I've been using fission on my Droid 2 Global (D2G) for about a month now, and I've added a few themes, including there version of LauncherPRO, my question is what are teh steps so I can revert to stock Fission, without the themes and or addons. I cant un-install LauncherPRO with my unistaller app, nor the fission themes. so if someone could give me a step by step list how to just go back to fresh copy of Fission. and please dont tell me I have to completely bring my phone back to stock/factory settings and then reinstall fission, cause I dont kno how to do that either lol Sorry for the newv question, but this is my first smartphone, and my first time hacking a phone(I've hacked everything else i own, like game consoles, PC, and I build custom PC,s and make mods for games, but phones are my new thing that I'm into) so if someone could help me figure this out, i would really appreciate it!
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I have a bunch of questions, but here is where I'm at.
I had 2.2 stock OTA. I then used bootstrapper to place dr154's Deodex OTA 2.2 onto my phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794007
Next, I again used bootstrapper to put NexTheme on my phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=749692
Question 1: Are both the deodex OTA and NexTheme now on my phone, or did NexTheme replace the deodex OTA? If I were to load another Theme on, would all 3 coexist or would the other(s) be replaced?
Question 2: If I were to factory reset my phone, what would it revert to? Stock? dr154's deodex? Etc.
Question 3: If vzw released a system update, do I have to do anything to my phone before I receive it?
Now more questions regarding SYSTEM APPS.
Problem 1: MotoTorch was preloaded as a system app, as a part of either Deodex or NexTheme, assuming these coexist. When a new version came out in the market, I could not update to it, because it was a system app. Superuser, same thing, a newer version came out, couldnt get it, "installation unsuccessful".
Problem 2: Additionally, lots of the system apps aren't even recognized as installed by the market. So sometimes you won't even know if an update is available. This was the case with MotoTorch.
So I used the common solution that everyone uses and that I found with a little searching, I loaded adb and mounted /system/app as rw, then removed the apks. Then reinstalled them from the market. Then remounted /system/app as ro.
My question regarding system apps is this:
Question 4: What is the advantage of having an app be a system app?
Question 5: The stock system apps such as Amazon Mp3, or City ID - can I safely remove these? Which ones CANNOT be removed? When I did ls /system/app, there were a huge number.
Lastly, I am new, so I'm sorry if I missed it or could have search it or whatever, but I'm wondering....
Question 6: What is tranquility exactly? I see a lot of themes say they're based of tranquility? If I wanted it, where could i find the newest version? If I install a theme based off tranquility, and then a new version of tranquility comes out, can I reinstall tranquility on my phone, then reinstall the theme and will then the theme be using the newest tranquility?
Question 7: What are the advantages of being blur-less?
Question 8: Is xda the best place to find new themes? Or is there another more centralized site?
Thank you very much for any answers!!
just about everyone of your questions are answered somewhere on the web, but ill give it a shot anyways.
1. Themes only replace certain apks, (this is usually stated in the themers OP) so at times you are most likely going to have a merge of themes, sometimes you will notice it sometimes you wont.
for example, you load a new rom which has apks 1-20. Now you load a theme that has apks 1-6. next you decide to load theme 2 that has apks 1-4. then you load theme 3 with apks 1-2. so even though your main theme is is theme 3, you still have parts of 1 and 2.
2. I would avoid a factory reset, just keep a backup and a copy of the rom your on. And if need be boot to recovery and restore one of those.
3. Yes you would need to revert back to bone stock, best done with an sbf. Google it, that subject is beaten to death.
your using the term system app wrong.
1-2. if the apps were loaded and pushed to system/app they usually wont update. the apks should be in data/app.
when you did the mount/uninstall/install this loaded the apk to the proper data/app location.
4. again wrong terminology. consider system app an app that is either neccesary for phone to run or an apk that MUST be in system/app
5. google "remove droid x bloatware"
6. would take way to long to fully explain that. newest can be found on rom manager or TBH.
7. personal preference, plus less &%$# running in the background.
8. no centralized site, you can find different stuff on different sites. mydroidworld, droid-life, droidforums, droidxforums, etc.
thanks for your answers, but when i ls /system/app i see a lot of useless junk that I am pretty sure aren't required for the system...
the theme gave me mototorch to /system not /data
Here's the BIG question. Did you make your own nandroid back-up before you started this whole process? In other words- did you go into bootstrap recovery and create a back up of your phone first? and then do all this other stuff? Bc that is the easiest and number one way to return your phone to its factory settings. In fact- at this point it may be the only way. With 2.1 we had an SBF file which was essentially the original "rom image" (i come from windows mobile so forgive me). So if you were tinkering around or flashing roms and something happened - you could restore using the SBF to the factory state.
On 2.2 there is no complete SBF. Team Black Hat released a partial SBF they are calling a "system SBF" that can help people that have fubared their phone installing themes and what not. But i don't think it returns the phone to factory settings- I could be wrong since I am a complete newb to android.
So to make a long story even longer- that is why I asked if your remembered to make your own nandroid back up of your phone b4 you did all this stuff- so you have a way to return your phone to its original factory state. If you did not- then don't let it bother you. I have read many posts from seasoned android users that simply got excited and forgot to do it. Eventually - the SBF has to be leaked and we all can sleep a little easier.
I didn't make a nandroid backup. Thanks for letting me know about this, now I know not to try to revert until a true sbf comes out, you might have just saved me from bricking. I guess if an OTA comes out, and we still don't have an SBF, I'll just have to wait for a customized version of that OTA to be released.
Turns out the full SBF was released yesterday by the way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807903
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I didn't make a nandroid backup. Thanks for letting me know about this, now I know not to try to revert until a true sbf comes out, you might have just saved me from bricking. I guess if an OTA comes out, and we still don't have an SBF, I'll just have to wait for a customized version of that OTA to be released.
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Turns out the full SBF was released yesterday by the way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807903
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Yes- this is confirmed lagitamate. So you are good to go. You can now restore to factory by downloading this sbf and using RSDlite (RSDLight? - can't remember).
So- didn't have to wait to long
I recently got into flashing custom ROMS onto my Droid X. I have had it since launch and was rooted from the day the first root was released, rooted after the 2.2 OTA and recently, have gotten kinda bored of the same old launcher pro and got into looking at custom ROMs. Last night I successfully went through the process of flashing ZapX semi-blurless rom. I loved the speed and not having all the moto junk but have noticed that you can't necessarily use themes on blurless ROMs. I was wondering if someone could point me in the direction of a good ROM or themed rom that I could manually remove bloatware or at the least a themed ZapX rom? Thanks for the help in advance!
rubix focused 0.5, period
Haven't tried zapX yet. I've run Rubix for a few days and it's been great. Just loaded Apex this morning, but haven't had time to 'run it through its' paces'.
As for themeing, if you are comfortable with editing the zip file for the theme, just remove the blur related APK's that have been removed from your system
May take a little investigative work to make sure you remove the right ones, but it's doable.
FYI, Fabolous (Apex) also released a version of his NexTheme for the Apex ROM and it looks pretty nice.
Thanks for the help! Im probably gonna use the RubiX ROM and mess around with the .zip
I have fabolous nextheme with teenfaces + bigdx (swype + multitouch) + removed blur related themed apks + win7font (probably from env theme) + vanilla lock screen mod
And I am loving it
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I have fabolous nextheme with teenfaces + bigdx (swype + multitouch) + removed blur related themed apks + win7font (probably from env theme) + vanilla lock screen mod
And I am loving it
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One of these days you'll work up enough nerve to branch out and truly customize your device.
LMAO
so if i have a rom installed (the deodexed 2.2 OTA that someone released), and then I install another rom on top of it, is it completely replaced?
whereas if i install 1 theme on top of another, they coexist?
also, themes can only go on top of roms that are deodexed, correct?
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so if i have a rom installed (the deodexed 2.2 OTA that someone released), and then I install another rom on top of it, is it completely replaced?
whereas if i install 1 theme on top of another, they coexist?
also, themes can only go on top of roms that are deodexed, correct?
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The way I understand is that the theme only replaces portions of the ROM that realate to the visuals. It leaves the meat of the ROM applying to it operating intact. Correct me if im wrong.
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so if i have a rom installed (the deodexed 2.2 OTA that someone released), and then I install another rom on top of it, is it completely replaced?
whereas if i install 1 theme on top of another, they coexist?
also, themes can only go on top of roms that are deodexed, correct?
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The way I understand is that the theme only replaces portions of the ROM that realate to the visuals. It leaves the meat of the ROM applying to it operating intact. Correct me if im wrong.
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Yes & no. Themes generally only replace certain files, but many times those files are certain application APK's. And the theme may ADD apk's that you didn't have (ie, you have a blur-less ROM, and put on a theme that includes blur stuff).
If two themes don't change/replace the same file, then yes portions may co-exist.
Not all ROM installations are completely wiping /system. Some of them only replace the portions of /system that have been modified. Thus, you could theoretically get some intermixing of two ROMS as well.
zaphod
if im getting ready to go from an OTA 2.2 rooted w/ build.prop mods and bloatware frozen; what would you suggest doing to retain a list or backup of my current aps to know what i want when i get back up and running after flashing to rubix blurry? appbrain sync be sufficient?
also, syncing contacts/etc possible via backup assistant; or is that removed as well (or down-loadable in the market)?
im looking to get back to where i am now widget, app, contacts, etc wise after getting back up with the least problems due to no syncing or having to write everything down.
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zaphod
if im getting ready to go from an OTA 2.2 rooted w/ build.prop mods and bloatware frozen; what would you suggest doing to retain a list or backup of my current aps to know what i want when i get back up and running after flashing to rubix blurry? appbrain sync be sufficient?
also, syncing contacts/etc possible via backup assistant; or is that removed as well (or down-loadable in the market)?
im looking to get back to where i am now widget, app, contacts, etc wise after getting back up with the least problems due to no syncing or having to write everything down.
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Appbrain will certainly work for creating/maintaining a list of your current apps.
The Froyo Market app, however, also does this if you have your google account set to backup. When I re-flash (way more than I would like to admit ), first time I sign into my google account, and go into market, it starts downloading (a very long list!) of apps that I had.
Note that this will just get your apps/widgets installed. Any data/settings/screen layouts will need to be re-created. I've not found a good way to restore this yet. While there are some programs (titanium) that will do this, it's been known to create problems.
As for contacts, I have both an exchange and g-mail accounts. My contacts are automatically synced there. If you put all of your contacts on your google account, they should sync as soon as you sign in.
I don't know much about 'offline' methods of contact syncing.
For starters I would go with 928 Black Glass
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I've not found a good way to restore this yet. While there are some programs (titanium) that will do this, it's been known to create problems.
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As long as you don't use Titanium to restore anything for /system it works fine. that is where the problems all come from as people restore /system things from an old build that does not work on there new build.
IMO the best way to restore apps if you want all your data settings back is to use My Backup Pro.
I just setup my Droid Incredible with the MIUI ROM and adjusted all of the settings the way I like it (wifi, ringtones, layout, etc.). Is there a way to somehow spin that into a flashable rom?
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I want to do the same thing! I have FireFly3.0 installed and want to try out a 2.3.3 rom, but don't want to have to endure all the pain of having to set everything back up if I find it unstable. A "known good" rom, if you will.
Can't you just use rom manager to create a backup, and pull it off the phone and keep it safe? I seem to recall using restores when I tried roms that I didn't like the feel of.
Yeah, it's called a nandroid backup. Boot into recovery, do your backup, then wipe and flash the other rom. If you decide you want to go back to your old setup, restore from the nandroid backup and everything will be just as it was. Like nothing ever happened...
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
For work I made a pre-configured phone with our own software
wich is used for consumer research.
I want to make a rom from this phone so I can distribute this on
the hundrets of phone's we are having.
(There's no *.apk or setup package from our own written software,
we use 2 *.bat files to reset the phone and install our software)
What's the most easyest / effecient wat to do this?
Phone: Samsung Galaxy Ace
Running: Gingerbread 2.3.6
Thank you in advance
Ok, so I just downloaded the Big DX Crystal theme, and was looking at the installation instructions for it, and I have some questions.
The instructions say simply to place the zip file on the SD card, boot into DX bootstrap, and apply zip.
Before I try this, I just want to be sure that the steps of making a backup of the current ROM, wiping user data and cache, installing zip, and rebooting aren't the ACTUAL correct steps. I've bricked a phone before from not following those exact steps, and I don't want to do it again. Or, is this process correct, with Big DX Crystal being more a theme than a ROM?
Also, MUST Liberty first be installed for this to work, or can I install it on top of Big DX Serenity or the stock ROM? I have both Liberty and Big DX Crystal saved on a flash drive and ready to install, but not until I'm absolutely sure of the correct way to install them.
Ok, so I successfully installed Liberty 1.5 and installed the Big DX Crystal theme on top of it (although it turns out I didn't need to download Big DX Crystal beforehand; it was included as a theme in the Liberty Toolbox). I'm having a couple of issues though. First, no more Motoblur! (Yes, I know most of you on here don't like it, but I do, especially its ability to sync with Facebook contacts). Secondly, no Backup Assistant! Thirdly, it seems not to be letting me set up my Yahoo email accounts. What gives?
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how to install big dx crystal from liberty tool box
every time i try to install this theme it fails. i installed gingerbread blue with no problems but now cant get big dx, what do i need to do to get this theme, it looks awesome and i want it. any help would be appreciated
'Ello all.. Entirely too newb for this! Anyway, I've rooted my infuse 4G ... Seems that - that was easiest part. Now I am just really confused as to where to go from here. I've got Rom Manager premium & Titaniam Back Up free. I've batched using TBU. Not sure if I need other things for some of the ROMs I've checked out? And How to get a customized theme (widgets, Icons, etc)? I'm mostly confused on the terms used whilst searching for ROMS & Themes. And PM would be greatly appreciated! Lol.
Thanks for your time
Head towards development forum for custom roms and theme section for themes.
But first decide what you want.
I assume you are on stock froyo 2.2,so,you can install custom froyo rom or custom gingerbread rom.
also you can install kernals for OC and UV.
First decide what you want,search through forum,read then jump.
Like rohit suggested, I would browse the development forum and check some things out.
When using Titanium Backup to restore applications. Make sure you only use it to reinstall apps and their data. Never restore system data. If you are going to use it to "batch" reinstall your apps once you've installed a new rom, make sure to only install the "missing" apps, not all apps. Replacing the new apps with the outdated ones that you may have backed up is a bad idea due to incompatibility; however, you can certainly retain the old apps that you have now and install them later.
ROM Manager will mainly be used to install CWM. The only ROM that is currently supported through it is Infused. It is still suggested that you flash the files manually through recovery. Also, make sure you follow all of the steps in the directions for the ROM so that everything goes through without a hitch.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask here or shoot me a pm. I'll try to get back to you quickly.
Good luck. I think you will enjoy installing some custom stuff once you get the hang of it. Don't worry yourself too much. It's harder to mess things up than you think. Just pay attention to installation instructions and go slow at first.