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Google Talk with transports

As far as I know/knew, Google Talk was incompatible with transports to other networks (MSN). However, I saw this post
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=73c73792d8500518&hl=en
Which implied to me that it actually was working. Can anyone confirm that it is, and possible give me some tips on how to set it up?

I use a free transport with mine.
use an app like Psi on the desktop, add your google talk account, do a service discovery, enter the server you want to use and attach the transport.
I use MSN and ICQ transports and it works well.

I've got it set up now, thanks! There seems to be a significant delay in contacts changing status (online/offline). I'm guessing that's normal though.
Also, is there a way to get contacts to show up by their MSN nickname, instead of their email address? Some seem to, while others are stuck as an email. Maybe it just takes time for them to change?

I am using an ICQ Transport which is working just fine, no delay (guess that depends on what transport you're using, i'm on headcounter.org ((they've got MSN too)))
You should change the addresses manually (on GTalk) i had to do so too with some of my ICQ contacts as the transport isn't exactly perfect.

I use transports to some IM networks specific for my country: Gadu-Gadu and Tlen. I use them for years and get little issues. It's really nice to have talk history from all networks in one place - accessible from WWW or mobile Gmail app.
cbaltzer said:
Also, is there a way to get contacts to show up by their MSN nickname, instead of their email address? Some seem to, while others are stuck as an email. Maybe it just takes time for them to change?
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I think Jabber doesn't store contacts names on server side - only their IDs. This is client responsibility to name IDs, so even if you name them in one Jabber client, second one won't know these names.
GTalk, on the other hand, uses Google Contacts to store names and other information. If you look into all your contacts, you will see these imported from other IMs, e.g. contact named "[email protected]" with email "[email protected]". Then you could change their names and this should affect names in GTalk app.
But this is somewhat screwed up. First: you get a lot of garbage in your contacts and you can't remove it, because then Gtalk will automatically remove Jabber contacts too. Ofc if you re-add Jabber contacts then Google Contacts will be automatically recreated.
Second: you probably want to merge IM information with already existing contacts. You could move all info from existing contacts to IM ones and then remove first ones, but this is totally stupid. Unfortunately if you will try to do it other way, then GTalk will remove your Jabber contacts ;-)
I have found a trick: you have to disable sync in your phone and modify contacts from Gmail interface. Move IM info to old contacts, remove garbage and then GTalk won't remove Jabber contacts during sync, because it will find them in other contacts.
But there is also some tricky thing. GTalk info must be stored in exactly the same way as in automatically created contacts. AFAIR it must be added as email field of private type. This is totally stupid, because Google Contacts API supports field especially for GTalk information and actually Android use it in some places, but GTalk syncing doesn't. If you add this information as GTalk field, then GTalk will remove Jabber contact or recreate garbage - I don't remember. I have added IM info in both email and GTalk fields to get full functionality.
Ahh and it's possible that Google fixed some of these issues. I was porting my contacts about year ago.

cbaltzer said:
I've got it set up now, thanks! There seems to be a significant delay in contacts changing status (online/offline). I'm guessing that's normal though.
Also, is there a way to get contacts to show up by their MSN nickname, instead of their email address? Some seem to, while others are stuck as an email. Maybe it just takes time for them to change?
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Which transport server did you use for MSN?

theSpam said:
Which transport server did you use for MSN?
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Sorry for the late reply, I sent in my N1 for a replacement, and haven't gotten the new one yet so I've been using my iPhone.
I used jabber.hot-chilli.net which gave me a bit of delay, then headcounter.org as it was recommended above. Headcounter didn't convert emails to nicknames like hot-chilli did (sometimes), so I switched back. Still looking for alternatives.
Edit: Actually, I remember there being a problem after I switched to headcounter.org, causing Talk to force close. Something with how the contact names are parsed, I saw in another thread.

does this work anymore for anyone?
I'm unable to get any services listed when I'm connected to GTalk.
Tested several transport servers but neither are returning any services.
If I connect to an other jabber server services are returned from the same transport servers..

Use Psi to add the transport. Set it up to connect to Google's servers and sign in. When you go to add the transport, manually put in another server. Use jabber.hot-chilli.net, they use an updated Jabber server that parses names correctly so they don't crash Google Talk.
You'll have to authorize each contact once the transport is added, but Google put in an authorization limit per day, so only 40 or so will go through. The rest you'll see with a little red question mark on their status icon. Right click on them and go to authorize and resend the authorization manually. This may take a couple of days depending on how many contacts you have. As they authorize you'll see them show up in Google Talk.
Also, you may want to add their IM address to your actual contacts. Open GMail and find a contact, add a Google Talk IM listing, and put in their_email\[email protected] When you're signed in on your phone you'll see their status next to their name in Messages, Phone, and Contacts. Its handy.
I wrote a blog post on it here: http://chrisbaltzer.com
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Exchange email - lookup contacts from corporate address book?

Is it possible to look up contacts from the GAL with the email client?
Thanks

moosic said:
Is it possible to look up contacts from the GAL with the email client?
Thanks
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Maybe this thread could be about all Exchange issues / tips ?
Would be cool.
I don't have answers to the OP here just some points:
1. I read either on here or another forum that your customized folders in Exchange did not show up on Captivate. Can anyone deny / confirm?
2. I don't see why contact GAL lookup won't work, it worked on my Aria. But then again also my Exchange customized folders showed up just fine on Aria.
3. Dialing from Calendar entry on Captivate no worky? Really? Sounds unlikely but can anyone confirm / deny?

You are able to do lookups within the email client on the gal. Simply press the search button, this will take you to a lookup field.
My folders all synced with my exchange account. Its more like a fake sync.it pulls when selected.
I have not been able to lookup phonenumbers through the gal.
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The default email client leaves a lot to be desired when dealing with Exchange support. Yes, you can have customized folder but navigate them isn't that easy. For example, I have more than a dozen folders under my inbox folder, they all showed up as tabs along side the Inbox. There is no way to configure which folder to sync and which doesn't.
The calendar also showed my meetings wrong. I have a few repeating events with a few exceptions, e.g. I delete a few meetings in certain weeks. After sync, the calendar on my phone ignores all those exceptions/deleted meetings.
I'm going to investigate other Exchange support apps. The stock app really stinks.

bwolmarans said:
Maybe this thread could be about all Exchange issues / tips ?
Would be cool.
I don't have answers to the OP here just some points:
1. I read either on here or another forum that your customized folders in Exchange did not show up on Captivate. Can anyone deny / confirm?
Customized folders do show up, along the top bar of the main email client window. Swipe or tap to change folders.
2. I don't see why contact GAL lookup won't work, it worked on my Aria. But then again also my Exchange customized folders showed up just fine on Aria.
Compose or reply to an email. Below the TO and CC fields are four buttons. One is SEARCH. That does a GAL lookup.
3. Dialing from Calendar entry on Captivate no worky? Really? Sounds unlikely but can anyone confirm / deny?
Works just fine for me.
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Some other tips.
Make messages easier to read and MUCH easier on the battery by going to Menu/Display Mode and picking "Positive Mode". Wish Gmail would do this too, white background is not AMOLED friendly at all (uses MORE power than an LCD would use).
Check your signature...you may or may not want to advertise you're "using an i897 on AT&T 3G Network". Account Settings/Signature.
Check message size, it's probably set too low by default, unless you're really trying to conserve a few kb of data. Advanced Settings/Email Size.

What format are your telephone numbers in your calendar?
888 123-4567
8881234567
Don't work for me. They are in the body of the calendar entry.

Rizz67 said:
I have not been able to lookup phonenumbers through the gal.
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I have not been able to lookup people by phone number (useful when you get a call from your office that you don't recognize the number) since I got rid of the first gen blackberry I had many years ago.
And that's including a year that I had the tilt (A Windows phone you'd think they could make their own stuff work together.) And I still can't with the Aria I have now (until next week Wed. when my Captivate arrives, and then I won't be able to with my Captivate. )
Sad that Exchange integration was better with the blackberry 6 years ago than it is with today's latest Android devices.

sadly the gal search only provides me the email address, not the phone number or any other gal information. Or does it for you? Am I doing it wrong?
It must be that somebody at Android and or Samsung owns stock in Touchdown / Nitro ???

It's probably due to the limitation of Exchange ActiveSync protocol.
P.S. dialing from calendar doesn't work for me either when the phone number is in event body.

foxbat121 said:
It's probably due to the limitation of Exchange ActiveSync protocol.
P.S. dialing from calendar doesn't work for me either when the phone number is in event body.
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The GAL lookup fubar is not the EAS protocol. It works on other platforms just fine. I think it is a Samsung issue - i will test later on my Moto phone and see what they return in a GAL lookup.
As for calendar dialing - I want to see some proof of someone doing this with an Exchange entry. I have tried new entries in Exchange and Google with a phone number in body and location - nothing works. URLs don't work either.
The entire calendar entry is treated as an unelectable blob.

alphadog00 said:
The GAL lookup fubar is not the EAS protocol. It works on other platforms just fine. I think it is a Samsung issue - i will test later on my Moto phone and see what they return in a GAL lookup.
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I don't remember if it works in WM or not (never tried even though I've been using WM exclusively in the past). But according to posts above by bwolmarans, it didn't work for his Tilt either. Remember BlackBerry doesn't use EAS at all. You need to setup BES server in order to communicate between Exchanger server and BB.

foxbat121 said:
I don't remember if it works in WM or not (never tried even though I've been using WM exclusively in the past). But according to posts above by bwolmarans, it didn't work for his Tilt either. Remember BlackBerry doesn't use EAS at all. You need to setup BES server in order to communicate between Exchanger server and BB.
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It works fine on iPhone - they licensed EAS, and I am pretty sure it worked on my WinMo phone. I have another Android 2.1 phone I want to try it on.

As further information, I could not get my GAL to work in the stock email client. After reading another forum thread, I installed "Swift Contacts" from the market. This unlocked the GAL functionality in the stock client as well.

[Q] GMAIL Password ?

I've had a GMail account for years, and never once had a problem. I recently got an Android phone, and started getting GMail delivery failures for emails about "acai berry" slimming, which obviously is spam I didnt send. As a developer, I can understand that servers can be hacked, and nothing is perfect.
Earlier in the week I couldn't check my GMail email from my Android phone. I then logged in from my PC & was told there was suspicious activity. I got an access code sent by SMS & reset my password. I then checked the suspicious activity & found 2 accesses to my account from Poland. Definately not me. I still thought someone had hacked the server.
But last night alarm bells started ringing. I was running some API example code in Eclipse through the debugger on the emulator, and saw in the LogCat window some messages about permissions being requested by the app. One of them being requested was "ACCESS_GMAIL_PASSWORD" (may not have been the exact wording - I forgot to make a note of it) but it definately said GMAIL & PASSWORD in the permission name.
Now it was only in the Emulator, which didnt have any personal info in it. But when installing apps from the Marketplace on my real phone, I always check the permissions very carefully & wouldnt have installed anything that requested my GMail password. I cant believe Google would have provided API methods to access my GMail password ? Is this right ? Is it possible for an app to do so without me knowing it has permission to do so ? If its possible, I may have to reconsider using GMail.
Thanks for any feedback.

Well some apps do actually require the Google login credentials. Like appbrain for example. And I've been using appvrain forever with no problem.
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Yeah, but shouldn't we be aware of these permissions when we are installing. I know I haven't installed any apps that explicitly said they would access my GMail account.

Well I've checked for the following applications I've got on my phone and that use Gmail password:
- Android Market
- Chrome to Phone
- Gmail
- Google Reader
- GTasks
- Google Maps
and for all of them in the Authorisations list it is clearly written "Use an account authentification information" (I've translated from what I read in French so it may not be the exact wording in English).
So IMO if you use at least Android Market and Gmail application you have inevitably given access to your Gmail password.

On that list I have
- Android Market
- GMail
- Google Maps
All were pre-installed on the phone. Also, I trust the authors of these pieces of software. The problem is my GMail account has been accessed by a spammer sending "Acai berry" slimming emails. I dont think Google would misuse my GMail password for this purpose.
I am more concerned that I have been downloading apps from the Marketplace & one of them got my GMail password. I realise that apps have "Full internet access" when they are ad sponsored, I suspect a rogue app accessed my GMail password & then used its internet access to send the password to a spammer.
I have several apps from sources I dont fully trust, with "Full Internet Access". But I dont have any that asked for Account Authorisation when installed.
Is there any way I can recheck what apps can access my GMail password ?
Thanks.

There is an app on the market called task identifier that should help you out.
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Looks exactly what I'm after. Thanks.

gungh0 said:
Looks exactly what I'm after. Thanks.
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No problem. Good luck with it all.
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Recover Amazon Credentials

So I have a few throwaway Gmail accounts and can't remember which one I used to sign up for Amazon Marketplace on my Android device. From within the app it will only tell me my name, not the email address that was used.
I can back the marketplace up with TB and restore after a full wipe and the credentials are also restored so I was wondering if anyone is aware of any way I can use sqlite to recover the user name or email address.
I can see the locker DB contents but it doesn't seem apparent where the credentials are stored, at least not to me.
Any help out there?

That's a lot of effort. Go to the Amazon.com web-page. Go to 'Sign In'. Then press on 'Forgot my password'. Keep entering your email addresses until it accepts one of them - bingo

Good plan except the computer that had my throw away Gmail addresses cached died and I have no other record of them. If I can't find the email address I'm stuffed. If I can then I will be sweet because I used the same password on all my throw away email accounts.
See my dilemma?
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I'd suggest contacting Amazon and explaining your problem to them. With enough of your other personal details they should be able to supply to email address you used simply enough.

Anyone has a problem using built-in mail app?

Hi guys.
I am using built-in mail app but have a serious problem.
It's kinda a bit complicated.
I set up my company's mail account
But my company's mail account has only 200MB of capacity.
When it is almost full mail app stops working.(Not completely fulled, almost fulled)
When the mail box is completely fulled, one single new mail will automatically delete the oldest mail in the server.
Therefore, there is no problem actually.
But the problem is right here.
When the mail box is almost fulled it stops working.
There is no new mail anymore.
Then I manually delete old mails in the company's server using laptop.
But even when the capacity became less than 50% built-in mail app still isn't working.
Which means, once 'almost fulled' issue happens, the mail app doesn't work anymore.
Company's mail server is still receiving new mails but the mail app isn't.
I delete the account and set up from the beginning again, then it works well................
I guess it would be very difficult to find someone who has the similar problem like mines.
Because no company gives you only 200MB mail account in 21st century......... damned it.
But I really want to solve this stupid problem.
I can't delete the account and set it up from the beginning every month!
If someone has any problem with the mail app and has found out the solution,
please share.
Thank you so much!