system tuner pro to check cpu usage before i put it to standby mode, and its really fast to get lower from 1ghz to 800mhz, 600mhz and stay at 300mhz(mostly single core is active), and the usage is between 5% - 25%.
power on back, open 3d games, press home menu, and check again, its dual core are running in about 70%-100% on 800mhz-1ghz.
guess im more enjoying my phone now,..less overheat on the display when the screen is up for browsing, playing.
whats still bothering me is, is it safe to put it that way? i mean, ive heard that swapfile sometimes must be formatted to get clean,..is it true? and if its true, how can i formatted it (ramzswap0 located in /dev/block/ramzswap0). for now, what i did is just swappoff it and then swappon it,...in hope to get it clean file (LOL,..noob way). any suggestion?
acura2201 said:
Well it is a file swapfile partition that Andora used as paging. But here's where the theory, the bigger the better??? I take up room? etc, etc, etc.
Normally you use a paging 128 mg. This is how we have configured on your terminal. To say that the swap partition is created on the phone's internal memory, Osea in the 8 gigs. It saves space and from my point of view and experience of the HD2, not noticeable veneficios between 128 and 256, much less to 512mg.
Whether 128 is more than enough.
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so basically whats better?
in Atrix 2 , what is the best value in your phone+Class X card ?
I've tested no matter I set it to 4MB , 3MB or 2MB , the speed is the same
BUT
in case of 4MB and 3MB , there are some lags after about 100MB copies but it's continuously smooth if I set it to 2MB.
My card is Class 10 32GB.
Don't you experience missing apps or photos from your sd card in your Atrix 2?
I tried 2MB before, but so no difference, I am running at the stock cache setting now with no (or very minimal) performance hit. I think increasing the cache really makes a difference when you start running apps and caches (dalvic and system cache) from the SDCard. We really don't need to do that since we have enough space on the internal (and faster) memory. I suggest running 100% of your apps on your internal memory, 4GB is plenty of space for apps.
The stock values will do just fine for accessing media (music, videos, pics) and files from your SDCard. Your mileage may vary, this is based on my experience and usage, yours could be different.
I have a 32GB class 4, and I do not loose pics or apps (none are installed on the card).
mathk said:
in Atrix 2 , what is the best value in your phone+Class X card ?
I've tested no matter I set it to 4MB , 3MB or 2MB , the speed is the same
BUT
in case of 4MB and 3MB , there are some lags after about 100MB copies but it's continuously smooth if I set it to 2MB.
My card is Class 10 32GB.
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Be careful, several of us have had issues with cards that are higher than class 6 with the Atrix 2. People have lost pictures, mp3s, etc. We are thinking that these higher class cards are just not compatible at this time.
Sharpshooterrr said:
Don't you experience missing apps or photos from your sd card in your Atrix 2?
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no matter how much cache I set, it does lose some files . I would say it's the same issue as the old old milestone.... they did improve nothing in these 2 years...
lilhaiti said:
We really don't need to do that since we have enough space on the internal (and faster) memory. I suggest running 100% of your apps on your internal memory, 4GB is plenty of space for apps.
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I really don't get this - at least when it comes to games. Recent Gameloft games consume a lot of storage, some exceeding over 1GB. So you're basically down to 3 quarters of your internal storage with just one app installed.
I really don't see that as enough. Or am I missing something here.
By the way, I'm still stuck on my iPhone 4. Owned an Android device before but sold it after 2 weeks. Looking to give Android another chance.
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mathk said:
no matter how much cache I set, it does lose some files . I would say it's the same issue as the old old milestone.... they did improve nothing in these 2 years...
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Well, following what jimbridgman said, your Class 10 card seems to be the culprit.
WOW!!! A game over 1GB? Which one. I have over 140 apps installed on my phone (most of them games) and I have PLENTY of space available (3.12GB to be exact). So even if I did install a game that was 1GB, I would have plenty of room for a lot more "regular" sized apps. Now, a lot of games do save additional files on the SDCard; although large, I have not seen an additional game download over 1GB. If I am missing something please enlighten me.
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WOW!!! A game over 1GB? Which one. I have over 140 apps installed on my phone (most of them games) and I have PLENTY of space available (3.12GB to be exact). So even if I did install a game that was 1GB, I would have plenty of room for a lot more "regular" sized apps. Now, a lot of games do save additional files on the SDCard; although large, I have not seen an additional game download over 1GB. If I am missing something please enlighten me.
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The gameloft HD games can reach close to that size to see them though...need to edit ur build.prop its explained in a different post so look it up if interested
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Now, a lot of games do save additional files on the SDCard
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Those games that do save additional files on the SD card, do they go missing when you reboot your phone?
About games that eat up a lot of storage, Backstab HD requires about 650mb, I think. Dungeon Defenders 2 needs over 600mb. Modern Combat 3 takes around 900mb.
Sharpshooterrr said:
I really don't get this - at least when it comes to games. Recent Gameloft games consume a lot of storage, some exceeding over 1GB. So you're basically down to 3 quarters of your internal storage with just one app installed.
I really don't see that as enough. Or am I missing something here.
By the way, I'm still stuck on my iPhone 4. Owned an Android device before but sold it after 2 weeks. Looking to give Android another chance.
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Well, following what jimbridgman said, your Class 10 card seems to be the culprit.
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I do think the cause is the firmware but not the class 10 card . the card is just a ... trigger... You just can't say the knife as the killer , right ?
(P.S. my milestone didn't have such problem after flashing it to CM7...atrix 2... um .... we need to wait)
OK...to clarify. The actual install files and caches are the only things that can be saved in internal memory. The large "additional data" downloads can only be stored on the SDCard. The install files usually get up to around 50MB (sometimes a little more, most times a lot less). The addition download files can get very large (sometimes over 1GB).
To further clarify, the 4GB of internal storage is plenty space for plenty of install files caches. The problem becomes real if you install a game with a large additional download on a phone with the small stock SDCard (2GB). If you install a game that has 1GB of additional downloads you are down to less that half of the available space.
The additional downloads don't seem to be effected by the disappearing problem.
TL;DR Ramexpander set at 4gb swap file makes all the difference for this tablet
A little background: I've been modifying my phones since the galaxy nexus. I've tried greenify, amplify, debloating, kernels, overclocking, cleaning, l-speed, etc. I like to run a lot of apps, and all of my phones and devices, including the Nexus 6p (until the Pixel XL) lagged. RamExpander has been the solution every time, and the fire hd is no different. This one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.swapit.expander.de&hl=en .
Use the free version here to check if your device is compatible: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.roehsoft.meminfo&hl=en but I know a rooted 2017 Hd 10 running 5.6 is compatible.
Maybe your device runs perfectly already and/or you're using less apps. That's great! But I have seen a few threads about trying to optimize performance. IF your device lags, this app will make an immediate night and day difference.
I'll give it a try
I have L Speed and Greenify installed on all of my rooted Android devices. Could you please explain to us how RAMEXPANDER is better than L Speed/Greenify? I'm curious. I'll do anything to optimize these Fire HDs even more. I rooted them and installed Google everything on them so my parents don't have to deal with the Fire OS.
Is Ram Expander really worth $10? I wanted to try it and found an APK. The damned thing was contaminated with neverending ads appearing every 10 seconds... I had to uninstall and run Malwarebytes to get the tablet working fine again. I assume the "real" paid version has no crappy ads?
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bakshi said:
I have L Speed and Greenify installed on all of my rooted Android devices. Could you please explain to us how RAMEXPANDER is better than L Speed/Greenify? I'm curious. I'll do anything to optimize these Fire HDs even more. I rooted them and installed Google everything on them so my parents don't have to deal with the Fire OS.
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I know Greenify already and use it on my tablets and cell phones. But it's the 1st time ever I hear about L Speed. Is it complicated to set up?
The 2GB memory is pretty limited, and disabling some Amazon services and avoiding apps that remain persistent in memory is highly recommended. I installed the official Google app to get Google Assistant, but found that it used too much ram. I recommended installing system monitor and monitoring the active processes, sorted by ram usage, to identify bloated user apps.
bakshi said:
I have L Speed and Greenify installed on all of my rooted Android devices. Could you please explain to us how RAMEXPANDER is better than L Speed/Greenify? I'm curious. I'll do anything to optimize these Fire HDs even more. I rooted them and installed Google everything on them so my parents don't have to deal with the Fire OS.
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so what ram expander does is it's just a super easy way to setup a swap file (space on the internal sd card that will be used as RAM). Why is it better than all the other stuff I've tried? It's empirical, not logical. That is to say, every phone that's lagged, if RAMEXPANDER is compatible, I've installed and it's made a huge difference in performance, every single time. I've messed around with a lot of optimization tools beforehand and results have been mixed. I can improve battery life usually, but the phone will still lag, with those tools and with all the apps i run. Also, each tool is just more strain on the system.
metaleloi666 said:
Is Ram Expander really worth $10? I wanted to try it and found an APK. The damned thing was contaminated with neverending ads appearing every 10 seconds... I had to uninstall and run Malwarebytes to get the tablet working fine again. I assume the "real" paid version has no crappy ads?
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I know Greenify already and use it on my tablets and cell phones. But it's the 1st time ever I hear about L Speed. Is it complicated to set up?
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I've never seen an add in the app. You got a bad APK.
An alternative, I've found, though less intuitive is an app called apps2sd. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.co.pricealert.apps2sd&hl=en
It's a little less intuitive, but basically when you open the app, you get a bunch of tools to choose from. If you choose the SWAP menu, you can create a SWAP Partition on the /data partition. 4gb has been working amazingly for me. Then go to settings and check the "apply swap on boot" (after you test it for a while, and you're happy and everything's stable).
L-speed has a lot of options. It's got a few profiles, but I'm not sure that they actually work. With some messing around you can get a little improvement here and there (or maybe it's placebo). Sometimes an update of L-speed will bootloop your device, but I only use it on devices I have an nandroid ready to go on.
SWAP, through ram expander or apps2sd, makes a night and day difference compared to any other tool I've tried.
Does Ram Expander starts automatically at each reboot or it has to be started manually each time?
mistermojorizin said:
so what ram expander does is it's just a super easy way to setup a swap file (space on the internal sd card that will be used as RAM). Why is it better than all the other stuff I've tried? It's empirical, not logical. That is to say, every phone that's lagged, if RAMEXPANDER is compatible, I've installed and it's made a huge difference in performance, every single time. I've messed around with a lot of optimization tools beforehand and results have been mixed. I can improve battery life usually, but the phone will still lag, with those tools and with all the apps i run. Also, each tool is just more strain on the system.
I've never seen an add in the app. You got a bad APK.
An alternative, I've found, though less intuitive is an app called apps2sd. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.co.pricealert.apps2sd&hl=en
It's a little less intuitive, but basically when you open the app, you get a bunch of tools to choose from. If you choose the SWAP menu, you can create a SWAP Partition on the /data partition. 4gb has been working amazingly for me. Then go to settings and check the "apply swap on boot" (after you test it for a while, and you're happy and everything's stable).
L-speed has a lot of options. It's got a few profiles, but I'm not sure that they actually work. With some messing around you can get a little improvement here and there (or maybe it's placebo). Sometimes an update of L-speed will bootloop your device, but I only use it on devices I have an nandroid ready to go on.
SWAP, through ram expander or apps2sd, makes a night and day difference compared to any other tool I've tried.
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Thanks for this. Just did this with app2sd and working great!
metaleloi666 said:
Does Ram Expander starts automatically at each reboot or it has to be started manually each time?
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metaleloi666 said:
Is Ram Expander really worth $10? I wanted to try it and found an APK. The damned thing was contaminated with neverending ads appearing every 10 seconds... I had to uninstall and run Malwarebytes to get the tablet working fine again. I assume the "real" paid version has no crappy ads?
Here is a link for the premium: https://uplod.cc/4ogqacud4av9
If that doesn't work, check this link out: https://apk4free.net/roehsoft-ram-expander/
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I keep trying to install this (the Google Play store version of ROEHSOFT RAM Expander) on a Fire HD10 with root via Kingoroot. I'm trying to install the swap disk on the SD card, and I'm getting an error message:
You have a Limited Kernel
Kernel Swapspace Limit detected! please reduce the Swapfile Size lower 1GB! and try again!
This happens no matter what size I pick for the swap file on the SD card.
If I try to use the same company's "test" app (MemoryInfo-SwapCheck), I get this error message:
Path Error
This Path is not usable for Swap!
I can verify that both apps are successfully creating the swap file on the SD card (swapfile.swp or swaptestf.swp, depending on which app I'm using).
I've tried both systems 5.5.0.0 and 5.6.0.1 and I get the same error message on either. I've tried installing it on a completely fresh install of both, with only Kingoroot, SuperSU, Google Play, and RAM Expander installed (in that order). I've also tried swapping out SD cards, and get the same error on both.
This software does work properly if I install the swap file on internal memory, but I'd prefer not to do that, since I can't replace the internal memory if I wear it out.
The weird thing is, I could swear it was working properly before (a couple of weeks ago), but nothing is getting this to work now. It's possible I was mistaken and had accidentally chosen the internal memory, but I don't think so.
Anyone have any clue about what's going on?
GamerOfRassilon said:
I keep trying to install this (the Google Play store version of ROEHSOFT RAM Expander) on a Fire HD10 with root via Kingoroot. I'm trying to install the swap disk on the SD card, and I'm getting an error message...
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To respond to myself (in case anyone else has this problem in the future):
For some reason, this software doesn't work if you set the path to /storage/sdcard1 (It will create the swap file, but then it gives the error message I described).
Instead, you have to use:
/mnt/media_rw/sdcard1
Then it works totally fine.
Also, if it's useful (and saves anyone else time), here are the values that each option of this software generates on the HD10:
multitasking
SwpFile = 3000MB
Swappiness = 100
MinFreeKB = 54MB
DriveCache(KB) = 4096
balanced
SwpFile = 3000MB
Swappiness = 100
MinFreeKB = 62MB
DriveCache(KB) = 8192
gamers
SwpFile = 3000MB
Swappiness = 100
MinFreeKB = 62MB
DriveCache(KB) = 16384
net gamers
SwpFile = 3000MB
Swappiness = 100
MinFreeKB = 4MB
DriveCache(KB) = 1024
I have no idea what those options mean or do, but I went with "balanced" (since it seemed pretty middle of the road) but with SwpFile set to 4000MB instead of 3000MB.
Ramexpander etc.
I've paid for and been using RAMExpander for awhile now. It's a good app, and worth the money. That being said, App2SD is also an incredibly useful app, Pro or no. L-Speed is great as well. One thing to note, from what I've researched, editing your zram is also helpful as it compresses items in memory to free up space, and it is prioritized over Swap. Using the two in conjunction (having a zram file (250-500 MB seems to do the trick but you could probably go lower) and a decent sized swap file(mine is 8GB but I suspect this is massive overkill and 4 would work)) has left me with little to no lag, especially when paired with L-Speed's other exceptional tweaks. Jade Empire and Kotor run with 0 lag at top graphical settings.
Hope this helped clear up any questions.
Edit: If you use App2SD's partition manager you can set yourself up with a partition dedicated exclusively to Swap, then in Ramexpander change swap location to this partition in the settings. Ramexpander tops you out at 4GB, doing this is a good way to increase that threshold.
mistermojorizin said:
so what ram expander does is it's just a super easy way to setup a swap file (space on the internal sd card that will be used as RAM). Why is it better than all the other stuff I've tried? It's empirical, not logical. That is to say, every phone that's lagged, if RAMEXPANDER is compatible, I've installed and it's made a huge difference in performance, every single time. I've messed around with a lot of optimization tools beforehand and results have been mixed. I can improve battery life usually, but the phone will still lag, with those tools and with all the apps i run. Also, each tool is just more strain on the system.
I've never seen an add in the app. You got a bad APK.
An alternative, I've found, though less intuitive is an app called apps2sd. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.co.pricealert.apps2sd&hl=en
It's a little less intuitive, but basically when you open the app, you get a bunch of tools to choose from. If you choose the SWAP menu, you can create a SWAP Partition on the /data partition. 4gb has been working amazingly for me. Then go to settings and check the "apply swap on boot" (after you test it for a while, and you're happy and everything's stable).
L-speed has a lot of options. It's got a few profiles, but I'm not sure that they actually work. With some messing around you can get a little improvement here and there (or maybe it's placebo). Sometimes an update of L-speed will bootloop your device, but I only use it on devices I have an nandroid ready to go on.
SWAP, through ram expander or apps2sd, makes a night and day difference compared to any other tool I've tried.
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Blaiser47 said:
Thanks for this. Just did this with app2sd and working great!
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How did you set it up?
I swaped it on Sd card on my j7 & it became to freeze & became super slow...
What about using BK Disabler?
ThisCrimsonDiscordia said:
I've paid for and been using RAMExpander for awhile now. It's a good app, and worth the money. That being said, App2SD is also an incredibly useful app, Pro or no. L-Speed is great as well. One thing to note, from what I've researched, editing your zram is also helpful as it compresses items in memory to free up space, and it is prioritized over Swap. Using the two in conjunction (having a zram file (250-500 MB seems to do the trick but you could probably go lower) and a decent sized swap file(mine is 8GB but I suspect this is massive overkill and 4 would work)) has left me with little to no lag, especially when paired with L-Speed's other exceptional tweaks. Jade Empire and Kotor run with 0 lag at top graphical settings.
Hope this helped clear up any questions.
Edit: If you use App2SD's partition manager you can set yourself up with a partition dedicated exclusively to Swap, then in Ramexpander change swap location to this partition in the settings. Ramexpander tops you out at 4GB, doing this is a good way to increase that threshold.
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Just out of curiosity, what are your L Speed settings?
I went with App2SD and L-Speed after reading this thread, and wow, it's practically a different experience, a different tablet. If you aren't doing something similar you're purposefully using a tablet that is gimped.
Here are the settings I went with:
App2SD swap is set to 4GB and placed in /data.
L-Speed has everything turned on as it would when first installed.
RAM Manager is set to balanced, seems like more than enough and I don't want to be plugged in frequently.
zRAM Optimization is set to on.
I then went back to swap settings and set the zRAM to priority 0 and /data set to 1.
Turned improved scrolling on.
Everything else was left as is, for now.
I can't believe this is the same tablet I was using a week ago.
No need for Greenify with this combination.
What size should i set the swap partition to?
Since the swap will be on the sd card, should I go with the Samsung MicroSDXC EVO Plus which has 100/60 read/write rates or the Samsung PRO Endurance which has better reliability (designed for continuous writes) in the long run but only 100/30 read/write?
lanbladez said:
What size should i set the swap partition to?
Since the swap will be on the sd card, should I go with the Samsung MicroSDXC EVO Plus which has 100/60 read/write rates or the Samsung PRO Endurance which has better reliability (designed for continuous writes) in the long run but only 100/30 read/write?
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You could probably get away with 2GB, honestly. In which case, I'd really suggest putting it on internal in /data.
Just one less I/O delay (even if seemingly trivial, will cause lag) to deal with.
If you're going with putting the swap on an SD rather than internal, definitely the fastest SD you can use. :fingers-crossed:
If you must put it on the SD, at the least create a zram "swap" on internal, it only has to be ~150-300MB.