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Just curious to know why you gave up on the Vibrant?
I bought the Vibrant on launch day - LOVED IT....
Then.... the GPS problems started... and seemed to get worse over time, to the point where the phone was rebooting itself when I used the GPS for more than just a few minutes (regardless of the app).
I updated to JI6 when it was released by Samsung since it was supposed to fix the issues, or at least make them a little better. HA! I used GPS that night on the way home, had a strong GPS lock... I was about half way home and looked down and it showed me in the middle of a river. What was truely laughable was that it was saying accurate to within 30 feet - and ever better was that the river it showed me in the middle of was over a mile away!
I swapped the Vibrant for a Nexus One, but after having seen the performance of the MT4G and the fact that everything I ever had rooted for before on other phones was right there ready to go stock-out-of-the-box on the MyTouch, I made the leap.
Something else that sold me - the screen. I can actually read the screen in sunlight better than I could the Nexus... Sure, the Vibrant was a little better in that area than the Nexus, but still not as good as this.
Oh yes - the front facing camera was a selling point as well. A lot of my friends (I say that term loosely since I dont like being associated with crApple fans!) have iphones and use video chat a lot via Tango - I just wanted to be part of the crowd without further lining Job's pockets and no way in hell was I going to AT&T.
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Just curious to know why you gave up on the Vibrant?
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Led notifications, ffc, samsung, and one of the main reasons... The horrible plastic feel
Samshitty, need I say more? Hardware not in sync with software does no good at all. Myt4G= Latest operating system, better processor/hardware, ffc, desk clock(best), FM radio, Sense (Love it) pinch to zoom email, best browser, better gaming, Genius button, no lag, less expensive,wifi calling, More ram (768), best battery to date, everything just works and is included. Unlike the predecessors, no need for make-shifts to get the stuff we want. It is more of a complete package then any Android phone to date.
I'm gonna keep using both but the mytouch is the superior phone. For me, the overall function of the mytouch is the reason. There are some things that the vibrant does do better though - 1. The samoled on the vibrant is definitely better (I love the true blacks and contrast ratio on this thing) 2. The speakers are also noticeably better with richer and fuller sound 3. The GPU is also more capable 4. Audio quality for media is better (mytouch and HTC phones in general have too much bass and not enough detail) 5. The camera while lacking flash is more capable 5. The multitouch, responsiveness, and feel of the screen is better 6. And the last thing is the notification bar is the best I've seen on an Android phone (the ability to have those toggle settings, change brightness by swiping, and change music tracks are amazing). Everything else, the mytouch does better. 1) GPS is much better 2) Solid feel while the vibrant felt plastic and creaked 3)FFC 3. Camera flash 4. Froyo 5. Optical trackpad 6. Much better battery life 7. The user experience is buttery smooth with little or no lag on this thing 8. The notification led
Wow sorry for the essay guys, got a little carried away haha.
When you say the plastic creaked, were you handling the white one? Only the white one has all that plastic - the rest have hard rubber - no creaking involved!
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When you say the plastic creaked, were you handling the white one? Only the white one has all that plastic - the rest have hard rubber - no creaking involved!
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My bad man, I meant the vibrant felt plastic and creaked. I fixed it in my post. I have the black mytouch, feels really good with the rubberized plastic. You're right though, only the white has the plastic (main reason I chose the black over white, the other being a three-toned color setup for white which looks funny IMO).
I jumped ship tonight aswell. Main reason for me is because I love the widgets and the fact that I have a notification light after months of torture.
just picked up the mytouch 4g in plum color last night. will need to use this device for at least a few weeks to gauge whether i want to sell my vibrant or not. since i have two phone lines, as one phone is for my job, i will probably end up keeping both and just sell my hd2.
my opinion as it stands now, towards the vibrant, is that the vibrant can be the best android phone available if and when samsung fixes all the issues on the upcoming froyo 2.2 update. i.e., laggy rfs file system and persistent problems with gps even after the ji6 update.
I used the Vibrant from the first week's release. The Vibrant screen is way overrated. Sure, the blacks looks a thought they've been painted on the screen, but that's really how far I would go with its advantages. Readability on the MT4G is vastly better. And, the thing that made the Vibrant terrible was its color reproduction. White were blueish, and because the white balance was so off, all other colors were just completely off. This phone can show true whites. Another subtlety is the fact that varying brightness levels is oh so much smoother on the mt4g. You can't achieve that yet with SAMOLED, as brightness levels would go up or down in stages. I found it a little distracting.
The rfs file system was a main deal breaker to me. It got really annoying. Why did Samsung have to try and be different? It caused the majority of the lag in the phone in comparison to similar phones with the same specs.
For example, when I ran the Napster and Thumbplay apps on the Vibrant, it would take foreeeeever to load the album art and no other phones except Samsung phones have that problem apparently. On the mt4g, it loads instantaneously.
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I'm gonna keep using both but the mytouch is the superior phone. For me, the overall function of the mytouch is the reason. There are some things that the vibrant does do better though - 1. The samoled on the vibrant is definitely better (I love the true blacks and contrast ratio on this thing) 2. The speakers are also noticeably better with richer and fuller sound 3. The GPU is also more capable 4. Audio quality for media is better (mytouch and HTC phones in general have too much bass and not enough detail) 5. The camera while lacking flash is more capable 5. The multitouch, responsiveness, and feel of the screen is better 6. And the last thing is the notification bar is the best I've seen on an Android phone (the ability to have those toggle settings, change brightness by swiping, and change music tracks are amazing). Everything else, the mytouch does better. 1) GPS is much better 2) Solid feel while the vibrant felt plastic and creaked 3)FFC 3. Camera flash 4. Froyo 5. Optical trackpad 6. Much better battery life 7. The user experience is buttery smooth with little or no lag on this thing 8. The notification led
Wow sorry for the essay guys, got a little carried away haha.
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You may be long winded, but you said EXACTLY the reasons. I lived some things about my Vibrant that the mT4G just can't or doesn't do as well, but I swapped out for the 4G and an very happy I did so.
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I did it for the speed,ummm speed, and ummm speed..basically.
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You may be long winded, but you said EXACTLY the reasons. I lived some things about my Vibrant that the mT4G just can't or doesn't do as well, but I swapped out for the 4G and an very happy I did so.
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#4 reason is open to debate. Some say the GPU on myt4g is better than the Vibrant. I've used the vibrant rooted almost a month and I think myt4g GPU is better. Next G2 and then the Vibrant.
http://androidevolutions.com/2010/1...wervr-sgx540-hummingbird-in-samsung-galaxy-s/
The Hummingbird wins in one area of GPU only. in all other areas G2 wins. Which is slightly inferior to myt4g processor.
No more Sammy for me!
I had the same issues with the Vibrant as just about everyone else who has posted replies:
- unuseable GPS
- no camera Flash
- No notification light
- No FFC
- I hate capacitive buttons
- no trackpad
- no HSPA+
The only thing I liked better about the Vibrant is the screen...it is a beautiful screen that the MT4G can't compete with, but with all the other problems the Vibrant has, the screen is not enough to make me keep it.
I spent more time flashing ROM's on my Vibrant than actually using it...sure, it makes you feel cool for the first week when you are adding new features and trying new ROM's, but it gets very old very quickly when the UI changes, but the crappy hardware is still limited and there is nothing you can do about that except to buy a decent phone...for now, that is the MT4G.
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I used the Vibrant from the first week's release. The Vibrant screen is way overrated. Sure, the blacks looks a thought they've been painted on the screen, but that's really how far I would go with its advantages. Readability on the MT4G is vastly better. And, the thing that made the Vibrant terrible was its color reproduction. White were blueish, and because the white balance was so off, all other colors were just completely off. This phone can show true whites. Another subtlety is the fact that varying brightness levels is oh so much smoother on the mt4g. You can't achieve that yet with SAMOLED, as brightness levels would go up or down in stages. I found it a little distracting.
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The main drawback to the Vibrant's screen, IMO, was the jaggy text. amoled and S-amoled screens use the pentile arrangement of pixels, which gives one less sub-pixel to each individual pixel (2 instead of 3). This makes text look pixelated.
Text looks very sharp and clear on the MT4G. Speed and good GPS are the two main reasons I switched. HTC just knows how to make android phones. Everything works very well on the phone and it flies!
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#4 reason is open to debate. Some say the GPU on myt4g is better than the Vibrant. I've used the vibrant rooted almost a month and I think myt4g GPU is better. Next G2 and then the Vibrant.
http://androidevolutions.com/2010/1...wervr-sgx540-hummingbird-in-samsung-galaxy-s/
The Hummingbird wins in one area of GPU only. in all other areas G2 wins. Which is slightly inferior to myt4g processor.
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You could very well be correct but I kinda wanna see the tests once the Galaxy S phones get Froyo for a fair comparison. It is a known fact that Froyo adds somewhat of a boost to graphics performance seen by older Snapdragon processor phones performing better in graphics benchmarks after updating to Froyo. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that I am right but from using both phones, it seems like the Vibrant is able to handle 720p HD videos and games a little better (the games could be due to devs not coding the games properly for the new Adreno 205). If you guys wanna see a comparison, I say you run the same games and HD videos side by side, and not rely too much on benchmark numbers. What I find interesting is that, the video frames are noticeably smoother on the Vibrant when running the Quadrant benchmark.
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You could very well be correct but I kinda wanna see the tests once the Galaxy S phones get Froyo for a fair comparison. It is a known fact that Froyo adds somewhat of a boost to graphics performance seen by older Snapdragon processor phones performing better in graphics benchmarks after updating to Froyo. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that I am right but from using both phones, it seems like the Vibrant is able to handle 720p HD videos and games a little better (the games could be due to devs not coding the games properly for the new Adreno 205). If you guys wanna see a comparison, I say you run the same games and HD videos side by side, and not rely too much on benchmark numbers. What I find interesting is that, the video frames are noticeably smoother on the Vibrant when running the Quadrant benchmark.
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Froyo does it no good as far as the GPU. It is designed to enhance optimize the CPU. JIT. Which is why even with JIT activated on the leaked froyo (att) it didn't improve in MFLOPS where the Qualcomm processors did. (5) times improvement. AS for games. I have been playing asphalt on the myt4G and it is a better experience then the vibrant. (butter)
The above poster is right when he says that HTC does better with Android then Samsung. All the Samsung Android devices had problems. Most notably, no support. HTC makes better Android devices. Period.
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Froyo does it no good as far as the GPU. It is designed to enhance optimize the CPU. JIT. Which is why even with JIT activated on the leaked froyo (att) it didn't improve in MFLOPS where the Qualcomm processors did. (5) times improvement. AS for games. I have been playing asphalt on the myt4G and it is a better experience then the vibrant. (butter)
The above poster is right when he says that HTC does better with Android then Samsung. All the Samsung Android devices had problems. Most notably, no support. HTC makes better Android devices. Period.
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I know JIT mostly improves CPU performance but phones such as the Nexus One did get a little bit of a GPU jump in graphics benchmarks after getting Froyo. The reason I think is because these graphics benchmarks are not 100% GPU only; a little bit of CPU is involved as well. An example of a CPU affecting graphics is the PS3, the CPU does wonders for it which is evident through amazing graphics in first party games like uncharted 2 because the system is being used more efficiently. Another thing that Froyo adds is better memory management (unlocks hi mem and manages it better) which should also affect these scores a little IMO. I just don't think it's a fair comparison until the Vibrant receives the actual Froyo update, that's all I'm saying. It could be the case that they are even or that the adreno 205 is better, we'll find out once Froyo arrives.
P.S I whole-heartedly agree with you two that HTC makes a lot better android phones, heck phones in general, than Samsung.
do you think the nexus s is a good phone for someone that isn't interested in rooting?
Yes its light weight and no bloat.
now I have a question, we have a Q&A board
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Yes its light weight and no bloat.
now I have a question, we have a Q&A board
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You know what is funny? Over time I found some Google apps to become the new "bloatware", I can't imagine me being on any Android driven phone except the NxS atm
Best answer I can give is that it won't likely disappoint you. The only source of disappointment would probably the battery life (which also depends on your expectations).
From what I read in the reviews, HTC *might* be more suitable for you (as long as you don't mind lower camera quality). Sense UI gives more usability out of the box, and their battery life's supposedly longer.
But, like I said, NS's a good phone. Excellent phone, really.
I have the Nexus S, unrooted and all stock, and I love it so much I often pick it up just to play with the UI or admire its curved shape
wow i must be blind :/ didnt see the q&a section.
yea, i really do love htc's phones for their sense ui (especially desire s but it isnt available in canada) but the one i would probably get (incredible s) supposedly has bad battery life :/
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also, can you zoom in the camera app?
No zoom on the camera not like the pictures look good when zoomed up anywhos
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are there any apps that can allow you to zoom??
I believe Vignette or Camera 360 in the market would allow digital zoom.
As for battery life, in reality, all Android phones are usually in the same ballpark for battery life. For whatever reason, the attitude against Android is just it has bad battery life in general (I guess when you compare it to the iPhone 4) so picking and choosing a phone based on battery life is way too subjective.
You could look at screen size (the bigger the screen, the more power needed) but I don't see anyone claiming the 4.3 inch phones are worse in battery life than the 4 inch phones.
Again, you will find "this phone has bad battery life" threads for all phones you research. The Captivate had tons, Nexus S has a bunch and even the SGS II has some. It all depends on what you do with the phone.
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You know what is funny? Over time I found some Google apps to become the new "bloatware", I can't imagine me being on any Android driven phone except the NxS atm
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I'm noticing something amusing. I switched from the stock weather widget to beautiful widgets and noticed my phone is running much smoother overall. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but it certainly feels like it.
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Nope, no can digital zoom But you can always crop and enlarge the pic later. That's all what digital zoom does..
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As for battery life, in reality, all Android phones are usually in the same ballpark for battery life. For whatever reason, the attitude against Android is just it has bad battery life in general (I guess when you compare it to the iPhone 4) so picking and choosing a phone based on battery life is way too subjective.
You could look at screen size (the bigger the screen, the more power needed) but I don't see anyone claiming the 4.3 inch phones are worse in battery life than the 4 inch phones.
Again, you will find "this phone has bad battery life" threads for all phones you research. The Captivate had tons, Nexus S has a bunch and even the SGS II has some. It all depends on what you do with the phone.
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I agree with your statements, with a few addendums:
After reading several discussions thread about customROM, I get the impression that, well, even the software can affect battery life significantly. Some worse, some better.
And we're still talking about the same phone. Just different ROMs. Different baseband, kernel, and what-have-yous.
When we factor in hardware differences, e.g. the battery (1500mAh battery vs. 1250mAh vs. 1900mAh), GPU (PowerVR vs. Adreno), the type of radio module used, etc. I can confidently say that there *can* be quite significant differences in battery life between models.
But I guess we can still call them as being in the same "ballpark"
And yes, the usage matters, and battery life comparison should be done with the same usage
wait so that means nexus s is NOT capable of digital zoom no matter the camera app? ik you can crop, but it's pretty inconvenient.... no digital zoom + no 720p video may be a deal breaker..
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wait so that means nexus s is NOT capable of digital zoom no matter the camera app? ik you can crop, but it's pretty inconvenient.... no digital zoom + no 720p video may be a deal breaker..
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a) digital zoom = bull**** on phone cams
b) NxS non-720p vids > most other phone's 720p vids (actually I could only think of 3-4 cams better then the NxS right now)
it'd still be nice to have digital zoom when you need it, even if it lowers quality.
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a) digital zoom = bull**** on phone cams
b) NxS non-720p vids > most other phone's 720p vids (actually I could only think of 3-4 cams better then the NxS right now)
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I remember putting a hd video shot from evo on my big screen.... Yeah not very good
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it'd still be nice to have digital zoom when you need it, even if it lowers quality.
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Maybe this sounds a bit apologetic, but you can always crop and enlarge it later
Haha? Nexus S is all about rooting! If you dun root your phone, dun get Android, get Nokia phone. Good camera.
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Hi all,
I currently have a Dell Streak 5 as my "main brain" (or mini tablet,.
I've been frustrated by Dell's lack of support and no fully functional GB ROMs.
Now that the Infuse has an official GB ROM, I'm sorely tempted to switch.
So I put this to you, Infuse enthusiasts, are you happy with you device?
Specifically speed and reliability, 3G reception, and camera quality?
Many thanks in advance!
Martin
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The Infuse certainly has a lot of goodness going for it. The audio quality is purely outstanding...in the leagues with the Cowons and other high-end audio players. The display is gorgeous and the look and feel of the Infuse is elegant and quite handsome. The battery life is actually not bad at all, for an Android.
However, the Infuse is definitely one of the buggiest Android phones available. TouchWiz, Samsung's UI overlay for Android, is among the worst of them. When I first set my Infuse up, I got a few system crashes and lag-O-rama. I had to switch to an alternative launcher to get by with my Infuse. But, for some reason, now that mine has been in use for a week, TouchWiz has smoothed out considerably.
I've heard good thing's about the Dell Streak but have never used one. But I do know, even with all of it's bugginess, I do love my Infuse. I find that I prefer listening to music with my Infuse rather than any of my many DAPs. That may be a testament to the Yamaha audio chip I believe the Infuse uses...same as the new SGS2.
I'd suggest giving an Infuse a try before buying.
Oh, and by the way, GB isn't yet available for the AT&T Infuse. Many of us Infuse users are waiting patiently for AT&T to release the update.
I love my Infuse. Out of the box it's probably a crap device, but my typical "time to live" for any stock ROM on any phone I've owned in the past 4-5 years has been a day or less.
The display is simply gorgeous, with a non-stock ROM it's incredibly responsive, the sound quality is great.
The camera's better than any phone I've ever used before - it can actually successfully scan barcodes and QR codes. (I shoot with a Pentax DSLR - so I won't touch phone cameras with a 10 foot pole for anything but barcode scanning...)
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I love my Infuse. Out of the box it's probably a crap device, but my typical "time to live" for any stock ROM on any phone I've owned in the past 4-5 years has been a day or less.
The display is simply gorgeous, with a non-stock ROM it's incredibly responsive, the sound quality is great.
The camera's better than any phone I've ever used before - it can actually successfully scan barcodes and QR codes. (I shoot with a Pentax DSLR - so I won't touch phone cameras with a 10 foot pole for anything but barcode scanning...)
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Trust me, the camera, though having excellent features and adjustments, is crap, especially for lower light conditions...like under a canopy in bright daylight. It seems to have terrible low-light performance even with the daylight setting checked.
It's Amazing
I'm still using the stock rom, as every customization I've wanted except one can be done without even rooting the phone. I pulled my phone out of the box, turned it on, and immediately downloaded Go Launcher EX, set the home screen to 5x5 icons and disabled icon labels... yea it's definitely the phone and look I want. It comes with much less bloat crap than the other AT&T phones, it allowed 3rd party install apps out of the box, and it has the fastest HSPA+ speeds of their "4G" phones according to the specs provided. Many made fun, as I purchased a 2011 phone with a single core processor... The funny thing is stock the 1.2GHz processor usually runs faster than a stock Atrix with its dual-core 1GHz phone (which my wife has). The phone is $98 at the nearby stores... I absolutely cannot see a reason why anyone wouldn't chose this phone unless you're waiting for the SGSII or you want something small like that hp thing.
It's just a jumbo Captivate.
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If you think this phone is buggy, go try the G2x. Its a turd with an HDMI port. Out of the 5 android phones I've owned the Infuse is by far the best.
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Okay, thanks for the feedback all!
I'm a little surprised that AT&T doesn't have GingerBread yet, as Rogers (the Canadian equivalent network) launched the phone with GB here some time ago, unless I'm very much mistaken.
I wouldn't be using the stock launcher as I'm very happy with SPB 3D, which I already use on my Streak and Iconia.
You guys also seem to have a healthy development section here too.
I have played with a demo in stores a couple times and I do like the device a lot.
Does AT&T lock the bootloader or NAND on the phone?
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If you use the camera for pictures or video often, it's a no brainer. The Infuse camera is superior over the Dell Streak. I moved from the dell streak and I don't miss the extra .5 inch screen.
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After reading this thread, I was intrigued to see how well the camera fared in a mixed light situation. I recorded some footage and played it through my 1080P HDTV. I nearly shat myself when I saw it directly linked via HDMI. The Infuse truly is an impressive little beast of a device.
Infuse has amazing screen, camera and design. The stock rom is pretty bad actually, its laggy and the browser loves crashing a lot. However, with infusion gingerbread rom and overclock to 1.6 this phone is super fast and flies through everything and the browser is super fast, so now it can handle 1080p youtube videos. With infused rom and 1.6ghz overclock i can say its as fast as galaxy s2 which I've played with.
Okay, guys, regarding the camera performance of the Infuse...I did a test of 5 different smartphones. They were all set to auto or neutral...no enhancements at all. I did, however, set the Infuse to daylight mode with the checkmarked. Otherwise it would be way too dark. All were taken from the exact same position. Zoom was not used...just how the cameras are by default once booted up.
I took 3 pictures of the same scene each and chose the best, most focused, one.
I had to crop the Infuse picture because the forum wouldn't upload it. It kept saying the file was too big. But I didn't crop it much. The main thing is the picture is unaltered in its image, only size.
The phones are:
Samsung Focus
HTC HD2 with Android
Samsung Infuse 4G
HTC Inspire 4G
Apple iPhone 4
--------Focus---------------HD2------------ Inspire ----------- iPhone 4 -----------Infuse
Marty, the picture that you chose to take isn't a very good sample. Any time you choose a very dark area with a very bright area right beside/behind it, your quality is going to suffer as the lenses struggle to find a focus point.
apallohadas said:
Marty, the picture that you chose to take isn't a very good sample. Any time you choose a very dark area with a very bright area right beside/behind it, your quality is going to suffer as the lenses struggle to find a focus point.
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This isn't about the specific picture. It's about how the Infuse low-light picture quality compares to other phones. There is nothing different in the location of the Infuse picture from the other phones. They all were taken in the same location and the same time.
This shows the low light performance of the Infuse is exactly as I said it was.
The Samsung Focus is the obvious winner there, but I did notice that the other pictures were aimed slightly more to the left bright area which could affect the camera's contrast adjustment. Still the Infuse held up well otherwise.
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The Samsung Focus is the obvious winner there, but I did notice that the other pictures were aimed slightly more to the left bright area which could affect the camera's contrast adjustment. Still the Infuse held up well otherwise.
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The angle makes no difference. The angle is pretty much exactly the same. What is different, making the angle look different from each other, is the default zoom level. If they all had the exact same default zoom, they would look exactly the same for angle.
I agree, the Focus has the best low-light performance in this run of pics. But it doesn't have the best overall picture quality performance. That belongs to the iPhone. I can do another test proving this if prompted...I did one in the past between the Inspire, HD2, Focus and iPhone. Didn't have the Infuse back then. But the iPhone came out the best looking picture of them all. It was crisper, clearer and more detailed as well as having the best coloration.
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This isn't about the specific picture. It's about how the Infuse low-light picture quality compares to other phones. There is nothing different in the location of the Infuse picture from the other phones. They all were taken in the same location and the same time.
This shows the low light performance of the Infuse is exactly as I said it was.
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If you take a picture to support a claim and then then say it's not about the picture, how are we to take the picture serious?
I get that you're not happy with the phone and that's cool. Have you tried another rom yet?
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If you take a picture to support a claim and then then say it's not about the picture, how are we to take the picture serious?
I get that you're not happy with the phone and that's cool. Have you tried another rom yet?
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You're misunderstanding my meaning. It is about the pictures. It just isn't about only the pictures. The pictures speak for themselves. Take them how you want. But the Infuse does have the second worse low-light performance of them all. And I am not unhappy with my Infuse. I am unhappy with its picture performance.
Read this post again: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17136559&postcount=2
The Streak was my first Android phone. Gf is currently using it as she enjoys the larger screen for reading books. I switched from the Streak to a Captivate because the Streak just got to be too bulky for me after a while. The Captivate seemed too small though so I switched to the Infuse and couldn't be happier. For me, the screen size is perfect. Not too big, not too small.
I'm running Infused 2.1.0 with Infusion 1.1 kernel overclocked to 1.6, and also applied the battery and performance tweaks from DynamicRam. My phone is snappy, has a beautiful display, no lag, and just has a great feel to it. Battery life is pretty decent. On an average day I only need to plug it up before going to bed. If I'm heavily using it, I may need to plug it up once in the early evening to get a little bit more juice. I also like that there's stable GB roms available. I tried some of the GB roms on the Streak and they just weren't doing it for me. Ended up going back to Streakdroid 1.9.0.
If I had to choose between the Streak and the Infuse, I'd go with the Infuse. I am obsessed with this phone. Loved the Streak, but in my opinion the Infuse blows it out of the water.
Hope that helps you a little!
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The angle makes no difference. The angle is pretty much exactly the same. What is different, making the angle look different from each other, is the default zoom level. If they all had the exact same default zoom, they would look exactly the same for angle.
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I beg to differ. The angle makes a big difference. In this case, I daresay the biggest difference. The balance of dark area to light area will drastically alter the contrast balance in the photo. The camera will try to set the contrast balance to match the majority of the photo. If more of the photo of dark in the first picture than the others, the results will be difference.
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I liked the Charge, but having non stop issues day after day. Extremely poor call quality when the phone gets below 20%, M$ Exchange email doesnt work, calendar wont sync, data always disconnects, etc.
Made about a dozen calls and finally got a hold of a regional manager that is willing to help me out, or so he says. Told me he would be able to get me an early upgrade price so trying to decide what route to go.
Prior to being an android user, I had the iPhone from the first version and dropped the iPhone 4 back in July for the 4G device. Saved me some money from having to buy a 4G hotspot and a phone, plus iPhone was limited and couldn't handle a few things that I needed. Seems to be better, but its still a 3G phone.
New Nexus looks pretty good, but heard some things not so good about them. Is it better to wait as it seems new phones come out every week, or better to pull the trigger on the Nexus now?
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I liked the Charge, but having non stop issues day after day. Extremely poor call quality when the phone gets below 20%, M$ Exchange email doesnt work, calendar wont sync, data always disconnects, etc.
Made about a dozen calls and finally got a hold of a regional manager that is willing to help me out, or so he says. Told me he would be able to get me an early upgrade price so trying to decide what route to go.
Prior to being an android user, I had the iPhone from the first version and dropped the iPhone 4 back in July for the 4G device. Saved me some money from having to buy a 4G hotspot and a phone, plus iPhone was limited and couldn't handle a few things that I needed. Seems to be better, but its still a 3G phone.
New Nexus looks pretty good, but heard some things not so good about them. Is it better to wait as it seems new phones come out every week, or better to pull the trigger on the Nexus now?
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TBH if it were me I'd just wait for the next big smartphone of Q1/Q2, they'll be as good or better spec-wise than the Nexus however you'll be missing out on the pure AOSP experience and timely updates... its not that important to me so I'll be doing this, I'm gonna probably pick up the next HTC superphone (a little tired of samsung now though I love their hardware)
I have the Galaxy Nexus right now and its the best phone I've ever had. Sure they're some minor problems with it like with any new device. But nothing at all that makes it unusable or annoying.
I wouldn't wait for phones that come out at CES 2012 because they won't be available until Q2 at least. Plus all the Quad Core phones will all have problems working the kinks out since they'll be brand new. Much like the Thunderbolt, Charge, Revolution, and the (first) Bionic.
So my advice is to go with the Nexus. Better experience, faster updates, best phone I ever came across. Makes the iPhone 4S look puny and not fun at all IMO of course
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If you have to change now, go for the Nexus. If you can wait some months, then wait.
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Best phone for flashers = Galaxy Nexus
Best phone for stock users = Droid Razr
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Best phone for flashers = Galaxy Nexus
Best phone for stock users = Droid Razr
its simple really...
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Why do you say the RAZR is better than the Rezound for stock users out of curiosity? I could have had either as my displacement and went with the Rezound because it appeared to be the better phone overall based on what I read.
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The Nexus is still better for stock users because it's the only one with ICS. The OS is far more intuitive and coherent than Gingerbread, and that's exactly what matters the most for those users.
The only pluses in general for the Razr versus the Nexus are its thinness (and it's not even a huge difference compared to the Nexus, it's much more noticeable compared to the chunktastic Rezound) and less-plasticky/more durable build (kevlar back, splash-proof coating, not made by Samsung).
With what I know from reading -- I'd go for the Nexus. ICS cannot be ignored, and couple that with the amazing AMOLED screens Samsung uses and you have a winner.
I believe ALL the phones have some quirks, you just have to make sure you can live with them.
The Charge was not considered a successful phone, it was the baddest mama jama when I bought mine in early June and though its not perfect, it got a breath of life when GB was released for it. Fixed most of my issues!
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TBH if it were me I'd just wait for the next big smartphone of Q1/Q2, they'll be as good or better spec-wise than the Nexus however you'll be missing out on the pure AOSP experience and timely updates... its not that important to me so I'll be doing this, I'm gonna probably pick up the next HTC superphone (a little tired of samsung now though I love their hardware)
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Hes actually right. If youre getting a new phone just wait for the next big phone. We have Tegra 3 coming to smartphones in Q1 and just look at the 12mp camera/quad-core phones running ICS coming just in the first 3 months of this year. Wait it out bro.
Nexus is the best phone out there right now. As for the issues you're having, if you want full Exchange support, get a Windows Phone, otherwise get Touchdown as that is the only way to have reliable Exchange support on Android. Really though, I think you'll find problems with your next phone too just based on the OP.
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I completely disagree with the majority here. The HTC Rezound is by far the superior phone. Its 720p IPS LCD screen is *true* HD, not Pentile, and current OLED tech suffers from color inaccuracy and oversaturation. The subpixel count on the GNex is about equal to most 800x480 phones.
The Rezound's Adreno 220 GPU is also superior. The Gnex's GPU is just the Charge's PowerVR SGX 540 with 50% overclock. A nice comparison here: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011...htc-flyer-htc-desire-hd-and-samsung-galaxy-s/
The Rezound's camera is also better, and it has "Beats Audio" (not sure if that's any good though).
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I completely disagree with the majority here. The HTC Rezound is by far the superior phone. Its 720p IPS LCD screen is *true* HD, not Pentile, and current OLED tech suffers from color inaccuracy and oversaturation. The subpixel count on the GNex is about equal to most 800x480 phones.
The Rezound's Adreno 220 GPU is also superior. The Gnex's GPU is just the Charge's PowerVR SGX 540 with 50% overclock. A nice comparison here: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011...htc-flyer-htc-desire-hd-and-samsung-galaxy-s/
The Rezound's camera is also better, and it has "Beats Audio" (not sure if that's any good though).
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beats audio is garbage unless you like rap/hip-hop (thankfully the beats 'technology' doesn't kick in unless you plug in those craptastic beats headphones), the Rezound *might* have the Nexus beat in processor and camera but Nexus wins IMO screen-wise, its also unbloated/unskinned, will have first dibs on updates and with the zero lag shutter... meh its a toss-up I think, both are solid phones but I'd kinda lean toward the Nexus
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I completely disagree with the majority here. The HTC Rezound is by far the superior phone. Its 720p IPS LCD screen is *true* HD, not Pentile, and current OLED tech suffers from color inaccuracy and oversaturation. The subpixel count on the GNex is about equal to most 800x480 phones.
The Rezound's Adreno 220 GPU is also superior. The Gnex's GPU is just the Charge's PowerVR SGX 540 with 50% overclock. A nice comparison here: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011...htc-flyer-htc-desire-hd-and-samsung-galaxy-s/
The Rezound's camera is also better, and it has "Beats Audio" (not sure if that's any good though).
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This post sounds like a complete HTC fanboy post. Some of those tests with the GPU were barely better than the original SGX540 GPU. It's also closer to a 100% overclock (200MHz in the Charge v. 384MHz in the Nexus), so I would think those tests would turn out vastly different if run with the Nexus GPU at the same resolutions.
Screen is debatable, and if you looked at the Nexus screen, you couldn't tell if it was pentile or not. Outdoor visibility has ALWAYS been the best on the SAMOLED screens though, and power consumption can be better with them as well.
Camera, I'd have to see to believe as I have NEVER heard of HTC using good quality image sensors. Just because it's 8MP compared to the Nexus's 5MP doesn't mean it's better. That's like saying a 16MP point-and-shoot takes better pictures than a 10MP DSLR. It can if the conditions are right, but usually, it won't.
Beats audio is also a complete sham as the audio processor in the Charge is better. You'll likely get worse audio from Beats than you would from the Nexus. Then lets not forget software upgrades and the lack of add-on apps, can you guess which one wins here? And you can probably forget about AOSP on the Rezound anytime soon as it took several months for Layher to get it on the TB, and I don't see anyone having the dedication to do that again.
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This post sounds like a complete HTC fanboy post. Some of those tests with the GPU were barely better than the original SGX540 GPU. It's also closer to a 100% overclock (200MHz in the Charge v. 384MHz in the Nexus), so I would think those tests would turn out vastly different if run with the Nexus GPU at the same resolutions.
Screen is debatable, and if you looked at the Nexus screen, you couldn't tell if it was pentile or not. Outdoor visibility has ALWAYS been the best on the SAMOLED screens though, and power consumption can be better with them as well.
Camera, I'd have to see to believe as I have NEVER heard of HTC using good quality image sensors. Just because it's 8MP compared to the Nexus's 5MP doesn't mean it's better. That's like saying a 16MP point-and-shoot takes better pictures than a 10MP DSLR. It can if the conditions are right, but usually, it won't.
Beats audio is also a complete sham as the audio processor in the Charge is better. You'll likely get worse audio from Beats than you would from the Nexus. Then lets not forget software upgrades and the lack of add-on apps, can you guess which one wins here? And you can probably forget about AOSP on the Rezound anytime soon as it took several months for Layher to get it on the TB, and I don't see anyone having the dedication to do that again.
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Also it took the rezound like 2 months just to receive root so their Dev community is probably pretty bare
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Just checked the Rezound forum. Apparently they already have an ICS ROM thanks to an ICS leak for the "Sensation XL", whatever that is.
As for AMOLED, unfortunately it's not mature enough yet and drains more battery than LCD as well as having inaccurate colors and oversaturation. And with a 720p pentile you won't notice the pixels but I don't think the sharpness would be as good as a true 720p RGB screen (I could be wrong, but I personally wouldn't bother taking the chance).
As for Beats Audio, I kinda figured you wouldn't be able to get hi-fi music quality without a proprietary port.
Also one other thing that (for me) is a real deal-breaker is lack of microSD slot on the GNexus. I have no idea what Google was thinking there.
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Just checked the Rezound forum. Apparently they already have an ICS ROM thanks to an ICS leak for the "Sensation XL", whatever that is.
As for AMOLED, unfortunately it's not mature enough yet and drains more battery than LCD as well as having inaccurate colors and oversaturation. And with a 720p pentile you won't notice the pixels but I don't think the sharpness would be as good as a true 720p RGB screen (I could be wrong, but I personally wouldn't bother taking the chance).
As for Beats Audio, I kinda figured you wouldn't be able to get hi-fi music quality without a proprietary port.
Also one other thing that (for me) is a real deal-breaker is lack of microSD slot on the GNexus. I have no idea what Google was thinking there.
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Hooray for an ICS ROM that is very buggy, I know I'll use that all the time Can't wait to get a Sense'd version with as many useless apps as Verizon and jam into it. Glad to see you ignored the AOSP comment completely as well.
The screen statement is somewhat untrue as well. The issue with battery life comes when you're using bright colors or video. If you use black, you get excellent battery life as black pixels use 0 power for AMOLED screens, how much power does a black pixel use on an LCD panel? Inaccurate colors are one thing, as that depends on several factors, but it can be corrected, as can the over-saturation. Are there issues with the technology? Sure, but I'll take a SAMOLED screen over an LCD panel every day. Oh, and how about contrast ratio comparison between the two? How about comparing the thickness of a full screen assembly (touch sensor, backlight, and display) between AMOLED and tradition LCD? There are reasons that it's being used, despite how bad you think the technology is.
No MicroSD slot, now we're just nit-picking. Is it a bad thing? Kinda. However, how often do people change them? I only ever changed it out to get a faster card. The only thing I miss about having one is that I could just copy over my backed up data easily to the Nexus. Other than that, it's pointless and I don't see anyone having issues with the lack of a microSD card.
Oh, you also forgot to comment about the GPU tests and the camera. Is the Rezound a bad phone? No, but if you want long term support, I don't think you're going to beat the Nexus as it will see several updates in the future, and even if Google stops updating it, the community will keep it going. Plus, any issues you see can be fixed by the community before Google gets around to it, so you can see fixes faster if there are problems. The Rezound? It will probably see an OTA to ICS, then probably two more OTAs for bug fixes, after that, probably not much. Good luck getting AOSP on it, as that will take a long time, if ever; just see the Thunderbolt as an example. Community driven fixes? When's the last time HTC took bug fix advice from the public if it wasn't a security issue?
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Just checked the Rezound forum. Apparently they already have an ICS ROM thanks to an ICS leak for the "Sensation XL", whatever that is.
As for AMOLED, unfortunately it's not mature enough yet and drains more battery than LCD as well as having inaccurate colors and oversaturation. And with a 720p pentile you won't notice the pixels but I don't think the sharpness would be as good as a true 720p RGB screen (I could be wrong, but I personally wouldn't bother taking the chance).
As for Beats Audio, I kinda figured you wouldn't be able to get hi-fi music quality without a proprietary port.
Also one other thing that (for me) is a real deal-breaker is lack of microSD slot on the GNexus. I have no idea what Google was thinking there.
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Haha Rezound. You can keep that fat, whored-out (Beats scam, bloated up, Sense..), cheesy red colored locked-down brick. HTC is really becoming like Motorola by locking down their devices which creates delays and frustration for people like us. It will receive an update sure.. once. Until they release their new Super Amazing Incredible Orgasmic Deluxe 4G.
Also I hate the volume and power buttons on that phone, they are pretty much flush and have no tactile feel (mushy), don't even start on the horrendous battery life of HTC phones.
Sure the GNEX might not be ideal in every way, but neither is the Rezound. Just because you prefer it doesn't mean everyone else does too
I'd take SAMOLED Plus over LCD, but my personal experience with Pentile (browsing at Verizon store) has been pretty negative.
My point with the SD card was for the sake of extra storage. This is one of the most irritating aspects of the iPhone. These days there are 64 GB microSDXC cards out. The 32 GB card price keeps falling.
I'd wait too. I would want something with dev support like the Galaxy Nexus, but at least 8 MP rear-facing camera and hopefully >2 MP front-facing.
Go with the Nexus if you need a phone now....I have it and I love it. There are almost too many developers on that phone, which is a nice change coming from the charge.
The thing that annoys me most about the Rezound is the power button is on the wrong side of the phone. I use either my thumb or pointer finger of my right hand to push the power button. It's pretty awkward doing that on the rezound. Maybe it's just me lol
Kindly help me to choose from ATRIX or Thrill
i have ARIX but i got an exchange deal with Thrill + Rs.1500($30) INR
From all specs i understand Thrill is overall better phone but
atrix has 1GB ram where 512 in thrill(but still its fast)
thrill has very poor life where atrix has 2000 mah battery.
atrix has better developer support.
thrill has 4.3" 3D screen
What i am concerned is:
1. if thrill play 1080p mkv download from net without convert
2. Games compatibility with thrill
3. video Gtalk
what you people wants to suggest?
I was faced the exact same decision a couple of months ago and went with the Atrix.
So far pretty happy with my decision.
The Atrix has Gingerbread went the Thrill is currently on FroYo (wtf?). Plus the Atrix has some pretty cool ROMs (CM7 with all hardware working excluding webtop, Darkside Blur Based ROM which has HDMI Mirroring along with the option for Webtop over HDMI, couple of other cool ones but not that many which are still being supported. Not sure about the Thrill's community as I do not have a Thrill). Though the Thrill might be the first to get an ICS ROM due to the OMAP processor (Atrix can't get it until the Tegra ICS drivers are released) but I am not 100% sure about that (hoping Moto releases them soon after the Xoom is updated but not sure if they would be the same as tablets).
Thrill probably has the better display due to the Atrix's PenTile but it really isn't as bad as people make it out to be (it only looks bad to me alongside a phone of similar PPI which isn't PenTile). But I am not really a display expert.
And Motorola quality in general is far superior to LG (at least based on previous experiences with LG as well as friends with LG devices).
Call quality on the Atrix is outstanding (it is still a phone and Moto has a very rich history in the area of making phones), GPS is a CHAMP (locks in quickly and is accurate), signal strength seems to be strong throughout my area (though that is probably more carrier related than hardware). The fingerprint sensor is a cool thing to have and works great (I wish more phones had this).
Not sure which one has a better camera, the Atrix's is not great imo but not terrible either (then again, I never expect much from phone cameras. The quality on the front camera is terrible so if you videoconference, it might not be the best option. Thrill has a 1.3MP front camera and should be a superior option for that).
3D seems like a gimmick to me so I can't comment on that. It did look cool but I don't see any real uses.
I've had both a the Atrix and Thrill, I would stick with the Atrix. The Thrill to me was bigger and thicker it ran ok on Froyo but it got quite hot a lot of the time, also the 3D is a gimmick I played with it in the beginning when I had the phone but towards the end of my time with it I didn't even bother to play anything in 3D. Over all the OS does lag its really noticeable when installing apps even though I was on the leaked GB from the O3D and the battery life is very poor I couldn't even make it through a day with moderate use without charging and that was a big deal breaker for me. Development for the phone was OK at the time I had it no where near where its brother the 2x has, but I've upgraded to the Skyrocket now and I am quite happy with that, hopes that helps you
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I was faced the exact same decision a couple of months ago and went with the Atrix.
So far pretty happy with my decision.
The Atrix has Gingerbread went the Thrill is currently on FroYo (wtf?). Plus the Atrix has some pretty cool ROMs (CM7 with all hardware working excluding webtop, Darkside Blur Based ROM which has HDMI Mirroring along with the option for Webtop over HDMI, couple of other cool ones but not that many which are still being supported. Not sure about the Thrill's community as I do not have a Thrill). Though the Thrill might be the first to get an ICS ROM due to the OMAP processor (Atrix can't get it until the Tegra ICS drivers are released) but I am not 100% sure about that (hoping Moto releases them soon after the Xoom is updated but not sure if they would be the same as tablets).
Thrill probably has the better display due to the Atrix's PenTile but it really isn't as bad as people make it out to be (it only looks bad to me alongside a phone of similar PPI which isn't PenTile). But I am not really a display expert.
And Motorola quality in general is far superior to LG (at least based on previous experiences with LG as well as friends with LG devices).
Call quality on the Atrix is outstanding (it is still a phone and Moto has a very rich history in the area of making phones), GPS is a CHAMP (locks in quickly and is accurate), signal strength seems to be strong throughout my area (though that is probably more carrier related than hardware). The fingerprint sensor is a cool thing to have and works great (I wish more phones had this).
Not sure which one has a better camera, the Atrix's is not great imo but not terrible either (then again, I never expect much from phone cameras. The quality on the front camera is terrible so if you videoconference, it might not be the best option. Thrill has a 1.3MP front camera and should be a superior option for that).
3D seems like a gimmick to me so I can't comment on that. It did look cool but I don't see any real uses.
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You are absolutely right about our phone bro.
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I've had both a the Atrix and Thrill, I would stick with the Atrix. The Thrill to me was bigger and thicker it ran ok on Froyo but it got quite hot a lot of the time, also the 3D is a gimmick I played with it in the beginning when I had the phone but towards the end of my time with it I didn't even bother to play anything in 3D. Over all the OS does lag its really noticeable when installing apps even though I was on the leaked GB from the O3D and the battery life is very poor I couldn't even make it through a day with moderate use without charging and that was a big deal breaker for me. Development for the phone was OK at the time I had it no where near where its brother the 2x has, but I've upgraded to the Skyrocket now and I am quite happy with that, hopes that helps you
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thanks this what i am looking
Glad i posted here...